Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Kenneth Porter]

--On Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:40 PM -0700 Timothy Selivanow 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



There is a way.  Make a custom RPM, or even an advanced script (ala
gentoo ebuild system).  That isn't the problem, it's the name space.
There is no guarantee that what ever you choose it going to be unique
and therefore not over-written by someone else.  How do you think Red
Hat does the dual arch libs in x86_64?  That was dictated though, and
everyone follows it.


What ever happened to putting all non-distro stuff in 
/opt/vendor/application? And referring to any binaries in there by abolute 
path, instead of depending on dumping all binaries in /usr/bin. At least 
for stuff not invoked by hand from a console, that should be workable. 
System services and stuff invoked from icons could and probably should use 
absolute paths.


(I'm not proposing this. I'm asking why it's not the norm.)

We would then have /opt/RPMforge and /opt/EPEL and all their respective 
packages would drop into separate trees.



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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Feizhou]

Repo priorities and includes


But wouldn't it be easier if the packages had different names so you 
could just install the one(s) you want from the command line?




Try your own custom postfix with a different name and see what breaks.
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Re: [CentOS] virtual hdd problems when CentOS is guest OS

[Jim Wildman]

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:


Interestingly, I can create virtual Debian boxes ok, but I can't
create virtual CentOS boxes. What might I be missing?  As soon as I
boot to the iso, it says something about not being able to find the
drive.

(I didn't have this problem with CentOS when Windows was my host OS,
only when CentOS is the host OS)


I've seen this issue myself on a seemingly random basis.  Flip the drive
to an ide rather than a scsi one and see if it works.


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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd.conf on centos 5

[Indunil Jayasooriya]

>
> On this URL: http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories it says:
>
> > Note: You should seriously consider using the Priorities (or
> > ProtectBase) yum plugin if you are going to use a 3rd Party
> > Repository. (The Priorities and ProtectBase plugins both prevent 3rd
> > party repos replacing base packages, but Priorities is much more
> > flexible and therefore the recommended plugin.)
>
> Consider removing ProtectBase and installing Priorities


Hey, Why should I remove ProtectBase ? Whithout removing ProtectBase, Is it
NOT proper to install Priorities?





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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Les Mikesell]

Petr "Qaxi" Klíma wrote:


Diversity adds a lot of value. If EPEL will be only repo nobody on 
RHEL workstation can see/listen MP3, WMA, DVD playing, because of 
interesting US software patent and millenium act law.


That's not what I meant.  Obviously we need additional packages in 
other repositories and that will be true as long as there is any 
policy that might exclude any contribution to a centrally managed 
repository.  The question is, why do we need/want different versions 
of the same-named packages, or packages that provide different 
versions of the same files that can overwrite each other based on 
conditions we can't control? There probably is a good reason to want 
this - I just can't think of it right now.



That's easy:

(this is example, has no reflection to current state ...)

EPEL  provides xmms-1.2.10-1.i586.rpm- but without MP3, WMA, AAC ...
DAG   provides xmms-1.2.9-1.rf.i586.rpm  - with all those beasts
ATRPM provides xmms-1.2.10-1.at.i586.rpm - with all those beasts

Which you installs? Who knows, probably EPEL ...

Solution?

Repo priorities and includes


But wouldn't it be easier if the packages had different names so you 
could just install the one(s) you want from the command line?


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Petr \"Qaxi\" Klíma]

(this is example, has no reflection to current state ...)

EPEL  provides xmms-1.2.10-1.i586.rpm- but without MP3, WMA, AAC ...
DAG   provides xmms-1.2.9-1.rf.i586.rpm  - with all those beasts
ATRPM provides xmms-1.2.10-1.at.i586.rpm - with all those beasts

Which you installs? Who knows, probably EPEL ...

Solution?

Repo priorities and includes


But wouldn't it be easier if the packages had different names so you 
could just install the one(s) you want from the command line?


Please suggest an easy to handle inter repo clean system how to rename 
XMMS packages on top of this page .


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Petr \"Qaxi\" Klíma]

Kenneth Porter napsal(a):
--On Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:40 PM -0700 Timothy Selivanow 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



There is a way.  Make a custom RPM, or even an advanced script (ala
gentoo ebuild system).  That isn't the problem, it's the name space.
There is no guarantee that what ever you choose it going to be unique
and therefore not over-written by someone else.  How do you think Red
Hat does the dual arch libs in x86_64?  That was dictated though, and
everyone follows it.


What ever happened to putting all non-distro stuff in 
/opt/vendor/application? And referring to any binaries in there by 
abolute path, instead of depending on dumping all binaries in 
/usr/bin. At least for stuff not invoked by hand from a console, that 
should be workable. System services and stuff invoked from icons could 
and probably should use absolute paths.


(I'm not proposing this. I'm asking why it's not the norm.)

We would then have /opt/RPMforge and /opt/EPEL and all their 
respective packages would drop into separate trees.



it is bad that it is not norm ... ;-)

Form my point of view (FMPOV) is placing everithing to /usr/bin bad too
over there FMPOV everithing what is not core system should by in /usr/local/bin 
or bigger packages in /opt

Question is what is part of core system?
 Xorg server YES 
 Gnome   NO  




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[CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Axel Thimm]

On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:29:25AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> You'll have to remind me why anyone wants different same-named packages 
> with differences the end user doesn't understand and can't control to 
> exist at all before I can comment on a solution about managing them.

Let's assume no one wants that (I think I don't). Shouldn't you be
chasing the repo that just created the duplicates instead of the ones
that supported RHEL/CentOS over years now?

And before you rightfully extend the argument - as far as duplicates
between RPMForge/Dag, Dries, Karan Extras, CentOS Extras SL contrib
and ATrpms are concerned: We're working *together* on eliminating
them. We're too old for clone wars, the only kid on the block that
wants to play by its own rules is on another list, go patronize it ;)
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[CentOS] usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71 - CENTOS 5

[Indunil Jayasooriya]

Hi all,

I installed CentOS 5 on DELL machine. Then, When the system comes up, I
always get below erros.

Could you pls help me to solve this out before I setup this box for
productiuon use ?

these are errors.


usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71
ata2: port failed to respond (30 secs)
ata2: SRST failed (status 0xFF)
ata2: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100)
ata2: SRST failed (status 0xFF)
ata2: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100)
ata2: SRST failed (status 0xFF)
ata2: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100)
ata2: reset failed, giving up


I installed centos 4.4 on the same machine. Then I did not get these errors.
Then, I updated it to CentOS 4.5. Then also, I did not get those errors?

why does it happen to CentOS 5 ?









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Re: [CentOS] xorg version

[ne . . .]

On 8/2/07, beast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A quick question. how do i know the version of xorg server? rpm -qa | grep
> xorg-x11-server gives 1.1.x which is not correct.
If X is not running look thru the last X log file in /var/log. The
version should be near the beginning of the file. Else xdpyinfo and
friends should be able to tell you.

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[CentOS] Allocating 64 kbits/s out of 256 kbits/s for one LAN behing firewall

[Indunil Jayasooriya]

Hi,

We have a 256 kbits/s (kilobits per second) link to the internet. it is a
router running Linux that belongs to our ISP.  They have given us 8 internet
ips. (i.e- subnet is 255.255.255.248). one has been given to this router. I
have given another internet ip to the firewall running CentOS 4.5. iptables
is running on it. And also, I have installed iproute2 pkg as well.

pls see below for installed pkgs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qa |grep iptables
iptables-1.2.11-3.1.RHEL4
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qa |grep iproute
iproute-2.6.9-3.EL4.3.centos4

This firewall has 3 ethernet cards at the moment. one is connected to
router. one is connected to our DMZ zone. one is connected to LAN1.

These are ips of the firewall.

eth0 (internet) - 1.2.3.4/255.255.255.248 (pls assume it. For security
reason, I will not give you the actual ip)
eth1 (DMZ Zone) - 192.168.100.254/255.255.255.0
eth2 (LAN1) - 192.168.101.254/255.255.255.0

Now, everyone in LAN1 has access to internet. (due to SNAT rule)

Now, I want to install another ethernet card to this firewall. then, it
would be eth3.

eth3 will be as follows.

eth3 (LAN2) - 192.168.102.254/255.255.255.0

Now, I want put about 5 people (5 PCs) behind this LAN2 and give internet
access to them. But, I do not want them to use my whole bandwidth (i.e - 256
kbit/s), But Instead, I want peple behind this LAN2 to allocate  64
kbits/s(kilo bits per second) for their
internert access.

Is it possible to acheive this task on firewall running iptables and
iproute2 (CentOS 4.5) ?

If so, How can I do such thing?

If I do such thing, what will happen to the people behind LAN1 ? Will they
get whole 256 kbits/s as before or will they get 256 kbit/s - 64  kbit/s for
their internet access?


Hope to hear form you.










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[CentOS] kmod-xfs disappear!

[Farkas Levente]

hi,
it seems since yesterday the kmod-xfs rpms for the default (non
centosplus kernel) are removed from centos/5/centosplus repositories.
what happens? why did you do so? is there any announcement about it?
thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] kmod-xfs disappear!

[Akemi Yagi]

On 8/2/07, Farkas Levente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi,
> it seems since yesterday the kmod-xfs rpms for the default (non
> centosplus kernel) are removed from centos/5/centosplus repositories.
> what happens? why did you do so? is there any announcement about it?
> thanks.

They (non centosplus ones) are now in the extras repo.

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Re: [CentOS] Allocating 64 kbits/s out of 256 kbits/s for one LAN behing firewall

[Feizhou]

Is it possible to acheive this task on firewall running iptables and 
iproute2 (CentOS 4.5) ?


If so, How can I do such thing?

If I do such thing, what will happen to the people behind LAN1 ? Will 
they get whole 256 kbits/s as before or will they get 256 kbit/s - 64  
kbit/s for their internet access?


Yes. use firewall marks and tc.

http://lartc.org/
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Re: [CentOS] kmod-xfs disappear!

