Re: [Ayatana] Yet another mockup/list of suggestions for the Unity-interface (ignore the other one)

2011-05-17 Thread Mohamed Ikbel Boulabiar
Just a small comment:

Compared to unity bar, the top bar isn't touch friendly, so any
mockup/suggestion that would fix this is very very welcome !

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Re: [Ayatana] Yet another mockup/list of suggestions for the Unity-interface (ignore the other one)

2011-05-17 Thread Ed Lin
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Mohamed Ikbel Boulabiar
 wrote:
> Just a small comment:
> Compared to unity bar, the top bar isn't touch friendly, so any
> mockup/suggestion that would fix this is very very welcome !

In case you haven't seen it yet, here's one without any top bar:
https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05651.html
/shameless plug ;-)

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[Ayatana] dialog sheet suggestions

2011-05-17 Thread Felix Lawrence
I note that Ubuntu is adopting "dialog sheets" for Oneiric - open, save and 
print dialogs will no longer appear as a separate window, but will be 'stuck' 
to their parent window:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/os-xgnome-3-style-dialog-sheets-coming-to-ubuntu-11-10/

I have two suggestions for the implementation of design sheets, to make it 
better than Apple's.  Apple's implementation of sheets has one disadvantage 
over regular modal dialogs: you can't see or select what's directly under the 
sheet.  Traditional modal dialogs can be moved to provide access, but Apple's 
sheets are stuck to the window and can't be moved.

Firstly, Ubuntu's dialog sheets should be draggable inside their parent window. 
 The sheet could even be dragged to be mostly outside the parent window, with 
only a small region of overlap.  The sheet would not be able to be dragged 
completely outside the parent window - it must at least partially overlap its 
parent at all times.  This allows the user to see/select any text in the parent 
window, while the sheet is still 'stuck' to the parent window.

Secondly (and less feasibly), sheets should be attached to tabs where possible, 
as opposed to windows.  So if you're in gedit with lots of documents open and 
select "Save As..." in one, the sheet appears, locks up that tab, but you can 
change to other tabs and work in those while the dialog is open in another.
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Re: [Ayatana] dialog sheet suggestions

2011-05-17 Thread Elias K Gardner
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Felix Lawrence <
felix.lawre...@student.usyd.edu.au> wrote:

> Firstly, Ubuntu's dialog sheets should be draggable inside their parent
> window.
>


>  Secondly (and less feasibly), sheets should be attached to tabs where
> possible, as opposed to windows.  So if you're in gedit with lots of
> documents open and select "Save As..." in one, the sheet appears, locks up
> that tab, but you can change to other tabs and work in those while the
> dialog is open in another.

I have found my self greatly desiring both of these features as well
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Re: [Ayatana] dialog sheet suggestions

2011-05-17 Thread Evan Huus
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Elias K Gardner  wrote:
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Felix Lawrence
>  wrote:
>>
>> Firstly, Ubuntu's dialog sheets should be draggable inside their parent
>> window.
>>
>>  Secondly (and less feasibly), sheets should be attached to tabs where
>> possible, as opposed to windows.  So if you're in gedit with lots of
>> documents open and select "Save As..." in one, the sheet appears, locks up
>> that tab, but you can change to other tabs and work in those while the
>> dialog is open in another.
>
> I have found my self greatly desiring both of these features as well

Likewise. Both would be a step up.

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Re: [Ayatana] dialog sheet suggestions

2011-05-17 Thread Ian Santopietro
I think the biggest problem with being able to drag sheets is that, for me,
sheets should be an all out or nothing type of implementation. If a new user
were allowed to drag a model sheet at all, then they would be confused if
they were unable to drag the sheet anywhere on the screen. In my experience,
you really don't need to have information from the parent window critical to
the completion of the sheet. If you do, then consider making the dialog
translucent instead.
On May 17, 2011 6:33 PM, "Felix Lawrence" <
felix.lawre...@student.usyd.edu.au> wrote:
> I note that Ubuntu is adopting "dialog sheets" for Oneiric - open, save
and print dialogs will no longer appear as a separate window, but will be
'stuck' to their parent window:
>
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/os-xgnome-3-style-dialog-sheets-coming-to-ubuntu-11-10/
>
> I have two suggestions for the implementation of design sheets, to make it
better than Apple's. Apple's implementation of sheets has one disadvantage
over regular modal dialogs: you can't see or select what's directly under
the sheet. Traditional modal dialogs can be moved to provide access, but
Apple's sheets are stuck to the window and can't be moved.
>
> Firstly, Ubuntu's dialog sheets should be draggable inside their parent
window. The sheet could even be dragged to be mostly outside the parent
window, with only a small region of overlap. The sheet would not be able to
be dragged completely outside the parent window - it must at least partially
overlap its parent at all times. This allows the user to see/select any text
in the parent window, while the sheet is still 'stuck' to the parent window.
>
> Secondly (and less feasibly), sheets should be attached to tabs where
possible, as opposed to windows. So if you're in gedit with lots of
documents open and select "Save As..." in one, the sheet appears, locks up
that tab, but you can change to other tabs and work in those while the
dialog is open in another.
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