[board-discuss] MC candidacy
Hi, I would like nominate myself as candidate to the Membership Committee. Full name: Jean-Baptiste Faure Email: jbfa...@libreoffice.org Corporate affiliation: independent Why: because the job must be done and I think I can help. In the OOo time I was the lead of the French Native-Lang project since 2008 and the lead of the FR QA-team. I am member of the Foundation since April 2011. Currently I am maintening the FR website, moderator of the FR mailing-lists and do bugs triaging. Best regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] A thank-you to our app-store publishers.
Le 11 juin 2022 17:53:17 GMT+02:00, Andreas Mantke a écrit : >Hi all, > >always the same not appropriate behavior: capture a thread with a new >subject. > >Am 10.06.22 um 11:51 schrieb Michael Meeks: >> Hi there, >> >> Paolo Vecchi wrote on 31.05.22 at 21:03: >>> TDF to publish LibreOffice in the app stores, especially Apple and >>> Microsoft. TDF will work to prepare LibreOffice for the app stores >>> as soon as possible >> >> As this era ends, I'd like to say how pleased we are at >> Collabora to have been able to lead here - to have fronted the >> significant initial investment needed to get LibreOffice into the Mac >> sandbox, and app-store and to have got it done. >> >> We made it easier for a large number of users to get >> LibreOffice. Later on we charged for the convenience and re-invested >> that into improving the Mac version up-stream, and also are pleased to > >this means that Collabora used money from the app store: > >a) to decide itself how and where to improve the source code for the Mac >version (independent from TDF [board / community]) > >b) to grow its staff and portray itself as the biggest service provider >for the office suite. > >The whole email looks like a laudatory for lifework, but this is only >framing. It should soften the real message and the frustration. > >> (...) >> >> If the TDF board want to have a bigger packaging team, so be >> it. Hopefully it will not negatively impact those who previously did >> the work. >> >> I am somewhat curious as to the budget impact here, and the >> real scope of "app-store". In particularly how much time is this >> expected to take away from areas such as CTL/RTL, CJK as well as other >> things that we are hoping to address with targeted developers ? >It looks like that there is no expectation that TDF in-house developers >and staff will be able to work on source code beyond app-store needs. >And the real message is: bad board decision, let the situation as it is now. > >And in the end it is a hidden complain about the removal of a source of >income for companies. > >But the whole process with the app-store management was based on trust >between TDF and the companies. And since the process about LOOL and the >fork this trust was broken. > >It should be obvious now that such decisions could lead to 'unexpected' >(for the doer) consequences in other areas. > >Regards, >Andreas > >-- >## Free Software Advocate >## Plone add-on developer >## My blog: http://www.amantke.de/blog > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org >Problems? >https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ >Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > Hi Andreas, Please, could you be positive from time to time ? Your mails are very tiring. Best regards JBF -- Seuls les formats ouverts garantissent la pérennité de vos documents.
Re: [board-discuss] A thank-you to our app-store publishers.
