Re: [Ayatana] GSoC '10 Idea : NotifyOSD improvements

[Oscar RdG]

+1

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Scott E. Armitage <
launch...@scott.armitage.name> wrote:

> I couldn't agree more; the notification system introduced with NotifyOSD
> is, on the whole, awesome, and I couldn't imagine going back to stupid
> little balloon tips tat pop up with a distracting noise and demand to be
> shooed away.
>
> -S
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Mike Rooney  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy Nickurak wrote:
>>
>>> We've been pushing this 'ethereal notification' idea for a long time. Has
>>> anybody outside Ubuntu picked up on it? Why or why not? Is it a direction
>>> that should be continued on, or is a course-change required?
>>
>>
>> I think it's awesome, and the small number of complaints compared to the
>> millions of Ubuntu users seems to agree. I can't stand systems that use
>> notifications that pop-up and get in the way of my workflow. I admit to
>> having thought the idea of removing actions was bad, but after using it for
>> a bit I can't imagine going back.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Rooney
>> mroo...@ubuntu.com
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Re: [Ayatana] Windicators mockups (daniel planas)

[Oscar RdG]

Hello,

Nice mockups Dani!!!

Just one comment: on the maximized window mockup [1] you have put on the
panel both the [window controls + window title] and the [window menu].
I think the idea is to show just the [window controls + window title], and
then on a mouse hover morph them to show [window controls + window menu].
That way, it will look cleaner.

Cheers

[1]
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=une_windicators_max.jpg

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:21 PM, daniel planas wrote:

> Hello again, I'm glad they liked my mockups. I built the models for the
> interface LIght (the future of network ubuntu remix) need something to
> separate the windicators indicators (when the windows are maximized), we
> find confusion by users. (Ex: network indicator and windicator connected).
> On the wiki you will find the new mockups and old ones.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators#preview
> (wiki)
>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=une_windicators.jpg
>
> (Light normal)
>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=une_windicators_max.jpg
>
> (Ligt maximized)
>
>>
>> indeed, I added to the icons of windicators a sketch of the red, (online,
> not-connected, and connect-error) hope you like
>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=windicators_icons.tar
>
> Daniel.P
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ayatana] Windicators mockups (daniel planas)

[Oscar RdG]

Hi!

That is Dani's mockup.
He put together on the panel the window controls, window title and window
menu at the same time.

I just wanted to point out that the original idea that Mark wrote about [1]
was to combine title and menu on the panel, but not at the same time:
"By default, we’d display the contents of the title bar. When you mouse up
to the panel, or when you press the Alt key, the contents would switch to
the menu. That way, you’re looking at the document title most of the time,
unless you move towards it to click on the menu."

Maybe i did not explain myselft clearly enough! :)

Cheers,

[1] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/359

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 3:35 AM, Frederik Nnaji wrote:

> Hey there Oscar,
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 19:04, Oscar RdG  wrote:
>
>> [1]
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators/DanielsWindicators?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=une_windicators_max.jpg
>>
>
> Please explain if you may.. : how does this mockup honor the planned
> introduction of Global Menu?
>
>
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Re: [Ayatana] Places > People

[Oscar RdG]

Hello everybody,

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Jean Levasseur
wrote:

> Hello Frederik,
>
> 2010/8/21, Frederik Nnaji :
> > The "dash" as you spell it, is what exactly again?
> > Does "dash" mean another "Place" in Nautilus, where my contacts will be
> > listed and searchable?
>
> If I understand well, the dash is a concept introduced in Unity, not
> necessarly bound to Nautilus.
>

Some screenshots of unity dash (files and applications):
http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/unity-ubuntu-software-center-and-sound.html


> I'm not at all a business user, neither I have an incredible amount of
> friends yet my contact list easily carries more that two hundred
> entries.  Surely I do _not_ want all those listed in a menu, but
> rather I want to have at hand a mechanism to filter them in order to
> find the one(s) I'm looking for.
>

I think the dash has some very nice features to allow easy filtering of
files and applications than can be used also with contacts:
* groups of contacts next to the search box (family, work, friends...)
* most recent contacts and/or most accessed contacts... on the "main" part
of the dash (below the search box)

Hopefully in the coming months we can reach something like that, thanks to
the work being done on libfolks (allowing fo have metacontacts on empathy
and the desktop) and zeitgeist.
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Re: [Ayatana] The need for renaming computer during installation

[Oscar RdG]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Vishnoo  wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 13:09 -0700, Lance wrote:
> > I noticed early on with the new ubiquity that there was no option to
> > rename the computer during installation. While I don't personally do
> > that I saw that was a problem for some at the forums so I filed a bug
> > report:
> >
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/628087
> >
>

Hi there,

Not being able to choose the computer name in an easy way, and assigning an
automatic name (ie. user-desktop) could lead to confusion in ubuntu one.

User case:
John has two laptops and is using ubuntu one to sync some files between
them. He wants to disconnect one of them from his ubuntu one account because
he is giving it to his younger sister.
But the two laptops have the same computer name (john-laptop), and they were
added at the same day to his ubuntu one account, so there is no way to know
which one must be disconnected.

Cheers...
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

[Oscar RdG]

Good morning,

Nice mockups!!

