[AFMUG] “ADSS”

[Adam Moffett]

There’s something driving me nuts lately.

In your minds, does the term ADSS apply to *any* non-conducting, self 
supporting cable?  Or does it apply more specifically to an OSP cable a central 
strength member and a concentric layer of aramid under the jacket?

There’s an entire department at our company which keeps referring to 12F loose 
tube service drop cable as “ADSS”.  I tried explaining that it’s not the same 
thing, and they’ve argued that it is.  My position is that if I order an aerial 
service drop cable without any metallic components then it meets the literal 
meaning of “All Dielectric Self Supporting”, but that ADSS refers more narrowly 
to a specific cable which has different attachment hardware and different 
installation methods.  I’ve further suggested that calling drop cable “ADSS” is 
going to cause confusion among vendors and contractors if it hasn’t already.

Am I the crazy one?
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Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”

[Adam Moffett]

One example where I know this was an issue was when an Elco we hadn’t dealt 
with before was given construction drawings identifying a number of loose tube 
drop cables as “ADSS”.  The Elco designed make-ready plans assuming we wanted 
to attach in the secondary power space.  We had to have them go back and 
redesign after clarifying that.

I don’t know if there have been other problems, but I can imagine some that 
might happen.


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I suppose they're technically correct, but it does seem like a misuse of the 
term to me as well.

On Saturday, October 19, 2024, Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> There’s something driving me nuts lately.
> In your minds, does the term ADSS apply to *any* non-conducting, self 
> supporting cable?  Or does it apply more specifically to an OSP cable a 
> central strength member and a concentric layer of aramid under the jacket?
> There’s an entire department at our company which keeps referring to 12F 
> loose tube service drop cable as “ADSS”.  I tried explaining that it’s not 
> the same thing, and they’ve argued that it is.  My position is that if I 
> order an aerial service drop cable without any metallic components then it 
> meets the literal meaning of “All Dielectric Self Supporting”, but that ADSS 
> refers more narrowly to a specific cable which has different attachment 
> hardware and different installation methods.  I’ve further suggested that 
> calling drop cable “ADSS” is going to cause confusion among vendors and 
> contractors if it hasn’t already.
> Am I the crazy one?
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Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”

[Jason McKemie]

I suppose they're technically correct, but it does seem like a misuse of
the term to me as well.

On Saturday, October 19, 2024, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> There’s something driving me nuts lately.
> In your minds, does the term ADSS apply to *any* non-conducting, self
supporting cable?  Or does it apply more specifically to an OSP cable a
central strength member and a concentric layer of aramid under the jacket?
> There’s an entire department at our company which keeps referring to 12F
loose tube service drop cable as “ADSS”.  I tried explaining that it’s not
the same thing, and they’ve argued that it is.  My position is that if I
order an aerial service drop cable without any metallic components then it
meets the literal meaning of “All Dielectric Self Supporting”, but that
ADSS refers more narrowly to a specific cable which has different
attachment hardware and different installation methods.  I’ve further
suggested that calling drop cable “ADSS” is going to cause confusion among
vendors and contractors if it hasn’t already.
> Am I the crazy one?
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Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”

[chuck]

Good question.  I always presumed it referred to self supporting drops that can 
be installed using p clamps.  In my mind it was that one specific type of 
aerial fiber drop.  

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 9:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] “ADSS”

There’s something driving me nuts lately.

In your minds, does the term ADSS apply to *any* non-conducting, self 
supporting cable?  Or does it apply more specifically to an OSP cable a central 
strength member and a concentric layer of aramid under the jacket?

There’s an entire department at our company which keeps referring to 12F loose 
tube service drop cable as “ADSS”.  I tried explaining that it’s not the same 
thing, and they’ve argued that it is.  My position is that if I order an aerial 
service drop cable without any metallic components then it meets the literal 
meaning of “All Dielectric Self Supporting”, but that ADSS refers more narrowly 
to a specific cable which has different attachment hardware and different 
installation methods.  I’ve further suggested that calling drop cable “ADSS” is 
going to cause confusion among vendors and contractors if it hasn’t already.

