Re: [Alsa-user] UA-4FX problems

2007-11-21 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Isaac wrote:
> I'm having a lot of trouble with the Edirol UA-4FX USB/MIDI soundcard
> in Ubuntu Gutsy. I saw the UA-3FX listed and hoped that the 4FX would
> also work...
>
> aplay -l
>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> card 1: UA4FX [UA-4FX], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]

It's there.

> However, typing alsamixer just sends an error message that it can't
> load because there isn't a default soundcard!

The default sound card would be that at index 0.  The UA-4FX is loaded
at index 1.


Try using the sound card configuration utility of your distribution to
configure the order of sound cards.


HTH
Clemens

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Re: [Alsa-user] UA-4FX problems

2007-11-21 Thread Mark Constable
On 2007-11-21 09:58 pm, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > However, typing alsamixer just sends an error message that it can't
> > load because there isn't a default soundcard!
> 
> The default sound card would be that at index 0.  The UA-4FX is loaded
> at index 1.

ie; try -> alsamixer -c1 -Vall

and/or the venerable "cat /proc/asound/cards" to see what's loaded.

> Try using the sound card configuration utility of your distribution to
> configure the order of sound cards.

Interesting. Which distro has a "sound card configuration utility" ?

--markc

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[Alsa-user] RME HDSP 9652 no input or output PCMs displayed

2007-11-21 Thread Chris Birkinshaw
When I open alsamixer I see only controls relating to the sync and sample
rate settings for my HDSP 9652 (of which there are about 15). This includes
status displays for sample rate and sync source which are working correctly
- when I connect SPDIF this is reflected in the display. However, there are
no level controls for inputs and outputs at all. If I do an aplay -l, or
arecord -l I get the device listed, but it has no PCMs at all.

Has anyone else seen this before? The card works fine in windows.

Thanks,

Chris
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Re: [Alsa-user] RME HDSP 9652 no input or output PCMs displayed

2007-11-21 Thread Christian Schumann
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 04:50:30PM +, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
>When I open alsamixer I see only controls relating to the sync and sample
>rate settings for my HDSP 9652 (of which there are about 15). This
>includes status displays for sample rate and sync source which are working
>correctly - when I connect SPDIF this is reflected in the display.
>However, there are no level controls for inputs and outputs at all. If I
>do an aplay -l, or arecord -l I get the device listed, but it has no PCMs
>at all.
> 
>Has anyone else seen this before? The card works fine in windows.
There's a special mixer application called hdspmixer for this. It's part
of the alsa-tools package.

Regards
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Re: [Alsa-user] UA-4FX problems

2007-11-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Nov 21, 2007 7:01 AM, Mark Constable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2007-11-21 09:58 pm, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > Try using the sound card configuration utility of your distribution to
> > configure the order of sound cards.
>
> Interesting. Which distro has a "sound card configuration utility" ?
>

They all should.  For Gnome based systems it's gnome-sound-properties
(system->preferences->sound).

Lee

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Re: [Alsa-user] RME HDSP 9652 no input or output PCMs displayed

2007-11-21 Thread Chris Birkinshaw
On Nov 21, 2007 5:14 PM, Christian Schumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 04:50:30PM +, Chris Birkinshaw wrote:
> >When I open alsamixer I see only controls relating to the sync and
> sample
> >rate settings for my HDSP 9652 (of which there are about 15). This
> >includes status displays for sample rate and sync source which are
> working
> >correctly - when I connect SPDIF this is reflected in the display.
> >However, there are no level controls for inputs and outputs at all.
> If I
> >do an aplay -l, or arecord -l I get the device listed, but it has no
> PCMs
> >at all.
> >
> >Has anyone else seen this before? The card works fine in windows.
> There's a special mixer application called hdspmixer for this. It's part
> of the alsa-tools package.
>


So I can't use alsactl and amixer to restore levels from the command line?
amixer does not show any level controls either.

Do you know why there are no PCMs listed?

