Re: [AFMUG] Buffer tube breakout kit
I’ve never seen such an animal. Inside a cabinet I’d normally say the buffer tube itself is good enough protection. We’ve been using a FiberOne cassette system which has a door on the rear. OSP cable goes into the panel, and the buffer tubes all end up behind the door. I don’t know how they compare to Clearfield. I’d also wonder if there’s a cover or housing you can screw onto the back side of the rack behind your cassette system. Just cover the buffer tubes with steel. Maybe something like this: https://www.racksolutions.com/front-cover-for-open-frame-wall-mount-rack.html There’s a way I terminated loose tube drop cable. In the drop cable scenario it’s furcation tubing over the 250um and a heat shrink tube to join the furcation tube with the buffer tube, and then a bigger heat shrink tube to join the drop cable jacket to the smaller heat shrink. Then obviously an SOC or what have you goes at the end of the furcation tube. It works out well for the drop cable. For a similar thing with the buffer tubes you could source a roll of 2.5mm to 3mm ID tubing of whatever kind of plastic you like. If you get clear tubing you could still see the color of buffer tube. A 3mm ID tubing would have a 5mm OD. A bundle of twelve 5mm tubes would have a 20mm OD. Almost twice as big as a 144F OSP cable itself, but a 4:1 heatshrink tube should be able to squish down on all of it. The adhesive heat shrink is quite stiff after shrinking so it would prevent that joint from bending much…..which is desirable I think. Never done that, but I think it would work. I’m gonna circle back to why though? You got monkeys playing in the fiber cabinet? From: AF On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 6:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Buffer tube breakout kit I'm looking for a kit to break out / protect individual buffer tunes on their way to a clearfield patch and splice cassette. Just something to clamp on the end or the cable and protect the buffer tubes on the way to the cassettes inside the cabinet, not to breakout the individual fibers. Like a spider kit except just to feed the buffer tubes into. Anyone know of anything like this? -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Symmetra RM intelligence modules
I have a Symmetra RM unit (16kw) that is ancient. We got it used around 2008. It has a Main Intelligence Module, and a Redundant Intelligence module. The Main intelligence module has reported a failure. None of the LED's on it are lit. The redundant module has LED's, but none of the front panel LCD options report any data, nor does the Web management card. I was able to source a replacement intelligence module, but everything that I find says to put the UPS into bypass before changing it. However, the UPS will not go to software bypass via the front display. Can I just flip the big bypass switch without doing a software bypass first? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Headphones and earbuds
I warned an employee wearing noise cancelling earphones that they were a safety hazard yesterday. Today I noticed he had them on again, I pointed to his ear. He went off on me, complaining that everyone else had earbuds. I told him that many times I started talking to him and he either acted like he was not hearing anything or he chose to ignore me. Yadda y adda, yadda. He quit a few minutes later. Good worker but lousy attitude. 43 years old and had worked about 20 different places. So I adopted an open ears policy. If I am the asshole, that is fine. I am a boomer and proud of it. Whadya y’all think? Should Employees Be Allowed to Wear Earbuds? Currently, the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) does not have guidelines on earbud use in the workplace. However, OSHA has issued recommendations regarding earbud use while on the job. Of course, wearing earbuds in some work environments poses more of a threat than in others. Earbud Dangers The dangers of wearing earbuds while on the job are similar to non-employment use of these devices. People wearing earbuds simply cannot hear emergency signals, but it goes beyond that. Overall, earbuds may pose a safety hazard because the employee is less cognizant of their surroundings and is not paying attention to their safety. No Earbuds Allowed OSHA urges employers to forbidTop of Form Bottom of Form the use of earbuds when workers are operating any sort of heavy equipment. Anyone working on a manufacturing or construction site where heavy equipment is used should not have earbuds, headphones, or similar devices on their heads. For example, even if the forklift operator is not wearing earbuds, a fellow employee in the vicinity using these devices could end up getting hit if they cannot hear the machine. Along with earbuds, the same warnings hold true for smartphones. Manufacturing machinery such as milling machines emit noises that indicate problem conditions or unsafe conditions. Operators of machines need to be able to hear what is going on with the machine. Other Earbud Risks In most manufacturing industries, various energy-related hazards exist. These may include chemical, electrical, or fire hazards. Failure to hear a warning device due to earbud use not only puts that employee at risk if they cannot hear warnings from coworkers but may be at risk as earbuds also affect evacuations or the realization that equipment is not functioning properly. For maximum safety, no employee in a manufacturing setting should wear earbuds, even if they are not in an area of heavy equipment use. That includes those working in warehouses. Earbuds are never a substitute for any type of hearing protection on the job. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Headphones and earbuds