Am I the crazy one?



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Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

[Jan-GAMs]

I built an entire grid of these, very reliable.  UISP is free for 
monitoring.  Just got to remember to use backup power in rural areas for 
backhaul components.


On 10/14/24 20:00, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Well, you could use these:

https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/loco5ac

I would not use first gen or M series Nanostations, too many problems 
(lockups, tape over LEDs degrading from UV and letting in rain, etc.)  
Even the AC series which are much improved have some quirks, sometimes 
they get flaky if you run them at the low end of U-NII-1 like 5180 MHz.


We have switched to using ePMP Force 300-16 for short links between 
buildings, but partly for the cnMaestro cloud management if they are 
hidden behind a customer managed router.  They are like 3 times the 
cost of a NS5AC Loco, but when comparing keep in mind the ePMP radio 
includes a POE, the Nanostation does not.  The Loco is much smaller, 
like a bar of soap, than the F300-16 which is like an oversized 
rearview mirror.


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365 feet from my garage.  Needs to be wireless.  Connecting to the web 
browser in an RMS200 telemetry board.  10 mbps would probably work.  
Prefer 100.  Like to have an all in one radio/antenna.  POE.  Pair of 
Nanostations would probably do the job.


Not sure if there is something better out there.  Of course like to 
keep it under $10K...


Best Regards,
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Drive
Lake Point, Utah 84074

801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell

www mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro 
www.terabitnetworks.com 

*From:*Robert

*Sent:*Monday, October 14, 2024 7:43 PM

*To:*af@af.afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

  Power?  LOS? So many devils in the details...  Desired B/W? 
Budget?..   Come on Chuck, cough up some more info!


On 10/14/24 5:59 PM, ch...@go-mtc.com wrote:

I am thinking of a couple of nano or pico type radios.  Been a
while since I deployed anything like this.

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Drive
Lake Point, Utah 84074

801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell

www mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro 
www.terabitnetworks.com 

*From:*TJ Trout

*Sent:*Monday, October 14, 2024 6:45 PM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

There's a new 900mhz based 802.11 something for low bw long range iot

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 5:37 PM Chuck  wrote:

It is to a pump house on the neighbor's lot.

Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 14, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof 
wrote:



Not new, and I haven’t used them, but there’s this:

https://mikrotik.com/product/gper

Could you use powerline networking? I’ve used these:


https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Wi-Fi-Extender-TL-WPA7617KIT/dp/B09L85MFNY

but you could probably use something like this since you
don’t need WiFi:


https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter-Extender-TP-Link/dp/B084CZMYNM

This assumes the telemetry board location is on a branch
circuit from the same electrical panel as the house, and
that it is indoors.

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Need to connect a telemetry board to my house home network.

Extending the LAN.  Probably 750 feet away.

Anything new or better these days for this type of thing?

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Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

[Jan-GAMs]

Who makes this "new" 900Mhz BW?

On 10/14/24 17:45, TJ Trout wrote:

There's a new 900mhz based 802.11 something for low bw long range iot

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 5:37 PM Chuck  wrote:

It is to a pump house on the neighbor's lot.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:



Not new, and I haven’t used them, but there’s this:

https://mikrotik.com/product/gper

Could you use powerline networking?  I’ve used these:


https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Wi-Fi-Extender-TL-WPA7617KIT/dp/B09L85MFNY

but you could probably use something like this since you don’t
need WiFi:


https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter-Extender-TP-Link/dp/B084CZMYNM

This assumes the telemetry board location is on a branch circuit
from the same electrical panel as the house, and that it is indoors.

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*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Extending home network

Need to connect a telemetry board to my house home network.

Extending the LAN.  Probably 750 feet away.

Anything new or better these days for this type of thing?

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Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

[Ken Hohhof]

I assume he’s talking about 802.11ah.

https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-certified-halow

If I do a Google search, I get results like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-802-11ah-High-Gain-Ethernet-Transmission/dp/B0CDZF7DVH

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 4:08 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

 

Who makes this "new" 900Mhz BW?  

