Re: [arch-general] unclean filesystem

[gt]

To control the frequency of automatic checks, you can use tune2fs.

Re: [arch-general] mail client

[gt]

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Jeroen Op 't Eynde wrote:

I've been using Opera's Mail client. It is a no nonsense mail client with
> support for all above and it integrates with Opera itself obviously. It is
> closed source and not in the official repo's but you can find it in AUR.
>

It is also available from the archlinux.fr repo. opera's feed reader is also
awesome, but still my love for firefox makes me avoid it.

Re: [arch-general] VIM history

[gt]

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

> Hi, while I was on Fedora, whenever I opened a file using vim, the next
> time I open it, it used to open at the same line where I closed it.
>
> What is the setting to enable this feature ? Its a big pain in the a$$ to
> scroll through the file every time I want to find the line.
>
> --
> Nilesh Govindarajan
> Site & Server Adminstrator
> www.itech7.com
>

Add this to your .vimrc

" When editing a file, always jump to the last known cursor position.
  " Don't do it when the position is invalid or when inside an event handler
  " (happens when dropping a file on gvim).
  " Also don't do it when the mark is in the first line, that is the default
  " position when opening a file.
  autocmd BufReadPost *
\ if line("'\"") > 1 && line("'\"") <= line("$") |
\   exe "normal! g`\"" |
\ endif

Re: [arch-general] Update Conflicts

[gt]

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Samuel Baldwin  wrote:

> I'm trying to update my system with 'pacman -Syu', but doing so
> discovers a conflict with phonon; phonon conflicts with qt, but
> kdelibs apparently needs both. What should I do? Trying to install
> phonon by hand requires uninstalling qt, but other packages depend on
> it (including kdelibs).
>
> arrakis^samuel# pacman -Syu
> :: Synchronizing package databases...
>  core is up to date
>  extra is up to date
>  community is up to date
> :: Starting full system upgrade...
> :: Replace kdelibs-experimental with extra/kdelibs? [Y/n]
> :: Replace kernel-headers with core/linux-api-headers? [Y/n]
> :: Replace pil with extra/python-imaging? [Y/n]
> warning: quodlibet-plugins: local (20080926-2) is newer than extra (2.2-1)
> resolving dependencies...
> warning: dependency cycle detected:
> warning: xorg-server will be installed before its nvidia-utils dependency
> looking for inter-conflicts...
> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
> :: kdelibs: requires phonon
> --
> Samuel Baldwin - logik.li
>
This was posted on planet arch, arch-news, and already discussed here on the
list.

What you basically need to do is:

$ pacman -Sy --asdeps qt
$ pacman -Su

This should fix the problem.

Re: [arch-general] Nuking a MySQL Install

[gt]

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Samuel Baldwin
wrote:

> Howdy.
>
> I fucked up an old mysql install and I want to start completely over,
> but pacman -R mysql (even with --nosave) doesn't remove everything;
> I'm still unable to run '/usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation' after
> reinstalling mysql; it fails setting the new password. Any way to
> completely obliterate all traces of mysql on my machine so I can just
> start over.
>
> This is the output of /usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation which
> includes the error:
>
> arrakis^zedbot# /usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation
>
> NOTE: RUNNING ALL PARTS OF THIS SCRIPT IS RECOMMENDED FOR ALL MySQL
>  SERVERS IN PRODUCTION USE!  PLEASE READ EACH STEP CAREFULLY!
>
> In order to log into MySQL to secure it, we'll need the current
> password for the root user.  If you've just installed MySQL, and
> you haven't set the root password yet, the password will be blank,
> so you should just press enter here.
>
> Enter current password for root (enter for none):
> OK, successfully used password, moving on...
>
> Setting the root password ensures that nobody can log into the MySQL
> root user without the proper authorisation.
>
> Set root password? [Y/n]
> New password:
> Re-enter new password:
> ERROR 1142 (42000) at line 1: UPDATE command denied to user
> ''@'localhost' for table 'user'
> Password update failed!
>
> --
> Samuel Baldwin - logik.li
>
Did you try the --debug switch for pacman. See what information it shows.

Re: [arch-general] zen kernel

[gt]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Otávio Módolo  wrote:

> T.T
>
> sorry for that, i'm going back to silence again. cya
>
>
Again with Top posting :D

Re: [arch-general] zen kernel

[gt]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:

>
> IMAP doesn't delete mails from mail server. You can use IMAP on multiple
> machines.
>

He probably meant that it isn't feasible to maintain mailing clients on
multiple machines. but anyway, gotta love IMAP (saying this while using web
interface, even though being on a single machine :D ).

Re: [arch-general] Pacman Error: upgrading to same package version again & again

[gt]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Gaurish Sharma
wrote:

> Hi,
> Pacman is acting weird.
> Its asking me to upgrade same set of packages over & over. Even, I have
> just
> updated said packages.I posted my query on forums[1] but helpful reply. So
> posting it here:
>
> gaurish ~ > upgrade
> :: Synchronizing package databases...
>  core  35.9K   21.8K/s 00:00:02
> [#]
> 100%
>  extra445.1K   31.6K/s 00:00:14
> [#]
> 100%
>  community is up to date
> :: Starting full system upgrade...
> warning: go-openoffice: ignoring package upgrade (3.2.0.4-1 => 3.2.0.5-1)
> resolving dependencies...
> looking for inter-conflicts...
>
> Targets (8): flashplugin-10.0.45.2-1  fuse-2.8.3-1  gstreamer0.10-base-
> plugins-0.10.26-1  soprano-2.4.0.1-1  kdelibs-4.4.0-4
> ppp-2.4.5-1  rp-pppoe-3.10-4  vi-050325-2
>
> Total Download Size:0.15 MB
> Total Installed Size:   97.46 MB
>
> Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
> :: Retrieving packages from core...
>  vi-050325-2-x86_64   158.3K   17.8K/s 00:00:09
> [#]
> 100%
> checking package integrity...
> (8/8) checking for file conflicts
> [#]
> 100%
> (1/8) upgrading flashplugin
> [#]
> 100%
> (2/8) upgrading fuse
> [#]
> 100%
> (3/8) upgrading gstreamer0.10-base-plugins
> [#]
> 100%
> (4/8) upgrading soprano
> [#]
> 100%
> (5/8) upgrading kdelibs
> [#]
> 100%
> (6/8) upgrading ppp
> [#]
> 100%
> (7/8) upgrading rp-pppoe
> [#]
> 100%
> >>> The kernel-mode plugin has a new place.
> >>> It's now located under /usr/lib/rp-pppoe/rp-pppoe.so
> >>> Change LINUX_PLUGIN to the new path in your /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf
> (8/8) upgrading vi
> [#]
> 100%
>
>
> Now If I run the update again, it still asks to upgrade same set of
> packages
> again.
>
>
>
> gaurish ~ > upgrade
> :: Synchronizing package databases...
>  core is up to date
>  extra is up to date
>  community is up to date
> :: Starting full system upgrade...
> warning: go-openoffice: ignoring package upgrade (3.2.0.4-1 => 3.2.0.5-1)
> resolving dependencies...
> looking for inter-conflicts...
>
> Targets (7): flashplugin-10.0.45.2-1  fuse-2.8.3-1  gstreamer0.10-base-
> plugins-0.10.26-1  soprano-2.4.0.1-1  kdelibs-4.4.0-4
> ppp-2.4.5-1  rp-pppoe-3.10-4
>
> Total Download Size:0.00 MB
> Total Installed Size:   97.12 MB
>
> Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
> checking package integrity...
> (7/7) checking for file conflicts
> [#]
> 100%
> (1/7) upgrading flashplugin
> [#]
> 100%
> (2/7) upgrading fuse
> [#]
> 100%
> (3/7) upgrading gstreamer0.10-base-plugins
> [#]
> 100%
> (4/7) upgrading soprano
> [#]
> 100%
> (5/7) upgrading kdelibs
> [#]
> 100%
> (6/7) upgrading ppp
> [#]
> 100%
> (7/7) upgrading rp-pppoe
> [#]
> 100%
> >>> The kernel-mode plugin has a new place.
> >>> It's now located under /usr/lib/rp-pppoe/rp-pppoe.so
> >>> Change LINUX_PLUGIN to the new path in your /etc/ppp/pppoe.conf
>
>
> This errors is weird and I also have fsck root, /home partition . I would
> apreciate your help in solving this
>
>
> [1] http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=91207
>

Maybe try cleaning the pacman cache.

[arch-general] Planet Arch Linux atom feed.

[gt]

Guys, if any of you are subscribed to planet arch, then you must have
noticed a problem with some of the feeds.

The problem is, the summary of the feed displays fine, but when i open the
feed, it shows the xml of the feed instead of showing the website.

http://planet.archlinux.org/atom.xml (this is shown).

This happens with only a few of the feeds. Recently happened with these
feeds:

Arch Haskell News: February 2010, Archiso-live 20100217 Release.

I am using firefox with newsfox. Anyone else notice this?
Godane's Development Blog

Re: [arch-general] Planet Arch Linux atom feed.

[gt]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Aaron Griffin wrote:

>
> Can you please clarify what you mean by "opened the feed"? The feeds
> items you describe *do* link to planet.archlinux.org and not the
> feed's parent. This may be a bug in those feeds (both are wordpress)
> or it may be a bug in planet. I am not sure
>

By Opening i mean, going to the page linked with the feed. i view feeds in
text form in the feed reader, but sometimes i instead click the feed link to
go to the webpage.

Most of the feeds on planet arch, when "opened" go to the blogs linked to
the feed content.

but some, when opened simply show the atom xml.

Re: [arch-general] Planet Arch Linux atom feed.

[gt]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Allan McRae  wrote:

>
> This is nothing to do with the atom feed specifically.  Go to the main
> planet page and click on the links for articles from Godane or Arch Haskell.
>  They do not link through to the blog they came from.
>
>
Yes, they simply show the website instead of the particular article. while
other feeds take to the specific article on the website. Maybe i am not able
to explain it clearly, but i think you can try it yourself, even with
firefox live bookmarks. I mean each entry in a feed has a link, but the link
on the problematic feed is simply http://planet.archlinux.org/atom.xml

So clicking on it sort of makes an endless loop, and to read the full
article i have to manually open the planet arch website and then go the
respective (only problematic ones) blog from there.

