Re: MAcOS X 10.9 upgrade removes BIND

2013-10-30 Thread Carsten Strotmann
Hi Sean,

Sean Channel  writes:
>
> Thanks for the M&M package, this is fantastic!  On the critical side,
> the package BOM only lists an extinct tarball instead of the actual
> files and directories in the package. Just a nit pick, apologies:

yes, that is a historical artifact from the time where our installers
detected PPC vs. Intel machines and installed an optimized (not
fat-binary) for BIND.

I need to redesign the installer now that PPC is not so much requested
anymore, it is on my to-do list.

-- Carsten
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Re: use bind 9.8 as caching server and authoritative nameserver

2013-10-30 Thread Niall O'Reilly

On 28 Oct 2013, at 13:10, bind-ch...@telenet.be wrote:

> Recently our government obligated all ISP's to block access to child-porn, 
> illegal betting sites, illegal file share sites etc...
> I have been asked now to implement this on our caching DNS servers (serve a 
> custom zone to all of our customers that points to an IP from the government 
> that hosts a block-page)

You probably understand that this approach is of limited effectiveness,
and has arguably significant disadvantages.

It may be of interest for you to read the report mentioned at either of
the following URIs (in French, English respectively).

http://www.afnic.fr/fr/l-afnic-en-bref/actualites/actualites-generales/6573/show/le-conseil-scientifique-de-l-afnic-partage-sur-le-filtrage-internet-par-dns.html
http://www.afnic.fr/en/about-afnic/news/general-news/6584/show/the-afnic-scientific-council-shares-its-report-on-dns-based-internet-filtering.html


Best regards,

Niall O'Reilly
Member of AFNIC's Conseil Scientifique

  PS.   I wan't a significant contributor to this report.  
Credit for that belongs to the colleagues who did the work. /Niall

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intermittent resolution

2013-10-30 Thread Con Wieland
I recently upgraded to version: 9.8.6. I am having trouble resolving a .gov 
site. When I reload the name server it will resolve fine for a while then after 
an hour or two I will get a server fail. I can perform a dig +trace and resolve 
but dig will fail. If I do an rndc reload it will work for some period of time 
again.  I suspect negative caching but the site has a the ttl set to 60 so I 
would expect it to resolve again but it doesn't until a reload is preformed,  
other sites seem to be effected but I don't know. This is a high visibility 
site. The only configuration change has been to add RPZ which seems to be 
working fine. 

Other name servers seem to be unaffected. What am I missing? What else can I 
check? I can provide more details if it would be helpful.

Con Wieland
Office of Information Technology
University of California at Irvine
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Re: intermittent resolution

2013-10-30 Thread Alan Clegg

On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Con Wieland  wrote:

> I recently upgraded to version: 9.8.6. I am having trouble resolving a .gov 
> site. When I reload the name server it will resolve fine for a while then 
> after an hour or two I will get a server fail. I can perform a dig +trace and 
> resolve but dig will fail. If I do an rndc reload it will work for some 
> period of time again.  I suspect negative caching but the site has a the ttl 
> set to 60 so I would expect it to resolve again but it doesn't until a reload 
> is preformed,  other sites seem to be effected but I don't know. This is a 
> high visibility site. The only configuration change has been to add RPZ which 
> seems to be working fine. 
> 
> Other name servers seem to be unaffected. What am I missing? What else can I 
> check? I can provide more details if it would be helpful.

Can you tell us _what_ .gov site?   Do you see the same problem with 9.9.4?  

AlanC
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Re: intermittent resolution

2013-10-30 Thread Con Wieland
The site I am having issues with are a half a dozen sites at noaa.gov. No I 
have not tried 9.9.4 when I upgraded 9.8.6 was listed as the current stable 
version so I went with that.

con

On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Alan Clegg  wrote:

> 
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Con Wieland  wrote:
> 
>> I recently upgraded to version: 9.8.6. I am having trouble resolving a .gov 
>> site. When I reload the name server it will resolve fine for a while then 
>> after an hour or two I will get a server fail. I can perform a dig +trace 
>> and resolve but dig will fail. If I do an rndc reload it will work for some 
>> period of time again.  I suspect negative caching but the site has a the ttl 
>> set to 60 so I would expect it to resolve again but it doesn't until a 
>> reload is preformed,  other sites seem to be effected but I don't know. This 
>> is a high visibility site. The only configuration change has been to add RPZ 
>> which seems to be working fine. 
>> 
>> Other name servers seem to be unaffected. What am I missing? What else can I 
>> check? I can provide more details if it would be helpful.
> 
> Can you tell us _what_ .gov site?   Do you see the same problem with 9.9.4?  
> 
> AlanC
> -- 
> Alan Clegg | +1-919-355-8851 | a...@clegg.com
> 

