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boot broken

2002-06-01 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt

Hi,

Roland, you should learn to type some day. We don't have an
I386_THREAD_STATE macro, but we do have an i386_THREAD_STATE
one. Here is the fix (no log entry).

--- boot.c.~1.105.~ Wed May 29 16:28:38 2002
+++ boot.c  Sat Jun  1 12:24:20 2002
@@ -381,7 +381,7 @@ boot_script_exec_cmd (void *hook,
  stack_end - trunc_page ((vm_offset_t) arg_pos));
 
   thread_create (task, &thread);
-#ifdef I386_THREAD_STATE
+#ifdef i386_THREAD_STATE
   {
 struct i386_thread_state regs;
 reg_size = i386_THREAD_STATE_COUNT;

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Debugging help

2002-06-01 Thread Niels Möller

I've experienced a few more or less reproducible hangs on Neal's Hurd
box (dryden).

One example: I telnet in to the box. Start screen. Start emacs. Type
M-x man RET non-existing-command RET.

Then emacs displays a message saying that the man page can't be found,
and then I lose contact with both emacs and screen.

Logging in again, killing the hanging processes, and running screen
-ls gives

  nisse@dryden:~$ screen -ls
  There is a screen on:
  6098.ttyp0.dryden   (Dead ???)
  Remove dead screens with 'screen -wipe'.
  1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-nisse.

so appearantly, screen just died.

In another case, lsh-make-seed hanged, typing ^C didn't work, and I
also lost contact with my screen. I logged in again from a different
xterm, and killed the lsh-make-seed process, but I still didn't get
back to the shell where it was started.

Hmm, I'm now trying lsh-make-seed -v --trace --debug, and from the
output, it seems that it hangs in poll. And it's not interruptable
with ^C.

This report is somewhat unstructured, so I guess my question is: How
do I get more information about the failing processes, so I can file
useful bug reports?

/Niels

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Re: Debugging help

2002-06-01 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt


Try attaching gdb to the evil process and see if you can get something
useful from a back-trace or set some break points here and there to
see where it fails.

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Re: 16 bit UIDs

2002-06-01 Thread Wolfgang Jährling

Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One idea is just a straightforward file somewhere in the filesystem
> that holds an index of inode numbers and UIDs.

Will we use 64-bit UIDs on 64-bit systems?  If so, we should use 64 bit
wide UID fields on 32-bit machines as well, thus staying compatible,
right?

Cheers,
GNU/Wolfgang

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libiohelp

2002-06-01 Thread James A Morrison


 Hey,

  I tried to compile the Hurd, and it failed on libiohelp.  I can't remember
the error message, but here is the fix.  It wanted the declarations before
the definitions of the functions.

James A. Morrison


2002-06-01  James A. Morrison  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* shared.c: Move function declarations ahead of the functions
definitions.

Index: shared.c
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/hurd/hurd/libiohelp/shared.c,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 shared.c
--- shared.c18 Nov 1996 23:48:14 -  1.1
+++ shared.c1 Jun 2002 17:01:13 -
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 /* Default functions
-   Copyright (C) 1996 Free Software Foundation
+   Copyright (C) 1996,2002 Free Software Foundation
 
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as
@@ -19,6 +19,10 @@
 #include "iohelp.h"
 
 /* These definitions exist to satisfy the linker. */
+void
+iohelp_fetch_shared_data (void *foo) __attribute__ ((weak));
+void
+iohelp_put_shared_data (void *foo) __attribute__ ((weak));
 
 
 void
@@ -32,10 +36,3 @@
 {
   abort ();
 }
-
-
-void
-iohelp_fetch_shared_data (void *foo) __attribute__ ((weak));
-void
-iohelp_put_shared_data (void *foo) __attribute__ ((weak));
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Re: libiohelp

2002-06-01 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt

* James A Morrison writes:
>   I tried to compile the Hurd, and it failed on libiohelp.  I can't remember
> the error message, but here is the fix.  It wanted the declarations before
> the definitions of the functions.

Could you try to get the error message?  I don't think that this
should cause any errors.

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Re: vm_size_t is unsigned, so libps should use unsigned ints.