[arch-general] init showing as ini

[gt]

Hi guys, this has been known for a while, that init shows as ini.

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15362

Now that we have ditched klibc, can this bug be fixed now?

Re: [arch-general] How to obtain development headers for package

[gt]

Wow did all of you post simultaneously ;)

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft keyboard and unworking keys

[gt]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:47 AM, André Ramaciotti <
andre.ramacio...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I've found something interestingly weird. The output of ls -lh
> /dev/input/by-id shows that this keyboard has three /dev/input entries:
> /dev/input/event14, /dev/input/event15 and /dev/input/js0 (?) . Event14 is
> the "main keyboard", where most of the keypresses result in an event. Both
> event15 and js0 react to only one key (one of the non-working ones). So
> mistery somewhat solved: it is indeed a Microsoft thing, and I'm
> semi-officially giving up making this keyboard work 100%. I has more
> multimedia keys that I'll ever need, anyway (most of them working).
>

Next time make sure not to buy a ms keyboard :)

I replaced one a few months ago, which was from my non linux days, and
worked perfectly under linux. but just out of principle, i bought a non ms
keyboard this time.

Re: [arch-general] init showing as ini

[gt]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:08 AM, gt  wrote:

> Hi guys, this has been known for a while, that init shows as ini.
>
> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15362
>
> Now that we have ditched klibc, can this bug be fixed now?
>

After today's mkinticpio update, the issue seems to be fixed.

Re: [arch-general] top posting

[gt]

People using gmail's web interface are not likely to notice any problem with
top or bottom posting, since gmail collapses the quoted text. but when we
use a mail client, then we see the difference.

Source: Personal experience. After reading a lot about posting style on this
mailing list, i decided to try imap (i mainly use web interface of gmail),
and could clearly see the difference.

[arch-general] urxvt colours and Xresources

[gt]

Hello folks

I have been facing this issue from a long time. The issue is that
sometimes the bold colours aren't loaded by urxvt.

I mainly use the terminals inside screen, and then the colours are
loaded properly (not always though). But when launching the terminal
standalone, the colours aren't loaded properly.

Here's the screenshot with normal colours:

http://ompldr.org/vYm9ucA

And when the problem occurs

http://ompldr.org/vYm9ubw

I have also attached my .Xresources and .xinitrc with the message.

Please if someone has a clue, then enlighten me.

Thanks

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!
! urxvt preferences !
!

urxvt.termName: rxvt-256color
urxvt.loginShell: true
urxvt.scrollBar: false
urxvt.saveLines: 5000
urxvt.buffered: true
urxvt.cursorBlink: true
urxvt.urgentOnBell: true
urxvt.internalBorder: 0
urxvt.externalBorder: 0
urxvt.iso14755: false
urxvt.iso14755_52: false

! pseudo transparency
urxvt.transparent: true
urxvt.tintColor: white
urxvt.shading: 20 

! xft settings
xft.dpi: 86
xft.hinting: true
xft.hintstyle: 3
xft.antialias: true
xft.rgba: rgb

! font settings
!urxvt.font: xft:monaco:pixelsize=13
urxvt.font: xft:dina:pixelsize=18
urxvt.boldFont: xft:dina:bold:pixelsize=18

!!
! colour preferences
urxvt.foreground: #EFEFEF
urxvt.background: #00

! black/bright black
urxvt.color0: #22
urxvt.color8: #00

! red/bright red
urxvt.color1: #D71313
urxvt.color9: #FF

! green/bright green
urxvt.color2: #28BA26
urxvt.color10: #00FF00

! yellow/bright yellow
urxvt.color3: #FFA900
urxvt.color11: #00

! blue/bright blue
urxvt.color4: #0A77D3
urxvt.color12: #004BFF

! magenta/bright magenta
urxvt.color5: #A000A0
urxvt.color13: #E64CE6

! cyan/bright cyan
urxvt.color6: #0D
urxvt.color14: #01

! white/bright white
urxvt.color7: #EAEAEA
urxvt.color15: #FF
!!

! extension settings
urxvt.perl-ext-common: default,url-select
urxvt.keysym.M-u: perl:url-select:select_next
urxvt.urlLauncher: opera
urxvt.underlineURLs: true
#!/bin/bash
##
## ~/.xinitrc
##
## Executed by startx (run your window manager from here)
##
#

# activate num lock
numlockx &

# set left-pointer
xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr &

# set font path
xset +fp /usr/share/fonts/local/ &

# start unclutter
unclutter -idle 5 -noevents -root &

# start xbindkeys
xbindkeys &

# load xresources
xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources

# set wallpaper (start feh)
sh ~/.fehbg &

# start terminal
urxvt_launch.sh &

# set window manager name (for java) 
wmname LG3D &

# run conky
conky | while read -r; do xsetroot -name "$REPLY"; done &

# run autocutsel (synchronize clipboard buffers)
autocutsel -fork &
autocutsel -selection PRIMARY -fork &

# launch dwm
exec ~/bin/dwm-start.sh

Re: [arch-general] urxvt colours and Xresources

[gt]

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 03:40:09PM +0100, Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 08:44:14AM +0530, gt wrote:
> > I have been facing this issue from a long time. The issue is that
> > sometimes the bold colours aren't loaded by urxvt.
> > 
> > I mainly use the terminals inside screen, and then the colours are
> > loaded properly (not always though). But when launching the terminal
> > standalone, the colours aren't loaded properly.
> >
> > urxvt.termName: rxvt-256color
> 
> Have you tried to not to change the default termName?
> 
> I use urxvt and the bold fonts work for me (outside screen) with the
> default one, `rxvt-unicode-256color'.
> 
> If I try yours, `rxvt-256color', it happens the same to me, no bold
> fonts.

If i change the termName to rxvt-unicode-256color, it still doesn't
work. Moreover, screen then refuses to launch with the message

$TERM too long - sorry.

This was the reason i switched to rxvt-256color termName in the first
place.

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Re: [arch-general] urxvt colours and Xresources

[gt]

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:20:08AM -0500, nico wrote:
> Have you tried updating your machine? "$TERM too long - sorry" is a
> quite old bug, which has already been fixed for several months. 

Hmm.. I was using screen-vs from aur. Just switched to screen from
extra and this bug is gone.

But, setting termName to rxvt-unicode-256color in .Xresources still
doesn't have any effect on non-screen terminals, i.e., no bold colours
still.

But, i also notice a strange behaviour. I suspect this might have
something to do with just vim. I just tried these colour scheme scripts
and they do show bold colours.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xdefaults#Color_scheme_scripts

Also, other applications such as cmus, mutt are also showing bold
colours in non screen terminals. Only vim seems to be having this
problem.

I am out of all ideas..

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Re: [arch-general] urxvt colours and Xresources

[gt]

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:54:22PM +0530, gt wrote:
> > But, setting termName to rxvt-unicode-256color in .Xresources still
> > doesn't have any effect on non-screen terminals, i.e., no bold colours
> > still.
> 
> With urxvt, I don't specify the termName, it sets its default to
> `rxvt-unicode-256color'. So, just to be sure, if you don't set manually
> the termName, does improve the situation?

No, removing termName from .Xresources doesn't change the scenario at
all.

Also, as you might have read in a previous mail of mine, i suspect that
this is mainly affecting vim, other terminals apps are able to display
bold colours in non-screen terminals.

But, why only vim is displaying this behaviour is beyond me. If it's of
any use, i am attaching my vimrc.

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" An example for a vimrc file.
"
" Maintainer:   Bram Moolenaar 
" Last change:  2008 Jul 02
"
" To use it, copy it to
" for Unix and OS/2:  ~/.vimrc
" for Amiga:  s:.vimrc
"  for MS-DOS and Win32:  $VIM\_vimrc
"   for OpenVMS:  sys$login:.vimrc

" When started as "evim", evim.vim will already have done these settings.
if v:progname =~? "evim"
  finish
endif

" Use Vim settings, rather then Vi settings (much better!).
" This must be first, because it changes other options as a side effect.
set nocompatible

" allow backspacing over everything in insert mode
set backspace=indent,eol,start

set history=50  " keep 50 lines of command line history
set ruler   " show the cursor position all the time
set showcmd " display incomplete commands
set incsearch   " do incremental searching

" For Win32 GUI: remove 't' flag from 'guioptions': no tearoff menu entries
" let &guioptions = substitute(&guioptions, "t", "", "g")

" Don't use Ex mode, use Q for formatting
map Q gq

" CTRL-U in insert mode deletes a lot.  Use CTRL-G u to first break undo,
" so that you can undo CTRL-U after inserting a line break.
inoremap  u

" In many terminal emulators the mouse works just fine, thus enable it.
if has('mouse')
  set mouse=a
endif

" Switch syntax highlighting on, when the terminal has colors
" Also switch on highlighting the last used search pattern.
if &t_Co > 2 || has("gui_running")
  syntax on
  set hlsearch
endif

" Only do this part when compiled with support for autocommands.
if has("autocmd")

  " Enable file type detection.
  " Use the default filetype settings, so that mail gets 'tw' set to 72,
  " 'cindent' is on in C files, etc.
  " Also load indent files, to automatically do language-dependent indenting.
  filetype plugin indent on

  " Put these in an autocmd group, so that we can delete them easily.
  augroup vimrcEx
  au!

  " For all text files set 'textwidth' to 78 characters.
  autocmd FileType text setlocal textwidth=78

  " When editing a file, always jump to the last known cursor position.
  " Don't do it when the position is invalid or when inside an event handler
  " (happens when dropping a file on gvim).
  " Also don't do it when the mark is in the first line, that is the default
  " position when opening a file.
  autocmd BufReadPost *
\ if line("'\"") > 1 && line("'\"") <= line("$") |
\   exe "normal! g`\"" |
\ endif

  augroup END

else

  set autoindent" always set autoindenting on

endif " has("autocmd")

" Convenient command to see the difference between the current buffer and the
" file it was loaded from, thus the changes you made.
" Only define it when not defined already.
if !exists(":DiffOrig")
  command DiffOrig vert new | set bt=nofile | r # | 0d_ | diffthis
  \ | wincmd p | diffthis
endif

" My own settings

set shiftwidth=4
set tabstop=4
set ignorecase
" Set line numbering
set number

" Necessary for multiple encodings
set encoding=utf-8

" Common code for encodings
function! SetFileEncodings(encodings)
let b:myfileencodingsbak=&fileencodings
let &fileencodings=a:encodings
endfunction
function! RestoreFileEncodings()
let &fileencodings=b:myfileencodingsbak
unlet b:myfileencodingsbak
endfunction

" .NFO specific
au BufReadPre *.nfo call SetFileEncodings('cp437')|set ambiwidth=single
au BufReadPost *.nfo call RestoreFileEncodings()

" easy buffer switching
nnoremap  :buffers:buffer

Re: [arch-general] urxvt colours and Xresources

[gt]

Well, changing the termName to rxvt, has solved things for now. I know
it's not good to force termNames, but i didn't see any other solution
for now. Let's wait and see if this gives trouble or not.

