Re: Reverse lookups not working when Internet connection failed.

2022-11-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 05.11.22 09:58, David Alexandre M. de Carvalho via bind-users wrote:

Thank you all for the replies.
For what I understand after reading your replies (I might be wrong :) ), 
reverse lookups fail when I have no outgoing
connection because some caching or or transfer is needed  from 
66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. , wich I don't control. This
is divided in several networks, 2 of them under my control.


correct. Admin of that zone is supposed to:

1.  create proper CNAME records:

0.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. CNAME 0.0-28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. 
...

15.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. CNAME 15.0-28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.

2. delegate 0-28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. to your servers, make their 
servers secondary for this zone (optional)


3. allow your servers to to fetch 66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.

step 1. creates proper aliases
step 2. creates working delegation
step 3. allows you to see reverse records when your connection is down.

alternatively they can choose to 0/28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. or 
0-15.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.
instead of 0-28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.

I'll have to read more carefully your suggestions to see if I find an 
alternative way to achieve this only by modifying my zone files, without 
messing up my current setup.  I'll let you know how it goes.



On 11/4/22 2:07 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:

Any ISP that offers these delegations should be allowing their
customers to transfer the zone that contains the CNAMEs for the
customer address space by default.


I've had enough trouble getting ISPs to support 2317 delegation period.
I think that asking them to allow me to do a zone transfer would have
been a hard no.

I certainly don't think this would be allowed /by/ /default/.

I just checked and § 5.1 of RFC 2317 mentioned having the parent do a
secondary zone transfer of the child zone.  But I don't see any mention
of the child doing a secondary zone transfer of the parent zone.

I think that would be a good idea.

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Unexpected extra care needed for building BIND 9.18.8

2022-11-06 Thread Niall O'Reilly

Building BIND 9.18.8 from source seems to need

./configure; LD_RUN_PATH=/usr/local/lib make; sudo make install

instead of the traditional

./configure; make; sudo make install

Using the traditional recipe, I obtained the run-time error message

named: error while loading shared libraries: libisc-9.18.8.so: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory


Is this as intended?

I would have expected that ./configure (or the machinery
it invokes) would take care of propagating ${exec_prefix}/lib
to LD_RUN_PATH at the relevant stage.

/Niall
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Re: Unexpected extra care needed for building BIND 9.18.8

2022-11-06 Thread Ondřej Surý
> Is this as intended?

Nope, that’s local to your system. Hard to tell what’s wrong from just a single 
message, but either there’s cruft somewhere in the path with more priority or 
your dynamic linker configuration is wrong. Inspecting the binary that’s 
failing with `libtool --mode=execute ldd` might give you some hints.

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> On 6. 11. 2022, at 16:27, Niall O'Reilly  wrote:
> 
> Building BIND 9.18.8 from source seems to need
> 
> ./configure; LD_RUN_PATH=/usr/local/lib make; sudo make install
> 
> instead of the traditional
> 
> ./configure; make; sudo make install
> 
> Using the traditional recipe, I obtained the run-time error message
> 
> named: error while loading shared libraries: libisc-9.18.8.so: cannot open 
> shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Is this as intended?
> 
> I would have expected that ./configure (or the machinery
> it invokes) would take care of propagating ${exec_prefix}/lib
> to LD_RUN_PATH at the relevant stage.
> 
> /Niall
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Re: Reverse lookups not working when Internet connection failed.

2022-11-06 Thread Carl Byington via bind-users
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On Sun, 2022-11-06 at 14:39 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> alternatively they can choose to 0/28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. or
> 0-15.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.
> instead of 0-28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.

or use $clientname.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. as the intermediate zone
which has a slight advantage when the same client has multiple disjoint
parts of the same /24.


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Re: Reverse lookups not working when Internet connection failed.

2022-11-06 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users

On 11/6/22 11:12 AM, Carl Byington via bind-users wrote:
or use $clientname.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. as the intermediate zone 
which has a slight advantage when the same client has multiple disjoint 
parts of the same /24.


I find that $CLIENTNAME or some other stand in for the client is a 
potential for information lek.


There is nothing inherent in the CNAME to non-identifying RNAMEs that 
leaks any client identifying information.


Conversely the client is in charge of what information they put in the 
sub-zone, so it's not the ISP leaking client identifying information.




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Re: Reverse lookups not working when Internet connection failed.

2022-11-06 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users

On 11/6/22 6:39 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

3. allow your servers to to fetch 66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.


Is this 3rd step documented somewhere?

I searched for it in RFC 2317 but didn't find it.  Maybe I over looked it.

alternatively they can choose to 0/28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa. or 
0-15.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.  instead of 0-28.66.136.193.in-addr.arpa.


N.B. I've had some problems with the forward slash character "/" in 
domain names multiple times in the past.  I'd stick with the hyphen "-" 
for compatibility.




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