Re: rndc flush(more-than-one)name

2010-06-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> In message , Chris 
> Thom
> pson writes:
> > Arising out of today's little accident with the "de" TLD ...
> > 
> > Am I right in thinking that "rndc flushname de" flushes only entries for
> > that specific name, and not for names in the tree *under* "de"? It would
> > be rather useful to have the latter facility (short of flushing the whole
> > cache).
> > 
> > Of course, it would be possible to invent arbitrarily refined variants
> > on this theme - in this case what was wanted was "flush all negative
> > answers for names matching [f-z]*.de" - but maybe not very productively.

On 13.05.10 10:26, Mark Andrews wrote:
>   "rndc flushnamespace" / "rndc flushname -recurse" would have to
>   walk the tree and remove each entry.  This can be time consuming.

is this planned feature or does it already work somewhere?
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RE: Multiple PTRs for an in-addr

2010-06-03 Thread Alan Shackelford
Well said, Paul. I make my users choose between the various names for a server, 
and generally publish the name that the machine actually knows itself as, 
rather than any of the application names that reside there. In my opinion, the 
RFC is fairly clear. And my users don't know you have added this capability to 
BIND. So I agree this should never become the expected behavior, even if it 
begins to appear in great DNS software around the world.

73 Paul  de NG3B   Alan



Alan V. Shackelford   Sr. Systems Software Engineer
The Johns Hopkins University and Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions
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Chris Thompson  writes:

> Nothing that I can see. Maybe dnsviz can't cope with multiple PTR
> records in an RRset, as your first case has? (On the other hand it
> handles multiple A records in forward zones OK.)

to be fair, multiple PTR RRs is something we added in BIND gethostbyaddr()
in more or less direct contravention to RFC 1034. if dnsviz doesn't handle
it (and i don't know if it doesn't) then it's not dnsviz's fault at all
since the DNS RFC's say that there will only be one PTR RR at an in-addr.
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Re: Choosing authoritative nameservers

2010-06-03 Thread Elias
Thanks for the reply sir! Just to share, I've finally figured out why my 
traces always seem to be hitting ens2.bursamalaysia.com no matter what I do. 
A packet dump actually shows requests being sent out to both 
ens1.bursamalaysia.com and ens2.bursamalaysia.com but somehow only 
ens2.bursamalaysia.com answers my queries (with a broken answer to boot!). 
I've tried changing my source IP and voila ens1.bursamalaysia.com suddenly 
starts answering again. They must really have some strange things going on 
their network. Their SOA does not list any valid contacts and their WHOIS 
contact isn't bothered to respond...just great...



- Original Message - 
From: "Matus UHLAR - fantomas" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Choosing authoritative nameservers



On 02.06.10 16:20, Elias wrote:

Does anyone know how BIND chooses which authoritative server to refer to?
When a referal returns ns1.abc.com, ns2.abc.com and ns3.abc.com, will the
recursive server randomly send out a request to either ns1, ns2 or ns3 or
is there a selection algorithm?


there's algorithm preferring the server with fastest responses but
ocasionally tryiong other servers.


I've got a problem resolving www.klse.com.my and its probably caused by a
broken server along the path. But the problem is I keep hitting the same
server everytime no matter how many times I flush my caches.


it's most probably not caused by server selection in BIND but in broken
delegation.

this is provided by com.my. sevrers:


klse.com.my.86400   IN  NS  ens1.klse.com.my.
klse.com.my.86400   IN  NS  ens2.klse.com.my.
;; Received 103 bytes from 61.6.38.139#53(ns5.jaring.my) in 6 ms


ens1.klse.com.my.   86400   IN  A   211.25.178.3
ens2.klse.com.my.   86400   IN  A   121.123.146.80

This is provided by delegated servers:

;; ANSWER SECTION:
klse.com.my.28800   IN  NS  ens1.bursamalaysia.com.
klse.com.my.28800   IN  NS  ens2.bursamalaysia.com.

;; SERVER: 211.25.178.3#53(211.25.178.3)

klse.com.my.28800   IN  NS  ens1.bursamalaysia.com.
klse.com.my.28800   IN  NS  ens2.bursamalaysia.com.

;; SERVER: 121.123.146.80#53(121.123.146.80)


- we can safely say STOP here, the delegation is broken, fix it.


However, looking at bursamalaysia.com domain... Delegation:

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
bursamalaysia.com.  172800  IN  NS  ens1.bursamalaysia.com.
bursamalaysia.com.  172800  IN  NS  ens2.bursamalaysia.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ens1.bursamalaysia.com. 172800  IN  A   211.25.178.3
ens2.bursamalaysia.com. 172800  IN  A   121.123.146.80


while ens1.bursamalaysia.com. returns same list of namservers, but does 
not

return glue records for them, the ens2.bursamalaysia.com. returns SERVFAIL
for bursamalaysia.com.

It's even more broken.


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Re: rndc flush(more-than-one)name

2010-06-03 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:21:08 +0200,
Matus UHLAR - fantomas  wrote:

> > "rndc flushnamespace" / "rndc flushname -recurse" would have to
> > walk the tree and remove each entry.  This can be time consuming.
> 
> is this planned feature or does it already work somewhere?

This is a planned (or wished) feature.  Not available right now.

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Re: clarification on AXFR

2010-06-03 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:39:30 +0530,
rams  wrote:

> During AXFR of a zone, the zone.dbfile is not created till the AXFR
> completes. Till AXFR completes, the file name will be some value as
> 456eefwfc. Is it correct behavior?

Yes, that's the intended behavior.

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