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Re: [arch-general] urxvt colours and Xresources

[gt]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 09:48:23PM +0100, Koen Wilde wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:21:55 +0530, gt  wrote:
> > But, why only vim is displaying this behaviour is beyond me. If it's of
> > any use, i am attaching my vimrc.
> 
> Did you try a different (256-color) vim color scheme?

I tried a 256 colour scheme (inkpot) as you said, but it too didn't make
any difference.

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Re: [arch-general] urxvt colours and Xresources

[gt]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 06:34:02PM +0530, gt wrote:
> Well, changing the termName to rxvt, has solved things for now. I know
> it's not good to force termNames, but i didn't see any other solution
> for now. Let's wait and see if this gives trouble or not.

Well i came up with a ridiculous idea, and it works!

I was uncomfortable using $TERM=rxvt, so i was looking at better
solutions.

It was also clear that this problem was affecting only vim. Somewhere i
read to set t_Co=256 in vimrc, but that didn't help. What i did instead
was to set t_Co=8 and now everything works perfect with 
$TERM=rxvt-unicode-256color.

I don't use 256 colours anyway, so it's not a bother at all.

Thanks to everyone for help.

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[arch-general] Top Posting Revisited

[gt]

Hello folks, i'll probably get flamed for reviving a very controversial,
yet consistently brought up topic.

I have seen a similar thread last year, and every other day, someone
points out to someone that top posting is bad.

I was off the list for a while, and now when i came back, the story is
still the same.

I know top posting is bad, and i too sometimes preach people to avoid
it. But from what i've seen, most of the times, people don't bother, or
simply don't know what's wrong.

Instead of having top-posting related mails in every thread, there
should be a better way out.

I suggest all of the top-posting haters should including one of these
links or similar in their signatures.

http://idallen.com/topposting.html

http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

Also, we can have a forum and mailing list etiquette drive for a few
days, with mention in the arch linux news, the mailing list, and setting
it as the topic in the irc channel also.

I know this is probably overkill, but it'll probably inform a lot more
people about these issues than some stray posts in every other thread.

PS: Since arch is always ahead of the other distros in adopting new
stuff and bringing about change, let's be the first ones to spread some
netiquette.

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Re: [arch-general] Question regarding the default file manager in XFCE

[gt]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 02:32:42PM +0100, Vladimir Nikšić wrote:
> > I think this is handled by the same XDG 'mimeapps.list' which contains
> > file type associations. Just add an entry for "inode/directory" pointing
> > to Nautilus:
> >
> >    ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
> >
> >    [Default Applications]
> >    inode/directory=nautilus.desktop
> 
> Tried that, didn't work. I even restarted X to be sure it's lodaded,
> but Thunar still always loads. I think the mimeapps.list may be on to
> something, not sure. I'll look into it more.

from ubuntuforums:

sudo mv /usr/bin/xfdesktop /usr/bin/xfdesktop-off
sudo ln -s /usr/bin/nautilus /usr/bin/xfdesktop

more here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167149

But, i don't know if symlinking is such a good idea. Moreover there'll
be no desktop icons.

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[arch-general] archiso rebuild

[gt]

Hello folks

I was wondering if there is a way to rebuild a custom live disc, using
archiso, without having to download all the packages over again.

The problem is that after making a few changes to the configuration,
mainly inside root-image directory, i want to rebuild the iso.

But, running build.sh says that everything is up-to-date. Alternatively,
i tried removing the root squashfs file, and ran build.sh again. But, it
started downloading ~500MB of packages all over again :(

I'll probably have to do some more fine tuning before finalising the
iso, and i don't want this to repeat itself.

Please help.

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Re: [arch-general] archiso rebuild

[gt]

On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:05:25PM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> In the official builds, the downloaded packages are always reused. I am
> not intimitely familiar with the internals of archiso - you could
> subscribe to the arch-releng list and post there, at least Gerardo reads
> that list and will likely reply.

Thanks, i'll do that.


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Re: [arch-general] archiso rebuild

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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:24:17PM -0500, Jonathan Vasquez wrote:
> I don't know how to rebuild the ISO, but for the meantime, you could back
> up your
> 
> /var/cache/pacman/pkg
> 
> dir, since that is where your packages are stored. I hope that helps from
> not having to redownload 500 MB again.

Hmm.. I can try that too. But i'll confirm at arch-releng nevertheless.

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Re: [arch-general] About cron utility

[gt]

On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:50:06AM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Sat, 7 Jan 2012 11:49:48 +0800
> schrieb 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) :
> 
> > Which cron utility should I use,cronie or dcron?
> 
> I would still recommend fcron.

I am using dcron, and am quite satisfied with it. Can you elaborate why
you recommend fcron, i might switch.

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Re: [arch-general] Chromium KDE4 optional dependencies

[gt]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:13:09PM +0200, Chris Sakalis wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> I am not sure if this is the right place to post this, or if this is actually
> worth posting.
> 
> I am using KDE4 (4.7.4-1) and Chromium 16, which added support for the native
> KDE file dialog. I think that 'kdebase-kdialog' should be added as an optional
> dependency, because without it, the file chooser does not work. No error 
> message
> is displayed, but on my desktop computer the file chooser was broken (it 
> simply
> would not appear) until I installed the 'kdebase-kdialog' package.
> 
> I also tried removing the package on my laptop and it did broke the
> file chooser in
> Chromium. I didn't even have to restart Chromium for the changes to take 
> effect.
> 
> Thank you,
> Chris Sakalis

You should open a bug report on https://bugs.archlinux.org/

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Re: [arch-general] Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

[gt]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 05:14:13PM +0200, Mantas M. wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 08:33:36AM -0500, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > Pardon me for jumping in here, but if mutt isn't smart enough to
> > automatically use In-Reply-To: and/or References: headers on replies? Or
> > likes to add extra Re: (IE: Re: Re: Re:) to the subject header line?
> > {All of which is news to me BTW...} Then I gotta ask, "why use it?"
> 
> It *does* add In-Reply-To and References by default. It does *not* add extra 
> "Re:"s if one is already present. (It *does*, however, add "Re:" if it has 
> not been added yet; *all* mail programs do that.)

+1

Also, @ Joe Philbrook

Firstly, Alpine isn't maintained anymore.

Secondly, mutt is much more configurable and more help is available for
it on the net.

Before using mutt, i had tried alpine, but didn't like it much (mainly
because text based mail interfaces were new and strange to me, due to
switching from gmail's interface). But, then i found that it wasn't
being developed anymore, and i don't like to use outdated software,
especially which require interaction with the internet.

Configuring mutt was a pain, but well worth it.

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Re: [arch-general] Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

[gt]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 07:14:38PM +0200, Mantas M. wrote:
> On 2012-01-13 17:56, gt wrote:
> > Firstly, Alpine isn't maintained anymore.
> 
> There is a fork "re-alpine", though.

Yeah, I know of that, but i heard of it, after i got hooked to mutt :)

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Re: [arch-general] Just thinking out loud...

[gt]

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 01:34:23PM +, Clive Cooper wrote:
> > I have a Beagleboard running Arch Linux from http://archlinuxarm.org/
> > and it is great!
> >
> > Easy to install and everything just works :D
> 
> That's a very expensive board compared to the Raspberry pi price of
> $25 (Model A) $35(Model B).
> Let's just hope that the Raspberry Pi is being manufactured in enough
> quantity to meet what appears to be a massive interest. I think they
> will be selling many millions of these.

Don't get your hopes too high for the moment. I don't think initially
they'll be able to meet the demand. Also, the first batch will provide
feedback about the various shortcomings.

As an example, India's much touted Aakash tablet hasn't recieved too
positive results after being reviewed by actual users. Now the
shortcomings are being worked on.

These things happen, especially with cheap hardware.

But, kudos to all the people working on such projects, as they provide
hope to the billions of people who can't afford costly hardware.

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Re: [arch-general] Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

[gt]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 01:19:29AM -0500, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> -- snip --
>
> And I note that as a multi-boot/multi-Linux-distribution user That the
> "alpine" packages found in at least some of the distro's repositories
> appears to be compiled from re-alpine sources since If I understand it
> right, the last official Uwash alpine version was 2.00 yet for example:
> 
> ~ 
> UnderTree =-> pacman -Ss alpine
> extra/re-alpine 2.02-3 [installed]
> The continuation of the Alpine email client from University of Washington
> ~ 
> UnderTree =-> 
> 
> Since I tend to stick with package manager installed software, I can't tell
> you how pleased I was when I 1st noticed that some pacman -Syu had upgraded my
> Arch installation's alpine beyond version 2.00...  ;-)
 
But they (upstream) should change the useragent to re-alpine instead of
alpine.

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Re: [arch-general] Email via mutt+offlineimap+msmtp

[gt]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:15:50AM +0100, Ralf Madorf wrote:
> I don't understand why that much people are using MUAs without a GUI,
> anyway, a penfriend is blind, reading braille, a good reason to use a
> GUI free MUA. An Email I received yesterday was written with User-Agent:
> Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23)
> Debian testing and unstable are at 2.02-3 too.
> I don't think that Alpin will be dropped by major distros.

My reason for switching to a text based mail client (from gmail) was
that i had to use 32kbps internet for a while. Loading gmail was a pain,
and looking for options, i found alpine and mutt.

Now, text interfaces are my preference, firstly because my computer is
an old p4 with 1 gig of ram. And secondly, they fit nicely into tmux
(earlier screen).

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[arch-general] bashrc path not being enforced

[gt]

Hello list

Earlier I had appended my personal bin directory to /etc/profile's PATH,
and it worked perfectly.