On 10/14/24 17:45, TJ Trout wrote:

There's a new 900mhz based 802.11 something for low bw long range iot

 

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 5:37 PM Chuck mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> 
> wrote:

It is to a pump house on the neighbor's lot.

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 14, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

 

Not new, and I haven’t used them, but there’s this:

https://mikrotik.com/product/gper

 

Could you use powerline networking?  I’ve used these:

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Wi-Fi-Extender-TL-WPA7617KIT/dp/B09L85MFNY

but you could probably use something like this since you don’t need WiFi:

https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter-Extender-TP-Link/dp/B084CZMYNM

This assumes the telemetry board location is on a branch circuit from the same 
electrical panel as the house, and that it is indoors.

 

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Of ch...@go-mtc.com  
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Subject: [AFMUG] Extending home network

 

Need to connect a telemetry board to my house home network.  

Extending the LAN.  Probably 750 feet away.  

 

Anything new or better these days for this type of thing?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

[Jan-GAMs]

These take me back to the days of potato-chip cans, tupperware, and 
tin-foil, thanks for finding them.  I'm just connecting cameras for a 
security system, 16Mbps is way more than enough.  I need directional 
communication between two points, through woods and rated for 
rain/outdoors.  A nanostation 900 (nsm900) would be preferred but they 
don't make them anymore.


I was hoping the "new" 900 bw radio was referring to an 802.11 outdoor 
radio suitable for ethernet directional links.


On 10/19/24 14:17, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I assume he’s talking about 802.11ah.

https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-certified-halow

If I do a Google search, I get results like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-802-11ah-High-Gain-Ethernet-Transmission/dp/B0CDZF7DVH

*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
*Sent:* Saturday, October 19, 2024 4:08 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

Who makes this "new" 900Mhz BW?

On 10/14/24 17:45, TJ Trout wrote:

There's a new 900mhz based 802.11 something for low bw long range iot

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 5:37 PM Chuck  wrote:

It is to a pump house on the neighbor's lot.

Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 14, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof 
wrote:



Not new, and I haven’t used them, but there’s this:

https://mikrotik.com/product/gper

Could you use powerline networking?  I’ve used these:


https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Wi-Fi-Extender-TL-WPA7617KIT/dp/B09L85MFNY

but you could probably use something like this since you
don’t need WiFi:


https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter-Extender-TP-Link/dp/B084CZMYNM

This assumes the telemetry board location is on a branch
circuit from the same electrical panel as the house, and
that it is indoors.

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Need to connect a telemetry board to my house home network.

Extending the LAN.  Probably 750 feet away.

Anything new or better these days for this type of thing?

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Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”

[Jan-GAMs]

What does the manufacturer have to say?

On 10/19/24 08:48, Adam Moffett wrote:

There’s something driving me nuts lately.

In your minds, does the term ADSS apply to *any* non-conducting, self 
supporting cable?  Or does it apply more specifically to an OSP cable 
a central strength member and a concentric layer of aramid under the 
jacket?


There’s an entire department at our company which keeps referring to 
12F loose tube service drop cable as “ADSS”.  I tried explaining that 
it’s not the same thing, and they’ve argued that it is.  My position 
is that if I order an aerial service drop cable without any metallic 
components then it meets the literal meaning of “All Dielectric Self 
Supporting”, but that ADSS refers more narrowly to a specific cable 
which has different attachment hardware and different installation 
methods.  I’ve further suggested that calling drop cable “ADSS” is 
going to cause confusion among vendors and contractors if it hasn’t 
already.


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Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”

[Jason McKemie]

I exclusively use ADSS for my aerial plant. Much easier to put up, and you
don't have to deal with strand or lashing. The option for having it in the
power space can be nice as well. The attachment hardware is similar to what
you use for guy wire dead ends, along with what you show above for
straighter spans where you don't need fiber access, it is pretty specific
to the cable size. The hardware is a bit pricey, not too bad though.

