[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
Ok, pulling in postfix is very disruptive since gpg-wks-client was seeded in Ubuntu Desktop 22.04 LTS and 23.10 and several flavors. postfix's install has a debconf prompt which is now allowed for the default desktop install. ** Summary changed: - gnupg is pulling in gpg-wks-server which pulls in postfix + gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix ** Changed in: ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix and gpg-wks-server is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. Notably, gnupg has Suggests: gpg-wks-server (<< 2.4.4-2ubuntu7.1~), gpg-wks-server (>= 2.4.4-2ubuntu7) I don't recall ever seeing strict versioned Suggests before so it's my wild guess that apt does not strict handle versioned Suggests in the expected way. As a workaround, try dropping the versions from gnupg's Suggests. But the true fix may be in apt. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
** Description changed: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix and gpg-wks-server is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. - Notably, gnupg has - Suggests: gpg-wks-server (<< 2.4.4-2ubuntu7.1~), gpg-wks-server (>= 2.4.4-2ubuntu7) - - I don't recall ever seeing strict versioned Suggests before so it's my - wild guess that apt does not strict handle versioned Suggests in the - expected way. - - As a workaround, try dropping the versions from gnupg's Suggests. - - But the true fix may be in apt. - I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. ** Description changed: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 - munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix and gpg-wks-server is now unexpectedly being installed. + munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
What is the rationale for a gpg package pulling in an MTA at all? I think this needs assessed. ** Changed in: gnupg2 (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: New Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
** Description changed: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info - gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. + gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: New Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: gnupg2 (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
Steve - it is a server package for hosting a web key server, it's entirely reasonable for it to depend on a mail transport agent. A WKS server, upon uploading a key, sends confirmation emails to the UIDs in the key, before publishing it, so that it only published keys with consent. It's problematic that it was installed by default, and I'm fixing this here and in Debian by doing the restructuring I did. This is not optimal for people upgrading without quirks (i.e. Debian users especially) but I don't think breaking the wks server to make upgrades without quirks nicer is a better choice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
I found the same problem also in Xubuntu 24.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 07:13:30PM -, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > Steve - it is a server package for hosting a web key server, it's > entirely reasonable for it to depend on a mail transport agent. A WKS > server, upon uploading a key, sends confirmation emails to the UIDs in > the key, before publishing it, so that it only published keys with > consent. Ok. This is a sensible rationale, unfortunately. But it was important to surface that in this bug report. > It's problematic that it was installed by default, and I'm fixing this > here and in Debian by doing the restructuring I did. This is not optimal > for people upgrading without quirks (i.e. Debian users especially) but I > don't think breaking the wks server to make upgrades without quirks > nicer is a better choice. Yeah, I don't see any better solution here. The only non-quirk solution would be to add an artificial Conflicts: against gpg-wks-server. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Canonical-ubuntu-qa] [Bug 2054908] Re: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix
Remind me to add negative Recommends to apt at some point. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical's Ubuntu QA, which is subscribed to Auto Package Testing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2054908 Title: gpg-wks-server pulls in postfix Status in Auto Package Testing: New Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in gnupg2 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in munin package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in ubuntu-release-upgrader package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Example 1 I did a sudo apt dist-upgrade today on my developer machine running Ubuntu Desktop 24.04 LTS and it surprisingly pulled in postfix. I did not built this into a full reproducible test case because I found another test case… Example 2 munin's autopkgtests are now failing because postfix is now unexpectedly being installed. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/munin/noble/amd64 Other Info gnupg2's changelog indicates that there was an attempt to avoid this misbehavior by having gnupg only Suggest gpg-wks-server. In fact, there is **nothing** in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS that Depends or Recommends gpg-wks-server. I added a munin bug task as a pointer in case anyone wonder's about the autopkgtest regression but I don't believe munin needs any changes. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/2054908/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa Post to : canonical-ubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~canonical-ubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