Now, i am trying to add PATH to my user's .bashrc, but it doesn't come
into effect. Though adding it to .bash_profile works. I am using urxvt
and have set it to start as a login shell.

What can be the reason?

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Re: [arch-general] bashrc path not being enforced

[gt]

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 03:42:17PM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Am 27.01.2012 15:20, schrieb gt:
> > Earlier I had appended my personal bin directory to /etc/profile's PATH,
> > and it worked perfectly.
> > 
> > Now, i am trying to add PATH to my user's .bashrc, but it doesn't come
> > into effect. Though adding it to .bash_profile works. I am using urxvt
> > and have set it to start as a login shell.
> > 
> > What can be the reason?
> > 
> 
> 'man bash', section "INVOCATION".

Thank, I know the difference between a login shell and non-login ones,
and the files they use.

Well i sorted out the issue. I had a "source /etc/profile" in my .bashrc,
which was probable why the PATH wasn't coming into effect.

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Re: [arch-general] Beep no longer works

[gt]

On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 05:18:03AM +0100, Karol Blazewicz wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban
>  wrote:
> > #beep
> > Could not open /dev/tty0 or /dev/vc/0 for writing
> > open: No such file or director
> > [...]
> You need root / sudo. Works here.

Well looking at the # sign before the command, it seems he is using a
root shell.

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

[gt]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 09:59:44AM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 10:54:15 Christoph Vigano wrote:
> > On 02/09/2012 10:37 AM, P Nikolic wrote:
> > > 
> > >
> > > So where can i put  the xset command for it to work correctly every time
> > 
> > you could always put settings like these into your $HOME/.xinitrc,
> > that's where I have stored those settings.
> 
> Hi Christoph
> 
> I have tried in there it just gets ignored i know in the suse world i used to 
> put it there  but cant get it to behave on Arch which is a pity because  Arch 
> is far better in almost every other way ..

How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?

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Re: [arch-general] DPMS

[gt]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 02:13:57PM +, P Nikolic wrote:
> On Thursday 09 Feb 2012 16:11:05 gt wrote:
> > How do you login? i.e., which login manager do you use?
> i use KDM   
 
I don't think that kdm uses xinitrc by default. You'll have to make it
use xinitrc. It supports xsession i think. Maybe try symlinking
~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc.

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Re: [arch-general] [mirrorlist] Remove ftp mirrors from the default list

[gt]

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:06:49AM +0800, Abdul Halim Mat Ali wrote:
> I don't find download small files is slow especially when the mirror is at
> your country.
> Furthermore, my country namely Singapore only have one mirror and that one
> mirror using FTP.
> 
> Arch-devs. Kindly do not delete FTP from the list.
> The mirrors list are user config and not everybody use the same mirror and
> it is up to us
> to use which mirror. So, I don't see a point on remove the ftp mirrors.

Well i would like to point out that, you have indonesia, taiwan, japan
servers near you. And they support http. Japan's jaist.ac.jp is one of
the best servers i have tried. 

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Re: [arch-general] Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]

[gt]

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:45:54PM -0500, Rob Lewis wrote:
> I am running into an issue I have never really run into in the past with my
> current laptop. Upon installing arch linux I reboot and face the following
> issue which hangs forever during the bot process:
> 
> Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]
> 
> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 with NVidia Optimus and I enabled NVidia
> Discrete mode in the BIOS. I cannot boot into my system after installation,
> however sometimes it will skip by this error and I will lose all keyboard
> input and cannot login as a result. My workaround for the moment is to put
> the BIOS into Optimus mode (Intel and NVidia cards are enabled) and use the
> Intel video driver. I have tried nomodeset during the boot process but no
> luck. Googling the problem i find most people get a timeout after 30
> seconds to find out what is causing the problem, but my system hangs
> forever.
> 
> Is anyone else running into this issue or experienced enough to help me
> find out what the problem is? I have been running Arch since August 2011
> with no issues up until now.
> 
> Any help is appreciated,
>   -Rob

Maybe this thread can help. Many people seem to have problems with udev
recently.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134012

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[arch-general] Fw: Re: Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]

[gt]

Well it would seem he still found it useful. But forgot to cc the
mailing list.

- Forwarded message from Rob Lewis  -

Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:20:20 -0500
From: Rob Lewis 
To: gt 
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]

Thanks! That thread at least confirms that two others will the same laptop
are having the same issue.  As for what the problem is, not quite sure yet
but I will try reverting to a older kernel.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:50 PM, gt  wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:45:54PM -0500, Rob Lewis wrote:
> > I am running into an issue I have never really run into in the past with
> my
> > current laptop. Upon installing arch linux I reboot and face the
> following
> > issue which hangs forever during the bot process:
> >
> > Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]
> >
> > I have a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 with NVidia Optimus and I enabled NVidia
> > Discrete mode in the BIOS. I cannot boot into my system after
> installation,
> > however sometimes it will skip by this error and I will lose all keyboard
> > input and cannot login as a result. My workaround for the moment is to
> put
> > the BIOS into Optimus mode (Intel and NVidia cards are enabled) and use
> the
> > Intel video driver. I have tried nomodeset during the boot process but no
> > luck. Googling the problem i find most people get a timeout after 30
> > seconds to find out what is causing the problem, but my system hangs
> > forever.
> >
> > Is anyone else running into this issue or experienced enough to help me
> > find out what the problem is? I have been running Arch since August 2011
> > with no issues up until now.
> >
> > Any help is appreciated,
> >   -Rob
>
> Maybe this thread can help. Many people seem to have problems with udev
> recently.
>
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134012
>
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Re: [arch-general] Cannot upgrade.

[gt]

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:48:57PM +0530, Madhurya Kakati wrote:
> On 02/14/12 at 11:49pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > The pacman upgrade didn't cause trouble here. When I run pacman -Syu the
> > first time, only pacman was shown. Directly after installing it I run
> > pacman -Syu again and there where 5 targets.
> > 
> > # ntpdate ntp.favey.ch
> > 14 Feb 23:34:30
> > # pacman -Syu
> > :: Synchronizing package databases...
> >  core
> >  extra
> >  community
> >  multilib
> >  archaudio-production is up to date
> >  archaudio-preview is up to date
> >  kxstudio-free
> >  kxstudio-free is up to date
> >  kxstudio-non-fre
> >  kxstudio-non-free is up to date
> >  arch-fonts is up to date
> >  archaudio-nightly is up to date
> >  archaudio-experimental is up to date
> Dude, what are these extra repos for? Can you tell me how to include them in 
> my
> pacman.conf?
> Thanks.

Well if you want lesser headaches, avoid 3rd party repos. Read wonder's
post here:

http://archlinux.me/wonder/2012/02/13/how-to-increase-the-stability-of-your-system/

(especially the 3rd point)

But if you still insist, here is a list:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unofficial_User_Repositories

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[arch-general] /var/log/btmp empty

[gt]

Hello folks

My failed login attempts aren't being recorded, and lastb shows no
output.

The permissions are correct:

-rw--- 1 root root 0 Nov 15 06:39 /var/log/btmp

Reading a previous message on the mailing list, i tried setting 

FTMP_FILE   /var/log/btmp

in /etc/login.defs. But this gives the following error (right after typing
the username on a tty):

configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator)

So two questions:

1. Why isn't the option being recognised, even though it is present in
the man page for login.defs?

2. How do i enable logging to /var/log/btmp?

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Re: [arch-general] /var/log/btmp empty

[gt]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:11:06PM -0600, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> I think FTMP_FILE is obsolete. Logging of failed login attempts is handled by
> pam. Try running faillog(8)... Also I am not sure if /var/log/btmp has to be
> kept at all.

Thanks, i didn't know about faillog. Unfortunately, it doesn't behave
exactly like lastb, it only displays the failed attempts after the last
successful login. But something is better than nothing :)

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Re: [arch-general] Building taskjuggler 2.4.3 form AUR fails

[gt]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28:02AM +0100, Thorsten wrote:
> 
> Hi List, 
> on a freshly updated arch with a freshly pulled AUR I can't install
> taskjuggler (2.4). Taskjuggler3 can be installed, but I want to use
> Emacs orgmode's taskjuggler export, thats geared towards taskjuggler
> 2.4. 
> Anybody with the same problem?
> 
> 
> -
> 
> make[2]: Entering directory 
> `/home/tj/abs/taskjuggler/src/taskjuggler-2.4.3/TestSuite'
> Testing in CSV-Reports
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: 
> ignored.
> Testing in HTML-Reports
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: 
> ignored.
> ...
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: 
> ignored.
> Testing in Misc
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: 
> ignored.
> ...
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: 
> ignored.
> Testing in Scheduler
> Testing in Syntax
> Testing in TJX-Reports
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: 
> ignored.
> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: 
> ignored.
> Syntax error in XML file 'tjxreport-1-Export.tjx'.
> cmp: EOF on tjxreport-1-Export2.tjx
> 
> gzip: tjxreport-1-Export2.tjx: unexpected end of file
> 1,1022d0
> < 
> <  2.0//EN" "http://www.taskjuggler.org/dtds/TaskJuggler-2.0.dtd";>
> < 
> <   weekStartMonday="1" timeFormat="%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S %Z" 
> yearlyWorkingDays="260.714" dailyWorkingHours="8" version="1.0" id="prj" 
> name="tjxreport test" >
> <   1041379200
> <   1049155200
> <   1044057600
> 
> <   
> 2 errors detected!
> make[2]: *** [all-local] Fehler 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory 
> `/home/tj/abs/taskjuggler/src/taskjuggler-2.4.3/TestSuite'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tj/abs/taskjuggler/src/taskjuggler-2.4.3'
> make: *** [all] Fehler 2
> ==> FEHLER: Ein Fehler geschah in build().
> Breche ab ...
> 
> ~/abs/taskjuggler $ ls
> PKGBUILD  pkg  src  taskjuggler-2.4.3.tar.bz2
> 
> ~/abs/taskjuggler $ sudo pacman -U taskjuggler-2.4.3.tar.bz2 
> loading packages...
> error: missing package metadata in taskjuggler-2.4.3.tar.bz2
> error: 'taskjuggler-2.4.3.tar.bz2': invalid or corrupted package
> ~/abs/taskjuggler $ 

The package isn't being installed by pacman, because the compilation
failed. What you are trying to install using pacman -U is the package
source code. pacman operates on .tar.xz or .tar.gz files only anyway.