I don’t see why that would be a “boomer” related issue. I assume you’re talking about a manufacturing floor or warehouse. You need to hear the backup beeper on the forklift. You need to hear an overload alarm on your machine. You need to hear someone shouting “Shut it off! Johnny’s arm is stuck in there!” If a person of any age can’t understand that then they’re a moron. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, May 12, 2023 2:26 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: [AFMUG] Headphones and earbuds I warned an employee wearing noise cancelling earphones that they were a safety hazard yesterday. Today I noticed he had them on again, I pointed to his ear. He went off on me, complaining that everyone else had earbuds. I told him that many times I started talking to him and he either acted like he was not hearing anything or he chose to ignore me. Yadda y adda, yadda. He quit a few minutes later. Good worker but lousy attitude. 43 years old and had worked about 20 different places. So I adopted an open ears policy. If I am the asshole, that is fine. I am a boomer and proud of it. Whadya y’all think? Should Employees Be Allowed to Wear Earbuds? _ Currently, the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) does not have guidelines on earbud use in the workplace. However, OSHA has issued recommendations regarding earbud use while on the job. Of course, wearing earbuds in some work environments poses more of a threat than in others. Earbud Dangers The dangers of wearing earbuds while on the job are similar to non-employment use of these devices. People wearing earbuds simply cannot hear emergency signals, but it goes beyond that. Overall, earbuds may pose a safety hazard because the employee is less cognizant of their surroundings and is not paying attention to their safety. No Earbuds Allowed OSHA urges employers to forbidTop of Form Bottom of Form the use of earbuds when workers are operating any sort of heavy equipment. Anyone working on a manufacturing or construction site where heavy equipment is used should not have earbuds, headphones, or similar devices on their heads. For example, even if the forklift operator is not wearing earbuds, a fellow employee in the vicinity using these devices could end up getting hit if they cannot hear the machine. Along with earbuds, the same warnings hold true for smartphones. Manufacturing machinery such as milling machines emit noises that indicate problem conditions or unsafe conditions. Operators of machines need to be able to hear what is going on with the machine. Other Earbud Risks In most manufacturing industries, various energy-related hazards exist. These may include chemical, electrical, or fire hazards. Failure to hear a warning device due to earbud use not only puts that employee at risk if they cannot hear warnings from coworkers but may be at risk as earbuds also affect evacuations or the realization that equipment is not functioning properly. For maximum safety, no employee in a manufacturing setting should wear earbuds, even if they are not in an area of heavy equipment use. That includes those working in warehouses. Earbuds are never a substitute for any type of hearing protection on the job. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Headphones and earbuds
How dare you, Wearing earbuds is equivalent to putting up a 'do not disturb' sign. He didn't not want to be bothered, and clearly you were bothering him, probably by wanting him to do work. On 5/12/2023 1:25 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I warned an employee wearing noise cancelling earphones that they were a safety hazard yesterday. Today I noticed he had them on again, I pointed to his ear. He went off on me, complaining that everyone else had earbuds. I told him that many times I started talking to him and he either acted like he was not hearing anything or he chose to ignore me. Yadda y adda, yadda. He quit a few minutes later. Good worker but lousy attitude. 43 years old and had worked about 20 different places. So I adopted an open ears policy. If I am the asshole, that is fine. I am a boomer and proud of it. Whadya y’all think? *Should Employees Be Allowed to Wear Earbuds?* Currently, the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) does not have guidelines on earbud use in the workplace. However, OSHA has issued recommendations regarding earbud use while on the job. Of course, wearing earbuds in some work environments poses more of a threat than in others. Earbud Dangers The dangers of wearing earbuds while on the job are similar to non-employment use of these devices. People wearing earbuds simply cannot hear emergency signals, but it goes beyond that. Overall, earbuds may pose a safety hazard because the employee is less cognizant of their surroundings and is not paying attention to their safety. No Earbuds Allowed OSHA urges employers to forbidTop of Form Bottom of Form the use of earbuds when workers are operating any sort of heavy equipment. Anyone working on a manufacturing or construction site where heavy equipment is used should not have earbuds, headphones, or similar devices on their heads. For example, even if the forklift operator is not wearing earbuds, a fellow employee in the vicinity using these devices could end up getting hit if they cannot hear the machine. Along with earbuds, the same warnings hold true for smartphones.Manufacturing machinery such as milling machines emit noises that indicate problem conditions or unsafe conditions.Operators of machines need to be able to hear what is going on with the machine. Other Earbud Risks In most manufacturing industries, various energy-related hazards exist. These may include chemical, electrical, or fire hazards. Failure to hear a warning device due to earbud use not only puts that employee at risk if they cannot hear warnings from coworkers but may be at risk as earbuds also affect evacuations or the realization that equipment is not functioning properly. For maximum safety, no employee in a manufacturing setting should wear earbuds, even if they are not in an area of heavy equipment use. That includes those working in warehouses. Earbuds are never a substitute for any type of hearing protection on the job. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Headphones and earbuds
Are there any hazardous noise levels? On Fri, May 12, 2023, 2:00 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I warned an employee wearing noise cancelling earphones that they were a > safety hazard yesterday. Today I noticed he had them on again, I pointed > to his ear. He went off on me, complaining that everyone else had > earbuds. I told him that many times I started talking to him and he either > acted like he was not hearing anything or he chose to ignore me. Yadda y > adda, yadda. He quit a few minutes later. Good worker but lousy > attitude. 43 years old and had worked about 20 different places. > > So I adopted an open ears policy. If I am the asshole, that is fine. I > am a boomer and proud of it. > > Whadya y’all think? > > > > *Should Employees Be Allowed to Wear Earbuds?* > -- > > > > Currently, the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) does > not have guidelines on earbud use in the workplace. However, OSHA has > issued recommendations regarding earbud use while on the job. Of course, > wearing earbuds in some work environments poses more of a threat than in > others. > > Earbud Dangers > > The dangers of wearing earbuds while on the job are similar to > non-employment use of these devices. People wearing earbuds simply cannot > hear emergency signals, but it goes beyond that. Overall, earbuds may pose > a safety hazard because the employee is less cognizant of their > surroundings and is not paying attention to their safety. > > No Earbuds Allowed > > OSHA urges employers to forbidTop of Form > > Bottom of Form > > the use of earbuds when workers are operating any sort of heavy equipment. > Anyone working on a manufacturing or construction site where heavy > equipment is used should not have earbuds, headphones, or similar devices > on their heads. For example, even if the forklift operator is not wearing > earbuds, a fellow employee in the vicinity using these devices could end up > getting hit if they cannot hear the machine. Along with earbuds, the same > warnings hold true for smartphones. Manufacturing machinery such as > milling machines emit noises that indicate problem conditions or unsafe > conditions. Operators of machines need to be able to hear what is going > on with the machine. > > Other Earbud Risks > > In most manufacturing industries, various energy-related hazards exist. > These may include chemical, electrical, or fire hazards. Failure to hear a > warning device due to earbud use not only puts that employee at risk if > they cannot hear warnings from coworkers but may be at risk as earbuds also > affect evacuations or the realization that equipment is not functioning > properly. For maximum safety, no employee in a manufacturing setting should > wear earbuds, even if they are not in an area of heavy equipment use. That > includes those working in warehouses. Earbuds are never a substitute for > any type of hearing protection on the job. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Headphones and earbuds
I think you're right on the money, employees are there to work not listen to music. I walked up on an employee once potholing a plastic gas service right at the edge of the pavement with headphones on, I had to scream to get his attention. Totally zero situational awareness and no way he'd have heard hissing if he damaged the gas line. Our policy is no music/headphones while working near equipment, in a hazardous area like the road ROW or with a customer nearby. For some jobs, like sitting in the van splicing fiber, I am OK with it. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 3:00 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I warned an employee wearing noise cancelling earphones that they were a > safety hazard yesterday. Today I noticed he had them on again, I pointed to > his ear. He went off on me, complaining that everyone else had earbuds. I > told him that many times I started talking to him and he either acted like he > was not hearing anything or he chose to ignore me. Yadda y adda, yadda. He > quit a few minutes later. Good worker but lousy attitude. 