On Saturday, October 19, 2024, Adam Moffett  wrote:
> When I search for ADSS cable I get this type:
> 
>
> They attach with hangers that grip a wide area around the cable like this
one:
> 
>
> When you say ADSS that’s what I’m picturing.
> That attachment hardware is expensive.  The cable itself is expensive.
I’ve never worked with it but everyone says it’s more difficult.  You use
it because you can get the fiber count of an OSP cable without having a
strand.  Some Elco’s will allow it in the power space.  You need installers
qualified to work in the power space, but sometimes people find that
preferable to make ready to make room in the comm space.
> So in my mind ADSS is a specific thing with a specific purpose.  I
suspect drop cable predates that stuff and people are applying the term to
drop cable retroactively because most aerial drop cable meets the literal
definition of the words. Usually being the important word there because you
can order service drop cable which isn’t all dielectric and self
supporting.
>
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> From: AF  on behalf of Jan-GAMs <
j.vank...@grnacres.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 4:31:04 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”
>
> What does the manufacturer have to say?
>
> On 10/19/24 08:48, Adam Moffett wrote:
>> There’s something driving me nuts lately.
>>
>> In your minds, does the term ADSS apply to *any* non-conducting, self
>> supporting cable?  Or does it apply more specifically to an OSP cable
>> a central strength member and a concentric layer of aramid under the
>> jacket?
>>
>> There’s an entire department at our company which keeps referring to
>> 12F loose tube service drop cable as “ADSS”.  I tried explaining that
>> it’s not the same thing, and they’ve argued that it is.  My position
>> is that if I order an aerial service drop cable without any metallic
>> components then it meets the literal meaning of “All Dielectric Self
>> Supporting”, but that ADSS refers more narrowly to a specific cable
>> which has different attachment hardware and different installation
>> methods.  I’ve further suggested that calling drop cable “ADSS” is
>> going to cause confusion among vendors and contractors if it hasn’t
>> already.
>>
>> Am I the crazy one?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

[Ken Hohhof]

It looks like Cambium made a PTP version of the 900 MHz 450, if you can find 
some, and the dual yagi antennas.

 

Sub 1 GHz isn’t that useful if it’s unlicensed, especially if there’s 
interference from FHSS smartmeters.  And low FSL and goes through foliage means 
you can see interference from everyone and everywhere.   And directional is 
difficult to achieve at that frequency.  And if the installer’s body is within 
3 feet of the antenna it throws it off so you can’t aim it.  And not really 
enough spectrum to carry video.  Other than that, 900 MHz is just peachy.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chris Fabien
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 8:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

 

There are a few NSM900 and Rocket M900 up on ebay, prices look like about what 
they cost new 10 years ago! 

We sold our M900 gear for surprising prices when we pulled it all out maybe 4 
yrs ago. 

 

On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 5:58 PM Jan-GAMs mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net> > wrote:

These take me back to the days of potato-chip cans, tupperware, and tin-foil, 
thanks for finding them.  I'm just connecting cameras for a security system, 
16Mbps is way more than enough.  I need directional communication between two 
points, through woods and rated for rain/outdoors.  A nanostation 900 (nsm900) 
would be preferred but they don't make them anymore.

I was hoping the "new" 900 bw radio was referring to an 802.11 outdoor radio 
suitable for ethernet directional links.

On 10/19/24 14:17, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I assume he’s talking about 802.11ah.

https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-certified-halow

If I do a Google search, I get results like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-802-11ah-High-Gain-Ethernet-Transmission/dp/B0CDZF7DVH

 

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 4:08 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

 

Who makes this "new" 900Mhz BW?  