[Farkas Levente]

Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On 8/2/07, Farkas Levente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> hi,
>> it seems since yesterday the kmod-xfs rpms for the default (non
>> centosplus kernel) are removed from centos/5/centosplus repositories.
>> what happens? why did you do so? is there any announcement about it?
>> thanks.
> 
> They (non centosplus ones) are now in the extras repo.

i can't find there either:-(
anyway is there any docs about centosplus and extras form centos-5 (i
can't find any info about it only about centos-4.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Stephen Harris]

On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:34:17PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Stephen Harris wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 04:02:08PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> >>Question: how many levels of symlinks-pointing-to-symlinks does it take 
> >>to get to the right place?  And having supplied this number of symlinks, 
> >>how can a user choose to execute one version of java while someone else 
> >>prefers the other?  Or how do you run one application under one version 
> >>and another with a different one?
> >
> >The question you have asked is a _complicated_ one.  Many businesses
> >have come up with home grown solutions to this problem (in my place it's
> >called DAM; Dynamic Application Management; default values are determined
> >by individual/group/server/NIS).  It works on Solaris, HPUX, AIX and Linux.
> >
> >However, it's _definitely_ beyond the scope of an OS package management
> >system such as yum and rpm.
> 
> I could have sworn that when I had yum working right with the jpackage 
> repos I was able to:
> yum install tomcat4
> yum install tomcat5
> yum install tomcat55

That's barely touching the surface of this complicated mess.  What if
I want tomcat4.0.1 and tomcat4.0.2?   perl5.8.0 and perl5.8.1 and
perl5.8.2 ?  If these all go into their own directory trees then the
user will _never_ know where to find perl ("/usr/bin/perl" would be a
conflict that needs managing).

Now what happens if Fred creates a tin1.8.2 and John creates a tin1.8.2
but with different compile options?  If we can't even get all the
repostories to use a simple repotag, we'd never get them to compile with
non-standard paths!

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Re: [CentOS] usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71 - CENTOS 5

[Bob Chiodini]

Indunil Jayasooriya wrote:

Hi all,

I installed CentOS 5 on DELL machine. Then, When the system comes up, 
I always get below erros.


Could you pls help me to solve this out before I setup this box for 
productiuon use ?


these are errors.


usb 1-2: device not accepting address 2, error -71
ata2: port failed to respond (30 secs)
ata2: SRST failed (status 0xFF)
ata2: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100)
ata2: SRST failed (status 0xFF)
ata2: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100)
ata2: SRST failed (status 0xFF)
ata2: SRST failed (err_mask=0x100)
ata2: reset failed, giving up


I installed centos 4.4 on the same machine. Then I did not get these 
errors. Then, I updated it to CentOS 4.5. Then also, I did not get 
those errors?


why does it happen to CentOS 5 ?









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Indunil,

I get the same USB error on a Dell gx270 and FC6.  I also got the ATA 
errors during a couple of the kernel releases.  It was due to incorrect 
handling of an unused ATA controller and was subsequently fixed.  Both 
errors seem innocuous other than having to wait for the ATA timeout. 


For RHEL 5.0:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237016

documents the ATA issue and (for FC6):

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213411

documents the USB issue.

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Re: [CentOS] Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Jim Perrin]

Okay folks, I think we've just about beaten this horse long enough.
Lets all agree that the whole mess needs some clarity, and that any
griping on this list is not likely to resolve the issue.

Can we please let this thread die now and get back to some centos
related help/business?

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Dag Wieers]

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Les Mikesell wrote:

> Dag Wieers wrote:
> 
> > > > > I think you are making too much out of name differences for things
> > > > > that
> > > > > can clobber each other and not enough about ways to let the different
> > > > > things co-exist - on the same machines if you want them, or to let
> > > > > users
> > > > > choose which they want.  If two same-named packages can conflict,
> > > > > someone
> > > > > did something wrong and the issue shouldn't be about who did it but
> > > > > how to
> > > > > avoid it.
> > > > I disagree. If I was going to roll my own packages in my own repository
> > > > to
> > > > overrule the OS repositories, tagging my packages would be essential.
> > > But the tags are in an inconvenient position to control anything.  How do
> > > you
> > > ensure that you'll get your copies if any other repo adds a newer release?
> > > Normally you'd want updates to float to the latest.
> > 
> > Correct, you would think Fedora took care of this, right ? But there is no
> > interest for Fedora to take care of that because they want to be the only
> > repository. It is not something they have an incentive for to fix.
> > 
> > That is exactly the problem. The repotag would be a workaround (and a
> > convenient one for users) but the real changes need to be in yum or
> > somewhere else. And Fedora does not care, so RHEL will not have it.
> > 
> > I have warned for this on the Feodra mailinglist years ago. There just is no
> > interest to have the diversity of more than one repository.
> 
> From an end-user viewpoint, I can't see why anyone would want to maintain a
> potentially-conflicting package of something that can be freely distributed
> and keep it in an isolated repository, especially without any mechanism to
> control which will be installed.

Exactly, yum has a shortsighted implementation that does not allow 
control. Smart is much better at this and Smart-knowledge should be a 
requisite to enter this discussion.

A lot of people are brainwashed by the limits of a tool like yum. Smart is 
much better at allowing people to decide what they want.


> Can you explain the reason anyone would want
> to have diversity instead of a single maintainer per package and the same
> packages in all repositories whose policies find them acceptable?

Because one user *wants* to have one version on their production server 
and only wants to update to a newer release when it is exactly the same 
version and only fixes bugs. (stability)

Another user wants to have the latest version on their test server to be 
able to test this latest release for acceptance. (current)

Both needs are perfectly understandable on an Enterprise Linux operating 
system, both could live in a single repository or on multiple repositories 
and people may want to define exactly what policy they want to follow, on 
a per repository bases or on a per package basis.

Smart does allow this !

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[CentOS] Pam module for freeradius

[Devraj Mukherjee]

Hi everyone,

Does the default installation of pam support authenticating against
radius. Or do I need the module available from the freeradius site.

If yes, then is the freeradius pam module available via rpm?

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Johnny Hughes]

Les Mikesell wrote:
> Petr "Qaxi" Klíma wrote:
>>
 Diversity adds a lot of value. If EPEL will be only repo nobody on
 RHEL workstation can see/listen MP3, WMA, DVD playing, because of
 interesting US software patent and millenium act law.
>>>
>>> That's not what I meant.  Obviously we need additional packages in
>>> other repositories and that will be true as long as there is any
>>> policy that might exclude any contribution to a centrally managed
>>> repository.  The question is, why do we need/want different versions
>>> of the same-named packages, or packages that provide different
>>> versions of the same files that can overwrite each other based on
>>> conditions we can't control? There probably is a good reason to want
>>> this - I just can't think of it right now.
>>>
>> That's easy:
>>
>> (this is example, has no reflection to current state ...)
>>
>> EPEL  provides xmms-1.2.10-1.i586.rpm- but without MP3, WMA, AAC ...
>> DAG   provides xmms-1.2.9-1.rf.i586.rpm  - with all those beasts
>> ATRPM provides xmms-1.2.10-1.at.i586.rpm - with all those beasts
>>
>> Which you installs? Who knows, probably EPEL ...
>>
>> Solution?
>>
>> Repo priorities and includes
> 
> But wouldn't it be easier if the packages had different names so you
> could just install the one(s) you want from the command line?
> 
NO ... because many other packages might depend on xmms (to use your
example).  xmms-devel might be needed to build against.  All the other
packages that need it (some in ATRPMS, some in RPMForge, some in Base,
soem in KBS, some in EPEL) all think it provides xmms-devel or xmms.
One could provide:xmms with the package ... however then it would ACT
like it was named xmms too (which would make them the same).

If we change the %{name} then all of those are broken ... of we change
the %{release} (ie ... add a repo tag) then all the other programs are
not broken.

Also a reason for providing packages named the same thing is to provide
"repo closure".  That concept is to provide all packages (besides those
in the main OS) that all packages in your repo need to install.
Sticking with our example, xmms might require perl-Magic to install and
perl-Magic is missing from BASE.  You need perl-Magic to get xmms to
install ... and it is in other repos (Maybe EPEL) but you don't want to
force your users to also use EPEL, so you need to have perl-Magic also
in your repo.

===

It is also well beyond the scope of any distribution or repo to try and
create "one-off" packages.  What I consider "one-off" are things in
different paths (like /opt) that allow 2 packages to be installed at the
same time.

This kind of situation rapid develops into the stuff that very
experienced admins need to create for their specific installation.  I
would be for the same problems as above ... other packages require /
expect xmms-1.2.3.so.1.1.2 and they expect it in /usr/lib (or
/usr/lib64) ... my renamed and relocated package can't be there. (Since
you also have xmms from EPEL installed).  You would need to rebuild any
other packages to look at my new name/location if you wanted it to use
my "one-off" package instead of the default location).  That is fine if
you need it for a specific reason ... it is not fine for normal installs.



