Re: problem for validate the script dnssec to isc dlv

2011-03-28 Thread Eivind Olsen
> dns appear as my syncro.
> yet I'm still at the same point
> missing keys

Your delegation for the domain fakessh.eu doesn't seem to be 100% correct
yet though.

If I ask the nameservers for .eu (like p.nic.eu) it tells me your domain
belongs to 4 nameservers:

ns0.xname.org
ns1.xname.org
ns1.novacrea.fr
r13151.ovh.net

If I ask the first one on that list, ns0.xname.org, it tells me you only
have 3 nameservers:

ns1.xname.org
ns1.novacrea.fra
r13151.ovh.net

If I try to get a reply from ns1.xname.org it just goes into timeout here:

[eivind@vimes ~]$ dig +dnssec ns fakessh.eu @ns1.xname.org

; <<>> DiG 9.6.-ESV-R3 <<>> +dnssec ns fakessh.eu @ns1.xname.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[eivind@vimes ~]$

If I try to get a reply from r13151.ovh.net I just get a servfail:

[eivind@vimes ~]$ dig +dnssec ns fakessh.eu @r13151.ovh.net

; <<>> DiG 9.6.-ESV-R3 <<>> +dnssec ns fakessh.eu @r13151.ovh.net
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 53023
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;fakessh.eu.IN  NS

;; Query time: 55 msec
;; SERVER: 87.98.186.232#53(87.98.186.232)
;; WHEN: Mon Mar 28 10:02:33 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39

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can I set the second nameserver to a public dns cache?

2011-03-28 Thread terry
Hello,

I have only one nameserver for a domain.
Can I set the second nameserver for this domain to a public dns cache?
for example:


abc.com.  IN  NS  ns1.abc.com.
abc.com.  IN  NS  ns2.abc.com.

ns2.abc.com.  IN  A  8.8.8.8  # 8.8.8.8 is google's public dns server


Since DNS cache does a rec-resolver, so it will also answer with the
correct result?

Thanks.
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is notify message going with UDP or TCP?

2011-03-28 Thread terry
BIND master sends the notify message with TCP or UDP protocal?

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Re: can I set the second nameserver to a public dns cache?

2011-03-28 Thread Mark Andrews

In message , terr
y writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I have only one nameserver for a domain.
> Can I set the second nameserver for this domain to a public dns cache?
> for example:

No.  A cache is NOT authoritative for the zone.
 
> abc.com.  IN  NS  ns1.abc.com.
> abc.com.  IN  NS  ns2.abc.com.
> 
> ns2.abc.com.  IN  A  8.8.8.8  # 8.8.8.8 is google's public dns server
> 
> 
> Since DNS cache does a rec-resolver, so it will also answer with the
> correct result?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: is notify message going with UDP or TCP?

2011-03-28 Thread Mark Andrews

In message , 
terr
y writes:
> BIND master sends the notify message with TCP or UDP protocal?
 
UDP.

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Re: can I set the second nameserver to a public dns cache?

2011-03-28 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 08:25:46PM +0800, terry wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have only one nameserver for a domain.
> Can I set the second nameserver for this domain to a public dns cache?
> for example:
> 
> 
> abc.com.  IN  NS  ns1.abc.com.
> abc.com.  IN  NS  ns2.abc.com.
> 
> ns2.abc.com.  IN  A  8.8.8.8  # 8.8.8.8 is google's public dns server
> 
> 
> Since DNS cache does a rec-resolver, so it will also answer with the
> correct result?


You can set another peer nameserver to be a public, private,
commercial, or other name server as follows:

; Zone file for abc.com.
$TTLxxx
@   IN SOA  ...
IN NS   ns1.abc.com.
IN NS   google-public-dns-a.google.com.
IN NS   res060.ns.uu.net.

[Note the blank space in front of the [unneeded] "IN" in each "NS"
above: they each inherit the LHS from the record above.]