On 10/14/24 17:45, TJ Trout wrote:

There's a new 900mhz based 802.11 something for low bw long range iot

 

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 5:37 PM Chuck mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> 
> wrote:

It is to a pump house on the neighbor's lot.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 14, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

 

Not new, and I haven’t used them, but there’s this:

https://mikrotik.com/product/gper

 

Could you use powerline networking?  I’ve used these:

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Wi-Fi-Extender-TL-WPA7617KIT/dp/B09L85MFNY

but you could probably use something like this since you don’t need WiFi:

https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter-Extender-TP-Link/dp/B084CZMYNM

This assumes the telemetry board location is on a branch circuit from the same 
electrical panel as the house, and that it is indoors.

 

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Of ch...@go-mtc.com  
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2024 7:03 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] Extending home network

 

Need to connect a telemetry board to my house home network.  

Extending the LAN.  Probably 750 feet away.  

 

Anything new or better these days for this type of thing?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

[Ken Hohhof]

More techie stuff:

 

 https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/the-lowdown-on-wi-fi-halow/

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 4:18 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

 

I assume he’s talking about 802.11ah.

https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-certified-halow

If I do a Google search, I get results like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-802-11ah-High-Gain-Ethernet-Transmission/dp/B0CDZF7DVH

 

 

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Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 4:08 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

 

Who makes this "new" 900Mhz BW?  

On 10/14/24 17:45, TJ Trout wrote:

There's a new 900mhz based 802.11 something for low bw long range iot

 

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 5:37 PM Chuck mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> 
> wrote:

It is to a pump house on the neighbor's lot.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Oct 14, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

 

Not new, and I haven’t used them, but there’s this:

https://mikrotik.com/product/gper

 

Could you use powerline networking?  I’ve used these:

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Wi-Fi-Extender-TL-WPA7617KIT/dp/B09L85MFNY

but you could probably use something like this since you don’t need WiFi:

https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter-Extender-TP-Link/dp/B084CZMYNM

This assumes the telemetry board location is on a branch circuit from the same 
electrical panel as the house, and that it is indoors.

 

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Subject: [AFMUG] Extending home network

 

Need to connect a telemetry board to my house home network.  

Extending the LAN.  Probably 750 feet away.  

 

Anything new or better these days for this type of thing?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

[Chris Fabien]

There are a few NSM900 and Rocket M900 up on ebay, prices look like about
what they cost new 10 years ago!
We sold our M900 gear for surprising prices when we pulled it all out maybe
4 yrs ago.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 5:58 PM Jan-GAMs  wrote:

> These take me back to the days of potato-chip cans, tupperware, and
> tin-foil, thanks for finding them.  I'm just connecting cameras for a
> security system, 16Mbps is way more than enough.  I need directional
> communication between two points, through woods and rated for
> rain/outdoors.  A nanostation 900 (nsm900) would be preferred but they
> don't make them anymore.
>
> I was hoping the "new" 900 bw radio was referring to an 802.11 outdoor
> radio suitable for ethernet directional links.
> On 10/19/24 14:17, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> I assume he’s talking about 802.11ah.
>
> https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-certified-halow
>
> If I do a Google search, I get results like this:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-802-11ah-High-Gain-Ethernet-Transmission/dp/B0CDZF7DVH
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 19, 2024 4:08 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network
>
>
>
> Who makes this "new" 900Mhz BW?
>
> On 10/14/24 17:45, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> There's a new 900mhz based 802.11 something for low bw long range iot
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 5:37 PM Chuck  wrote:
>
> It is to a pump house on the neighbor's lot.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Not new, and I haven’t used them, but there’s this:
>
> https://mikrotik.com/product/gper
>
>
>
> Could you use powerline networking?  I’ve used these:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Wi-Fi-Extender-TL-WPA7617KIT/dp/B09L85MFNY
>
> but you could probably use something like this since you don’t need WiFi:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter-Extender-TP-Link/dp/B084CZMYNM
>
> This assumes the telemetry board location is on a branch circuit from the
> same electrical panel as the house, and that it is indoors.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2024 7:03 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Extending home network
>
>
>
> Need to connect a telemetry board to my house home network.
>
> Extending the LAN.  Probably 750 feet away.
>
>
>
> Anything new or better these days for this type of thing?
>
>
>
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