You should investigate why the compilation is failing.

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Re: [arch-general] renaming files

[gt]

On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:13:03PM +, pete wrote:
> Hi folks 
> 
> Bit sort of off topic but hopefully ok 
> 
> I have some 350 picture files  with names  along the lines of
> "IMG_7127 EOS-1D Mark III copy.jpg"i would like to rename them all
> to more like "IMG_7127.jpg"  i have tried a few times tonight and cant
> get my head around it anyone got a script that can do it 

If you don't mind graphical tools, try metamorphose2, it's available in
the aur, and is an extremely powerful renamer, and quite easy to use
too.

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[arch-general] partition mount, strange entry in log

[gt]

>From the past few weeks, i get this in the log during boot:

kernel: [8.165927] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounting ext3 file 
system using the ext4 subsystem
kernel: [8.194637] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem 
with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)

Here's the relevant part of the fstab:

UUID=<--> /mnt/sdb1 ext3 
auto,users,rw,exec,noatime 0 2

I understand that this isn't anything worrysome, but what exactly does
this mean: "using the ext4 subsytem"

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Re: [arch-general] partition mount, strange entry in log

[gt]

On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 07:31:57AM +, Jason Steadman wrote:
> On 8 March 2012 07:28, gt  wrote:
> 
> > From the past few weeks, i get this in the log during boot:
> >
> > kernel: [8.165927] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounting ext3 file
> > system using the ext4 subsystem
> > kernel: [8.194637] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem
> > with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
> >
> > Here's the relevant part of the fstab:
> >
> > UUID=<--> /mnt/sdb1 ext3
> > auto,users,rw,exec,noatime 0 2
> >
> > I understand that this isn't anything worrysome, but what exactly does
> > this mean: "using the ext4 subsytem"
> >
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> 
> It means exactly what is says, Arch now uses ext4 to mount ext2/3
> partitions.

Is it something new in the kernel or something arch specific? Also, what
does it mean to the end user? Are my ext3 partitions behaving like ext4
now?

Is it something like this:

http://v.gd/Gt8PhR

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Re: [arch-general] partition mount, strange entry in log

[gt]

> - Original Message -
> From: Jason Steadman
> Sent: 03/08/12 02:40 PM
> To: General Discussion about Arch Linux
> Subject: Re: [arch-general] partition mount, strange entry in log
> 
> On 8 March 2012 09:05, gt  wrote:
> >
> > Is it something new in the kernel or something arch specific? Also, what
> > does it mean to the end user? Are my ext3 partitions behaving like ext4
> > now?
> >
> > Is it something like this:
> >
> > http://v.gd/Gt8PhR
> 
> Explained here - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25341

Thanks, it's clear now.

Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable

[gt]

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:54:20AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> 
> > Track01 on dvd's always comes up with unknown length when trying to burn a 
> > dvd with wodim.  That's out of two different containers of dvd's too.  
> > These dvd's are single-sided so no danger of blue ray being used here.  
> > Fortunately I can do the burn with another system.
> 
> Cdrecord introduced DVD support in February/March 1998, so there is 14 years 
> of
> verified DVD support in cdrecord.
> 
> wodim started with the cdrecord version from September 2004, removed the DVD 
> support code and replaced it with something half baken. Since May 6th 2007, 
> there was no development activity on "wodim" besides from typo-corrections.
> 
> I recommend to use the actively maintained original cdrtools instead of the 
> dead "fork".

Joerg, will you recommend cdrtools over growisofs for dvds? As
apparently both mkisofs and growisofs do the same thing.

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Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable

[gt]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:01:08PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Thomas Bächler  wrote:
> 
> > That reminds me, I was going to re-add cdrtools to the repositories, but
> > I forgot, because I never write CDs or DVDs anyway (and when I do, it
> > works with what I have installed right now).
> 
> If you rarely use it and if you only use very basic functionality, you may 
> not 
> run into problems that are visible to you ... if you are lucky.
> 
> genisoimage creates nearly all ISO images with defects that may hit you in 
> the 
> future.
> 
> genisoimage misses many important features needed for DVDs and BluRays
> 
> wodim does not write BluRay at all and writing DVDs only works on a few cases.
> 
> BTW: Linux-2.2 may also still work - do you really like to use it today? 
> Wodim is code from 2004, it misses half of the development efforts seen in 
> the 
> original software.

I know that growisofs uses mkisofs, but didn't know that the present
version is 4+ years old.

Anyway, i just removed dvd+rw-tools, and k3b whines about not finding
growisofs in the PATH. What should i do? 

Joerg, out of curiosity, do you use the commandline version of your
baby, or some frontend?

@ Thomas, it would be great to have cdrtools in the repositories.

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Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable

[gt]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 01:01:35PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> gt  wrote:
> > Anyway, i just removed dvd+rw-tools, and k3b whines about not finding
> > growisofs in the PATH. What should i do? 
> 
> If you install cdrtools, this message should disappear.

I do have cdrtools installed, and k3b does detect cdrecord, mkisofs,
readcd etc.

But still k3b says this on startup:

Unable to find growisofs executable
K3b uses growisofs to actually write DVDs. Without growisofs you will
not be able to write DVDs. Make sure to install at least version 5.10.
Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.

PS: I have been using cdrtools instead of cdrkit since many years ;)

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Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable

[gt]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
> 
> On 03/20/2012 10:30 AM, gt wrote:
> 
> perhaps you also need dvd+rw-tools?

That's the whole discussion of the thread. I did have dvd+rw-tools
installed, but after Joerg insisted that they are not necessary, i
removed them. And it seems the k3b warning is superficial, it works fine
without dvd+rw-tools.

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Re: [arch-general] wodim unuseable

[gt]

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 03:50:30PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> gt  wrote:
> 
> > I do have cdrtools installed, and k3b does detect cdrecord, mkisofs,
> > readcd etc.
> >
> > But still k3b says this on startup:
> >
> > Unable to find growisofs executable
> > K3b uses growisofs to actually write DVDs. Without growisofs you will
> > not be able to write DVDs. Make sure to install at least version 5.10.
> > Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.
> >
> > Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable
> > K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs.
> > Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package.
> 
> Do you use an old version of k3b?
> 
> Do you use a modified version of k3b?
> 
> an unmodified k3b prevers to write DVDs via cdrecord since several years.

I am using the latest k3b from arch's repos. v2.0.2

But, i ignored the error and tried to write a DVD, and the burn went
fine without growisofs.

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Re: [arch-general] aria2c left a mess on system

[gt]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 08:57:48AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I've now cleared it off, but what had happened was a download of an iso 
> with a torrent file and afterwards the iso had a unique inode it couldn't 
> be checked with md5sum because md5sum claimed it didn't exist.  I didn't 
> even try it with the asc file since md5sum didn't work.  Also the file 
> command couldn't find the iso file either.  This was the case for both 
> root and a user doing the checks and the file permissions were set to 640 
> for both the root and user accounts yet neither could check the file.  
> I've had situations with aria2c where it has crashed and died with 
> exceptions on this machine in the past too.  After all of that 
> aggravation, I cleared the whole mess off my system and am about to deep 
> six aria2c for good measure.  The original bittorrent is no better and in 
> many ways worse so if I do anything with that type of download again I'll 
> either have to find me a 3rd linux alternative that can run from the 
> command line or just use free download manager on windows to get it done.

You can try rtorrent, transmission, deluge, etc they are quite good.

Also, if you are having problems with aria2 then report them to the
developer. He is quick to fix them.

ps: Please try to make use of paragraphs, it'll make your post more
clear.

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[arch-general] fsck on each boot?

[gt]

I recently added the fsck hook to mkinitcpio.conf after seeing it being
recommended in the forums. I don't have a separate /usr though.

Anyway, now after every boot i see:

performing fsck on 

It shows up clean, and happens in a flash of a second.

So my question is that is the hook supposed to perform fsck everytime?
Earlier (without the hook), it used to happen only on unclean shutdowns.

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Re: [arch-general] Funny issue with bash-completion and __git_ps1

[gt]

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:49:15AM +0200, Martti Kühne wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:05:48AM +0200, martin kalcher wrote:
> > Hey hey
> > 
> > After the last bash-completion and git update there is a funny issue
> > with the Git Prompt [1]: __git_ps1 is not defined
> > 
> > The bash-completion update moved most completion scripts to
> > /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/
> > 
> > and sources them if needed. See line 1933 in:
> > /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
> > 
> > __git_ps1 is defined in:
> > /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/git
> > 
> > So if you type 'git pul' this file gets sourced and the error
> > disappears. I worked around this by sourcing this file manually in
> > my .bashrc
> > 
> > My question is, where i should report this bug. Is it a git problem
> > or a bash-completion problem. I think its a git issue, because
> > __git_ps1 is no complete function and should be defined somewhere
> > else... Or shall i shut my mouth and continue sourcing it in my
> > .bashrc?
> 
> 
> you can go on sourcing the file in your .bashrc and report the issue upstream.
> although my personal opinion to the whole story is pacman -Rcs, since the
> problems with bash-completions are old, and the symptoms are recurring, in all
> different shapes, and the source code is a legendary mess.

What would you recommend instead? I too face problems time and again
with bash-completion and would like to get rid of it. Do you have some
special settings in your .bashrc?

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Re: [arch-general] Funny issue with bash-completion and __git_ps1

[gt]

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:19:37AM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 03/28/2012 03:28 AM, gt wrote:
> >What would you recommend instead? I too face problems time and again
> >with bash-completion and would like to get rid of it. Do you have some
> >special settings in your .bashrc?
> 
> No, just get rid of it. Your local bash completion will continue to
> work just fine without the 'bash_completion' package. I have had
> nothing but strange prompt issues with the package so I just finally
> removed it completely. Now completion and prompts work normal again
> -- in all situations.

Thanks i guess i'll remove it then.


On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 04:19:45PM +0200, Martti Kühne wrote:
> AFAIK, the bash_completion script that is installed with the bash-completion
> package merely is a latch script where all other software's completion 
> routines
> are sourced from '/etc/bash_completion.d'. You're free to source or not source
> whatever you want from that directory without the latch script installed, 
> since
> it's your system/cpu time. The dependencies arising from that can be made
> flexible by wrapping the source with a test -f each time. That would leave you
> with a few additional lines in your ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc, while
> keeping out the bloated mess that is bash_completion.
> See also, /etc/bash.bashrc line 23

Thanks for the explanation, i'll take a look.

