check Bind

2013-08-27 Thread Nidal Shater
Hi I'm using centos-6.3 and I install bind9 on it by using (./configre, make, 
make install) 

How can I test if Bind is installed correctly ( I tried "service named status" 
but I received the error message "named :unrecognized")

Nidal
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Re: check Bind

2013-08-27 Thread Alan Clegg

On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Nidal Shater  wrote:

> Hi I'm using centos-6.3 and I install bind9 on it by using (./configre, make, 
> make install) 
> 
> How can I test if Bind is installed correctly ( I tried "service named 
> status" but I received the error message "named :unrecognized")

Installing from source does not include "startup" scripts.  Try "named -g" to 
get output to the current TTY, and once it is working, "named".

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Re: check Bind

2013-08-27 Thread Alan Clegg

On Aug 27, 2013, at 8:37 AM, Nidal Shater  wrote:

> I have tried "named -g " but an I have received the error message
> " loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf'
>  /etc/named.conf:63: open: /etc/named.rfc1912.zones: file not found
>  loading configuration: file not found
> "
> how can I solve this ?

I'd start by creating the file that it says is missing.  Or deleting the config 
file and starting off from what I'm comfortable/familiar with.

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/etc/named.conf won't be installed !!

2013-08-27 Thread Nidal Shater
hi 
when I install BIND,,,BIND won't install the /etc/named.conf file why ??? I 
think bind has problems with centos6.3 

could anybody figure it out 

PS: I use (./configure ,make, make install ) to install it 


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Re: check Bind

2013-08-27 Thread Alan Clegg

On Aug 27, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Nidal Shater  wrote:

> why the file named.conf didn't indtalled in /etc,,, is there something wrong 
> with BIND9 ,,did you have any link that have a trusted bind9 for centos6.3 
> 
> AND thanks.

BIND does not install configuration files when you do an install from source.  
This is done on purpose, as correct configuration is more complex than "here's 
something that might work".

Nothing is "wrong" with BIND.

And you are welcome.  8-)

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Re: /etc/named.conf won't be installed !!

2013-08-27 Thread Steven Carr
This was answered in the other thread, you need to create your own
config file when installing from source.

Steve


On 27 August 2013 17:02, Nidal Shater  wrote:
> hi
> when I install BIND,,,BIND won't install the /etc/named.conf file why ??? I
> think bind has problems with centos6.3
>
> could anybody figure it out
>
> PS: I use (./configure ,make, make install ) to install it
>
>
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Re: /etc/named.conf won't be installed !!

2013-08-27 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
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From: Nidal Shater 
Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:02 PM
To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" 
Subject: /etc/named.conf won't be installed !!

>hi 
>when I install BIND,,,BIND won't install the /etc/named.conf file why ???
>I think bind has problems with centos6.3
>could anybody figure it out
>PS: I use (./configure ,make, make install ) to install it

Others pointed out it's normal for source install, refer to this as a
reference:

http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bind-template.html

Then check the latest ARM for other options you might need:

https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00845/0/BIND-9.9-Administrator-Reference-Manu
al-ARM.html

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redirecting root hints to fake internal root server

2013-08-27 Thread Colin Harvey
 
My environment is firewalled from the real world.  For queries on zones to 
which I'm not master, I want to recurse to a corporate server.  nslookup 
some.internal.hostname.com internal.corporate.server works fine.  Setting "." 
to use this internal server in the root.hints file does not.  In fact I do not 
even see my system trying to recurse.  (I'm looking at network traffic with a 
sniffer.)
 
My root.hints:
 
.600INNSinternal.corporate.server.
internal.corporate.server.600INA192.168.1.1
 
 
Alternatively I've setup a forwarding zone in named.conf to query 192.168.1.1 
for 'internal.hostname.com'.  When monitoring the network for udp data over 
port 53, I'm not even seeing the query being forwarded.  Why?
 
