[AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[Nate Burke]

One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is 
down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer 
emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down 
because they can't control their mattress without the internet.  I'm 
having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the 
mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room.


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[AFMUG] amber alert

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I wonder what kind of special signal they send to your phone to trigger an 
amber alert?  I would love to be able to trigger my phone on certain alarms 
like that.  
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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[Mike Hammett]

A week? Mine's been down for 4 months. Not sure when they'll be back either. 

Thankfully, all but one customer was able to see another grain leg I could use. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Nate Burke"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 8:19:38 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep 

One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is 
down for a week. Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer 
emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down 
because they can't control their mattress without the internet. I'm 
having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the 
mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room. 

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Re: [AFMUG] amber alert

[Adam Moffett]

Everything sent to cell phone with a pair of keys.  One key is in your SIM 
card, and the other is in the EPC at the cell company’s head end.  I assume the 
amber alert is still encrypted like everything else. Could be wrong,  but you 
might have to crack that to send anything to your phone that it would listen to.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:16:18 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] amber alert

I wonder what kind of special signal they send to your phone to trigger an 
amber alert?  I would love to be able to trigger my phone on certain alarms 
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Re: [AFMUG] amber alert

[Adam Moffett]

Maybe a clever guy like you could capture and record an actual amber alert over 
the air and then repeat it on demand.  When you get the alert to watch for the 
missing person in the blue Hyundai you know it’s really your front door alarm.

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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 

Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:16:18 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
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Subject: [AFMUG] amber alert

I wonder what kind of special signal they send to your phone to trigger an 
amber alert?  I would love to be able to trigger my phone on certain alarms 
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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[Cameron Crum]

Or maybe it randomly folds them in half while they are sleeping? Who has
something like this that "has" to have internet connectivity? Why would the
mattress company require this?

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is
> down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer
> emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down
> because they can't control their mattress without the internet.  I'm
> having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the
> mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room.
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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[Josh Luthman]

It's a real property DRM.  Require the bed to have a monthly subscription
and if they don't pay it, shut off the features.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:34 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Or maybe it randomly folds them in half while they are sleeping? Who has
> something like this that "has" to have internet connectivity? Why would the
> mattress company require this?
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is
>> down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer
>> emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down
>> because they can't control their mattress without the internet.  I'm
>> having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the
>> mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Ourdoor WiFi coverage

[Steve Jones]

Cambium is really good at working with you on these scenarios and getting
the configs dialed in. Roaming is going to be the biggest hurdle, getting
them to exit the far ap they wandered away from

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 4:15 PM Josh Luthman 
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> Start at the left, shoot the 90* AP towards the right.  Then when you're
> ready for another AP (test with your cell phone) start another one.  Keep
> going until you hit that mile.
>
> If it's wide open I'm going to WAG 1/4 mile per AP if it's truly open.
> 1/8 mile if there are a few trees.
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 5:02 PM Brough Turner  wrote:
>
>> I need to provide WiFi to consumer devices in an open corridor not too
>> wide but more than a mile long.  Any suggestions?  Anyone with experience
>> providing WiFi to large open areas?  I need to figure out how many APs I'll
>> need and thus how many poles, power, etc.
>>
>> In particular, I'm wondering if something like a Cambium 502S Sector
>> outdoor WiFi Access point would be useful in reducing the number of APs I
>> need.  They claim it has 17 dBi of antenna gain.  That suggests a longer,
>> not so wide coverage area in one direction rather than a circle around the
>> AP.
>>
>> I'm interested in a sense of how far an outdoor user can be from the AP
>> and still get a usable WiFi connection.
>> If you have specific experience with any particular AP, I'd love to hear
>> how far it worked.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brough
>>
>> Brough Turner
>> netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband!
>> Mobile:  617-285-0433   Skype:  brough
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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Welcome to the future, if you want to sleep you have to pay.  Maybe we can 
connect the air to the internet too.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:42 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

It's a real property DRM.  Require the bed to have a monthly subscription and 
if they don't pay it, shut off the features.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:34 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:

  Or maybe it randomly folds them in half while they are sleeping? Who has 
something like this that "has" to have internet connectivity? Why would the 
mattress company require this? 