Assuming that an IP address that is not yours will "never" change is a
frightening assumption, especially when proved untrue.  Don't plant
someon else's IP address in your name space, unless there is a firm
agreement between yourself and them about why it's there and how changes
will be communicated.


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Re: can I set the second nameserver to a public dns cache?

2011-03-28 Thread Eivind Olsen
> Hello,
> I have only one nameserver for a domain.
> Can I set the second nameserver for this domain to a public dns cache?
> for example:
> abc.com.  IN  NS  ns1.abc.com.
> abc.com.  IN  NS  ns2.abc.com.
> ns2.abc.com.  IN  A  8.8.8.8  # 8.8.8.8 is google's public dns server

No. Don't do that. A cache/resolver is not the same as an authoritative
server. For example, it will not flag the cache contents as being
authoritative (the AA flag).

Get a proper secondary/slave nameserver somewhere, it doesn't need to be
costly.

Regards
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Re: is notify message going with UDP or TCP?

2011-03-28 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 08:30:00PM +0800, terry wrote:
> BIND master sends the notify message with TCP or UDP protocal?


RFC 1996:

   3.4. The transport protocol used for a NOTIFY transaction will be UDP
   unless the master has reason to believe that TCP is necessary; for
   example, if a firewall has been installed between master and slave,
   and only TCP has been allowed; or, if the changed RR is too large to
   fit in a UDP/DNS datagram.


So, JUST AS WITH RESPONSES TO QUERIES, both UDP and TCP must be allowed
for reliable service.


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Re: can I set the second nameserver to a public dns cache?

2011-03-28 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:35:06PM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
...
> No.  A cache is NOT authoritative for the zone.
...


Of course right.  I concentrated on the form and missed the substance.
I was thinking of a service that will serve your DNS for you - which a
caching server is not.


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Re: problem for validate the script dnssec to isc dlv

2011-03-28 Thread fakessh @
it is, I'm coming I do not understand the need to recreate and validate
the file keyset-en ... I then recreate a good record with the key in
this file and my past signatures are good. I did not understand
correctly the operation of dlv


keyset files and I recreated downgrade bind to the stable version 9.3 of
CentOS 5.5 and using webmin. can you give me the command to use to
create files Keyset

I did not find any documentation regarding the creation of this type of
file 
I will update my blog more precisely with the new guidelines


thanks for your good support
thanks mark andrews
thanks Torinthiel
thanks eivind olsen
thanks evan hunt
thanks dan mahoney
thanks michel graff


Le lundi 28 mars 2011 à 10:04 +0200, Eivind Olsen a écrit :
> > dns appear as my syncro.
> > yet I'm still at the same point
> > missing keys
> 
> Your delegation for the domain fakessh.eu doesn't seem to be 100% correct
> yet though.
> 
> If I ask the nameservers for .eu (like p.nic.eu) it tells me your domain
> belongs to 4 nameservers:
> 
> ns0.xname.org
> ns1.xname.org
> ns1.novacrea.fr
> r13151.ovh.net
> 
> If I ask the first one on that list, ns0.xname.org, it tells me you only
> have 3 nameservers:
> 
> ns1.xname.org
> ns1.novacrea.fra
> r13151.ovh.net
> 
> If I try to get a reply from ns1.xname.org it just goes into timeout here:
> 
> [eivind@vimes ~]$ dig +dnssec ns fakessh.eu @ns1.xname.org
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.-ESV-R3 <<>> +dnssec ns fakessh.eu @ns1.xname.org
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> [eivind@vimes ~]$
> 
> If I try to get a reply from r13151.ovh.net I just get a servfail:
> 
> [eivind@vimes ~]$ dig +dnssec ns fakessh.eu @r13151.ovh.net
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.6.-ESV-R3 <<>> +dnssec ns fakessh.eu @r13151.ovh.net
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 53023
> ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;fakessh.eu.IN  NS
> 
> ;; Query time: 55 msec
> ;; SERVER: 87.98.186.232#53(87.98.186.232)
> ;; WHEN: Mon Mar 28 10:02:33 2011
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 39
> 
> Regards
> Eivind Olsen
> eiv...@aminor.no
> 
> 
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RE: can I set the second nameserver to a public dns cache?