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[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 30, Issue 2

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tex-doc-1.0.7-67.10.s390.rpm
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updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-fonts-1.0.7-67.10.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-latex-1.0.7-67.10.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-xdvi-1.0.7-67.10.s390.rpm

s390x:
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-1.0.7-67.10.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-afm-1.0.7-67.10.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-doc-1.0.7-67.10.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-dvips-1.0.7-67.10.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-fonts-1.0.7-67.10.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-latex-1.0.7-67.10.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-xdvi-1.0.7-67.10.s390x.rpm



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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 01:38:46 +0100
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Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2007:0731 Important CentOS 5 i386
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0731 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0731.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

i386:
e295fe819d3ce36f4f8874e2cca29aa9  tetex-3.0-33.1.el5.i386.rpm
dd0e1abf34afbbd9040fc9a01d661bfb  tetex-afm-3.0-33.1.el5.i386.rpm
814860bd059ee81f631ba5c0096bf872  tetex-doc-3.0-33.1.el5.i386.rpm
ecd308a1b54f49f9be543c9a38274645  tetex-dvips-3.0-33.1.el5.i386.rpm
a44ba0d1af1c449336f42c7f43a6194a  tetex-fonts-3.0-33.1.el5.i386.rpm
2704cfb7eb89265a13a5af6261319452  tetex-latex-3.0-33.1.el5.i386.rpm
c322268e1fce63b5e58df6f14f7259f9  tetex-xdvi-3.0-33.1.el5.i386.rpm

Source:
7d2bb1dfc578928482bf0f6064502710  tetex-3.0-33.1.el5.src.rpm


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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 01:38:46 +0100
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0731 Important

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0731.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently 
syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) 

x86_64:
4be3cc39f642419f85f262f0af7c0f8c  tetex-3.0-33.1.el5.x86_64.rpm
6a54975dc02a164237a56f7de088e11e  tetex-afm-3.0-33.1.el5.x86_64.rpm
1ee2dab90913fc1d6bf1ac7f774a8a87  tetex-doc-3.0-33.1.el5.x86_64.rpm
0130f657f7474c12698fd9436477  tetex-dvips-3.0-33.1.el5.x86_64.rpm
f96fc5b397ff33b669a1b63cd1fd68b4  tetex-fonts-3.0-33.1.el5.x86_64.rpm
c1cb7a3b59a77431868c55ad19c90691  tetex-latex-3.0-33.1.el5.x86_64.rpm
b5fca7139594d537cd4fb9a534b22711  tetex-xdvi-3.0-33.1.el5.x86_64.rpm

Source:
7d2bb1dfc578928482bf0f6064502710  tetex-3.0-33.1.el5.src.rpm


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Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 04:54:53 +0300
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CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2007:0731

https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2007-0731.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors:

s390:
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-afm-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-doc-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-dvips-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-fonts-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-latex-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390.rpm
updates/s390/RPMS/tetex-xdvi-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390.rpm

s390x:
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-afm-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-doc-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-dvips-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-fonts-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-latex-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390x.rpm
updates/s390x/RPMS/tetex-xdvi-2.0.2-22.0.1.EL4.8.s390x.rpm


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Re: [CentOS] kmod-xfs disappear!

[Akemi Yagi]

On 8/2/07, Farkas Levente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Akemi Yagi wrote:
> > On 8/2/07, Farkas Levente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> hi,
> >> it seems since yesterday the kmod-xfs rpms for the default (non
> >> centosplus kernel) are removed from centos/5/centosplus repositories.
> >> what happens? why did you do so? is there any announcement about it?
> >> thanks.
> >
> > They (non centosplus ones) are now in the extras repo.
>
> i can't find there either:-(
> anyway is there any docs about centosplus and extras form centos-5 (i
> can't find any info about it only about centos-4.
>
> --
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You cannot find it using yum?  Try 'yum list kmod-xfs'. I still find
it in centosplus because it has not been removed from there.

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Re: [CentOS] yum-updatesd.conf on centos 5

[Johnny Hughes]

Indunil Jayasooriya wrote:
> 
> 
> On this URL: http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories
>  it says:
> 
> > Note: You should seriously consider using the Priorities (or
> > ProtectBase) yum plugin if you are going to use a 3rd Party
> > Repository. (The Priorities and ProtectBase plugins both prevent 3rd
> > party repos replacing base packages, but Priorities is much more
> > flexible and therefore the recommended plugin.)
> 
> Consider removing ProtectBase and installing Priorities
> 
> 
> Hey, Why should I remove ProtectBase ? Whithout removing ProtectBase, Is
> it NOT proper to install Priorities?

priorities and protectbase do the same thing.  One has 2 settings (0 and
1) the other has 99 settings (1-99).

The way they do things (besides that) is pretty much identical.

Therefore, you should use one or the other.



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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Les Mikesell]

Axel Thimm wrote:

On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:29:25AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
You'll have to remind me why anyone wants different same-named packages 
with differences the end user doesn't understand and can't control to 
exist at all before I can comment on a solution about managing them.


Let's assume no one wants that (I think I don't). Shouldn't you be
chasing the repo that just created the duplicates instead of the ones
that supported RHEL/CentOS over years now?

And before you rightfully extend the argument - as far as duplicates
between RPMForge/Dag, Dries, Karan Extras, CentOS Extras SL contrib
and ATrpms are concerned: We're working *together* on eliminating
them.


And yet, conflicts have always kept popping up, and I can't see any 
provision you make to enable additional repositories to exist without 
coordinating with your rules.  The issue is that there is only one 
namespace which is the part that doesn't make sense and can't work 
without a single authority or a hierarchial structure, and I can't come 
up with a reason that you should be that authority.



We're too old for clone wars, the only kid on the block that
wants to play by its own rules is on another list, go patronize it ;)


The LFHS is the problem here, although putting applications where you 
want them in the filesystem would make Linux as hard to use as the Mac.

Oh wait...

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Re: [CentOS] kmod-xfs disappear!

[Farkas Levente]

Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On 8/2/07, Farkas Levente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Akemi Yagi wrote:
>>> On 8/2/07, Farkas Levente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 hi,
 it seems since yesterday the kmod-xfs rpms for the default (non
 centosplus kernel) are removed from centos/5/centosplus repositories.
 what happens? why did you do so? is there any announcement about it?
 thanks.
>>> They (non centosplus ones) are now in the extras repo.
>> i can't find there either:-(
>> anyway is there any docs about centosplus and extras form centos-5 (i
>> can't find any info about it only about centos-4.
>>
>> --
>>   Levente   "Si vis pacem para bellum!"
> 
> You cannot find it using yum?  Try 'yum list kmod-xfs'. I still find
> it in centosplus because it has not been removed from there.

ok i rerun our mirror script and find it:-)

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Les Mikesell]

Johnny Hughes wrote:


Solution?

Repo priorities and includes

But wouldn't it be easier if the packages had different names so you
could just install the one(s) you want from the command line?


NO ... because many other packages might depend on xmms (to use your
example).  xmms-devel might be needed to build against.  All the other
packages that need it (some in ATRPMS, some in RPMForge, some in Base,
soem in KBS, some in EPEL) all think it provides xmms-devel or xmms.
One could provide:xmms with the package ... however then it would ACT
like it was named xmms too (which would make them the same).

If we change the %{name} then all of those are broken ... of we change
the %{release} (ie ... add a repo tag) then all the other programs are
not broken.


I thought once upon a time some repo had a package named xmms-mp3 which 
was different from the core version for obvious reasons.  I can't recall 
a problem and I didn't have to know which repo I had to manage to get or 
exclude it.




It is also well beyond the scope of any distribution or repo to try and
create "one-off" packages.  What I consider "one-off" are things in
different paths (like /opt) that allow 2 packages to be installed at the
same time.

This kind of situation rapid develops into the stuff that very
experienced admins need to create for their specific installation.


You mean like every Mac user that installs an add-on package by clicking 
to open it's disk-image distribution and dragging it to a local location?


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Feizhou]

I thought once upon a time some repo had a package named xmms-mp3 which 
was different from the core version for obvious reasons.  I can't recall 
a problem and I didn't have to know which repo I had to manage to get or 
exclude it.


How are we supposed to know whether or not that is a sub-package like 
cyrus-sasl-md5 or cyrus-sasl-plain?





This kind of situation rapid develops into the stuff that very
experienced admins need to create for their specific installation.


You mean like every Mac user that installs an add-on package by clicking 
to open it's disk-image distribution and dragging it to a local location?




Hey that is unfair. That is only possible because dependencies and what 
not are already dealt with. Those packages will just work.

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[CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Axel Thimm]

On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 07:47:02AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Axel Thimm wrote:
> >On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:29:25AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> >>You'll have to remind me why anyone wants different same-named packages 
> >>with differences the end user doesn't understand and can't control to 
> >>exist at all before I can comment on a solution about managing them.
> >
> >Let's assume no one wants that (I think I don't). Shouldn't you be
> >chasing the repo that just created the duplicates instead of the ones
> >that supported RHEL/CentOS over years now?
> >
> >And before you rightfully extend the argument - as far as duplicates
> >between RPMForge/Dag, Dries, Karan Extras, CentOS Extras SL contrib
> >and ATrpms are concerned: We're working *together* on eliminating
> >them.
> 
> And yet, conflicts have always kept popping up,

Really? Did you report them?

> and I can't see any provision you make to enable additional
> repositories to exist

Just wait and see.

> The LFHS is the problem here, although putting applications where you 
> want them in the filesystem would make Linux as hard to use as the Mac.
> Oh wait...

IIRC you had some homework to do: Supply a dummy repo that doas all
that you want and convince us thus that there is a problem this
solution solves, so we can all follow your example. Go on and violate
FHS, LSB and all their cousins, if your solution improves something
these standard don't, we might all go for it. But until I see it I
will respectfully assume that there is none (and will also not know
what it was supposed to fix).
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Re: [CentOS] about add/remove software

[Johnny Hughes]

beast wrote:
> In the documentation, it says that add/remove software is use only to
> install
> from CD drive[1]. However this program refuse to run when no internet
> connection, why not just prompt for the installation media? assuming
> everybody has fast internet connection was too optimistic.
>

It isn't an assumption that everyone has one ... but that is what 99.9%
of our users use.

The answer to using add/remove programs might be to disable all repos if
that machine is never going to touch the internet ... then that might
work OK with the DVD only. (If in CentOS5)

Also, if you have ever upgraded any package at all since install, then
the information on the DVD is no good for you ... as it is designed at a
point in time to be inclusive.  If you have upgraded anything, then the
dependencies you have may not be the same as when the DVD is released.
Installing from the DVD can cause problems because of this.

You remember the Microsoft warning that if you use your CD to install a
program, you need to reinstall your service pack X and redo all your
updates?   Same problem, except CentOS won't allow you to install an
older package without some --force switches.

> 1. So what is the correct way to install/remove software after the
> installation (using GUI)?
> 
> 2. In /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Media.repo the sample command was
> incorect, it
> should be  --enablerepo=c5-media.
> But anyway, it still did not works here, centos cd was mounted under
> /media/CentOS_5.0_Final, after manually changed (is there any shortcut, ie
> using old good /dev/cdrom ?) :

NO ... upstream, in there infinite wisdom, decided that something that
is named the exact same thing every time is a "Bad Thing(TM)".  So now,
all new mounts are like that ... /mnt/$CDNAME.

