Re: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware
You need to consider three components for memory: OS + other services; the zone files you load + cache you want. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > Hi, > > currently I have 2 Solaris 9 boxes in my home based data center running as > primary and secondary dns servers; they are Sun Netra T105's with 440MHz > SPARC prcossors and 320MB of RAM. > > http://www.optiplex-networks.com/lab/lab.html > > Basically as I am going to be moving abroad since I have finished my > studies now and am about to get a job I will need to replace them in my new > residence and was just wondering if anyone had any idea of the hardware > specs I would need. > > As in should I be going for a single socket or dual socket server and how > much memory would I need also if I should virtualize the systems at all? > - Basically get one dual socket quad core system then run something like Sun > xVM or Citrix Xen on it and then have an instance of Primary and Secondary > or just use Solaris Zones as I will be whacking OpenSolaris most likely onto > them anyway > > I am quite confident that 1-2GB of memory should be sufficient to handle > the OS and multiple lookups as I'm planning on tying 3 sites together with > them plus using them as main servers for my domain also. > > I mean an idea of hardware was to get 1 or 2 Sun Fire X2250s solely for DNS > then run the Named service in a Small-Zone which I feel is equivalent to > running them chrooted on a linux system?? Which I used to run bind on > Debian Etch chrooted before the Netra's came along and I started learning > Solaris! > > What can anyone recommend??? > > Many thanks for any responses :-) > > Kaya > > > > > ___ > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users > ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware
Pedro Alvarez Espinoza wrote: You need to consider three components for memory: OS + other services; the zone files you load + cache you want. Many thanks Pedro :-) I think since I plan to run with Linux at first say 2-3GB memory should be fine as I will use Zimbra and Apache with it too on 2 physical boxes. That should be ok. Although when I migrate to OpenSolaris I may need a bit more, say 4GB depending on what else I will have running. But I think definitely the way to go for me looks to be running multiple services on one machine unlike now where my machines aren't powerful enough. Since a dedicated machine for my home setup for just one specific service I reckon will be overkill and unnecessarily increase my budget. ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
RE: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware
Perhaps the inverse would be more interesting: what's the lowest-spec hardware that could host an OS that would run the latest version of BIND. =) Frank -Original Message- From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Barry Margolin Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:09 AM To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org Subject: Re: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware In article , Kaya Saman wrote: > > > > Since you haven't mentioned how many zones and records you're hosting, > > how do you expect anyone to guess how much hardware you need? > > > > > Yes thank you for pointing that out! I do apologize as I mentioned I've > just finished my studies and am as of yet quite in-experienced yet with > certain things so please do not frown upon me for that! - I know many > people here are top notch pro's and I do not fall into that category but > someone who is eager to get there :-) > > Anyhow, I have 4 zone files for 1 domain currently and I'm using 2 > views; internal and external. I hope to expand too once I have more > finances available to me and start mirroring Linux distros and perhaps > even OpenSolaris and BSD as well. But for now it's fairly simple stuff! > > I have noticed however that with the current setup my secondary DNS is > getting used quite a bit too as both systems are doing quite a few > translations - luckily I have a Cisco router in place so my WAN > connection is stable and does not crash like with a consumer based > router.. In private email, he told me he has 59 forward and reverse records in the internal view, and 22 of each in the external view. This is nothing. A 10-year-old Pentium should be able to handle this without breaking a sweat. -- Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware
Frank Bulk wrote: Perhaps the inverse would be more interesting: what's the lowest-spec hardware that could host an OS that would run the latest version of BIND. =) Frank Silly guess, but a cell phone running linux?? (with static IP could be a mobile domain server) As stated previously I have it running on 440MHz SPARC currently with 360MB RAM. I guess this could be pushed down to a PI or PII, --- I am aware of the differences between the CISC based 64bit SPARC chip and the RISC based 32bit Intel ;-) incase any one has any objections... ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware
Kaya Saman wrote: Frank Bulk wrote: Perhaps the inverse would be more interesting: what's the lowest-spec hardware that could host an OS that would run the latest version of BIND. =) Frank Silly guess, but a cell phone running linux?? (with static IP could be a mobile domain server) As stated previously I have it running on 440MHz SPARC currently with 360MB RAM. I guess this could be pushed down to a PI or PII, --- I am aware of the differences between the CISC based 64bit SPARC chip and the RISC based 32bit Intel ;-) incase any one has any objections... ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users It's not Bind or perhaps is some sort of hacked out version but basically since Cisco IOS comes with it's own DNS server which I have dabbled in on my 857W at home, being based round BSD I presume with the right OS one could run Bind comfortably on that?? Taken from output of show version: Cisco 857W (MPC8272) processor (revision 0x200) with 59392K/6144K bytes of memory. I'm pretty sure the little 857W would run Bind if someone actually was able to build BSD on it or so.. it has 64MB of RAM too so should be good enough for at least 5 people. {provided one takes out the systems routing capability though as the way I use the router is maxed out lol} ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware
A very decent performance can be achieved on a K6 330MHz with 128MB, also running all sorts of other servers. This HW is from about 1995 and still sufficient for BIND and more. Kaya Saman wrote: > Frank Bulk wrote: >> Perhaps the inverse would be more interesting: what's the lowest-spec >> hardware that could host an OS that would run the latest version of >> BIND. =) >> >> Frank >> >> > Silly guess, but a cell phone running linux?? (with static IP could be > a mobile domain server) > > > As stated previously I have it running on 440MHz SPARC currently with > 360MB RAM. I guess this could be pushed down to a PI or PII, --- I > am aware of the differences between the CISC based 64bit SPARC chip > and the RISC based 32bit Intel ;-) incase any one has any objections... > ___ > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- Best regards Sten Carlsen No improvements come from shouting: "MALE BOVINE MANURE!!!" ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware
Small home linksys router running open WRT can do the job, with 16MB of RAM and some low powered MIPS CPU. On Saturday, September 19, 2009, Frank Bulk wrote: > Perhaps the inverse would be more interesting: what's the lowest-spec > hardware that could host an OS that would run the latest version of BIND. =) > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org > [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Barry Margolin > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:09 AM > To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org > Subject: Re: Migrating DNS servers, need advice on hardware > > In article , > Kaya Saman wrote: > >> > >> > Since you haven't mentioned how many zones and records you're hosting, >> > how do you expect anyone to guess how much hardware you need? >> > >> > >> Yes thank you for pointing that out! I do apologize as I mentioned I've >> just finished my studies and am as of yet quite in-experienced yet with >> certain things so please do not frown upon me for that! - I know many >> people here are top notch pro's and I do not fall into that category but >> someone who is eager to get there :-) >> >> Anyhow, I have 4 zone files for 1 domain currently and I'm using 2 >> views; internal and external. I hope to expand too once I have more >> finances available to me and start mirroring Linux distros and perhaps >> even OpenSolaris and BSD as well. But for now it's fairly simple stuff! >> >> I have noticed however that with the current setup my secondary DNS is >> getting used quite a bit too as both systems are doing quite a few >> translations - luckily I have a Cisco router in place so my WAN >> connection is stable and does not crash like with a consumer based >> router.. > > In private email, he told me he has 59 forward and reverse records in > the internal view, and 22 of each in the external view. > > This is nothing. A 10-year-old Pentium should be able to handle this > without breaking a sweat. > > -- > Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu > Arlington, MA > *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** > ___ > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users > > ___ > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users > ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users