2011-03-28 Thread Timothe Litt
No.  But you can use a public (commercial or non-commerical) secondary DNS
service.

Google "secondary dns" or "free secondary dns".  You will find a number of
services and reviews.

Be careful in selecting - many charge or limit you based on the number of
queries and/or zones.   QOS and reliablity vary, as do levels of support.
Note that not all secondary services use BIND.

Many of the free services don't yet support DNSSEC, don't accept NOTIFY
(polling instead) or are un-reliable.  Most don't support IPV6 and don't
have any QOS guarantee.  Also, for any serious use, you want geographic
separation for disaster-tolerance.  Nonetheless, you can find reasonable
free services.

Commercial services also vary the same parameters as well as price and
support.

I settled on puck.nether.net/dns for my personal domain, which seems to stay
current with BIND, has been reliable, supports IPV6 and NOTIFY and is
located in Chicago.  But your milage (and criteria) may vary.


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if any, on the matters discussed. 
 
-Original Message-
From: terry [mailto:te...@list.dnsbed.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 08:26
To: bind-users
Subject: can I set the second nameserver to a public dns cache?

Hello,

I have only one nameserver for a domain.
Can I set the second nameserver for this domain to a public dns cache?
for example:


abc.com.  IN  NS  ns1.abc.com.
abc.com.  IN  NS  ns2.abc.com.

ns2.abc.com.  IN  A  8.8.8.8  # 8.8.8.8 is google's public dns server


Since DNS cache does a rec-resolver, so it will also answer with the correct
result?

Thanks.


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SV: ip6.arpa help

2011-03-28 Thread mattias.o.andersson
Great slides, thanks! Still looks like there is a long way to go until there is 
a standard implementation for reverse DNS ipv6 for large subnets. My problem is 
that before you put too much effort into it you want to see how other solved 
this problem or maybe get a standard of some kind.
So my approach will probably be to delegate ip6.arpa for enterprise customers 
and to ignore or use wildcard for the private customers. Don't know if this 
will cause any problem thou!? Do they use reverse lookups as a lame security 
function in IPv6 as well?  

Cheers,
Mattias

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[mailto:bind-users-bounces+mattias.o.andersson=gavle...@lists.isc.org] För 
Persiko, Mark
Skickat: den 18 mars 2011 18:43
Till: bind-users
Ämne: RE: ip6.arpa help

Hello,

This was shared at RIPE61 and is pertinent to this discussion.   It presents 
different approaches toward managing IPv6 PTR records for large subnets:

http://ripe61.ripe.net/presentations/139-Ripe-61-rDNS-kzorba-freedman.pdf

Thanks, 
 Mark

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From: bind-users-bounces+mark.persiko=level3@lists.isc.org 
[mailto:bind-users-bounces+mark.persiko=level3@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
Eivind Olsen
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 7:07 AM
To: bind-users
Subject: Re: ip6.arpa help

Den 18. mars 2011 kl. 10.07 skrev  
:
> Are there any good information, maybe RFC,  how reverse DNS should be done in 
> IPv6. Then I don't mean how to register a ip6.arpa and edit your zone-file in 
> bind. I mean how you solve the problem with generate 2^64 unique PTR records 
> for a single customer without filling your hard drive. =)

I'm in a similar situation, and no, I don't know of a nice and easy way of 
doing this with current software.

Pre-generating reverse records for any possible IPv6 address in your prefix(es) 
isn't going to work. Adding it to your own services/servers such as email 
servers etc, that's easy. But how can you know which of the 2^64 addresses your 
customer is going to be using?
I've been toying with some ideas, not sure which one would actually work the 
best way:
- don't add any IPv6 reverse records for customers
- you could take the overhead of letting your customers either ask for specific 
reverse records to be implemented (through customer service? self service web 
interface?)
- if your customers get assigned addresses from DHCPv6, you might consider 
letting it update the zones for you
- in theory you could delegate the responsability for reverse records in the 
customers prefix to them, but I doubt many customers would actually bother 
running their own nameservers for this.
- perhaps some alternative nameserver software is capable of generating the 
reverse records on the fly, based on some template, if there's not a specific 
record already defined?