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Re: [arch-general] mkisofs question

[gt]

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 06:18:33PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Can any options be used with mkisofs to tell it if an single image will 
> have a size larger than 1 dvd can hold, make as many additional images as 
> necessary so that everything will fit on more than a single dvd?
 
>From the mkisofs manpage:

-split-output

Split the output image into several files of approximately 1 GB.

This isn't exactly what you are looking for, but close enough.

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Re: [arch-general] elinks is unverifiable

[gt]

On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 10:43:20AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Script started on Sun Apr  1 10:40:14 2012
> [root@localhost ~]# exitpacman -Ss 
> soundsexitpacman -Sy elinks

Apart from what Christoph said, never run pacman -Sy . This can
cause trouble, as the dependencies for the package won't be updated, if
available. So run pacman -Syu separately first.

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Re: [arch-general] fake archlinux list message

[gt]

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:29:43PM +0300, George Nikolopoulos wrote:
> hi all,
> i received the attached message.
> I don't know much about email headers but it seems to have all the
> headers as if posted from arch linux servers.
> 
> Furthermore the address gerolde.archlinux.org points to an irrelevant
> page.
> [...] 

It's indeed a spam message, though i didn't receive it, assuming it was
sent to the list.

Anyway, gerolde is the name of the main arch server. You can read about
all archlinux servers here:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:DeveloperWiki:Server_Configuration

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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

[gt]

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:38:01PM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
> Right my /etc/updatedb.conf is as follows  
> # directories to exclude from the slocate database:
> PRUNEPATHS="/media /mnt /tmp /var/tmp /var/cache /var/lock /var/run 
> /var/spool /home/pete/nas /home/pete/Movies /home/pete/Music /home/pete/nas1"
> 
> # filesystems to exclude from the slocate database:
> PRUNEFS="afs auto autofs binfmt_misc cifs coda configfs cramfs debugfs
> devpts devtmpfs ftpfs iso9660 mqueue ncpfs nfs nfs4 proc ramfs
> securityfs shfs smbfs sshfs sysfs tmpfs udf usbfs vboxsf"
> 
> yet i get zero file finds for any file name that i know is definately
> on the system in a location that IS searchable

Does /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db exist? If it does, then when was the
last time it was accessed?

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Re: [arch-general] findutils and locate

[gt]

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 08:22:03AM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root locate 39512 Mar  3 05:53 /usr/bin/locate  
> 
> it is running with the default as you can see  this is getting a bit
> strange to say the least  think the next is going to be uninstall and
> reinstall it see if that helps any incase some dep has not been picked
> up automatically , The thing is there are no complaints to be seen

Remove the .db along with trying a re-install.

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Re: [arch-general] Screen locking problem in KDE

[gt]

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 10:52:54AM +0300, Dmitry Korzhevin wrote:
> Hello guys,
> 
> Please give me advice - how can i debug problem with screen locking in
> KDE? I don't find any similar problems in arch forums/mailing lists.
> This problem appeared after update.
> 
> Standart Ctrl+Alt+L doesn't work, plasma applet (screen lock) doesn't
> work too.

Does this command work?

qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock

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Re: [arch-general] PKGBUILD "provides" not handled correctly?

[gt]

On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:01:16PM -0300, Norbert Zeh wrote:
> Thanks for all your quick replies.  Immediately after firing off this email, I
> thought it would be something like this, but for some reason I didn't bother 
> to
> read the manpage :(  Some would have considered this reason enough for a RTFM
> response.  It's wonderful to see that these types of responses are very rare 
> in
> the arch community.  Again, thanks for your help.

RTFM responses aren't rare in arch community. You were just lucky :P

But, people admitting that they should have RTFM, as you did, are rare :)

Re: [arch-general] wget

[gt]

On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 12:55:59PM +0530, Debashish Saha wrote:
> are the commands are different for archlinux and linuxmint?
> i dont know, if it is so sorry for disturbing you.can u say what is
> mailling list for linuxmint?

It's not about commands. Archlinux is a different distribution than
linux mint. This list mainly involves arch related discussions.

As for linux mint mailing list:

http://librelist.com/browser/linuxmint/

(it's not an official list)

You will be better off using linux mint forums:

http://forums.linuxmint.com/

PS: Just curious, how did you land on arch mailing list? Are you using
arch too? Also, please learn to use search engines.

[arch-general] qt applications gone black

[gt]

Hey guys

I am facing a strange issue. All qt applications have become black,
making them impossible to use.

Here's an example showing vlc and avidemux-qt

https://imgur.com/a/PR5vH

Anyone else facing this issue? The closest i found someone with a
similar problem is:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/next-kde-4-8-2-regression-firefox-thunderbird-joined-the-all-blacks-942693/

But the guy is using kde, and i am using dwm + xf86-video-intel

Re: [arch-general] qt applications gone black

[gt]

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 03:28:42PM +0700, Diep Pham Van wrote:
> I have same problem before, you must install libgnomeui and change GUI
> style in qtconfig.

I had removed libgnomeui a year back, and everything was working fine in
the meantime.

Unfortunately libgnomeui fetches a lot of unnecessary gnome stuff, gvfs,
udisks2 etc. Isn't there some other solution?

Re: [arch-general] qt applications gone black

[gt]

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 10:20:13AM +0100, Paul Gideon Dann wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 May 2012 14:34:27 gt wrote:
> > Unfortunately libgnomeui fetches a lot of unnecessary gnome stuff, gvfs,
> > udisks2 etc. Isn't there some other solution?
> 
> Qt comes with qtconfig.  Have you tried that already?

Yes, tried it, as mentioned by Diep Pham Van. But, it didn't matter
whatever style i tried.

I also tried downgrading to qt 4.8.0-6, but that too didn't make a
difference.

Re: [arch-general] qt applications gone black

[gt]

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:31:08AM +0200, CodeVision wrote:
> On Wed, 9 May 2012 14:34:27 +0530
> gt  wrote:
> 
> > I had removed libgnomeui a year back, and everything was working fine
> > in the meantime.
> > 
> > Unfortunately libgnomeui fetches a lot of unnecessary gnome stuff,
> > gvfs, udisks2 etc. Isn't there some other solution?
> 
> From your picture and description, the problem you have seems similar to
> the problem I had a while ago. If the error message you get when you run
> e.g. VLC from the command line is: 
> 
> QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme.
> 
> I reckon its the same problem. As far as I know, there's no real
> solution for it, just a few workarounds. I solved it by installing
> 'gconf' [1] which has a lot less dependencies than libgnomeui. If you
> are not running gnome, you might also have to run:
> 
> gconftool-2 --set --type string /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme
> your_theme_name
> 
> For more information you can look in this forum thread [2], where I
> also got this solution from.
> 
> Hope it helps.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gconf/  or
>   http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/gconf/
> [2] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=775685

Nope my problem was different. Thanks for your help, but i finally found
a solution on the forums itself.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=93325

The last post by ecmel solves the problem for me. I had recently
borrowed .Xresources colours from someone on the forums, which were like

*.background:
*.foreground:
...

Changing them to urxvt.background, i.e., removing the wildcard solved
the problem. Who would have thought that .Xresources would be accessed
by qt, but apparently it is.

Thanks to all for the help.

Re: [arch-general] procps dependency

[gt]

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 05:59:04PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> I am trying to build and burn the archboot iso file on my x86_64 Arch.
> 
> *|[gabx@magnolia Desktop]$ sudo pacman -S archboot
> Password:
> resolving dependencies...
> warning: cannot resolve "procps>=3.2.8-4", a dependency of "archboot"
> :: The following package cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
>   archboot
> 
> Do you want to skip the above package for this upgrade? [y/N] n|*
> 
> procps-ng 3.3.2-2 is installed on my box.
> 
> ** From what I read and understand, Arch went recently from procps
> to procps-ng, so it is normal that my system doesn't have anymore
> the procps package listed as installed and I can safely ignore.
> 
> Please can someone confirm?

You should be fine. Though you should open a bug report against
archboot, as it shouldn't depend on procps, but procps-ng instead.

Re: [arch-general] wallpaper for 1920x1080 screens.

[gt]

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:06:12PM +0200, Boris Le Ninivin wrote:
> I've uploaded a bunch of variations :
> http://borisln.deviantart.com/gallery/ , feel free to distribute/use
> them :)

Nice, a color for everyone. Maybe, they should indeed be bundled into
the archlinux-wallpaper package.

> I've licensed them under a CC BY SA license, so you can even sell
> them if you want :D (But I doubt it could earn you much money :P)

Who would be cheap enough to make money off your effort, though there
are many sick people out there.

Re: [arch-general] FS#29803 - Kernel 3.3.4-2 panic

[gt]

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:56:02PM +0200, Martti Kühne wrote:
> Maybe pasting some output would help? [1]
> 
> cheers!
> mar77i
> 
> [1] http://paste.pocoo.org/

Offtopic: lodgeit died a few days back :(

Re: [arch-general] broken zip after upgrade

[gt]

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 09:52:54AM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> after a whole bunch of fresh upgrades yesterday, 2012/05/12, I can
> not unzip with File Roller (default app), with expanding tar.gz
> still working.
> 
> Here are the two error messages:
> 
> */There is no command installed for Zip archive files.
> Do you want to search for a command to open this file?/*
> 
> Then I click on search command button, it brings a new window:
> 
> */There was an internal error trying to search for applications:
> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
> org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files/*
> 
> 
> I have no certitude, but I suspect the outdated polkit 0.104 could
> be the culprit.
> 
> There is a new 0.105 version since a few weeks on the website:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/snapshot/polkit-0.105.tar.gz
> 
> Following instructions, I was able to build it fine, but I don't
> want to make install on my system, as I understand it is a good way
> to break it.
> 
> I decided to create a package following the Archwiki.
> 
> Here is my PKGBUILD file :
> 
> /*# $Id$
> # Maintainer: Jan de Groot 
> 
> pkgname=polkit
> pkgver=0.105
> pkgrel=2
> pkgdesc="Application development toolkit for controlling system-wide
> privileges"
> arch=(i686 x86_64)
> license=('LGPL')
> url="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PolicyKit";
> depends=('glib2' 'pam' 'expat')
> makedepends=('intltool' 'gtk-doc' 'gobject-introspection')
> replaces=('policykit')
> options=('!libtool')
> source=(http://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/snapshot/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz)
> 
> md5sums=('ad070a194d444fa89f627fd54a124fad')
> 
> build() {
>   cd $pkgname-$pkgver
>   autoconf
>   ./autogen.sh
>   make
> }
> 
> check() {
>   cd $pkgname-$pkgver
>   make -k check
> }
> 
> package() {
>   cd $pkgname-$pkgver
>   make DESTDIR="$pkgdir" install
> 
>   install -m644 "$srcdir/polkit.pam" "$pkgdir/etc/pam.d/polkit-1"
> }*/
> 
> I corrected the old 0.104 one according to the new changes. I have
> problem with md5sums, and have no real idea how to write the
> numbers.
> makepkg returns an error :
> 
> /*Validating source files with md5sums...
> polkit-0.105.tar.gz ... FAILED*/
> 
> 
> So 2 questions :
>  how to deal with this md5sums error?
> Once this issue is solved, can I makepkg and install on my system,
> whitout breaking anything?