I wondered if it was a firmware problem, though all the messages in the
groups about that are quite old and I have a recent alsa driver. It's not
obvious what the current supported firmware version is. I can find 104 and
106 on the RME website, but nothing older.

Thanks,

Chris
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[Alsa-user] kernel: codec_read 0: semaphore is not ready for register 0x2c / Sound

2007-11-21 Thread Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz
When booting the computer , sometimes the sound works and sometimes not.
I run FC8 on a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo 1425 Laptop.
I ran Ububtu and sounds works with no problem. Also under Windows
works sound fine. I had this problem under FC6, 7 and now 8.


00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O
Controller (rev 21)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP
Controller (rev 21)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M)
USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 83)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface
Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE
Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M)
SMBus Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M)
AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350
[Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
02:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A
IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
02:0b.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1/MC1 4-in-1
MemoryCardBus Controller (rev 20)
02:0b.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1/MC1 4-in-1
MemoryCardBus Controller (rev 20)
02:0b.2 System peripheral: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711Mx 4-in-1 MemoryCardBus
Accelerator
02:0d.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG
Network Connection (rev 05)

I found the following in /var/log/messages:
When sound works:
Nov 18 18:16:14 MGPRJRWR kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured
50992 usecs
Nov 18 18:16:14 MGPRJRWR kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000
Nov 18 18:16:14 MGPRJRWR kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 10

When sound does not work:
Nov 18 12:26:30 MGPRJRWR kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured
50023 usecs
Nov 18 12:26:30 MGPRJRWR kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000
Nov 18 12:26:30 MGPRJRWR kernel: Unable to initialize codec #0

When sound does not work and I try ther system to detect the soundcard:
Nov 18 12:28:01 MGPRJRWR kernel: codec_read 0: semaphore is not ready
for register 0x2c

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Re: [Alsa-user] RME HDSP 9652 no input or output PCMs displayed

2007-11-21 Thread Roman Katzer
On 21/11/2007, Christian Schumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's a special mixer application called hdspmixer for this. It's part
> of the alsa-tools package.

hdspmixer doesn't work with hdspm cards.
One can use alsactl to set mixer levels on those.  I am not sure about amixer.

Best regards,
Roman

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Re: [Alsa-user] jack sense not working

2007-11-21 Thread Brad Milne
Hi Jonty

I've found a couple of HowTos like this one 
http://wiki.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Resolve_Problems_with_HDA-Intel_Sound_Cards,
 but making those changes (setting the model) doesn't make any difference. Is 
that the type of HowTo that helped you?

Cheers
Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Milne
Sent: Tue 11/20/2007 9:48 AM
To: J M Needham; Jonathan Stowe
Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] jack sense not working
 
Hi guys

Thanks for the fast responses!

Jonathan:- There is a headphone control, which is on or off. It doesn't work in 
either mode.

Jonty:- I have a Toshiba laptop (Tecra P5) using an intel hda card, so I'd love 
to see that howto!

lspci:
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 03)

Any other hardware info you need?

Cheers

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To: Brad Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] jack sense not working
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:36:06 +1300



What hardware are you running? I have had this problem with my toshiba
laptop using an intel hda card which I fixed using the howto (which I
can't find to post atm). Post your hardware, then we can see where we'll
get to. (and I'll try and find that link regardless.)

Jonty

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Brad Milne wrote:

> Hi
>
> I am running kernel 2.6.22-14 with Alsa 1.0.15 (in Ubuntu). The sound works 
> great, except for the headphone jack sense doesn't work at all. It works 
> normally under Windows (dual-boot), but with Linux plugging in headphones has 
> no effect - the speakers stay on and the headphones have no sound.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Brad
>

Is there a "headphone" control in alsamixer ?

/J\






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[Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O with external clock sync ?

2007-11-21 Thread Paolo Saggese
Hi everybody,

I have a question for you guys. 

(I'm new to this list and hope this is the right place to ask 
and not an FAQ... I've tried to search to see if this question 
had been answered previously, but I have been not able to find 
what I was looking for).