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Logging the answers to queries

2011-03-28 Thread gsad26...@gmail.com
What is the logging option to log the answers?
Example, in my bind logs, I can see these type of entries:

28-Mar-2011 09:54:20.034 queries: info: client 127.0.0.1#56237: query:
www.isc.org IN A +

But I can't find anything in the logs what the answer to the query was.
I've searched the bind documentation as well.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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ISC BIND 9.6-ESV-R4 is now available

2011-03-28 Thread Evan Hunt

 BIND 9.6-ESV-R4 is now available.

Introduction

   BIND 9.6-ESV-R4 is a maintenance release for BIND 9.6-ESV.  It is
   critical for those using DNSSEC validation, and strongly recommended
   otherwise.

   There was a defect in 9.6-ESV-R3 which affects DNSSEC validating resolvers;
   it may cause queries for .com names to fail with validation errors when
   DNSSEC records for the .com zone are initially inserted into the root
   zone on Thursday, 31 March 2011.

   BIND 9.6.3, 9.7.3, and 9.8.0 are not affected by this defect.  9.6.2 and
   earlier versions are affected.

   BIND 9.6.3 has been repackaged with the name 9.6-ESV-R4.  Other than the
   version number, there are no functional differences between these versions.

   Upgrading to this release is urgent for operators of validating
   resolvers using BIND 9.6-ESV-R3 or earlier.  Non-validating resolvers
   and authoritative-only name servers are not affected.

   If you cannot upgrade your server software before 31 March 2011, you may
   wish to disable validation before the .com DNSSEC records are inserted
   into the root zone, and re-enable it again a few days after.

   If your server is not updated and becomes affected, "rndc flushname com"
   should correct the problem, as would restarting the server.
   
   For a detailed list of changes in this release, see the file CHANGES
   in the source, or ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/9.6-ESV-R4/CHANGES

Download

   The latest versions of BIND 9 software can always be found on our web
   site at http://www.isc.org/downloads. There you will find additional
   information about each release, source code, and some pre-compiled
   versions for certain operating systems.

Support

   Product support information is available on
   http://www.isc.org/services/support for paid support options.
   Free support is provided by our user community via a mailing
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notify-source-v6 and transfer-source-v6 for BIND 9.8

2011-03-28 Thread Ivan R. Sy
Hi bind-users,

its been a while since my last config of BIND and I was just wondering if 
notify-source-v6 transfer-source-v6 are still there for BIND 9.8.0?

the ARM says so.

when i do notify-source-v6  on a zone statement and reload it... 

 notify-source-v6 { 2001:470:1f05:1ae0::1;; };
 transfer-source-v6 { 2001:470:1f05:1ae0::1; };

29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.147 general: info: received control channel command 
'reload'
29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.147 general: info: loading configuration from 
'/etc/namedb/named.conf'
29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.149 config: error: /etc/namedb/named.conf:141: expected 
IPv6 address or '*' near '{'
29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.149 general: error: reloading configuration failed: 
unexpected token

I've tried both zone and on the global options.

server1# named -v
BIND 9.8.0

server1# ldd /usr/sbin/named
/usr/sbin/named:
libcrypto.so.6 => /lib/libcrypto.so.6 (0x800826000)
libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x800ac6000)
libz.so.5 => /lib/libz.so.5 (0x800d16000)
libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x800e2b000)
libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x801026000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x801146000)
libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x801254000)
libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x80136d000)


  
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Re: notify-source-v6 and transfer-source-v6 for BIND 9.8

2011-03-28 Thread Lyle Giese

On 03/28/11 17:37, Ivan R. Sy wrote:

Hi bind-users,

its been a while since my last config of BIND and I was just wondering if 
notify-source-v6 transfer-source-v6 are still there for BIND 9.8.0?

the ARM says so.

when i do notify-source-v6  on a zone statement and reload it...

  notify-source-v6 { 2001:470:1f05:1ae0::1;; };
  transfer-source-v6 { 2001:470:1f05:1ae0::1; };

29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.147 general: info: received control channel command 
'reload'
29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.147 general: info: loading configuration from 
'/etc/namedb/named.conf'
29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.149 config: error: /etc/namedb/named.conf:141: expected 
IPv6 address or '*' near '{'
29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.149 general: error: reloading configuration failed: 
unexpected token

I've tried both zone and on the global options.

server1# named -v
BIND 9.8.0




Drop the curly brackets.

notify-source-v6 2001:470:1f05:1ae0::1;
transfer-source-v6 2001:470:1f05:1ae0::1;

Lyle Giese
LCR Computer Services, Inc.
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GUI for bind

2011-03-28 Thread Jorg B.
Hello,

I'm looking for a GUI for bind that meets the following requirements:

(1) Must still be under development (and supported, either commercially or 
via community support)
(2) Supports "accounts/groups" that will allow me to create user accounts 
that are able to modify only zone records assigned to the account/group.
(3) Administrator access with the permissions to modify any zone record.
(4) Should support most common features of bind.
(5) Should support 100's of zone records.
(6) Should be somewhat easy to use, so that "non-experts" can figure it out.

The product does not have to be free... a commercial product is perfectly fine.
I've spend some time searching around, but most of the GUI products either 
don't support bind or are no longer maintained...

Any recommendations would be appreciated...

Thanks
JB
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Re: notify-source-v6 and transfer-source-v6 for BIND 9.8

2011-03-28 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On 29/03/2011 00:37, Ivan R. Sy wrote:

Hi Ivan,

> its been a while since my last config of BIND and I was just
> wondering if notify-source-v6 transfer-source-v6 are still there for BIND 
> 9.8.0?
> 
> the ARM says so.
> 
> when i do notify-source-v6  on a zone statement and reload it... 
> 
>  notify-source-v6 { 2001:470:1f05:1ae0::1;; };
>  transfer-source-v6 { 2001:470:1f05:1ae0::1; };
> 
> 29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.147 general: info: received control channel command 
> 'reload'
> 29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.147 general: info: loading configuration from 
> '/etc/namedb/named.conf'
> 29-Mar-2011 16:21:04.149 config: error: /etc/namedb/named.conf:141: expected 
> IPv6 address or '*' near '{'

This error message is the hint: the notify-source-v6 option is expecting
to find an IP address, but instead found a '{'. Don't use curly braces
with these options: they only take one address (or an asterisk) as a
parameter.

Regards,

Anand Buddhdev
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RE: GUI for bind

2011-03-28 Thread Baird, Josh
We have used the commercial Men & Mice suite for 3 years now and have
had great success with it.  It meets all of your requirements listed
below.  It has an intuitive Windows based console as well as a web
application that can be used to manage DNS, IPAM and DHCP.  It works
directly on top of BIND without any modifications.

Josh

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[mailto:bind-users-bounces+jbaird=follett@lists.isc.org] On Behalf
Of Jorg B.
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 6:55 PM
To: bind-users
Subject: GUI for bind

Hello,

I'm looking for a GUI for bind that meets the following requirements:

(1) Must still be under development (and supported, either
commercially or via community support)
(2) Supports "accounts/groups" that will allow me to create user
accounts that are able to modify only zone records assigned to the
account/group.
(3) Administrator access with the permissions to modify any zone
record.
(4) Should support most common features of bind.
(5) Should support 100's of zone records.
(6) Should be somewhat easy to use, so that "non-experts" can figure
it out.

The product does not have to be free... a commercial product is
perfectly fine.
I've spend some time searching around, but most of the GUI products
either don't support bind or are no longer maintained...

Any recommendations would be appreciated...

Thanks
JB
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