Re: State diagram for DNSsec key lifecycle

2012-02-10 Thread Niall O'Reilly

On 10 Feb 2012, at 00:57, Mark Andrews wrote:

> I recommend "activate" + "publish" at the same time.

Mark,

I'ld appreciate knowing your reasoning for preferring this
approach over publication for later activation.

I suspect I might not be alone.  8-)


Best regards,
Niall O'Reilly

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Re: State diagram for DNSsec key lifecycle

2012-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews

In message <92dd72be-8330-490d-8bf9-7b023fdab...@ucd.ie>, Niall O'Reilly writes
:
> 
> On 10 Feb 2012, at 00:57, Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> > I recommend "activate" + "publish" at the same time.
> 
>   Mark,
> 
>   I'ld appreciate knowing your reasoning for preferring this
>   approach over publication for later activation.
> 
>   I suspect I might not be alone.  8-)

You are going from unsigned to signed.  There is no benefit in publishing,
waiting then activating.

>   Best regards,
>   Niall O'Reilly
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Mark Andrews, ISC
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Re: DNSSEC and CVE-2012-1033 (Ghost domain names)

2012-02-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:38:42PM -0800,
 Casey Deccio  wrote 
 a message of 67 lines which said:

> Actually, it should, in the spirit of DNSSEC. 

OK, so there is nothing that can be done at the registry level. Only
the resolver admin can use DNSSEC to solve the ghost domain problem,
by enabling DNSSEC validation. Correct?
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RE: State diagram for DNSsec key lifecycle

2012-02-10 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
>>> I recommend "activate" + "publish" at the same time.
>> I'd appreciate knowing your reasoning for preferring this
> You are going from unsigned to signed.  There is no benefit in publishing, 
> waiting then activating.

The IETF draft "DNSSEC Key Timing Considerations" 
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-key-timing-02) goes into 
great detail about all of this. This draft document expired on 9/11/2011. Is 
there a successor document and/or other references that you would recommend on 
this topic? Thanks.

Jeffry A. Spain
Network Administrator
Cincinnati Country Day School

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Re: DNSSEC and CVE-2012-1033 (Ghost domain names)

2012-02-10 Thread Casey Deccio
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:38:42PM -0800,
>  Casey Deccio  wrote
>  a message of 67 lines which said:
>
> > Actually, it should, in the spirit of DNSSEC.
>
> OK, so there is nothing that can be done at the registry level.


No.


> Only
> the resolver admin can use DNSSEC to solve the ghost domain problem,
> by enabling DNSSEC validation. Correct?
>

Yes.  Unless future specification or implementation designated that
delegation follow the same model as trust--that is, that a delegation only
last as long as the parent said it did.  But I'm not sure that's the right
approach, and this seems to me to be somewhat of a niche problem.

Casey
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Re: DNSSEC and CVE-2012-1033 (Ghost domain names)

2012-02-10 Thread Casey Deccio
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Casey Deccio  wrote:

> Unless future specification or implementation designated that delegation
> follow the same model as trust--that is, that a delegation only last as
> long as the parent said it did.


I hadn't previously read Paul's resimprove draft on this topic, but it was
newly posted on dns-operations, and it describes this very behavior.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove-00

Casey
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