I'm thinking about using a dedicated (fanless, diskless, etc) 
PC as a digital source for my hi-end Hi-Fi system.

Of course I plan to use the PC only to provide a "bitperfect" 
(exact copy of the original media, normally CD) digital stream 
to an external DAC.

As you probably know better than me, the one major known problem 
when you strive for the highest possible quality in digital audio 
reproduction is jitter... and the best (if not only) way to really 
minimize it is to use a good, clean and stable clock close to the 
DAC chip, slaving everything else to that one.

Thus, what I would need to do would be to "slave" the sound card 
SPDIF output clock to the external DAC clock i.e. to make this one 
become the "master clock" for the whole digital audio stream.

AFAIK, one possible way to do this is to set up a "fake" SPDIF 
output from the external DAC and connect it to an input of the 
sound card whose SPDIF output goes to the DAC for conversion.

Of course the sound card must be able to "slave" (synchronize) 
its SPDIF output clock with the one coming from its SPDIF input.

(BTW: are there other -perhaps easier and/or better- ways to do 
what I would like to do?)


Thus, I would need a sound card which must be:

* cabable of "bitperfect" (pass through) operation at CD standard
16bit/44.1KHz (as well as, possibly, also at higher resolutions and 
sample rates such as 16/48, 24/48, 24/96 and 24/192).

* capable of "slaving" its SPDIF output clock to an external one, 
such as the one reconstructed from its SPDIF input.

...last but not least, of course all of this must be done on Linux,
thus the sound card must be fully supported by ALSA! 8-)

Well, yet another requirement is... that it should possibly (and 
hopefully) not cost me a fortune! $-)


Thanks in advance for your attention.


Ciao e grazie,
Paolo.

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Re: [Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O with external clock sync ?

2007-11-21 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:33:39 +0100
Paolo Saggese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> 
> I have a question for you guys. 
> 
> (I'm new to this list and hope this is the right place to ask 
> and not an FAQ... I've tried to search to see if this question 
> had been answered previously, but I have been not able to find 
> what I was looking for).
> 
> I'm thinking about using a dedicated (fanless, diskless, etc) 
> PC as a digital source for my hi-end Hi-Fi system.
> 
> Of course I plan to use the PC only to provide a "bitperfect" 
> (exact copy of the original media, normally CD) digital stream 
> to an external DAC.
> 
> As you probably know better than me, the one major known problem 
> when you strive for the highest possible quality in digital audio 
> reproduction is jitter... and the best (if not only) way to really 
> minimize it is to use a good, clean and stable clock close to the 
> DAC chip, slaving everything else to that one.
> 
> Thus, what I would need to do would be to "slave" the sound card 
> SPDIF output clock to the external DAC clock i.e. to make this one 
> become the "master clock" for the whole digital audio stream.
> 
> AFAIK, one possible way to do this is to set up a "fake" SPDIF 
> output from the external DAC and connect it to an input of the 
> sound card whose SPDIF output goes to the DAC for conversion.
> 
> Of course the sound card must be able to "slave" (synchronize) 
> its SPDIF output clock with the one coming from its SPDIF input.
> 
> (BTW: are there other -perhaps easier and/or better- ways to do 
> what I would like to do?)
> 
> 
> Thus, I would need a sound card which must be:
> 
> * cabable of "bitperfect" (pass through) operation at CD standard
> 16bit/44.1KHz (as well as, possibly, also at higher resolutions and 
> sample rates such as 16/48, 24/48, 24/96 and 24/192).
> 
> * capable of "slaving" its SPDIF output clock to an external one, 
> such as the one reconstructed from its SPDIF input.
> 
> last but not least, of course all of this must be done on Linux,
> thus the sound card must be fully supported by ALSA! 8-)
> 
> Well, yet another requirement is... that it should possibly (and 
> hopefully) not cost me a fortune! $-)
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your attention.
> 
> 
> Ciao e grazie,
> Paolo.
> 
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Extracting data digitally from CD is unrelated to soundcard.