It is quite a PITA to script for.  It does look pretty on the desktop.
An absolutely stupid idea (IMHO).

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] yum.repos.d]# yum --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo=c5-media
> install tftp
> Loading "installonlyn" plugin
> Setting up Install Process
> Setting up repositories
> Reading repository metadata in from local files
> Parsing package install arguments
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait.
> ---> Downloading header for tftp to pack into transaction set.
> media://1176235114.525559%235/CentOS/tftp-0.42-3.1.el5.centos.i386.rpm:
> [Errno 4] IOError: 
> Trying other mirror.
> Error: failed to retrieve CentOS/tftp-0.42-3.1.el5.centos.i386.rpm from
> c5-media
> error was [Errno 4] IOError: 
> 
> 

This kind of thing is very much harder and complicated by the fact that
the anaconda installer now uses the yum libraries to do the initial
install from the CDs and DVDs.  To be honest, I don't know what the
answer is, other than to copy the RPMS off the DVD and create new
metadata locally with createrepo.


> Also i feel that yum is to slow even when running from cache, ymmv.

I didn't write it :D

> 
> 3. What is the program/service responsible to automatically display
> media in
> desktop when mounted?
> 

That depends ... gnome-mount and autofs both play a roll.




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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Les Mikesell]

Stephen Harris wrote:


Now what happens if Fred creates a tin1.8.2 and John creates a tin1.8.2
but with different compile options?


That's really not a big problem and anyone who does development on a 
multiuser machine will be doing it all the time.  In fact even a single 
developer will likely have different versions compiled for testing at 
the same time.  The problem arises when someone has to decide which, if 
any, should become the 'standard' version, at which point it becomes an 
issue of authority, not a technical problem.



 If we can't even get all the
repostories to use a simple repotag, we'd never get them to compile with
non-standard paths!


If everyone is going to fight over the same space it again becomes a 
matter of authority - or a free-for-all.


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[CentOS] recovery data

[Hiep Nguyen]

hi all,

how do i mount usb laptop hard drive to a centos 4 box?  this hard drive 
has 2 partitions: NT (winxp os) and fat32 for data.  i'm unable to boot 
from it and i think NT partition is corrupted.  i did try to connect to 
windows box, but i still can't get to fat32.  any idea how to do this on 
centos box?  i gave up on windows box.


thanks,
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[CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Ray Leventhal]

Hi folks,

As a breather from the
"thread-now-wider-than-my-headers-window-in-thunderbird" conversation
re: mixing repos, I have a question regarding a machine I'm about to put
online. :)

I run a web hosting company and my secondary (primary to the world) DNS
box died from a massive rootkit/hack last night.  It was running an old
Slackware 9.1 installation and I will be completely cleaning those
drives sector-by-sector.  After which I'll be installing CentOS 5 on
that hardware.

As it will be a production server and this is my first foray into
CentOS/SELinux in a production environment I was hoping to get a
recommended list of what to include and, more specifically, what *not*
to include from the distro CDs

I will be doing a text based install, hoping to avoid the installation
of X.  Other than BIND and vsftpd, I don't think I need much.  This
machine will be pulling zone files from my primary web server and
storing some archive files and backups for me.

I'm dilligently R`ingTFMs, and will continue to I'd sure be
appreciative of any jumpstart help and/or any pitfalls of which to be
cognizant.

TIA,
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Re: [CentOS] recovery data

[Hiep Nguyen]

and when i typed dmesg | tail and i got this:

Additional sense: Write error
end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 39776936
Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 4972117
scsi0: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 0, CDB: Read (10) 00 02 5e f2 a8 00 
00 08 00

Info fld=0x0, Current sda: sense key Medium Error
Additional sense: Write error
end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 39776936
Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 4972117
FAT: invalid media value (0xb9)
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda.


anyone got any idea?

T. Hiep


On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Hiep Nguyen wrote:


hi all,

how do i mount usb laptop hard drive to a centos 4 box?  this hard drive has 
2 partitions: NT (winxp os) and fat32 for data.  i'm unable to boot from it 
and i think NT partition is corrupted.  i did try to connect to windows box, 
but i still can't get to fat32.  any idea how to do this on centos box?  i 
gave up on windows box.


thanks,
T. Hiep


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Feizhou]

 If we can't even get all the
repostories to use a simple repotag, we'd never get them to compile with
non-standard paths!


If everyone is going to fight over the same space it again becomes a 
matter of authority - or a free-for-all.




So adding a tag to indicate where the claim comes from so that the end 
user gets to decide who gets to have their claim validated is a fight 
for authority as opposed to those who flatly refuse to have to claim and 
just want the end user to use their repo only?

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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Feizhou]

As it will be a production server and this is my first foray into
CentOS/SELinux in a production environment I was hoping to get a
recommended list of what to include and, more specifically, what *not*
to include from the distro CDs

I will be doing a text based install, hoping to avoid the installation
of X.  Other than BIND and vsftpd, I don't think I need much.  This
machine will be pulling zone files from my primary web server and
storing some archive files and backups for me.



Custom install and remove every package that you can except for bind, 
openssh-server, vsftpd and whatever you use for archiving and backups 
should do the trick.

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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Ray Leventhal]

Feizhou wrote:
>
>> As it will be a production server and this is my first foray into
>> CentOS/SELinux in a production environment I was hoping to get a
>> recommended list of what to include and, more specifically, what *not*
>> to include from the distro CDs
>>
>> I will be doing a text based install, hoping to avoid the installation
>> of X.  Other than BIND and vsftpd, I don't think I need much.  This
>> machine will be pulling zone files from my primary web server and
>> storing some archive files and backups for me.
>>
>
> Custom install and remove every package that you can except for bind,
> openssh-server, vsftpd and whatever you use for archiving and backups
> should do the trick.
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Thank you Feizhou.  I'm hoping it's exactly that easy.

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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Jim Perrin]

On 8/2/07, Ray Leventhal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm dilligently R`ingTFMs, and will continue to I'd sure be
> appreciative of any jumpstart help and/or any pitfalls of which to be
> cognizant.

2 recent pitfalls for bind on RHEL5.
1st being that upstream has removed the default configs for bind. This
was apparently intentional. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=234508 for more
information

also, the last bind update modified some file permissions such that
ldap doesn't start correctly afterwards, so if you're running bind and
ldap on the same box, beware.


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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Feizhou]

Ray Leventhal wrote:

Feizhou wrote:

As it will be a production server and this is my first foray into
CentOS/SELinux in a production environment I was hoping to get a
recommended list of what to include and, more specifically, what *not*
to include from the distro CDs

I will be doing a text based install, hoping to avoid the installation
of X.  Other than BIND and vsftpd, I don't think I need much.  This
machine will be pulling zone files from my primary web server and
storing some archive files and backups for me.


Custom install and remove every package that you can except for bind,
openssh-server, vsftpd and whatever you use for archiving and backups
should do the trick.
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Thank you Feizhou.  I'm hoping it's exactly that easy.


The installer will not let you remove packages that are in the 'Base' 
group. If you remove any package that bind, vsftpd or openssh-server 
needs, it will tell you later and ask you whether you want to ignore or 
install all dependencies and so you should safely get a working system.

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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Ray Leventhal]

Jim Perrin wrote:
> 2 recent pitfalls for bind on RHEL5.
> 1st being that upstream has removed the default configs for bind. This
> was apparently intentional. See
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=234508 for more
> information
>
> also, the last bind update modified some file permissions such that
> ldap doesn't start correctly afterwards, so if you're running bind and
> ldap on the same box, beware.
>   
Thank you, Jim.  I've got the bugzilla link onscreen now and am
reading.  Also, thanks for the ldap and bind warning.  Good to know, but
happily, it's not part of my schema.

Again, my thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Allocating 64 kbits/s out of 256 kbits/s for one LAN behing firewall

[John R Pierce]

Indunil Jayasooriya wrote:
Now, I want put about 5 people (5 PCs) behind this LAN2
and give internet access to them. But, I do not want them to use my
whole bandwidth (
i.e - 256 kbit/s), But Instead, I want peple behind this LAN2 to
allocate  64 kbits/s (kilo
bits per second) for their internert
access. 
  


what if noone on LAN1 is using the net at the moment?  do you still
want to restrict LAN2 to 64k?  why waste the bandwidth?


Is it possible to acheive this task on firewall running
iptables and iproute2 (CentOS 4.5) ? 
  
If so, How can I do such thing? 
  


the clues are in the LARTC howto (Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic
Control)   What you want to do is generally known as 'traffic shaping'.

If I do such thing, what will happen to the people behind
LAN1 ? Will they get whole 256 kbits/s as before or will they get 256
kbit/s - 64  kbit/s for their internet access? 
  



you can't get 5 lbs of stuff in a 4 lb. sack.  :)

if you've allowed max 64k for one class of users, and they are actively
using it, and your traffic shaping guarantees them that 64k, then
there's only 192k left for anyone else.


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[CentOS] Re: recovery data

[Scott Silva]

Hiep Nguyen spake the following on 8/2/2007 7:33 AM:
> and when i typed dmesg | tail and i got this:
> 
> Additional sense: Write error
> end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 39776936
> Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 4972117
> scsi0: ERROR on channel 0, id 0, lun 0, CDB: Read (10) 00 02 5e f2 a8 00
> 00 08 00
> Info fld=0x0, Current sda: sense key Medium Error
> Additional sense: Write error
> end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 39776936
> Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 4972117
> FAT: invalid media value (0xb9)
> VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda.
> 
> 
> anyone got any idea?
> 
Sounds like the drive is past corrupt and actually dead. You might need to try
some recovery software, or if the data is real important, send it out to a
recovery service like Ontrack or Drivesavers. That option is very pricey,
though. I just sent in a 160 GB USB drive that our engineer was storing stuff
to, and it ran near $2000.00 USD. He has since been flogged for not using
company standard data storage practices.