2002-06-01 Thread James Morrison


--- Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 08:22:12PM -0700, James Morrison wrote:
> >  Nothing else used ps_emit_nice_int.
> 
> Oh, right, I was confused.
> 
> >   I don't like this.  After looking at both sprint_frac_value and 
> > ps_emit_nice_int I think they should both use size_t's.
> 
> Yeah, seems so.  I will look again at it tomorrow.
> 
> Thanks,
> Marcus
> 

 I think there needs to be a new function ps_cmp_size_t.  But it would look
exactly like ps_cmp_float and ps_cmp_int.  The easiest way I can see to do
this is a macro

#define COMPARE (type) ps_cmp_type ...

 Will this work?


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tmpfs/dir.c:223

2002-06-01 Thread James Morrison

  Could someone please revert the changes made to tmpfs/dir.c:223.  Line 223
currently has a call to diskfs_lookup_cached with 3 arguments.


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Re: libiohelp

2002-06-01 Thread James Morrison


--- "Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * James A Morrison writes:
> >   I tried to compile the Hurd, and it failed on libiohelp.  I can't
> remember
> > the error message, but here is the fix.  It wanted the declarations before
> > the definitions of the functions.
> 
> Could you try to get the error message?  I don't think that this
> should cause any errors.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Alfred M. Szmidt

 gcc -O -Wall -g -O2  -I. -I../../libiohelp -I.. -I../.. -I../../include
-D_GNU_SOURCE -D_IO_MTSAFE_IO  -DHAVE_MIG_RETCODE=1 -DHAVE_GETGROUPLIST=1   -c
-o shared.o ../../libiohelp/shared.c
../../libiohelp/shared.c:26: weak declaration of `iohelp_fetch_shared_data'
must precede definition
../../libiohelp/shared.c:32: weak declaration of `iohelp_put_shared_data' must
precede definition
make: *** [shared.o] Error 1


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Re: tmpfs/dir.c:223

2002-06-01 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt

* James Morrison writes:
>   Could someone please revert the changes made to tmpfs/dir.c:223.  Line 223
> currently has a call to diskfs_lookup_cached with 3 arguments.

This was already reported [1] but not fixed probably due because of me
being unclear. :)

[1]: http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/bug-hurd/2002-May/008805.html

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should libstore be linked against libthreads.

2002-06-01 Thread James Morrison



  Hi,

   I was having trouble compiling storeinfo, storecat, and storeread.  I was
getting the following error:
jim@lazarus:~/cvs/hurd/build/utils$ make storecat
gcc -O
-Wl,-rpath-link=.:../libdiskfs/:../libfshelp/:../libftpconn/:../libhurdbugaddr/:../libihash/:../libiohelp/:../libnetfs/:../libpager/:../libpipe/:../libports/:../libps/:../libshouldbeinlibc/:../libstore/:../libthreads/:../libtrivfs/
-Wall -g -O2 -uargp_program_bug_address -o storecat \
  storecat.o \
  '-Wl,-(' ../libhurdbugaddr/libhurdbugaddr.so ../libstore/libstore.so
../libshouldbeinlibc/libshouldbeinlibc.so \
 \
  '-Wl,-)'   
../libstore/libstore.so: undefined reference to `cthread_stack_mask'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [storecat] Error 1

  I added threads to HURDLIBS in libstore/Makefile and this fixes the problem.
I don't know why this has shown up now, but I think libstore should be linked
to libthreads since gunzip, part, and unzipstore all include .


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Re: should libstore be linked against libthreads.

2002-06-01 Thread Roland McGrath

That was libthreads bugs I introduced recently while doing the merge there.
I've checked in the fixes to libthreads, and everything will be recompiled.

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Re: 16 bit UIDs

2002-06-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG

Wolfgang Jährling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One idea is just a straightforward file somewhere in the filesystem
> > that holds an index of inode numbers and UIDs.
> 
> Will we use 64-bit UIDs on 64-bit systems?  If so, we should use 64 bit
> wide UID fields on 32-bit machines as well, thus staying compatible,
> right?

The width has to be the same everywhere.  There *are* more people in
the world than fit in a 32-bit UID, but I'm not sure that's a factor.