  On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is 
down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer 
emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down 
because they can't control their mattress without the internet.  I'm 
having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the 
mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room.

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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[castarritt]

AaaS?

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> Welcome to the future, if you want to sleep you have to pay.  Maybe we can
> connect the air to the internet too.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:42 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep
>
> It's a real property DRM.  Require the bed to have a monthly subscription
> and if they don't pay it, shut off the features.
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:34 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:
>
>> Or maybe it randomly folds them in half while they are sleeping? Who has
>> something like this that "has" to have internet connectivity? Why would the
>> mattress company require this?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>> One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is
>>> down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer
>>> emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down
>>> because they can't control their mattress without the internet.  I'm
>>> having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the
>>> mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room.
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[dmmoffett]

Now we see the illuminati’s real purpose for pushing IPv6.  Every cubic 
centimeter of air gets an address.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of castarritt
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

 

AaaS?

 

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

Welcome to the future, if you want to sleep you have to pay.  Maybe we can 
connect the air to the internet too.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:42 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

 

It's a real property DRM.  Require the bed to have a monthly subscription and 
if they don't pay it, shut off the features.

 

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:34 AM Cameron Crum mailto:cc...@murcevilo.com> > wrote:

Or maybe it randomly folds them in half while they are sleeping? Who has 
something like this that "has" to have internet connectivity? Why would the 
mattress company require this? 

 

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> > wrote:

One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is 
down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer 
emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down 
because they can't control their mattress without the internet.  I'm 
having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the 
mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room.

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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[Bill Prince]

To what altitude? Above what altitude is the thinning air no lnger 
considered air?



bp


On 9/21/2022 12:03 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:


Now we see the illuminati’s real purpose for pushing IPv6.  Every 
cubic centimeter of air gets an address.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *castarritt
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:12 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

AaaS?

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:


Welcome to the future, if you want to sleep you have to pay. 
Maybe we can connect the air to the internet too.

*From:*Josh Luthman

*Sent:*Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:42 AM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

It's a real property DRM.  Require the bed to have a monthly
subscription and if they don't pay it, shut off the features.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:34 AM Cameron Crum
 wrote:

Or maybe it randomly folds them in half while they are
sleeping? Who has something like this that "has" to have
internet connectivity? Why would the mattress company require
this?

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke
 wrote:

One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt,
so the site is
down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew.
Customer
emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it
will be down
because they can't control their mattress without the
internet.  I'm
having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane'
of the
mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a
room.

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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[Chuck McCown via AF]

It is a steradian...

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 1:20 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

To what altitude? Above what altitude is the thinning air no lnger considered 
air?



bp
On 9/21/2022 12:03 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

  Now we see the illuminati’s real purpose for pushing IPv6.  Every cubic 
centimeter of air gets an address.

   

  From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of castarritt
  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:12 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

   

  AaaS?

   

  On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

Welcome to the future, if you want to sleep you have to pay.  Maybe we can 
connect the air to the internet too.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:42 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

 

It's a real property DRM.  Require the bed to have a monthly subscription 
and if they don't pay it, shut off the features.

 

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:34 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:

  Or maybe it randomly folds them in half while they are sleeping? Who has 
something like this that "has" to have internet connectivity? Why would the 
mattress company require this? 

   

  On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is 
down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer 
emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down 
because they can't control their mattress without the internet.  I'm 
having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the 
mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room.

