[ccp4bb] A crystallisation screen pH query.

2019-10-05 Thread Jon Cooper
Does anyone know the pH of JCSG+ condition A3 which is stated as 0.2 M ammonium citrate dibasic, 20% (v/v) PEG3350. I can't really measure it myself, so any help much appreciated!


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Re: [ccp4bb] A crystallisation screen pH query.

2019-10-05 Thread Diana Tomchick
Although it sounds as though this condition was not pH adjusted by the company, 
here are a couple of suggestions that are applicable to ANY commercial screen 
condition.


1) Try looking at the company's web site for details on how the solution was 
made, or failing that, try calling the company where you bought the screen and 
ask (you don't specify the company in your question).

2) Take a small drop of the screen solution from the reservoir well and apply 
it to pH paper, it'll give you an approximate idea.


Don't forget that the protein and the contents of the protein buffer solution 
will also affect the pH in the mother liquor.


Diana


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Does anyone know the pH of JCSG+ condition A3 which is stated as 0.2 M ammonium 
citrate dibasic, 20% (v/v) PEG3350. I can't really measure it myself, so any 
help much appreciated!



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Re: [ccp4bb] A crystallisation screen pH query.

2019-10-05 Thread Peat, Tom (Manufacturing, Parkville)
As was suggested, you can take a small drop and use pH paper to get a rough 
idea of the pH.
The pH will go acidic over time as you have 20% PEG in there. This is an issue 
with all PEG conditions, so your specific pH will not be known by someone 
outside your lab as they don't know how old your screen is (and whether you've 
kept it frozen, in the fridge, at room temp, etc).
Best of luck, tom

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Re: [ccp4bb] A crystallisation screen pH query.

2019-10-05 Thread Jon Cooper
Many thanks for the excellent replies. I am very happy with the value of 5.1 which two of you kindly sent.Best wishesJon CooperOn 5 Oct 2019 22:51, Bob Cudney  wrote:

Hello Jon,
 
That JCSG+ reagent is a copy of Hampton Research PEG/Ion reagent 48.  While there is no pH adjustment made during the formulation of this reagent, the 20% w/v PEG 3350, 0.2 M Ammonium citrate dibasic in deionized water results in a measured
 pH at 25 degrees Celsius of 5.1.  The formulation as well as measured pH, refractive index, conductivity and other details can be found here

https://hamptonresearch.com/product-PEG-Ion-PEG-Ion-2-PEG-Ion-HT-11.html under the Support Material(s).  Hope this helps.
 
Kind Regards, Bob Cudney
 
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