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netfs part of a console server with server-client model

2002-06-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

Hi,

as discussed before, it is desirable to have a server-client model for the
console:

VISUAL DISPLAY I  \ /
VISUAL DISPLAY II  |   | TERM ON VIRTUAl CONSOLE I
... >  CONSOLE SERVER <  TERM ON VIRTUAL CONSOLE II
INPUT DEVICE I |   | ...
INPUT DEVICE II|   |
...   / \

The console server provides an abstract hardware console in the local
encoding to the term server on the one hand, and on the other hand it
provides two interfaces for user interaction:

1. The display interface, which is basically a map'able file which contains
   the text buffer and attribute (color, blinking, etc) matrix with the
   possibility for the user to receive asynchronous update information on
   the content.  This also includes bells and gimmicks like this.

2. The input interface, which allows a kbd driver, mouse gestures, voice
   recognition software etc to input keyboard and similar events into the
   console server.

This side of the interface will be UCS-4/UTF-8 based only.  It is expected
that usually, both parts are combined into a single program.  This program
also handles virtual console switching etc.  See past discussion for details
on what features this design makes possible.

Please see also past discussion about what difficulties are in the design of
the asynchronous update interface :)  I gave a huge list, and did not make
progress on that part yet.  I guess experimentation will help a lot.
(BTW, the Linux braille terminal driver polls the screen every so and so
often, because there are no file change notifications, we should be able to
do better than that).

What I attach to this mail is a file that incorporates some the virtual
console abstraction in console/console.c in the Hurd source tree, and new
parts which provide a netfs based filesystem that looks like this:

console:
drwxrwx---2 root root0  2. Jun 04:27 1/
drwxrwx---2 root root0  2. Jun 04:27 3/
drwxrwx---2 root root0  2. Jun 04:27 4/

1:
crw-rw1 root root0,  0  2. Jun 04:27 console
-rw-rw1 root root 2000  2. Jun 04:27 display

3:
crw-rw1 root root0,  0  2. Jun 04:27 console
-rw-rw1 root root 2000  2. Jun 04:27 display

4:
crw-rw1 root root0,  0  2. Jun 04:27 console
-rw-rw1 root root 2000  2. Jun 04:27 display


The idea is that here are three virtual consoles provided by the server,
with the IDs 1, 3 and 4.  The "console" node in each directory provided by
the server is for term, and the "display" node is for the display/input
driver (better names are welcome).  2000 is 80x25 and the default size of a
screen, this is just an example.

I am inclined to give all virtual consoles for one console the same size and
local encoding, but this is not terribly important.  Nothing of this is
set in stone, in particular the interface between the console server and the
display driver.

However, I think it might be a good idea to start with a simplicistic
interface based on existing RPCs, and work from there.  I think this is
better than putting a lot of work into getting the existing code base with
the old, monolithic design to make it functional.

I have found a good description of xkb, btw, and will go for that.  It just
needs some time, and it might be better to write a clean console server, and
a not-so-clean display and input driver so oskit-mach becomes usable, and
then go from there.

Anyway, the point of this mail is to put the netfs code into public.  This
is the first netfs based filesystem I wrote, and I took some of the code
from hostmux (found a bug in there, too).  The internals are like this:

Virtual consoles are created on the fly when looking up nodes in root.  This
is unproblematic, as only available consoles are listed in
netfs_get_dirents, and usually programs will work with that.  Probably some
parts of the virtual console should be allocated lazily, so you don't hit
the full cost just to look up a node you don't want.

A virtual console structure is also the place where created nodes are looked
up.  This safes the inode hash table.  For this to work, each node has to
keep a reference to the virtual console, and the virtual console have to
back reference to the node (but without acquiring a reference to it). 
netfs_node_norefs removes the back reference before releasing the ref to the
virtual console.  Locking is a bit peculiar, but not really difficult, as
the virtual console structure itself is fine-graded.  All this is exactly
how hostmux stores and references the node and hostname structures.

The code is tested and works as far as it is there.  It has one serious
limitation, and that is the lookup of .., which currently assumes a flat
hierarchy (only one level of subdirectories).  It doesn't integrate all
too much with the virtual console code, either, some comments show