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Re: [CentOS] Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

On 8/1/07, Mark Hull-Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/1/07, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Against the chance you have a bad .pdf, as someone suggested, I've
> > attached one that successfully printed on my Brother HL-5250DN.  The
> > file was produced by OOo
> > (openoffice.org-calc-2.0.4-5.4.17.2).
> >
>
> I will try this when I get the chance - thanks.  It's not all PDFs, though

Printed just fine - text PDFs are not the problem.  Also, the ps files
produced when I print the graphical PDFs to a file will not print
either.

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

On 8/1/07, John Plemons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Have you checked for driver up dates for the printer??  Could be the issue...
>

According to most of the sites I found in Google, the last update to
the Linux printer driver was on August 12, 2004.  I am using the
latest RedHat drivers for RHEL 5.0 (repackaged as CentOS 5.0), which I
am guessing contain the latest and greatest driver code available.

I am using the CUPS foomatic pclmono driver (the recommended driver)
for this printer, and with the exception of graphics files (PDFs, PS
from PDFs and anything from GIMP), everything prints just fine.

Since this does not appear to be a CentOS issue, I have also posted
this in the gnome email list, although I'm not entirely sure that's
the right place to ask, either.

Thanks - more suggestions welcome should any arise.

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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Jay Lee]

Ray Leventhal wrote:

As a breather from the
"thread-now-wider-than-my-headers-window-in-thunderbird" conversation
re: mixing repos, I have a question regarding a machine I'm about to put
online. :)

I run a web hosting company and my secondary (primary to the world) DNS
box died from a massive rootkit/hack last night.  It was running an old
Slackware 9.1 installation and I will be completely cleaning those
drives sector-by-sector.  After which I'll be installing CentOS 5 on
that hardware.

  


CentOS 5 is a .0 release, you might be better served using CentOS 4.5 
which has had much more tme to prove itself as a DNS Server.  4.5 also 
has a good bit of time left on updates to (till Feb 29th, 2012) so you 
shouldn't worry to much about it becoming obsolete.



As it will be a production server and this is my first foray into
CentOS/SELinux in a production environment I was hoping to get a
recommended list of what to include and, more specifically, what *not*
to include from the distro CDs

  


As others have said, start with a bare minimal install and add as you 
need to.  Unless you do a custom kickstart, you'll certainly want to go 
through and remove some of the packages that are in the default install 
but aren't really necessary for a single task server (e.g. bluez-utils, 
NetworkManager, etc).

I will be doing a text based install, hoping to avoid the installation
of X.  Other than BIND and vsftpd, I don't think I need much.  


Why do you need vsftpd?  Plain text FTP could prove very dangerous.  
Maybe you should take this chance to switch over to something more 
secure like SFTP.  The nice thing about sftp is it's up and running 
straight out of the box since SSH is enabled by default.

This
machine will be pulling zone files from my primary web server and
storing some archive files and backups for me.

I'm dilligently R`ingTFMs, and will continue to I'd sure be
appreciative of any jumpstart help and/or any pitfalls of which to be
cognizant.
  


Good luck,

Jay

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[CentOS] CentOS - HP

[Tom Brown]

Hi

Does anyone have experience of running CentOS on HP hardware, both rack 
mount kit and blades? How are things like hardware monitoring etc?
We may be moving from Dell to HP and i get on really well with OMSA and 
Nagios etc so ideally would like to monitor using similar tools rather 
than some central 'enterprise' dashboard etc.


Any real world experience?

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[CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Scott Silva]

Mark Hull-Richter spake the following on 8/2/2007 9:53 AM:
> On 8/1/07, John Plemons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  Have you checked for driver up dates for the printer??  Could be the 
>> issue...
>>
> 
> According to most of the sites I found in Google, the last update to
> the Linux printer driver was on August 12, 2004.  I am using the
> latest RedHat drivers for RHEL 5.0 (repackaged as CentOS 5.0), which I
> am guessing contain the latest and greatest driver code available.
> 
> I am using the CUPS foomatic pclmono driver (the recommended driver)
> for this printer, and with the exception of graphics files (PDFs, PS
> from PDFs and anything from GIMP), everything prints just fine.
> 
> Since this does not appear to be a CentOS issue, I have also posted
> this in the gnome email list, although I'm not entirely sure that's
> the right place to ask, either.
> 
> Thanks - more suggestions welcome should any arise.
> 
> mhr
Try a lower resolution as a test for a printer memory issue.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS - HP

[Barry Brimer]

Quoting Tom Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi
>
> Does anyone have experience of running CentOS on HP hardware, both rack
> mount kit and blades? How are things like hardware monitoring etc?
> We may be moving from Dell to HP and i get on really well with OMSA and
> Nagios etc so ideally would like to monitor using similar tools rather
> than some central 'enterprise' dashboard etc.
>
> Any real world experience?

I have CentOS as well as RHEL on many HP servers, although none of them are
blades.  I do not use Nagios, but I just saw a plugin for nagios that monitors
HP's hpasm today ..


I have not been able to get disk threshold reporting to work in current versions
of hpasm but besides that, no complaints.  I have RHEL 2.1/3/4 and CentOS 4
running on HP hardware with no issues.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Timothy Selivanow]

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 07:47 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Axel Thimm wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:29:25AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> >> You'll have to remind me why anyone wants different same-named packages 
> >> with differences the end user doesn't understand and can't control to 
> >> exist at all before I can comment on a solution about managing them.
> > 
> > Let's assume no one wants that (I think I don't). Shouldn't you be
> > chasing the repo that just created the duplicates instead of the ones
> > that supported RHEL/CentOS over years now?
> > 
> > And before you rightfully extend the argument - as far as duplicates
> > between RPMForge/Dag, Dries, Karan Extras, CentOS Extras SL contrib
> > and ATrpms are concerned: We're working *together* on eliminating
> > them.
> 
> And yet, conflicts have always kept popping up, and I can't see any 
> provision you make to enable additional repositories to exist without 
> coordinating with your rules.  The issue is that there is only one 
> namespace which is the part that doesn't make sense and can't work 
> without a single authority or a hierarchial structure, and I can't come 
> up with a reason that you should be that authority.
> 
> > We're too old for clone wars, the only kid on the block that
> > wants to play by its own rules is on another list, go patronize it ;)
> 
> The LFHS is the problem here, although putting applications where you 
> want them in the filesystem would make Linux as hard to use as the Mac.
> Oh wait...

That compromises one of GNU/Linux's biggest strengths, that of shared
libraries.  So instead of just upgrading OpenSSL, I now have to upgrade
the following that is on one of my servers:

$ rpm -q --whatrequires libcrypto.so.4
cyrus-sasl-2.1.19-5.EL4
cyrus-sasl-md5-2.1.19-5.EL4
lftp-3.0.6-3
pyOpenSSL-0.6-1.p23
stunnel-4.05-3
wget-1.10.2-0.40E
xmlsec1-openssl-1.2.6-3
libwvstreams-3.75.0-2
ipsec-tools-0.3.3-6.rhel4.1
bind-libs-9.2.4-24.EL4
bind-utils-9.2.4-24.EL4
bacula-client-2.0.3-1
openssl-0.9.7a-43.16
python-2.3.4-14.4
openldap-2.2.13-7.4E
net-snmp-libs-5.1.2-11.EL4.10
postgresql-libs-7.4.17-1.RHEL4.1
net-snmp-5.1.2-11.EL4.10
cups-libs-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.20
curl-7.12.1-11.el4
net-snmp-utils-5.1.2-11.EL4.10
postgresql-server-7.4.17-1.RHEL4.1
OpenIPMI-1.4.14-1.4E.17
ntp-4.2.0.a.20040617-6.el4
openssh-server-3.9p1-8.RHEL4.20
openssh-clients-3.9p1-8.RHEL4.20
pam_ccreds-3-3.rhel4.2
openssh-3.9p1-8.RHEL4.20
postfix-2.2.10-1.1.el4
postgresql-7.4.17-1.RHEL4.1
dhcpv6_client-0.10-17_EL4
cups-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.20
$ rpm -q --whatrequires libssl.so.4
lftp-3.0.6-3
pyOpenSSL-0.6-1.p23
stunnel-4.05-3
wget-1.10.2-0.40E
xmlsec1-openssl-1.2.6-3
libwvstreams-3.75.0-2
ipsec-tools-0.3.3-6.rhel4.1
bacula-client-2.0.3-1
openssl-0.9.7a-43.16
python-2.3.4-14.4
openldap-2.2.13-7.4E
postgresql-libs-7.4.17-1.RHEL4.1
cups-libs-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.20
curl-7.12.1-11.el4
postgresql-server-7.4.17-1.RHEL4.1
postfix-2.2.10-1.1.el4
postgresql-7.4.17-1.RHEL4.1
cups-1.1.22-0.rc1.9.20

That's just awesome.  The logistics of that is just staggering, imagine
that just one maintainer failed to update code/recompile against fixed
OpenSSL.  However, I imagine that there could be a hybrid approach, but
this is definitely /not/ the forum to be radically changing the way
GNU/Linux behaves as a whole.  A good start might be on the kernel devel
list.  HPFS also uses embedded meta info, that would probably be needed
also.  Essentially, you are talking *radical* changes when you start
thinking along the lines of "Mac does this; Windows does that; Foo OS
does some other thing...", some of which might be integrated /over
time/.


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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Les Mikesell]

Brian Mathis wrote:

On 8/2/07, Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]

CentOS 5 is a .0 release, you might be better served using CentOS 4.5
which has had much more tme to prove itself as a DNS Server.

[...]

Jay


Please don't propagate this idea.  That is very "Windows wait for
service pack 1" way of thinking. 


Actually it is an 'old' Red Hat way of thinking from the pre-fedora era 
and was very much true for RH versions up though 7.x.



Linuxes actually go through
extensive pre-release public beta testing, the kind of stuff Microsoft
does on its .0 releases. 


I'd say "Enterprise Linux distributions" there.  It's not true for all 
or even most Linux distributions.


> When a new CentOS release lands, it has

landed.


Yes, Centos qualifies as an enterprise version.  Plus something like DNS 
will be fixed immediately if any problems are noticed - long before an 
x.1 update.


