Re: [AFMUG] wispa list

2022-08-25 Thread David Hannum
Sure glad he has incite!  I think he's trying to incite concern for WISPA
maybe

Dave

On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:00 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> This is not the case for WISPA events.
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 3:03 PM Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>
>> As having some incite in on the trade-show world because that's the
>> business my wife is in. I can tell you the companies that run the
>> tradeshows/venues and apps for tradeshows are always pulling off the
>> customer lists and either selling them or have horrible security and they
>> get mined.
>> On 8/23/2022 3:33 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> With a domain called exhibitionsleads, perhaps he has insiders in the
>> venues that funnel out info on the various trade shows.  Could happen.  All
>> those people that print up the name badges all have some kind of access to
>> the list.  Be fun to salt some bogus names and emails to see if it could be
>> tracked.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2022 12:56 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wispa list
>>
>>
>> I saw it.  I wonder if he really has the wispa list and if so how did he
>> get it.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:11 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>>> I'll sell you my copy of the AFMUG list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" 
>>> Anybody else get this with subject "WISPA B2B Leads"
>>>
>>> from Franklin Joseph 
>>> <>>
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[AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Steve Jones
The companies doing the BDC filings
What data, specifically are they going to need from us to do the filing?
Im trying to get the export out of CnHeat, but I still need to get more
sites into it and I havent even started the whole subscription side
Anybody just not filing?
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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Cameron Crum
cheat has a special section for this . Look at the bottom left. You have to
build your speed tier to signal strength mappings so they can export
polygons for your speed tiers. It's a bit different from just the regular
runs. If you have cheat polygons, we can prep your stuff pretty quickly as
we don't have to do all the analysis. It's basically your contact info,
what services you are filing for and then your polygon and fabric uploads.

Cameron

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 1:45 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> The companies doing the BDC filings
> What data, specifically are they going to need from us to do the filing?
> Im trying to get the export out of CnHeat, but I still need to get more
> sites into it and I havent even started the whole subscription side
> Anybody just not filing?
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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Not filing is a bad decision.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 2:55 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:

> cheat has a special section for this . Look at the bottom left. You have
> to build your speed tier to signal strength mappings so they can export
> polygons for your speed tiers. It's a bit different from just the regular
> runs. If you have cheat polygons, we can prep your stuff pretty quickly as
> we don't have to do all the analysis. It's basically your contact info,
> what services you are filing for and then your polygon and fabric uploads.
>
> Cameron
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 1:45 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> The companies doing the BDC filings
>> What data, specifically are they going to need from us to do the filing?
>> Im trying to get the export out of CnHeat, but I still need to get more
>> sites into it and I havent even started the whole subscription side
>> Anybody just not filing?
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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
$15K find for not filing.

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] BDC service

The companies doing the BDC filings 
What data, specifically are they going to need from us to do the filing?
Im trying to get the export out of CnHeat, but I still need to get more sites 
into it and I havent even started the whole subscription side
Anybody just not filing?



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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
“fine”

Now, if there was a finders fee, we could all finger Steve...

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 1:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

$15K find for not filing.

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] BDC service

The companies doing the BDC filings 
What data, specifically are they going to need from us to do the filing?
Im trying to get the export out of CnHeat, but I still need to get more sites 
into it and I havent even started the whole subscription side
Anybody just not filing?



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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Seth Mattinen

On 8/25/22 12:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Not filing is a bad decision.



The filing thing rejected half of my location IDs as invalid. Apparently 
they are marked 'bsl_flag=false' in the fabric data. All of my locations 
IDs are commercial/business which were hit or miss which were flagged 
true or false. The ID for our physical address where we provide gigabit 
Ethernet to in-building neighbors was rejected, of all the locations 
that one is the *most* serviceable of them all.


So if it's such a big deal they need to fine people I'll just submit 
what it will accept and ignore what it won't.  Seems like a great way to 
keep having inaccurate data though unless they only really care about 
residential, in which which case 100% of my filing is irrelevant.


~Seth

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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Cameron Crum
The primary goal is to determine consumer level broadband access. So yeah,
they flag the commercial addresses and reject. It's a pretty easy search to
eliminate them. Just ignore anything with bsl_flag set to false.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 8:26 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 8/25/22 12:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Not filing is a bad decision.
>
>
> The filing thing rejected half of my location IDs as invalid. Apparently
> they are marked 'bsl_flag=false' in the fabric data. All of my locations
> IDs are commercial/business which were hit or miss which were flagged
> true or false. The ID for our physical address where we provide gigabit
> Ethernet to in-building neighbors was rejected, of all the locations
> that one is the *most* serviceable of them all.
>
> So if it's such a big deal they need to fine people I'll just submit
> what it will accept and ignore what it won't.  Seems like a great way to
> keep having inaccurate data though unless they only really care about
> residential, in which which case 100% of my filing is irrelevant.
>
> ~Seth
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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Seth Mattinen

On 8/25/22 6:39 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
The primary goal is to determine consumer level broadband access. So 
yeah, they flag the commercial addresses and reject. It's a pretty easy 
search to eliminate them. Just ignore anything with bsl_flag set to false.



I mean that's all of my locations IDs. Like obviously commercial: tilt 
up concrete buildings, warehouse/distribution, office buildings in 
commercially zoned properties. All multi-tenant except one. Nothing that 
could remotely be confused with residential. Yet some are flagged true 
and some are false with apparently no logic behind it.


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Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-25 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I wonder if it is like filing a tax return.  You can file a blank return 
with just a signature and you will not get fined for not filing or late 
filing.



-Original Message- 
From: Seth Mattinen

Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 7:25 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

On 8/25/22 12:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Not filing is a bad decision.



The filing thing rejected half of my location IDs as invalid. Apparently
they are marked 'bsl_flag=false' in the fabric data. All of my locations
IDs are commercial/business which were hit or miss which were flagged
true or false. The ID for our physical address where we provide gigabit
Ethernet to in-building neighbors was rejected, of all the locations
that one is the *most* serviceable of them all.

So if it's such a big deal they need to fine people I'll just submit
what it will accept and ignore what it won't.  Seems like a great way to
keep having inaccurate data though unless they only really care about
residential, in which which case 100% of my filing is irrelevant.

~Seth

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