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Seif Lotfy  wrote:

> Although the information needed is already available in Telepathy we also
> have them in Zeitgeist, yet I recommend using Telepathy for this Mock-up.
>
Maybe it is better to use libfolks to manage "people" (with email addresses,
IM addresses, etc.) instead of just chat buddies.

Cheers.
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Re: [Ayatana] Unity - Web and People

[Oscar RdG]

Hi there!

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Seif Lotfy  wrote:

> Hi Frederik,
>
> Yeah Zeitgeist will tell you most used and recently used etc... The
> metadata will be pulled form libfolks or telepathy. We just know when these
> people and how often they were contacted.
>

As I can read on [1]:
"Work items:
Store friend properties to be used in untiy-places-people: TODO
Add libdee filter for people to be used in unity-places-people: TODO"

Is that meaning that a new "People Dash" is going to be developed for Natty?
That could be wonderful news!

Thanks!

[1]
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-desktop-n-gwibber-enhancements
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Re: [Ayatana] File menu

[Oscar RdG]

Hi there,

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Arian van Gend wrote on 09/11/10 12:16:
> >
> > Besides, the File menu has been overloaded with actions that have
> > nothing to do with files anyway, and should therefore at least be
> > cleaned up.
>
> As a menu title, "File" is not a noun. It's a verb, just like "Edit",
> "View", "Go", "Insert", and "Format" are.


Then the spanish translations of many gnome applications have a bug...
because they are translated as "Archivo" (noun), instead of "Archivar"
(verb).
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Re: [Ayatana] Me & Messaging Indicator Menu

[Oscar RdG]

Hi everyone,

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:42 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com <
frederik.nn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought of Tabs, and i still do, i guess i just wanted to prove to myself
> that all this stuff fints vertically into one single unified menu.
> Making it pretty to reduce clutter and confusion is the next step.
> Tabs would appear as a block of Icons In the panel.
>

Tabs inside a menu don't look nice, imo.
Tabs on the panel: then, which are the difference between having different
indicators/menus in the panel?

I don't think it would be a good idea to unit Me and Messaging Menu on a
single Menu, it looks too cluttered.
I prefer to properly separate the functions (not services) on each of the
Menus:
* Messaging Menu: inbox (get new mail, get new IM, get social messages,
etc..)
* Me Menu: outbox (set presence status, write new mail, write new IM
messages, broadcast new "social message", etc...)

And maybe it could be a good idea to put them two together on the
panel, without the Time/Date Menu between them as it is now.

Cheers!
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Re: [Ayatana] Messaging Menu and the MeMenu

[Oscar RdG]

Good morning!

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:55 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com <
frederik.nn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> - "Contacts" and "Compose" in the Messaging Menu... having two
>> "outbox" entries lost in the middle looks and feels wrong...
>> and adds clutter
>>
>
> this is a great improvement, since it cleans up the menu a good deal.
> "Contacts" is completely useless in there to me, good you got rid of it.
> "Compose New Message" is also useless in there, since we are used to
> composing new messages in other places, e.g. the Me Menu, where we have a
> field solely for that purpose.
> good you removed that too.
>

So, aren't you then assuming "inbox functionality" in the Messaging Menu,
and moving "outbox functionality" (the ability to compose new messages) into
the Me Menu?
:)

Cheers!
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Re: [Ayatana] window and workspace management in unity

[Oscar RdG]

Hi there,

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Bazon  wrote:

>
> seriously, it is very hard to distinguish the several documents this way!
>

I have to agree.
I experience the same problem with terminal windows, as I usually have
several of them opened at the same time...

Cheers!
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Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

[Oscar RdG]

Hi there,

I like it!!

But maybe the workspace switcher would fit better on the "applications view"
of the launcher, instead of in the "dash view"?
It is used to switch between workspaces and opened applications, so it does
not belong to the dash view... at least imo.

Thanks for your mockup and cheers!

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Xavier  wrote:

>  I like it a lot !
>
> With configuration, for those who choose not hiding the dock, to have by
> default applications launchers, one click on Ubuntu icon switches to dock
> with Dash, Places, virtual desktops, trash..., another click re-switch back
> to applications icons etc...
>
> It leaves more space on launcher dock to put many applications icons,
> perfect.
>
>
> On 10/03/2011 14:12, Marc Lajoie wrote:
>
> Okay, here is a more elaborate mockup of what I intended, built on top of
> David Reichling's preliminary mockup (thanks btw!). Unfortunately I don't
> have anywhere to host it, so I'm just attaching it as an archive. If someone
> could put it up somewhere that would be great. As it is it can be used
> locally (it's only html and javascript). I've tested it only in Chromium
> browser and on a netbook screen, so if it comes out wacky it's probably my
> fault. Cheers!
>
>  Marc Lajoie
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Luke Benstead  wrote:
>
>> On 10 March 2011 09:25, Mark Shuttleworth
>>  wrote:
>> >
>>  > Let's see what people who try it have to say. Don't worry if there is
>> > negative feedback, that's what exploring and testing are all about.
>> > Thanks for making the testable mockup.
>> >
>>
>>  I really like the flipping* dock idea, it declutters the "application
>> area", I like the separation of applications and places. It's touch
>> friendly, easily discoverable (well, as discoverable as the Dash...)
>> and simple. What's not to like?
>>
>> Luke.
>>
>> *Obviously, a vertical rotation of the dock around the Y-axis would
>> look awesome!
>>
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