43 years old and > had worked about 20 different places. > > So I adopted an open ears policy. If I am the asshole, that is fine. I am a > boomer and proud of it. > > Whadya y’all think? > > > > Should Employees Be Allowed to Wear Earbuds? > > > > > > Currently, the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) does not > have guidelines on earbud use in the workplace. However, OSHA has issued > recommendations regarding earbud use while on the job. Of course, wearing > earbuds in some work environments poses more of a threat than in others. > > Earbud Dangers > > The dangers of wearing earbuds while on the job are similar to non-employment > use of these devices. People wearing earbuds simply cannot hear emergency > signals, but it goes beyond that. Overall, earbuds may pose a safety hazard > because the employee is less cognizant of their surroundings and is not > paying attention to their safety. > > No Earbuds Allowed > > OSHA urges employers to forbidTop of Form > > Bottom of Form > > the use of earbuds when workers are operating any sort of heavy equipment. > Anyone working on a manufacturing or construction site where heavy equipment > is used should not have earbuds, headphones, or similar devices on their > heads. For example, even if the forklift operator is not wearing earbuds, a > fellow employee in the vicinity using these devices could end up getting hit > if they cannot hear the machine. Along with earbuds, the same warnings hold > true for smartphones. Manufacturing machinery such as milling machines emit > noises that indicate problem conditions or unsafe conditions. Operators of > machines need to be able to hear what is going on with the machine. > > Other Earbud Risks > > In most manufacturing industries, various energy-related hazards exist. These > may include chemical, electrical, or fire hazards. Failure to hear a warning > device due to earbud use not only puts that employee at risk if they cannot > hear warnings from coworkers but may be at risk as earbuds also affect > evacuations or the realization that equipment is not functioning properly. > For maximum safety, no employee in a manufacturing setting should wear > earbuds, even if they are not in an area of heavy equipment use. That > includes those working in warehouses. Earbuds are never a substitute for any > type of hearing protection on the job. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Headphones and earbuds
If you can't hear ambient noise it's an issue. Safety violation. My take: If it's a loud area, then you need hearing protection. Note that most earbuds don't isolate that much, as such if you're even moderately close to the osha hearing protection levels then you can exceed them by permitting earbud use. Hearing outside noise is not nearly as important here as ensuring that you don't exceed dB levels. In quieter areas, then you have the need to hear ambient noise. Depending on the area and whether you feel that being aware of the direction of the noise is important, having a one earbud policy is often OK. Or you can demand use of something like: https://amp.earplugstore.com/saf-t-ear-bluetooth-dual-safety-earbuds.html >From an enforcement perspective, a no earbud at all policy is easiest. On Fri, May 12, 2023, 1:00 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I warned an employee wearing noise cancelling earphones that they were a > safety hazard yesterday. Today I noticed he had them on again, I pointed > to his ear. He went off on me, complaining that everyone else had > earbuds. I told him that many times I started talking to him and he either > acted like he was not hearing anything or he chose to ignore me. Yadda y > adda, yadda. He quit a few minutes later. Good worker but lousy > attitude. 43 years old and had worked about 20 different places. > > So I adopted an open ears policy. If I am the asshole, that is fine. I > am a boomer and proud of it. > > Whadya y’all think? > > > > *Should Employees Be Allowed to Wear Earbuds?* > -- > > > > Currently, the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) does > not have guidelines on earbud use in the workplace. However, OSHA has > issued recommendations regarding earbud use while on the job. Of course, > wearing earbuds in some work environments poses more of a threat than in > others. > > Earbud Dangers > > The dangers of wearing earbuds while on the job are similar to > non-employment use of these devices. People wearing earbuds simply cannot > hear emergency signals, but it goes beyond that. Overall, earbuds may pose > a safety hazard because the employee is less cognizant of their > surroundings and is not paying attention to their safety. > > No Earbuds Allowed > > OSHA urges employers to forbidTop of Form > > Bottom of Form > > the use of earbuds when workers are operating any sort of heavy equipment. > Anyone working on a manufacturing or construction site where heavy > equipment is used should not have earbuds, headphones, or similar devices > on their heads. For example, even if the forklift operator is not wearing > earbuds, a fellow employee in the vicinity using these devices could end up > getting hit if they cannot hear the machine. Along with earbuds, the same > warnings hold true for smartphones. Manufacturing machinery such as > milling machines emit noises that indicate problem conditions or unsafe > conditions. Operators of machines need to be able to hear what is going > on with the machine. > > Other Earbud Risks > > In most manufacturing industries, various energy-related hazards exist. > These may include chemical, electrical, or fire hazards. Failure to hear a > warning device due to earbud use not only puts that employee at risk if > they cannot hear warnings from coworkers but may be at risk as earbuds also > affect evacuations or the realization that equipment is not functioning > properly. For maximum safety, no employee in a manufacturing setting should > wear earbuds, even if they are not in an area of heavy equipment use. That > includes those working in warehouses. Earbuds are never a substitute for > any type of hearing protection on the job. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