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RE: [External] Re: intermittent resolution

2013-10-30 Thread Samp, Daniel [USA]
In the past when I've had issues with certain .gov sites (e.g. noaa.gov, 
nih.gov, ssa.gov) it was due to application based filtering (layer 4).  For 
some reason the responses from these sites are more often than not fragmented 
and if you have something doing filtering based on ports it may not be 
delivering the follow-up fragments because they do not have the tcp headers.  
Do a tcpdump of your DNS traffic from noaa.gov and check to see if reponses are 
being fragmented and whether you are receiving all of the fragments.  We had to 
set edns-udp-size to 512 as a workaround until we could identify the 
problematic piece of hardware.

Since the only thing you changed was BIND versions, this may have nothing to do 
with your issue, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
 
-Dan


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[bind-users-bounces+samp_daniel=bah@lists.isc.org] on behalf of Con Wieland 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:28 PM
To: BIND List
Subject: [External]  Re: intermittent resolution

The site I am having issues with are a half a dozen sites at noaa.gov. No I 
have not tried 9.9.4 when I upgraded 9.8.6 was listed as the current stable 
version so I went with that.

con

On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Alan Clegg  wrote:

>
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Con Wieland  wrote:
>
>> I recently upgraded to version: 9.8.6. I am having trouble resolving a .gov 
>> site. When I reload the name server it will resolve fine for a while then 
>> after an hour or two I will get a server fail. I can perform a dig +trace 
>> and resolve but dig will fail. If I do an rndc reload it will work for some 
>> period of time again.  I suspect negative caching but the site has a the ttl 
>> set to 60 so I would expect it to resolve again but it doesn't until a 
>> reload is preformed,  other sites seem to be effected but I don't know. This 
>> is a high visibility site. The only configuration change has been to add RPZ 
>> which seems to be working fine.
>>
>> Other name servers seem to be unaffected. What am I missing? What else can I 
>> check? I can provide more details if it would be helpful.
>
> Can you tell us _what_ .gov site?   Do you see the same problem with 9.9.4?
>
> AlanC
> --
> Alan Clegg | +1-919-355-8851 | a...@clegg.com
>

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Re: [External] Re: intermittent resolution

2013-10-30 Thread Barry Margolin
In article ,
 "Samp, Daniel [USA]"  wrote:

> In the past when I've had issues with certain .gov sites (e.g. noaa.gov, 
> nih.gov, ssa.gov) it was due to application based filtering (layer 4).  For 
> some reason the responses from these sites are more often than not fragmented 
> and if you have something doing filtering based on ports it may not be 
> delivering the follow-up fragments because they do not have the tcp headers.  
> Do a tcpdump of your DNS traffic from noaa.gov and check to see if reponses 
> are being fragmented and whether you are receiving all of the fragments.  We 
> had to set edns-udp-size to 512 as a workaround until we could identify the 
> problematic piece of hardware.
> 
> Since the only thing you changed was BIND versions, this may have nothing to 
> do with your issue, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

.gov was a relatively early adopted of DNSSEC -- it was mandated for all 
agencies about 3 years ago, I think.  But there were lots of teething 
pains, which caused frequent outages of some domains. And DNSSEC usually 
results in large responses, so if your firewall doesn't deal well with 
EDNS0, you would have problems like that.

-- 
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
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Re: intermittent resolution

2013-10-30 Thread Mark Andrews

IF YOU WANT HELP SPECIFY THE FAILING DOMAIN NAME.  YES I AM SHOUTING

This report is like saying you have a problem with a car manufacture by GM.

Mark

In message , Con Wieland writes:
> I recently upgraded to version: 9.8.6. I am having trouble resolving a .gov s
> ite. When I reload the name server it will resolve fine for a while then afte
> r an hour or two I will get a server fail. I can perform a dig +trace and res
> olve but dig will fail. If I do an rndc reload it will work for some period o
> f time again.  I suspect negative caching but the site has a the ttl set to 6
> 0 so I would expect it to resolve again but it doesn't until a reload is pref
> ormed,  other sites seem to be effected but I don't know. This is a high visi
> bility site. The only configuration change has been to add RPZ which seems to
>  be working fine. 
> 
> Other name servers seem to be unaffected. What am I missing? What else can I 
> check? I can provide more details if it would be helpful.
> 
> Con Wieland
> Office of Information Technology
> University of California at Irvine
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