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Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep

[Josh Luthman]

'bout 62 miles.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 3:21 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> To what altitude? Above what altitude is the thinning air no lnger
> considered air?
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 9/21/2022 12:03 PM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Now we see the illuminati’s real purpose for pushing IPv6.  Every cubic
> centimeter of air gets an address.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *castarritt
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:12 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep
>
>
>
> AaaS?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:19 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
> Welcome to the future, if you want to sleep you have to pay.  Maybe we can
> connect the air to the internet too.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:42 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] My Internet is down and I can't sleep
>
>
>
> It's a real property DRM.  Require the bed to have a monthly subscription
> and if they don't pay it, shut off the features.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:34 AM Cameron Crum  wrote:
>
> Or maybe it randomly folds them in half while they are sleeping? Who has
> something like this that "has" to have internet connectivity? Why would the
> mattress company require this?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
> One of our grain legs is getting demolished and rebuilt, so the site is
> down for a week.  Planned outage, all the customers knew. Customer
> emailed yesterday and wanted to know how much longer it will be down
> because they can't control their mattress without the internet.  I'm
> having visions of something from 'Naked Gun' or 'Airplane' of the
> mattress just going crazy and they have it barricaded in a room.
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Re: [AFMUG] amber alert

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Not sure that is all there is to it.  I have an old phone that I keep this 
laying around generally on Wi-Fi to listen to podcasts and a few other things.  
Only wifi.  No sim in it.  It still gets those alerts.

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From: "Adam Moffett" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: [AFMUG] amber alert
Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2022 10:24 AM

Everything sent to cell phone with a pair of keys.  One key is in your SIM 
card, and the other is in the EPC at the cell company’s head end.  I
assume the amber alert is still encrypted like everything else. Could be wrong, 
 but you might have to crack that to send anything to your phone that it would 
listen to.








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Re: [AFMUG] amber alert

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Must be something baked into the hardware.  Like the EBS system.  I wonder if 
it is an FCC mandated thing.  If so the tech specs must be out there somewhere. 
 

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 8:52 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] amber alert


Not sure that is all there is to it.  I have an old phone that I keep this 
laying around generally on Wi-Fi to listen to podcasts and a few other things.  
Only wifi.  No sim in it.  It still gets those alerts.  

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From: "Adam Moffett" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: [AFMUG] amber alert
Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2022 10:24 AM

Everything sent to cell phone with a pair of keys.  One key is in your SIM 
card, and the other is in the EPC at the cell company’s head end.  I assume the 
amber alert is still encrypted like everything else. Could be wrong,  but you 
might have to crack that to send anything to your phone that it would listen to.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:16:18 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
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Subject: [AFMUG] amber alert 

I wonder what kind of special signal they send to your phone to trigger an 
amber alert?  I would love to be able to trigger my phone on certain alarms 
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[AFMUG] Is Motorola Chuck still on afmug? (I forget his last name)

[Sean Heskett]

Check out this article about an electric Corvette Motorola made in the
early 1990’s

https://www.thedrive.com/culture/we-found-motorolas-secret-chevy-corvette-ev-prototype-from-the-1990s



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Re: [AFMUG] Is Motorola Chuck still on afmug? (I forget his last name)

[Chuck Macenski]

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:21 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Check out this article about an electric Corvette Motorola made in the
> early 1990’s
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> https://www.thedrive.com/culture/we-found-motorolas-secret-chevy-corvette-ev-prototype-from-the-1990s
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Re: [AFMUG] Is Motorola Chuck still on afmug? (I forget his last name)

[Chuck Macenski]

I wish the author would have listed some of the names/email addresses to
see if there were any I knew. There were tons of proof of concept
"products" built in the research labs whose existence never escaped the
walls of Motorola. Often they were built to identify new technologies
that warranted future development work.

Working in the labs was fun, but you could never talk about what you were
working on. Canopy was one of the few that escaped when no one was looking
(this is more true than you might believe).

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:33 PM Chuck Macenski  wrote:

> Heisenburg
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 11:21 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Check out this article about an electric Corvette Motorola made in the
>> early 1990’s
>>
>>
>> https://www.thedrive.com/culture/we-found-motorolas-secret-chevy-corvette-ev-prototype-from-the-1990s
>>
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