You can temporarily skip the md5sum check using

$ makepkg --skipinteg

Re: [arch-general] Mirrors

[gt]

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:34:05AM +0100, P .NIKOLIC wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 08:33:46 +0100
> Leonidas Spyropoulos  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi ..
> > >
> > > I am getting lots of errors from the  mirror.lividpenguin.com
> > > stating : Given file does not exist   is this mirror having
> > > problems or should i remove it from my mirrors list  this has been
> > > an issue for best part of a week now
> > 
> > Hello Pete,
> > 
> > Maybe your chosen mirros is down or slow. Try one of the others:
> > http://www.archlinux.org/mirrors/status/
> > 
> > Hope you solve it.
> > 
> > L.
>
> Hi L 
> 
> ok thanks   thought there may be a problem that one was always
> lightening fast for me so hope it is back soon

The url leonidas posted also keeps a log of the problamatic mirrors.

Scroll to the bottom to see "Mirror Syncing Error Log" section.

You can find your lividpenguin mirror mentioned there too. So whenever
you have mirror problems, always first refer to that page.

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.3.8-1

[gt]

On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:51:26AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> Am 06.06.2012 17:13, schrieb Sudaraka Wijesinghe:
> > On 06/06/12 18:31, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >> please signoff 3.3.8 series for both arches.
> >> package is not in testing, please grab it from here:
> >> http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/
> >>
> >> This will move to [core] directly, because 3.4.1 is in [testing].
> >>
> >> greetings
> >> tpowa
> >>
> > Just installed and rebooted x86_64, all seem to be good.
> >
> anyone for i686?

I am getting the following error:

linux-headers-3.3.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz: invalid or corrupted package (PGP 
signature)

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.3.8-1

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On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 08:08:43PM +0530, Sudaraka Wijesinghe wrote:
> On 06/07/12 19:52, gt wrote:
> > 
> > I am getting the following error:
> > 
> > linux-headers-3.3.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz: invalid or corrupted package (PGP 
> > signature)
> 
> I believe you need to download the corresponding .sig file as well.
> Make sure you have the correct file, it's difficult to distinguish them
> using the name displayed on the download page without looking at the link.

pacman downloads the related .sig files from the server itself. I still
manually downloaded it to be sure. Can you confirm the md5sum of the
following files:

029cd1a8f49cdfc116c7aa9fea84db8f  linux-headers-3.3.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz
63d24b019ec4fd9a7d353cee02adc4e1  linux-headers-3.3.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz.sig

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

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On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:14:06PM -0300, Victor Silva wrote:
> Oki I reverted to the old kernel and I'm back to the old scenario how can I
> properly downgrade a kernel?
> 
> Regards and thx for the help so far guys. This community rocks.

Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don't further
need to downgrade it, as you have already downgraded it.

(Assuming, you did a pacman -U )

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown and reboot not working after last weekend update

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On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:18:17AM -0300, Victor Silva wrote:
> 2012/6/14 gt 
> > Since you have already reverted to the old kernel, you don't further
> > need to downgrade it, as you have already downgraded it.
> >
> > (Assuming, you did a pacman -U )
> >
> I did it for the kenel which hangs, the one before it does not boot as
> described on the previous posts. So somehow I need to find the last working
> configuration. Also is shutdown -F a dangerous practice? Cause this works
> for me.

from the man page, -F switch forces a fsck on reboot. So, i don't think
it is dangerous.

[arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output

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Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the
following in the dmesg output:

NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console
NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.

Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver.
But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual
console seems to be working fine.

Anyone else got a similar message in the log?

Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output

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On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 06:55:10AM +0100, Jason Steadman wrote:
> On 16 June 2012 06:46, gt  wrote:
> 
> > Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the
> > following in the dmesg output:
> >
> > NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console
> > NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
> > NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
> > NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
> > NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.
> >
> > Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver.
> > But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual
> > console seems to be working fine.
> >
> > Anyone else got a similar message in the log?
> >
> 
> UEFI install by any chance? I ask because the message correlates to
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2543252&postcount=13

Nope, no uefi. It's a pentium 4, with nvidia geforce 210 card.

Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output

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On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 01:40:08AM -0700, Don deJuan wrote:
> On 06/15/2012 11:33 PM, gt wrote:
> >On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 06:55:10AM +0100, Jason Steadman wrote:
> >>On 16 June 2012 06:46, gt  wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the
> >>>following in the dmesg output:
> >>>
> >>>NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console
> >>>NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
> >>>NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
> >>>NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
> >>>NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.
> >>>
> >>>Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver.
> >>>But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual
> >>>console seems to be working fine.
> >>>
> >>>Anyone else got a similar message in the log?
> >>>
> >>
> >>UEFI install by any chance? I ask because the message correlates to
> >>http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2543252&postcount=13
> >
> >Nope, no uefi. It's a pentium 4, with nvidia geforce 210 card.
> >
> 
> Are you also seeing this in dmesg as well?
> 
> nvidia :01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
> nvidia :01:00.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
> vgaarb: device changed decodes:
> PCI::01:00.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns=io+mem
> NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  295.59  Wed Jun  6
> 21:19:40 PDT 2012

No, i am not getting any similar message.

Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output

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On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 01:19:58PM +0300, Ionut Biru wrote:
> On 06/16/2012 08:46 AM, gt wrote:
> > Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the
> > following in the dmesg output:
> > 
> > NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console
> > NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver
> > NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console
> > NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in
> > NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported.
> > 
> > Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver.
> > But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual
> > console seems to be working fine.
> > 
> > Anyone else got a similar message in the log?
> > 
> 
> you have omitted what i the most important. your boot list parameters
> and lsmod.

boot parameter (grub legacy):

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/<> ro edd=off 
resume=/dev/sda2 vga=792


lsmod output:

Module  Size  Used by
lm85   14753  0 
hwmon_vid   2280  1 lm85
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 21248  4 
nvidia  10938779  40 
sg 20881  0 
snd_hda_codec_realtek51533  1 
snd_pcm_oss33381  0 
snd_mixer_oss  12863  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_hda_intel  20208  1 
snd_hda_codec  80701  3
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel
ppdev   4750  0 
nfs   232277  0 
nfs_acl 1931  1 nfs
snd_pcm61237  4
snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
lockd  52245  1 nfs
parport_pc 26633  0 
snd_page_alloc  5901  2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep   4746  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_timer  14902  1 snd_pcm
i2c_i8017088  0 
8139too18023  0 
snd44426  9
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss
i2c_core   16653  3 lm85,i2c_i801,nvidia
parport26095  2 ppdev,parport_pc
intel_agp   8720  0 
mii 3439  1 8139too
iTCO_wdt   10705  0 
auth_rpcgss25802  1 nfs
microcode   8825  0 
intel_gtt  11229  1 intel_agp
processor  23783  0 
button  3614  0 
iTCO_vendor_support 1545  1 iTCO_wdt
agpgart21967  3 nvidia,intel_agp,intel_gtt
soundcore   4378  2 snd
evdev   7630  4 
sunrpc153824  4 nfs,auth_rpcgss,lockd,nfs_acl
fscache36651  1 nfs
ext4  385248  4 
crc16   1091  1 ext4
jbd2   62437  1 ext4
mbcache 4345  1 ext4
usbhid 31733  0 
hid67113  1 usbhid
sd_mod 26959  7 
sr_mod 13180  0 
cdrom  30472  1 sr_mod
pata_acpi   2388  0 
ata_generic 2391  0 
uhci_hcd   19776  0 
ata_piix   18776  5 
libata146055  3 pata_acpi,ata_generic,ata_piix
scsi_mod  112541  4 sg,libata,sd_mod,sr_mod
ehci_hcd   36086  0 
usbcore   123297  4 uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd,usbhid
usb_common   622  1 usbcore

Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output

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On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:16:55AM -0700, Don deJuan wrote:
> Are you still seeing the output in the newest one that came after
> this update push? I am still seeing it. Not sure I really get what
> the issue even is.

Just upgraded to the latest driver, and yes i am still seeing it as
well. The issue is that nvidia has decided to warn people that these
framebuffer drivers may cause problems. They weren't supported earlier
too, but worked anyhow. But recently they are causing problems for some
people so nvidia thought it would be best to warn people about the use
of these drivers.

You must be having a vga= entry in your boot parameters, as do i. I
tried with vga=0 and didn't see this message.

See the following message by Uroš for more details.

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:44:10AM +, Uroš Vampl wrote:
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2561806&postcount=39
> 
> Basically, vesafb with the nvidia driver was never supported. It used to work,
> it may still work, but that's by pure chance.

Re: [arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output

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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:25:07PM -0700, Don deJuan wrote:
> On 06/18/2012 12:05 PM, Rodrigo Rivas wrote:
> >
> >GRUB2 documentation is notably difficult to read, but from
> >http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Simple-configuration.html#Simple-configuration
> >I
> >guess that the relevant option to disable this feature is to use
> >"GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text"
> >instead of "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep".
> Thanks again for your input and time to find those links to share.
> The last with text was ticket for me. No need for vga=0 with that.
> 
> The only downfall though with having to do this is if I go to a
> different TTY the text is massive, I get why it is just sucks, I
> liked having normal size text when on the terminal.
> 
> Again thank you, hopefully Nvidia will get this sorted out soon and
> can go back to the old method.