 
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Re: redirecting root hints to fake internal root server

2013-08-27 Thread WBrown
From: Colin Harvey 
> My environment is firewalled from the real world.  For queries on 
> zones to which I'm not master, I want to recurse to a corporate 
> server.  nslookup some.internal.hostname.com 
> internal.corporate.server works fine.  Setting "." to use this 
> internal server in the root.hints file does not.  In fact I do not 
> even see my system trying to recurse.  (I'm looking at network 
> traffic with a sniffer.)
> 
> My root.hints:
> 
> .600INNSinternal.corporate.server.
> internal.corporate.server.600INA192.168.1.1
> 
> 
> Alternatively I've setup a forwarding zone in named.conf to query 
> 192.168.1.1 for 'internal.hostname.com'.  When monitoring the 
> network for udp data over port 53, I'm not even seeing the query 
> being forwarded.  Why?

Add these lines to your options section:

forward only;
forwarders {192.168.1.1;};

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Re: redirecting root hints to fake internal root server

2013-08-27 Thread Colin Harvey
Thanks.  But I already have that option for the internal.hostname.com zone.  
Still not seeing traffic going to 192.168.1.1.
 
Colin

From: "wbr...@e1b.org" 
To: Colin Harvey  
Cc: bind users ; 
bind-users-bounces+wbrown=e1b@lists.isc.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: redirecting root hints to fake internal root server


From: Colin Harvey 
> My environment is firewalled from the real world.  For queries on 
> zones to which I'm not master, I want to recurse to a corporate 
> server.  nslookup some.internal.hostname.com 
> internal.corporate.server works fine.  Setting "." to use this 
> internal server in the root.hints file does not.  In fact I do not 
> even see my system trying to recurse.  (I'm looking at network 
> traffic with a sniffer.)
> 
> My root.hints:
> 
> .    600    IN    NS    internal.corporate.server.
> internal.corporate.server.    600    IN    A    192.168.1.1
> 
> 
> Alternatively I've setup a forwarding zone in named.conf to query 
> 192.168.1.1 for 'internal.hostname.com'.  When monitoring the 
> network for udp data over port 53, I'm not even seeing the query 
> being forwarded.  Why?

Add these lines to your options section:

        forward only;
        forwarders {192.168.1.1;};

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Re: check Bind

2013-08-27 Thread Alan Clegg

On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Nidal Shater  wrote:

> I create named.conf by my self 
> 
> and then when I type "named -g "
> 
> it tolds me that "named.ca" :not found ,,, what that means ??

It means you typed in a sample without knowing what it does.  I'll take a wild 
guess and say that it's supposed to contain root hints, but I don't know.

I would recommend that you may want to read some of the documents presented 
earlier:

  Pro DNS and BIND by Ron Atchison - 
http://www.amazon.com/Pro-DNS-BIND-Ron-Aitchison/dp/1590594940

and

  DNS and BIND by Cricket Liu - 
http://www.amazon.com/DNS-BIND-5th-Cricket-Liu/dp/0596100574

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Re: redirecting root hints to fake internal root server

2013-08-27 Thread Colin Harvey
 
dig +trace host.internal.hostname.com responds with a list of authoritative 
nameservers for the zone and the error "dig: couldn't get address for 
ns1.corporate.hostname.com" where the error cycles through all four of the 
authoritative nameservers.
 
Also ns1.corporate.hostname.com is not 192.168.1.1.
 
Colin
 

From: Colin Harvey 
To: "wbr...@e1b.org"  
Cc: "bind-users-bounces+wbrown=e1b@lists.isc.org" 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: redirecting root hints to fake internal root server



Thanks.  But I already have that option for the internal.hostname.com zone.  
Still not seeing traffic going to 192.168.1.1.
 