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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Brian Mathis]

On 8/2/07, Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> CentOS 5 is a .0 release, you might be better served using CentOS 4.5
> which has had much more tme to prove itself as a DNS Server.
[...]
> Jay

Please don't propagate this idea.  That is very "Windows wait for
service pack 1" way of thinking.  Linuxes actually go through
extensive pre-release public beta testing, the kind of stuff Microsoft
does on its .0 releases.  When a new CentOS release lands, it has
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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Ray Leventhal]

Hi Jay, et al,


> > 
> > CentOS 5 is a .0 release, you might be better served using CentOS 4.5
> > which has had much more tme to prove itself as a DNS Server.  4.5 also
> > has a good bit of time left on updates to (till Feb 29th, 2012) so you
> > shouldn't worry to much about it becoming obsolete.
>   
My experience in both reading this list and working with other sysadmins
is that even though CentOS 5 is a .0 release, it is not only robust, but
a rock solid release.  I've been running CentOS5 on my desktop at home
for more than a few months without issue, so I'm comfortable with 5.0 in
a production environment.  Good point made, though.

> >
> > Why do you need vsftpd?  Plain text FTP could prove very dangerous. 
> > Maybe you should take this chance to switch over to something more
> > secure like SFTP.  The nice thing about sftp is it's up and running
> > straight out of the box since SSH is enabled by default.
>   
That is certainly something to consider.  Myself and one other will be
the only folks using this machine for storage that will require ftp
access so your point is taken.  SFTP is my likely choice after a bit of
reading to ensure compatibility with our tasks.

>> >>   
>> 
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Jay
> >
>   
Thanks...your help is greatly appreciated!

~Ray


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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Jim Perrin]

On 8/2/07, Ray Leventhal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That is certainly something to consider.  Myself and one other will be
> the only folks using this machine for storage that will require ftp
> access so your point is taken.  SFTP is my likely choice after a bit of
> reading to ensure compatibility with our tasks.

While it's also a prime example of not getting the help you asked for,
instead of ftp, or in some cases sftp, you might look at webdav also
depending on your needs.

I use it because it doesn't require a local system account, can be
permissioned via apache, and is very customizable.It helps us out
locally because it's part of http 1.1, so there's no need for added
firewall ports being open, no proxy adjustments, etc.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

On 8/2/07, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try a lower resolution as a test for a printer memory issue.
>

Same problem at 600dpi and 300dpi (lowest setting available).

Still, if that were the problem, would it not also occur when printing
from a Wndows guest under VMWare to the same printer?  It doesn't (or
didn't when my VMWare was running ok).

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Les Mikesell]

Timothy Selivanow wrote:

The LFHS is the problem here, although putting applications where you 
want them in the filesystem would make Linux as hard to use as the Mac.

Oh wait...


That compromises one of GNU/Linux's biggest strengths, that of shared
libraries.  So instead of just upgrading OpenSSL, I now have to upgrade
the following that is on one of my servers:


Unixes have had mechanisms to handle multiple shared library versions 
probably for as long as shared libraries have existed.  Are you sure you 
want _any_ enabled repository to be able to replace your stock ssl libs, 
though?  So far the discussion has assumed that everyone involved is 
operating in good faith and all problems are just accidental, but what 
if...?


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Re: [CentOS] new CentOS 5 as DNS server

[Les Mikesell]

Jim Perrin wrote:

On 8/2/07, Ray Leventhal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That is certainly something to consider.  Myself and one other will be
the only folks using this machine for storage that will require ftp
access so your point is taken.  SFTP is my likely choice after a bit of
reading to ensure compatibility with our tasks.


While it's also a prime example of not getting the help you asked for,
instead of ftp, or in some cases sftp, you might look at webdav also
depending on your needs.

I use it because it doesn't require a local system account, can be
permissioned via apache, and is very customizable.It helps us out
locally because it's part of http 1.1, so there's no need for added
firewall ports being open, no proxy adjustments, etc.


My favorite way to move files is with rsync over ssh since it does the 
right thing about not replacing existing files until the copy is 
complete, is more efficient sometimes, and works with windows/cygwin 
too.  Windows users sometimes prefer winscp, though.


But back to DNS - I run a really old and ugly script after updating zone 
files that builds the reverse zones, commits the changes to a cvs 
repository, and restarts named to pick up the changes.  Is there some 
modern equivalent for this operation?


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[CentOS] Debian DomU on Centos 4.4 Dom0

[Eduardo Grosclaude]

Hello, Can somebody point some docs on how to do this? Has anyone done it
--known pitfalls?
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[CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Scott Silva]

Mark Hull-Richter spake the following on 8/2/2007 11:11 AM:
> On 8/2/07, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Try a lower resolution as a test for a printer memory issue.
>>
> 
> Same problem at 600dpi and 300dpi (lowest setting available).
> 
> Still, if that were the problem, would it not also occur when printing
> from a Wndows guest under VMWare to the same printer?  It doesn't (or
> didn't when my VMWare was running ok).
> 
> mhr
It could have been that the windows driver sent the images compressed or some
other optimizations.
Open printing recommends the pxlmono driver. Maybe theirs is more up to date.


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RE: [CentOS] CentOS - HP

[Robert - eLists]

> 
> Does anyone have experience of running CentOS on HP hardware, both rack
> mount kit and blades? How are things like hardware monitoring etc?
> We may be moving from Dell to HP and i get on really well with OMSA and
> Nagios etc so ideally would like to monitor using similar tools rather
> than some central 'enterprise' dashboard etc.
> 
> Any real world experience?
> 
> thanks

Tom

CentOS on older Compaq and newer HP is the awesome Vvvrrr BOOM
BOMB!!!

Hm though I think I am a little HP and CentOS biased, even though there
are new and old Dell and IBM rackmounts as well as IBM Blade Server units
here too.

I think I would like to play with one of the Big BlueGene IBM mainframes
with linux etc on it though.

http://www.top500.org

;->

CentOS just installs and works when other distros I have seen some of our
colo clients using URP way too much on install or after.

Even with using linux since a lil before version 1, I don't know everything,
and in all fairness to other distros, some admins don't know what they are
doing when it comes to linux administration.

Basic network and hardware monitoring works well here, yet we are not doing
what you are doing the same way.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Timothy Selivanow]

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 13:26 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Timothy Selivanow wrote:
> 
> >> The LFHS is the problem here, although putting applications where you 
> >> want them in the filesystem would make Linux as hard to use as the Mac.
> >> Oh wait...
> > 
> > That compromises one of GNU/Linux's biggest strengths, that of shared
> > libraries.  So instead of just upgrading OpenSSL, I now have to upgrade
> > the following that is on one of my servers:
> 
> Unixes have had mechanisms to handle multiple shared library versions 
> probably for as long as shared libraries have existed.

Yes, but like alternatives, there is a default and each time you want to
deviate from the default you must specify.  Even implementing a meta
filesystem to store per-application environment settings is just as much
work in logistics as using wrapper-scripts.  Not that it couldn't be
done, but your are still talking about major changes that are beyond the
scope of just RPM.  You are looking for a quick and easy way (i.e., no
real maintenance on your part) to have multiple libraries and multiple
same programs with auto-magical negotiation that the under-laying
structure doesn't support.

> Are you sure you want _any_ enabled repository to be able to replace your 
> stock ssl libs, though?  So far the discussion has assumed that everyone 
> involved is operating in good faith and all problems are just accidental, 
> but what if...?
> 

"What if" indeed!  That is one reason why I use only /my/ repo on my
servers.  In the past I used Karan's for a few packages, but decided to
just maintain a repo for the few extra packages I need.  For desktop
(F7), I use (currently) only one 3rd party repo (and well-known, so
hopefully not shady in nature) and I am able to see what repo the
updates are coming from in yumex and yum.


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[CentOS] Full server restore-point image

[Alain Reguera Delgado]

Hi,

After some months of configuring and testing a small server, think
that would be nice to make a full server restore-point image in order
to recover it if something goes wrong in the future, just restoring
the image back and not making the full install and configure process
all over again. The server uses Logical Volumes.

I was thinking on using the CentOS LiveCD and then use dd command to
clone all partitions to another storage device. But I have no
experience on this.

What do you suggest ?

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Full server restore-point image

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Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

> I was thinking on using the CentOS LiveCD and then use dd command to
> clone all partitions to another storage device. But I have no
> experience on this.

You could also check out Ghost 4 Linux. I've used it to clone hard
drives before, and it's very easy to use. I believe you can even use it
across the net with NFS and such.

Boot it up, and basically tell it to clone the entire drive or you can
pick whatever partitions you want too.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l

Regards,
Max

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

On 8/2/07, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It could have been that the windows driver sent the images compressed or some
> other optimizations.
> Open printing recommends the pxlmono driver. Maybe theirs is more up to date.
>

That's the one I'm using

Thanks.

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[CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no ftpd) on latest update from CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

The subject pretty much says it all.  My ftp comes back with "ftp: ftp/tcp:
unknown service" - unless I run it as root, in which case it works just
fine.

What's going on here?  Did I screw up a setting of mine or something?

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Full server restore-point image

[Les Mikesell]

Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

Hi,

After some months of configuring and testing a small server, think
that would be nice to make a full server restore-point image in order
to recover it if something goes wrong in the future, just restoring
the image back and not making the full install and configure process
all over again. The server uses Logical Volumes.

I was thinking on using the CentOS LiveCD and then use dd command to
clone all partitions to another storage device. But I have no
experience on this.

What do you suggest ?


Yes, if you have an identical drive, booting a CD and dd'ing the whole 
image is an easy way to do it.  You can use the install CD if you enter 
'linux rescue' at the boot prompt.


The 'clonezilla live' cd from http://clonezilla.sourceforge.net/ will 
work over the network if you have somewhere you can reach with ssh to 
store the image but it doesn't work with software raid devices.


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RE: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hull-Richter
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:53 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0
> 
> On 8/1/07, John Plemons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Have you checked for driver up dates for the printer??  
> Could be the issue...
> >
> 
> According to most of the sites I found in Google, the last update to
> the Linux printer driver was on August 12, 2004.  I am using the
> latest RedHat drivers for RHEL 5.0 (repackaged as CentOS 5.0), which I
> am guessing contain the latest and greatest driver code available.
> 
> I am using the CUPS foomatic pclmono driver (the recommended driver)
> for this printer, and with the exception of graphics files (PDFs, PS
> from PDFs and anything from GIMP), everything prints just fine.
> 
> Since this does not appear to be a CentOS issue, I have also posted
> this in the gnome email list, although I'm not entirely sure that's
> the right place to ask, either.
> 
> Thanks - more suggestions welcome should any arise.