I don't think nvidia is going to sort this out, hence the warning
message. On the other hand, you can stick with the high resolution tty
for now, as it is not guaranteed to break. If it does, then you can
switch to the lower resolution.

Re: [arch-general] Arch as a web server

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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:08:02PM +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
> On 06/19/2012 11:56 AM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I plan to settle in the comimg months a web server to deliver many
> > services to the trading community (I am myself a trader).
> >
> > I daily use Arch as my system on my home box, and I must admit I am
> > very satisfied by its strength and its very active and deep involved
> > community. My plan is to first train building the website on a VM
> > server, then go to a remote dedicated server.
> >
> > Can you please give me some pro/against reasons for using Debian
> > distro rather than Archlinux as a web server? Is there any provider
> > offering Arch distro, as it seems it is hard, near impossible, to find
> > one.
> >
> > TY for your advises.
> I've been running an Arch web server for 3 years and there are
> absolutely no problems.

Can you please elaborate how you manage the regular updates, especially
kernel, udev, glibc etc. Do you hold back the upgrades to packages which
require a restart?

Re: [arch-general] create Arch based distro

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:11:15AM +0300, Δημήτρης Ζέρβας wrote:
> no, no, it was just an example...
> On Jun 20, 2012 12:08 AM, "Ike Devolder"  wrote:
> 
> > Op woensdag 20 juni 2012 00:05:01 schreef Δημήτρης Ζέρβας:
> > > chakra??
> >
> > chakra project: kde-centric originally arch based distro
> > http://www.chakra-project.org/
> >
> > a full list:
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Based_Distributions

Well i assume, you want a custom distro. Give archiso a try.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archiso

Re: [arch-general] [Offtopic] back up /var/log before shutdown

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:36:17AM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> Dear all,
> [snip]
> TY for advising.

Hello Arno

Sorry for the offtopic bit, but i have noticed that your threads tend to
branch out from some other thread, many times.

I believe that you use the reply button on an existing topic and then
start your own thread. This looks very weird and is also confusing, as i
think your message is related to the one you forked, while it is not.

Please always start a new thread ;)

Re: [arch-general] [Offtopic] back up /var/log before shutdown

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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:51:03PM +0200, Geert Hendrickx wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 14:38:27 +0530, gt wrote:
> > Hello Arno
> > [snip] 
> > Please always start a new thread ;)
> For the mutt users, just press "#" to decouple the message from the parent
> thread. :-)
> 
> 

Thanks for the advice. I knew about the feature, but never got around to
using it.

Re: [arch-general] locale variables

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On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 06:23:47PM +0200, nelsonmaram...@gmx.de wrote:
> > TY for your answer.
> > For now, I use *sdiff* to edit and merge with new *.pacnew* files.
> > I was confused this time because Thunar explorer show me local.gen as a 
> > binary! But this is not the case, so I will merge the two local.gen.
> > 
> 
> Have a closer look to the filename: there is "locale.gen", the plain text 
> file where you uncomment the entries you need. And there is "locale_gen" , 
> really a binary, which you execute after editing the locale.gen.

Actually "locale-gen" resides in /usr/sbin. So Arno wouldn't find it in
/etc.

Also, locale-gen isn't a binary either, it's a shell script.

Re: [arch-general] merging files from pacnew

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On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 06:28:15PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Arno Gaboury  
> wrote:
> > Is there a simple command line I can use, appart sdiff and Vimdiff??
> 
> if use pacdiff from pacman-contrib

AFAIK pacdiff uses vimdiff too.

@ Arno

If you are not comfortable with vimdiff, you can try meld. It is graphical,
though.

Re: [arch-general] Booting archlinux .iso to take a look

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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:24:26AM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 04:07:34AM EDT, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
> 
> [..]
> 
> > > Bit of a shame Archlinux does not provide a live environment that lets
> > > you verify you can run X11.. connect to the network.. etc.
> 
> > You can connect to the network with the live-cd, since the netinstall
> > uses the internet to download the packages.
> 
> As I mentioned in an earlier post, I only have access to a wireless
> connection at this point. With current ubuntu-based liveCD's¹ that are
> designed to demo the product, my wireless connection is available as
> soon as I'm presented with the desktop. When you boot the Archlinux
> .iso, once you're at the root prompt, you would need to extract the
> relevant packages such as wicd or network-manager et al. manually from
> the .iso before you can contemplate bringing up a wireless connection². 
> 
> Nothing wrong with that, mind you³.. The .iso is simply not designed to
> work that way.  
> 
> > Btw checkout the testiso's for more recent kernels, worked fine for me
> > in a VM.
> 
> Because the network connection from your VM to the host system is not
> a wireless connection. It emulates a standard wired connection that
> requires no exotic firmware or additional packages: aeverything you need
> to access the network is ‘in the kernel’.
> 
> I am not being critical of Archlinux from a general standpoint.. it's
> just that my circumstances are what they are and as such the .iso does
> not currently meet my requirements.
> 
> CJ
> 
> ¹ .. which means that these liveCD's ship some non-free firmware to keep
>   my wifi NIC satisfied.. 
> 
> ² .. and copy over the iwlwifi-*-ucode blobs from a /lib/firmware/ that
>   lives in another partition..
> 
> ³ .. I have the same wifi firmware problem with debian as with Archlinux
>   for instance..

Answering to your original question about trying out archlinux using a
live environment. Archlinux doesn't ship without anything but the bare
essentials to run an OS. There is no DE, GUI, default apps, etc. as all
is left to the user to decide what to use.

As has been mentioned before basically arch live cd is mainly useful for
installation and/or recovery.

There are many arch based distributions, some shipping live cds with
guis, which you can use to take for a test ride.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Based_Distributions_(Active)

[arch-general] k3b/cdrecord problem burning dual layer disc

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Hey folks

A few days ago i was trying to burn an iso to a dual layer dvd, but i
got an i/o error. Thankfully though the burn failed, but it spared the
disc :)

I tried downgrading cdrtools but that didn't fix it either. I found out
that the iso was about 4200 MB in size and apparently trying to burn it
to a dual layer dvd gave me the error.

I tried burning a larger iso, about 6500 MB to the same disc and it went
fine. Also burning the smaller iso to a single layer dvd went fine too.
So there was no problem with the iso.

So, i think there's a bug in cdrecord or maybe k3b? Trying to burn a
single layer dvd sized iso to a double layer dvd fails.

Can others confirm the same?

Re: [arch-general] A question specifically about upgrading an existing arch system from grub legacy to grub without UEFI or GPT

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On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 05:26:23PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
> I have been following the discussions in various places including on
> this list about the forthcoming change from grub to become grub-legacy
> and the default bootloader becoming grub2.
> 
> On all my arch systems I have grub with MBR partitioning, booting to
> BIOS initially - and none of my systems is modern enough to have UEFI
> instead of BIOS.
> 
> So I have been reading up on what I will need to do when grub2 version
> 2.00 appears in [core] - and how to successfully achieve the
> changeover. However I still cannot determine if it will be "necessary"
> to make sure that there is a post-MBR gap of 2MiB between the MBR and
> the first partition when the system will remain using MBR partitioning
> and grub2 will be the bootloader.  So this applies to systems with no
> GPT partitions, and no UEFI.
> 
> In my systems that have been running some time some have 64 sectors to
> where the start of the first partition is, and others have 2,000
> sectors which is about 1MiB - and I still don't know if grub2 version
> 2.00 will not work on those systems or not.  I do know that other
> distros such as Fedora version F16 have systems running successfully
> using grub2 prior to version 2.00 with MBR partitioning and BIOS and
> boot perfectly well without the 2MiB post MBR gap. Perhaps this
> changes with the release of grub2 version 2.00?
> 
> Achieving a post-MBR gap of at least 2MiB will be a painful process as
> shrinking the first partition and then moving it towards partition 2
> with an MBR partitioned disk is time consuming and not always
> successful in those systems where in the past I have adjusted the
> partitions on a drive. Maybe the recent versions of tools such as
> PartedMagic will cope better than it did a couple of years ago?
> 
> Can someone help out with a clear explanation please.  I am usually
> pretty good with upgrades and preparation but this has foxed me!  i.e.
> specifically for a BIOS-MBR hard drive using grub2 that it is vital to
> have a post-MBR gap of at least 2 MiB (where no GPT partitioning will
> be in use)?

Why do you need to upgrade to grub2? Even if grub-legacy won't be in the
official repositories, it'll be in the AUR. Also, you don't need to
reinstall grub every now and then, so i don't see the need to upgrade.

Re: [arch-general] mpd, ncmpcpp

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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:47:48PM +0200, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> Dear list
> 
> I am switching lots of my GUI apps to CLI ones.
> Currently, I am moving from Clemetine music player to ncmpcpp.
> [snip]

So, when are you switching to mutt :P

Re: [arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version

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On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 03:11:51PM +0100, andrea crotti wrote:
> I would like to create multiple arch linux installations with a
> specific (a quite old 2.6 version) kernel version.
> Is that in theory possible/easy?
> 
> I have a new one recently created but the downport doesn't seem so
> easy, so maybe it would just be easier to start with an older one,
> any suggestions??

You can theoretically do that, but you'll probably have to use older
versions of all other software too (apart from the kernel).

Take a look at

http://arm.konnichi.com/

You can manually download all the older versions of the required
software from this site, but it won't be an easy task.

Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?

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On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own
> posts to mailinglists?
> I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown.
> Thunderbird does not have this issue.
> 
> greetings
> tpowa

You don't have a "sent" or "all mail" folder/tag ?

Re: [arch-general] claws-mail is it possible to see own posts to mailinglist?

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On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:07:40PM +0530, gt wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I have a big problem with claws-mail, is it somehow possible to see own
> > posts to mailinglists?
> > I'm using gmail imap and somehow my own posts are not shown.
> > Thunderbird does not have this issue.
> > 
> > greetings
> > tpowa
> 
> You don't have a "sent" or "all mail" folder/tag ?

EDIT: Maybe this is relevant

http://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php?title=Using_Claws_with_Gmail