Colin

From: "wbr...@e1b.org" 
To: Colin Harvey  
Cc: bind users ; 
bind-users-bounces+wbrown=e1b@lists.isc.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: redirecting root hints to fake internal root server


From: Colin Harvey 
> My environment is firewalled from the real world.  For queries on 
> zones to which I'm not master, I want to recurse to a corporate 
> server.  nslookup some.internal.hostname.com 
> internal.corporate.server works fine.  Setting "." to use this 
> internal server in the root.hints file does not.  In fact I do not 
> even see my system trying to recurse.  (I'm looking at network 
> traffic with a sniffer.)
> 
> My root.hints:
> 
> .    600    IN    NS    internal.corporate.server.
> internal.corporate.server.    600    IN    A    192.168.1.1
> 
> 
> Alternatively I've setup a forwarding zone in named.conf to query 
> 192.168.1.1 for 'internal.hostname.com'.  When monitoring the 
> network for udp data over port 53, I'm not even seeing the query 
> being forwarded.  Why?

Add these lines to your options section:

        forward only;
        forwarders {192.168.1.1;};

see 
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chroot /var/run permissions

2013-08-27 Thread johnh
Greetings,

I'm upgrading my bind installation on one of my hosts, and everything 
seems to be working properly although I'm getting a permissions 
error/warning in the log on startup:

Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Required root permissions to open 
'/var/run/named.pid'.
Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Please check file and directory 
permissions or reconfigure the filename.
Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Required root permissions to open 
'/var/run/named/session.key'.
Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Please check file and directory 
permissions or reconfigure the filename.
Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: command channel listening on 
127.0.0.1#953
Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: the working directory is not 
writable
Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: all zones loaded

This is in a chroot environment, and I'm starting a static-linked copy of 
named like this: /var/named/usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u named.

The permissions on the tree in questions are:

/var/named/var:

drwxrwx---  3 root  named  512 Aug 27 14:25 run

/var/named/var/run:

drwxrwx---  2 root  named  512 Aug 27 14:25 named

After named starts, it creates /var/named/var/run/named.pid and 
/var/named/var/run/named/session.key with the following permissions:

-rw-r--r--  1 root  named6 Aug 27 14:35 named.pid

-rw---  1 root  named  102 Aug 27 14:35 session.key

What I am I missing here?  /var/named/var/run and /var/named/var/run/named 
have group write permissions, so it seems it *shouldn't* be complaining, 
and the resulting files should've been owned by named, shouldn't they?

Thanks,

-John

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Re: /etc/named.conf won't be installed !!

2013-08-27 Thread Carl Byington
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On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 16:02 +, Nidal Shater wrote:

> when I install BIND,,,BIND won't install the /etc/named.conf file why
> ??? I think bind has problems with centos6.3

You might want to try an RPM install:

http://www.five-ten-sg.com/mapper/bind


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Re: redirecting root hints to fake internal root server

2013-08-27 Thread Kevin Darcy

On 8/27/2013 1:07 PM, Colin Harvey wrote:
My environment is firewalled from the real world.  For queries on 
zones to which I'm not master, I want to recurse to a corporate 
server.  nslookup some.internal.hostname.com 
internal.corporate.server works fine.
nslookup is a terrible DNS troubleshooting tool. Try dig. And to mimic 
how your nameserver would talk to the other nameserver, use the options 
+norec and +bufsiz=4096 (unless you've changed your EDNS0 buffer size 
from the default, in which case, plug in that value instead).


Setting "." to use this internal server in the root.hints file does 
not.  In fact I do not even see my system trying to recurse.  (I'm 
looking at network traffic with a sniffer.)

My root.hints:
.600INNSinternal.corporate.server.
internal.corporate.server.600INA192.168.1.1

Do you have recursion enabled?
Alternatively I've setup a forwarding zone in named.conf to query 
192.168.1.1 for 'internal.hostname.com'.
Ugh, don't do that. Forwarding is for getting around network 
restrictions or limitations, and you haven't (so far) indicated that you 
have any of those to deal with.