By the looks of it it appears to be a problem with printing postscript.

Is the ghostscript package and it's fonts properly installed?

If you enscript a text file and print it does it come out ok?

-Ross

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[CentOS] Chmod Explaination

[joseph blase]

Howdy list,

 I can't seem to find any doc's explaining what's really going on behind
this scenario:

A user home directory had been reset to :

d--- --- --- user group user_dir


As root i tried to :

chmod -R 750 user_dir

got permission denied, my friend tried with as user that owns the directory
to:

chmod -R 750 user_dir  and voila it works.

My question is how come did it work, since the user_dir doesn't have a owner
permission attached and why user root has been denied with changing the
mode?


Rgds,

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RE: [CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no ftpd) on latestupdate from CentOS 5.0

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hull-Richter
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:27 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: [CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no ftpd) 
> on latestupdate from CentOS 5.0
> 
> The subject pretty much says it all.  My ftp comes back with 
> "ftp: ftp/tcp: unknown service" - unless I run it as root, in 
> which case it works just fine.
> 
> What's going on here?  Did I screw up a setting of mine or something? 
> 
> Thanks.

Did the permissions on /etc/services get messed up?

-Ross

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RE: [CentOS] Chmod Explaination

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joseph blase
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:33 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: [CentOS] Chmod Explaination
> 
> Howdy list,
> 
>  I can't seem to find any doc's explaining what's really 
> going on behind this scenario:
> 
> A user home directory had been reset to :
> 
> d--- --- --- user group user_dir
> 
> 
> As root i tried to : 
> 
> chmod -R 750 user_dir 
> 
> got permission denied, my friend tried with as user that owns 
> the directory to:
> 
> chmod -R 750 user_dir  and voila it works.
> 
> My question is how come did it work, since the user_dir 
> doesn't have a owner permission attached and why user root 
> has been denied with changing the mode? 

Owners always have rights to change permission on a file/folder.

As far as root not being able to, do you have selinux running?

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> By the looks of it it appears to be a problem with printing postscript.
>
> Is the ghostscript package and it's fonts properly installed?
>
Here's what I show (that I know to looks for, although I presume that
if this shows, other dependencies must have been resolved since I use
yum for virtually all installations):

$ rpm -qa | grep ghost
ghostscript-8.15.2-9.1.el5.x86_64
ghostscript-fonts-5.50-13.1.1.noarch
ghostscript-8.15.2-9.1.el5.i386

> If you enscript a text file and print it does it come out ok?
>

Not quite sure how to do this, but here's what I did:

Used gedit to create a pdf of a text file, then AR to print it - fine.
Used AR to create a ps file from the pdf, then printed it - fine.
Used gedit to print to the generic postscript printer (lpr) and - came out fine.

Text is not a problem, just something about these graphic pdfs (and
any graphics file from the GIMP).  Note that the image viewer prints
jpeg graphics just fine, too.

Thanks again.

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Re: [CentOS] Chmod Explaination

[joseph blase]

On 8/3/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joseph blase
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:33 PM
> > To: CentOS mailing list
> > Subject: [CentOS] Chmod Explaination
> >
> > Howdy list,
> >
> >  I can't seem to find any doc's explaining what's really
> > going on behind this scenario:
> >
> > A user home directory had been reset to :
> >
> > d--- --- --- user group user_dir
> >
> >
> > As root i tried to :
> >
> > chmod -R 750 user_dir
> >
> > got permission denied, my friend tried with as user that owns
> > the directory to:
> >
> > chmod -R 750 user_dir  and voila it works.
> >
> > My question is how come did it work, since the user_dir
> > doesn't have a owner permission attached and why user root
> > has been denied with changing the mode?
>
> Owners always have rights to change permission on a file/folder.



Even those that were reset? I thinking that it's good as no permission cause
it has  only d--- --- ---   user_dir.



As far as root not being able to, do you have selinux running?


No, I don't have.


-Ross



-Joseph

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Re: [CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no ftpd) on latestupdate from CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Did the permissions on /etc/services get messed up?
>

# ll /etc/services
-rw-r- 1 root root 362154 Aug  1 10:23 /etc/services

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RE: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hull-Richter
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:44 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0
> 
> On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > By the looks of it it appears to be a problem with printing 
> postscript.
> >
> > Is the ghostscript package and it's fonts properly installed?
> >
> Here's what I show (that I know to looks for, although I presume that
> if this shows, other dependencies must have been resolved since I use
> yum for virtually all installations):
> 
> $ rpm -qa | grep ghost
> ghostscript-8.15.2-9.1.el5.x86_64
> ghostscript-fonts-5.50-13.1.1.noarch
> ghostscript-8.15.2-9.1.el5.i386
> 
> > If you enscript a text file and print it does it come out ok?
> >
> 
> Not quite sure how to do this, but here's what I did:
> 
> Used gedit to create a pdf of a text file, then AR to print it - fine.
> Used AR to create a ps file from the pdf, then printed it - fine.
> Used gedit to print to the generic postscript printer (lpr) 
> and - came out fine.
> 
> Text is not a problem, just something about these graphic pdfs (and
> any graphics file from the GIMP).  Note that the image viewer prints
> jpeg graphics just fine, too.

Ok, so it's not a general postscript failure, but maybe just EPS...

If the printer needs a hard-reset to recover then it is probably
because the printer isn't fully PCL compatible as it advertises,
can you try using an HP Deskjet engine which does PCL 3?

-Ross

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RE: [CentOS] Chmod Explaination

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joseph blase
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:45 PM
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> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Chmod Explaination
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/3/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   > -Original Message-
>   > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joseph blase 
>   > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:33 PM
>   > To: CentOS mailing list
>   > Subject: [CentOS] Chmod Explaination
>   >
>   > Howdy list,
>   >
>   >  I can't seem to find any doc's explaining what's really 
>   > going on behind this scenario:
>   >
>   > A user home directory had been reset to :
>   >
>   > d--- --- --- user group user_dir
>   >
>   >
>   > As root i tried to :
>   >
>   > chmod -R 750 user_dir 
>   >
>   > got permission denied, my friend tried with as user that owns
>   > the directory to:
>   >
>   > chmod -R 750 user_dir  and voila it works.
>   >
>   > My question is how come did it work, since the user_dir 
>   > doesn't have a owner permission attached and why user root
>   > has been denied with changing the mode?
>   
>   Owners always have rights to change permission on a file/folder.
> 
> Even those that were reset? I thinking that it's good as no 
> permission cause it has  only d--- --- ---   user_dir. 
> 

Yes, implicitly have them, it's a fail-safe feature.

> 
>   As far as root not being able to, do you have selinux running?
> 
> 
> No, I don't have.

Then I dunno why root didn't, as with selinux disabled root also
has implicit rights to all files/folders, but with selinux enabled
security context can be setup on a directory hierarchy to only
give implict rights to owners.

-Ross

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RE: [CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no ftpd) onlatestupdate from CentOS 5.0

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hull-Richter
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:47 PM
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> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no 
> ftpd) onlatestupdate from CentOS 5.0
> 
> On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Did the permissions on /etc/services get messed up?
> >
> 
> # ll /etc/services
> -rw-r- 1 root root 362154 Aug  1 10:23 /etc/services

Yeah... it should be 644

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Kenneth Porter]

--On Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:33 AM +0200 "\"Petr \\\"Qaxi\\\" Klíma\"" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Form my point of view (FMPOV) is placing everithing to /usr/bin bad too
over there FMPOV everithing what is not core system should by in
/usr/local/bin or bigger packages in /opt


/usr/local is for the local administrator, not for packages. Stuff like 
backup scripts and stuff built outside of packages. /opt is for 3rd party 
vendors, so it seems a reasonable place to put 3rd party repo stuff.



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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok, so it's not a general postscript failure, but maybe just EPS...
>

EPS?

> If the printer needs a hard-reset to recover then it is probably
> because the printer isn't fully PCL compatible as it advertises,
> can you try using an HP Deskjet engine which does PCL 3?
>

It usually takes two or three power cycles to get the printer to quit
being stupid about it (so to speak).  I also have to cancel the print
job (of course).

I'm not sure how to do what you suggest here.  In AR on the 'print'
window, there are a few options I've tried differently.  The default
is optimize for speed and use level 2 (I'm guessing that's PCL level
2).  I've tried setting it to 'save printer memory' and 'use level 3',
neither of which works.

What usually happens is that the green light on the printer flashes
for a few seconds, indicating that it is processing the file, then the
red light goes on steady (I don't know how to retrieve the printer
status on Linux, and it only worked sporadically on Windows when I
used that, but I never saw this particular problem there...).

I've only been able to find a paucity of information about this (or
any) printer under Linux/CentOS - I've used lpstat, the (gnome)
printer administration tool, and occasionally the CUPS interface -
what am I looking for so that I can tell what/how to change it?

Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no ftpd) onlatestupdate from CentOS 5.0

[Mark Hull-Richter]

On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah... it should be 644
>

Ah, a light goes on.  I have the root umask set to 027.  I take it
from this that it should be 022 or 002 - which is better/correct?

Thanks (mucho).

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Marko A. Jennings]

On Thu, August 2, 2007 6:02 pm, Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
> On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so it's not a general postscript failure, but maybe just EPS...
>>
>
> EPS?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encapsulated_PostScript

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[CentOS] how to export and import VMware servers

[Rogelio Bastardo]

I recently build a CentOS-based VMware server (the free ver) and now
need to move all of the virtual machines off my old Windows-based
VMware server (also the free ver) to this next CentOS-based one.

I have successfully FTP'd all of the files to the new CentOS box and
have even opened the server in the console Window, but cannot "start"
it.  I start the machine (like I always do), and nothing happens.
Unfortunately, I cannot simply run "import", as I'm using a
Windows-based workstation to use the Windows-program to console into
the CentOS-based VMware server.