Le 10 juin 2022 11:51:49 GMT+02:00, Michael Meeks a écrit : >Hi there, > >Paolo Vecchi wrote on 31.05.22 at 21:03: >> TDF to publish LibreOffice in the app stores, especially Apple and >> Microsoft. TDF will work to prepare LibreOffice for the app stores >> as soon as possible > > As this era ends, I'd like to say how pleased we are at >Collabora to have been able to lead here - to have fronted the >significant initial investment needed to get LibreOffice into the Mac >sandbox, and app-store and to have got it done. > > We made it easier for a large number of users to get >LibreOffice. Later on we charged for the convenience and re-invested >that into improving the Mac version up-stream, and also are pleased to >have donated a significant sum to TDF. We've also explored the >market-demand-curve for convenience, updated the board from time to >time & will of course complete that (as time permits) when the >situation settles. > > I'd like to thank many for their great work here: Tor >Lillqvist in particular, but also Tomaz Vajngerl, Lubos Lunak, Andras >Timar & Miklos Vajna. > > It is also important to give credit and thanks to CIB & >Allotropia for their work on getting a high quality LibreOffice into >the Windows app-store to make it more accessible to people too. I'm >not sure that I have the exact list right here but I'd like to call >out Marina Latini, Vasily Melenchuk, Samuel Mehrbrodt and Thorsten >Behrens for making the goodness happen. > > Looking back at this app-store journey, we have a debt of >gratitude particularly to Simon Phipps, Nicholas Christener, Uwe >Altmann and Marina Latini for their hard work around building better >ways to structure the app-store provision. There are many views on >that - but it is unarguable that they put in a lot of hard work and >love to try to improve LibreOffice which is much appreciated. > > I'd like also to give credit to the PortableApps team for >making LibreOffice available in their app-store. They have done great >work promoting us from early in the LibreOffice project: >https://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable-versions/ > >Paolo Vecchi wrote on 31.05.22 at 21:03: >> TDF to publish LibreOffice in the app stores ... > > Which leads us to other app-stores. Traditionally packaging >has been a great provider of diversity and excellence around >contribution to LibreOffice - starting IIRC with Frederic Crozat's >amazing work to make OpenOffice.org into the first Mandrake Linux >packages waaay back in the day - which much of our Linux packaging is >ultimately built on. > > Anyhow - it was wonderful to have lots of work from Stephan >Bergman and Caolan McNamara at RedHat with help from Robert McQueen at >Endless to get LibreOffice into: https://flathub.org/ "Flathub - An >app store and build service for Linux". As always getting LibreOffice >into a different kind of sand-box sounds trivial, and yet often takes >quite some work. > > Then of course we have the team started by Bjoern Michaelsen >who massaged LibreOffice into the nattily named "Snap Store" - >https://snapcraft.io "the app store for Linux with an audience of >millions." thanks for making that happen Bjoern! And thanks too to >Olivier Tilloy, Heather Ellsworth, Rico Tzschichholz, Marcus Tomlinson >for their patient tending and improvement of the snap app! > > I should mention William Gathoye for his great work making >LibreOffice available in Chocolatey - though at some stage I start to >get fuzzy as to what is, and is not an app-store. Going wider we've >been blessed by many sympathizers mutually promoting LibreOffice and >their brands in software catalogs left and right. > > Anyhow. Lots of good work, much of it already working and >build-able on without immediate bit-rot I hope. > > If the TDF board want to have a bigger packaging team, so be >it. Hopefully it will not negatively impact those who previously did >the work. > > I am somewhat curious as to the budget impact here, and the >real scope of "app-store". In particularly how much time is this >expected to take away from areas such as CTL/RTL, CJK as well as other >things that we are hoping to address with targeted developers ? > > I'm also curious if the plan is for TDF to sell LibreOffice >(in app-stores or elsewhere) and to become a for-pay vendor. Presumably >there is no need to decide immediately on that but I look forward to >the conclusions and rationale over the next month. > > Apologies to those that my memory inevitably missed out, and >go LibreOffice! > > All the best, > > Michael. > >-- >michael.me...@collabora.com <><, GM Collabora Productivity >Hangout: mejme...@gmail.com, Skype: mmeeks >(M) +44 7795 666 147 - timezone usually UK / Europe > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org >Problems? >https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting gu
Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] New proposal for hiring in-house developers.
Hi Thorsten, If the ESC is an official TDF committee, where are its statutes, its functioning rules and the rules of its members designation ? If it is an official TDF committee, why its mailing list is not hosted by TDF ? Best regards JBF Le 02/12/2022 à 13:51, Thorsten Behrens a écrit : Dear all, sophi wrote: Le 02/12/2022 à 12:10, Michael Stahl a écrit : how is this different from TDF employees Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Olivier, Stéphane, Sophie, and Xisco, who already consult weekly with the ESC? Maybe this is subtle but the term "oversee" for me means to supervise or control. Indeed, the ESC should be supervising the technical direction of the work. That is intended, and makes a ton of sense (since it's an official TDF committee, with board-appointed members, this is not in any way something 'external' to TDF). Best, -- Thorsten -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