Perform web search for 'cdparanoia'.

In fact, if you want reliable sound, first transfer data from _all_ your
audio CDs to HD and then play it from there.

Regarding soundcard and syncrhonization - M-Audio Revolution 7.1, and
quite possibly M-Audio Revolution allow you to use external clock
source.

I have never used SPDIFF myself though.

Regards,
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Re: [Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O with external clock sync ?

2007-11-21 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:19:58 +0200
Sergei Steshenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Regarding soundcard and syncrhonization - M-Audio Revolution 7.1, and
> quite possibly M-Audio Revolution allow you to use external clock
> source.
> 

I meant "M-Audio Revolution 7.1, and quite possibly M-Audio Revolution 5.1
allow you to use external clock source.

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Re: [Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O with external clock sync ?

2007-11-21 Thread Bill Unruh
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Sergei Steshenko wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:33:39 +0100
> Paolo Saggese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I have a question for you guys.
>>
>> (I'm new to this list and hope this is the right place to ask
>> and not an FAQ... I've tried to search to see if this question
>> had been answered previously, but I have been not able to find
>> what I was looking for).
>>
>> I'm thinking about using a dedicated (fanless, diskless, etc)
>> PC as a digital source for my hi-end Hi-Fi system.
>>
>> Of course I plan to use the PC only to provide a "bitperfect"
>> (exact copy of the original media, normally CD) digital stream
>> to an external DAC.
>>
>> As you probably know better than me, the one major known problem
>> when you strive for the highest possible quality in digital audio
>> reproduction is jitter... and the best (if not only) way to really
>> minimize it is to use a good, clean and stable clock close to the
>> DAC chip, slaving everything else to that one.

The clock jitter tends to be in the ppm range. This means that the
frequency jitter is very low (if I believe the ppm then at the level of -120dB) 
which is completely inaudible. My cheap Transit card reliably gives me noise 
levels of the order of -90db below the level of the signal, again
inaudible.

>>
>> Thus, what I would need to do would be to "slave" the sound card
>> SPDIF output clock to the external DAC clock i.e. to make this one
>> become the "master clock" for the whole digital audio stream.

SPDIF is a digital output stream. Its "clock" is irelevant. The clock on
the machine that converts that stream to analog is the important one.


>>
>> AFAIK, one possible way to do this is to set up a "fake" SPDIF
>> output from the external DAC and connect it to an input of the
>> sound card whose SPDIF output goes to the DAC for conversion.



>>
>> Of course the sound card must be able to "slave" (synchronize)
>> its SPDIF output clock with the one coming from its SPDIF input.
>>
>> (BTW: are there other -perhaps easier and/or better- ways to do
>> what I would like to do?)
>>
>>
>> Thus, I would need a sound card which must be:
>>
>> * cabable of "bitperfect" (pass through) operation at CD standard
>> 16bit/44.1KHz (as well as, possibly, also at higher resolutions and
>> sample rates such as 16/48, 24/48, 24/96 and 24/192).

bit perfect digitial operation is trivial Almost anything can do that.
Computers do it at GHz frequencies so 96KHZ is completely and totally
trivial. The only crucial thing is the Digital to analog converter.


>>
>> * capable of "slaving" its SPDIF output clock to an external one,
>> such as the one reconstructed from its SPDIF input.
>>
>> last but not least, of course all of this must be done on Linux,
>> thus the sound card must be fully supported by ALSA! 8-)
>>
>> Well, yet another requirement is... that it should possibly (and
>> hopefully) not cost me a fortune! $-)
>>
>>
> Extracting data digitally from CD is unrelated to soundcard.
>
> Perform web search for 'cdparanoia'.
>
> In fact, if you want reliable sound, first transfer data from _all_ your
> audio CDs to HD and then play it from there.
>
> Regarding soundcard and syncrhonization - M-Audio Revolution 7.1, and
> quite possibly M-Audio Revolution allow you to use external clock
> source.
>
> I have never used SPDIFF myself though.

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