- Kevin

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Re: chroot /var/run permissions

2013-08-27 Thread Mark Andrews

/var/run/named.pid and /var/run/named/session.key need to be writable
by named.  Additionally their parent directories need to be writable
by named so the files can be removed on shutdown.  The files are
not writable by named.

-rw-r--r--  1 root  named6 Aug 27 14:35 named.pid
-rw---  1 root  named  102 Aug 27 14:35 session.key

Named attempts to write these files as user named and if that fails
it switches user back to root and re-attempts to write these files.
If it succeeds with the second attempt you get the error messages
below.

Once named has opened the sockets it permanently switches to the
user named.

Mark

In message , jo...@primebuchholz.com writes:
> Greetings,
> 
> I'm upgrading my bind installation on one of my hosts, and everything 
> seems to be working properly although I'm getting a permissions 
> error/warning in the log on startup:
> 
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Required root permissions to open 
> '/var/run/named.pid'.
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Please check file and directory 
> permissions or reconfigure the filename.
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Required root permissions to open 
> '/var/run/named/session.key'.
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Please check file and directory 
> permissions or reconfigure the filename.
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: command channel listening on 
> 127.0.0.1#953
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: the working directory is not 
> writable
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: all zones loaded
> 
> This is in a chroot environment, and I'm starting a static-linked copy of 
> named like this: /var/named/usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u named.
> 
> The permissions on the tree in questions are:
> 
> /var/named/var:
> 
> drwxrwx---  3 root  named  512 Aug 27 14:25 run
> 
> /var/named/var/run:
> 
> drwxrwx---  2 root  named  512 Aug 27 14:25 named
> 
> After named starts, it creates /var/named/var/run/named.pid and 
> /var/named/var/run/named/session.key with the following permissions:
> 
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  named6 Aug 27 14:35 named.pid
> 
> -rw---  1 root  named  102 Aug 27 14:35 session.key
> 
> What I am I missing here?  /var/named/var/run and /var/named/var/run/named 
> have group write permissions, so it seems it *shouldn't* be complaining, 
> and the resulting files should've been owned by named, shouldn't they?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -John
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Re: chroot /var/run permissions

2013-08-27 Thread Edward DeLargy
John,
You should see if your full root on the box what permissions named
has as a group and what the (bind/named) user has. If your running some
restricting permissions via the sudoers you may need to lighten up to 775
from the chroot'd directory down giving the ownership the named group and
named user. If the process does start and the permissions aren't right you
will run into more errors like zone transfer fails and other things that
require the process group and user to right into the directories where the
zone files are stored. Just a thought but you may want to look into it.

Regards,
Ed



On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM,  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I'm upgrading my bind installation on one of my hosts, and everything
> seems to be working properly although I'm getting a permissions
> error/warning in the log on startup:
>
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Required root permissions to open
> '/var/run/named.pid'.
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Please check file and directory
> permissions or reconfigure the filename.
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Required root permissions to open
> '/var/run/named/session.key'.
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: Please check file and directory
> permissions or reconfigure the filename.
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: command channel listening on
> 127.0.0.1#953
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: the working directory is not
> writable
> Aug 27 14:24:45 flotsam named[13746]: all zones loaded
>
> This is in a chroot environment, and I'm starting a static-linked copy of
> named like this: /var/named/usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u named.
>
> The permissions on the tree in questions are:
>
> /var/named/var:
>
> drwxrwx---  3 root  named  512 Aug 27 14:25 run
>
> /var/named/var/run:
>
> drwxrwx---  2 root  named  512 Aug 27 14:25 named
>
> After named starts, it creates /var/named/var/run/named.pid and
> /var/named/var/run/named/session.key with the following permissions:
>
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  named6 Aug 27 14:35 named.pid
>
> -rw---  1 root  named  102 Aug 27 14:35 session.key
>
> What I am I missing here?  /var/named/var/run and /var/named/var/run/named
> have group write permissions, so it seems it *shouldn't* be complaining,
> and the resulting files should've been owned by named, shouldn't they?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -John
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