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Re: Automake spam since last night

2002-05-04 Thread Roger Leigh

Bruce Korb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm usually pretty tolerant because I have decent filters
> and a DSL pipe, but this is extreme and needs to be stopped:

[...]

It's not just the automake list; I'm seeing this on bug-gnu-utils too.

I'm not convinced that having the lists completely open is a good idea
with the amount of spam nowadays.  Only allowing subscribers to post
(like on SourceForge) would stop virtually all spam, and anyone who
wants to post justs needs to subscribe (like everyone who wants to
recieve the list).  IIRC all posts from non-subscribers are held and
can be either rejected or accepted by the list admin.

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Re: Automake spam since last night

2002-05-04 Thread Tom Tromey

Bruce> I'm usually pretty tolerant because I have decent filters
Bruce> and a DSL pipe, but this is extreme and needs to be stopped:

Talk to the FSF sysadmins.  There's nothing I can do about it.

Tom




Re: monolithic Makefile.am

2002-05-04 Thread Tom Tromey

> "Richard" == Richard Boulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Richard> I split mine up into sub-files, one in each directory, using
Richard> "include".

This sounds good.

Richard> Each subMake.am must add itself to EXTRA_DIST.  Also, all
Richard> paths inside subMake.am have to be relative to the top
Richard> Makefile.  Variables which may have entries added in several
Richard> places (such as CFLAGS) are set to an empty value in
Richard> Makefile.am, and appended to in subMake.am's.

Long term I'd like us to ease this sort of thing.

My working idea is to have a new `import' command which is like
`include' but understands about directory structure.  So for instance
it would know that `bin_PROGRAMS = foo' in subdir would really mean
`bin_PROGRAMS = subdir/foo'.  Also all the normal targets would have
subdir versions, so you could invoke `make subdir/mostlyclean'.

There are a lot of details to solve.  And the implementation will be
hard, since it will touch basically everything.

Richard> I've not worked out a solution for letting each subMake.am
Richard> add something to a rule such as "install-local".

There isn't a good way right now.  Having a method to do this would be
good.  Could you submit a PR for it?

Tom




RE: monolithic Makefile.am

2002-05-04 Thread Robert Collins



> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Tromey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 11:18 AM

> Long term I'd like us to ease this sort of thing.
> 
> My working idea is to have a new `import' command which is 
> like `include' but understands about directory structure.  So 
> for instance it would know that `bin_PROGRAMS = foo' in 
> subdir would really mean `bin_PROGRAMS = subdir/foo'.  Also 
> all the normal targets would have subdir versions, so you 
> could invoke `make subdir/mostlyclean'.

I hacked up an import command. It was simply a variant on include, that
appended the include prefix to any relative paths. It worked so-so, but
I didn't have time to make it work well enough to submit it. Anyway, for
someone who actually understands automakes innards, it should be pretty
simple: refactor the standard include to perform canonicalisation with a
handed-in prefix, and then for normal include statements, use no prefix,
for imports use the path to the importee as the prefix. I don't have the
code around now, but IIRC I sent a proof-of-concept patch to the list.
 
> There are a lot of details to solve.  And the implementation 
> will be hard, since it will touch basically everything.

It didn't need to when I fiddled. The things that I ran into have
largely been solved now (subdir_objects etc were more buggy then). All
the rules are subdir and other dir aware, so it's only the
transformation of the include that matters. And I accomplished that by
setting the current logical dir to the one the importee was in before
processing, and restoring the logical dir afterwards.

Rob




RE: monolithic Makefile.am

2002-05-04 Thread Robert Collins

In fact, here are some of the references...

http://sources.redhat.com/ml/automake/2001-08/msg00061.html
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/automake/2001-08/msg00088.html
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/automake/2001-08/msg00109.html
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/automake/2001-08/msg00113.html

Msg 113 highlights one of the nasties that does turn up - local user
ruels of the 
@ for foo in $(MACRO) form.

http://sources.redhat.com/ml/automake/2001-08/msg00112.html
is the proof-of-concept I sent in.

Have fun,
Rob




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