I suspect that perhaps some config file or something still thinks that
the machine is still running in the previous Windows host OS?

Now, both my guest OS and host OS are both CentOS 4.5.  Before, the
host OS was Windows 2003, and my host OS is CentOS 4.5.

Any ideas of where to look would be greatly appreciated.

(I understand that this might not be the best place to ask such a non
CentOS-related question.)
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Re: [CentOS] how to export and import VMware servers

[Marko A. Jennings]

On Thu, August 2, 2007 6:27 pm, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
> I recently build a CentOS-based VMware server (the free ver) and now
> need to move all of the virtual machines off my old Windows-based
> VMware server (also the free ver) to this next CentOS-based one.
>
> I have successfully FTP'd all of the files to the new CentOS box and
> have even opened the server in the console Window, but cannot "start"
> it.


Take a look at file and directory permissions.  I've seen this kind of
behavior where some (or all) VMware files were not writable by appropriate
users.
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Re: [CentOS] how to export and import VMware servers

[Max Hetrick]

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Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
> I recently build a CentOS-based VMware server (the free ver) and now
> need to move all of the virtual machines off my old Windows-based
> VMware server (also the free ver) to this next CentOS-based one.
> 
> I have successfully FTP'd all of the files to the new CentOS box and
> have even opened the server in the console Window, but cannot "start"
> it.  I start the machine (like I always do), and nothing happens.
> Unfortunately, I cannot simply run "import", as I'm using a
> Windows-based workstation to use the Windows-program to console into
> the CentOS-based VMware server.
> 
> I suspect that perhaps some config file or something still thinks that
> the machine is still running in the previous Windows host OS?
> 
> Now, both my guest OS and host OS are both CentOS 4.5.  Before, the
> host OS was Windows 2003, and my host OS is CentOS 4.5.
> 
> Any ideas of where to look would be greatly appreciated.
> 

Check to make sure there are no lock files in there. When the machines
are running, there should be lock files. These can get in the way is
they are hanging around.

Also, check your permissions. Make sure that they are the same as they
were before, or that the current user is allowed to access them.

I've never tried moving from Windows to Linux, I wouldn't think there
would be any issues because of that. I know moving from Linux to other
Linux VMware servers, permissions are usually why the machines won't
start when you start moving directories around.

I would check these things first.

Regards,
Max
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Re: [CentOS] how to export and import VMware servers

[Les Mikesell]

Rogelio Bastardo wrote:

I recently build a CentOS-based VMware server (the free ver) and now
need to move all of the virtual machines off my old Windows-based
VMware server (also the free ver) to this next CentOS-based one.

I have successfully FTP'd all of the files to the new CentOS box and
have even opened the server in the console Window, but cannot "start"
it.  I start the machine (like I always do), and nothing happens.
Unfortunately, I cannot simply run "import", as I'm using a
Windows-based workstation to use the Windows-program to console into
the CentOS-based VMware server.

I suspect that perhaps some config file or something still thinks that
the machine is still running in the previous Windows host OS?

Now, both my guest OS and host OS are both CentOS 4.5.  Before, the
host OS was Windows 2003, and my host OS is CentOS 4.5.

Any ideas of where to look would be greatly appreciated.

(I understand that this might not be the best place to ask such a non
CentOS-related question.)


That should just work, although you may have to fiddle with the device 
names for the floppy and cd a bit and make sure your network handling is 
set the same way.  But it may be as simple as the *.vmx file for the 
virtual machine needing to be executable by the user who is starting it. 
  A 'chmod +x' might fix it.  Otherwise look for a log file in the 
directory that will mention the error.


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Re: [CentOS] how to export and import VMware servers

[Rogelio Bastardo]

> Also, check your permissions. Make sure that they are the same as they
> were before, or that the current user is allowed to access them.

I feel stupid b/c that was actually it.

Thanks, Max!
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Re: [CentOS] Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

[Steven Vishoot]

--- Jim Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay folks, I think we've just about beaten this
> horse long enough.
> Lets all agree that the whole mess needs some
> clarity, and that any
> griping on this list is not likely to resolve the
> issue.
> 
> Can we please let this thread die now and get back
> to some centos
> related help/business?
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[fredex]

On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 02:18:41PM -0700, Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
> On 8/2/07, Scott Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It could have been that the windows driver sent the images compressed or 
> > some
> > other optimizations.
> > Open printing recommends the pxlmono driver. Maybe theirs is more up to 
> > date.
> >
> 
> That's the one I'm using
> 

I missed earlier postings in this thread, so please allow me to ask:
Areyou trying to print with (e.g.) Acroread, or are you trying to print
using "lpr foo.pdf"? Does either (or neither) work?

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[CentOS] Re: Full server restore-point image

[Alain Reguera Delgado]

Thank you very much guys,

I'll try those liveCDs.


Cheers,

al.
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Re: [CentOS] Full server restore-point image

[Michael Kratz]

On 03/08/2007, at 7:01 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:


Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

Hi,
After some months of configuring and testing a small server, think
that would be nice to make a full server restore-point image in order
to recover it if something goes wrong in the future, just restoring
the image back and not making the full install and configure process
all over again. The server uses Logical Volumes.
I was thinking on using the CentOS LiveCD and then use dd command to
clone all partitions to another storage device. But I have no
experience on this.
What do you suggest ?


Yes, if you have an identical drive, booting a CD and dd'ing the  
whole image is an easy way to do it.  You can use the install CD if  
you enter 'linux rescue' at the boot prompt.


Does this work if the hard drive isn't exactly identical?

I've previously done something similar to this from a hardware RAID5  
array to a single SATA drive.


I basically attached the SATA drive to the system, booted into single  
user mode, then DD'ed the RAID array to the SATA drive.


The SATA drive was big enough to take all of the data from the RAID  
array, and indeed DD indicated that this had occurred once it completed.




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[CentOS] proxy arp on CentOS 5?

[Florin Andrei]

Anybody implemented a working proxy ARP with CentOS 5?

I am trying to implement DNAT on a dual-homed firewall (servers behind 
firewall are on private IPs) and that requires proxy ARP. I've tried 
several different methods but nothing seems to work.


Any advice? Is proxy ARP broken on v5?

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Re: [CentOS] Chmod Explaination

[Steve Huff]

On Aug 2, 2007, at 5:58 PM, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:


As far as root not being able to, do you have selinux running?

No, I don't have.


Then I dunno why root didn't, as with selinux disabled root also
has implicit rights to all files/folders, but with selinux enabled
security context can be setup on a directory hierarchy to only
give implict rights to owners.


is user_dir on an NFS share?

-steve

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Re: [CentOS] Full server restore-point image

[Paul]

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 16:26 -0400, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After some months of configuring and testing a small server, think
> that would be nice to make a full server restore-point image in order
> to recover it if something goes wrong in the future, just restoring
> the image back and not making the full install and configure process
> all over again. The server uses Logical Volumes.
> 
> I was thinking on using the CentOS LiveCD and then use dd command to
> clone all partitions to another storage device. But I have no
> experience on this.
> 
> What do you suggest ?

Mondo Rescue http://www.mondorescue.org/ is something I've used in the
past.  It can make a boot CD or DVD that can be used to restore your
system from bare metal, it was pretty slick the time I used it.

Regards,
Paul Berger 

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> al.
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RE: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hull-Richter
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:02 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't print PDFs or PSs in CentOS 5.0
> 
> On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, so it's not a general postscript failure, but maybe just EPS...
> >
> 
> EPS?

As the other poster pointed out it encapsulated postscript, a lot
of bitmaps are bound in an encapsulating postscript object wrapped
in a postscript object for printing.

> > If the printer needs a hard-reset to recover then it is probably
> > because the printer isn't fully PCL compatible as it advertises,
> > can you try using an HP Deskjet engine which does PCL 3?
> >
> 
> It usually takes two or three power cycles to get the printer to quit
> being stupid about it (so to speak).  I also have to cancel the print
> job (of course).

If you kill the job first then power cycle the printer it could be
done in 1 I bet, otherwise the job keeps pumping output to the printer
and you get a ton of garbage.

> I'm not sure how to do what you suggest here.  In AR on the 'print'
> window, there are a few options I've tried differently.  The default
> is optimize for speed and use level 2 (I'm guessing that's PCL level
> 2).  I've tried setting it to 'save printer memory' and 'use level 3',
> neither of which works.

Not in reader, but down at the CUPS setup when you setup your printer
originally you probably chose a model from the foomatic database that
was close-enough, go back and change that model to HP Deskjet which
should provide the lowest level of PCL support that almost all PCL
compatible printers should support. If that works then try an HP
LaserJet 4 next, if that works then you have a good fall-back.

The levels in AR correspond to PostScript levels and not PCL, I think
it's a PCL compatibility issue that your hitting here.

You can also scan the Internet to see if someone has put together a
working CUPS PPD (different PPD than the standard postscript printer
definition) file for your particular model.

> What usually happens is that the green light on the printer flashes
> for a few seconds, indicating that it is processing the file, then the
> red light goes on steady (I don't know how to retrieve the printer
> status on Linux, and it only worked sporadically on Windows when I
> used that, but I never saw this particular problem there...).
> 
> I've only been able to find a paucity of information about this (or
> any) printer under Linux/CentOS - I've used lpstat, the (gnome)
> printer administration tool, and occasionally the CUPS interface -
> what am I looking for so that I can tell what/how to change it?

Well I think printer status is communicated through hal/dbus and
cups, but if the printer blinks red that's a sure sign that things
are not good.

-Ross

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RE: [CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no ftpd)onlatestupdate from CentOS 5.0

[Ross S. W. Walker]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Hull-Richter
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Another oddity - users get no ftp (no 
> ftpd)onlatestupdate from CentOS 5.0
> 
> On 8/2/07, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah... it should be 644
> >
> 
> Ah, a light goes on.  I have the root umask set to 027.  I take it
> from this that it should be 022 or 002 - which is better/correct?

022 is what you'll want 002 leaks too much to the group.

-Ross

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