[AFMUG] OT - UK food porn

[Ken Hohhof]

Is this how people in the UK actually eat?  If the cholesterol doesn't kill
them, scurvy will.

https://twitter.com/ratemyplatenow

 

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[AFMUG] OT - why dogs don't post pictures of food

[Ken Hohhof]

https://www.gocomics.com/poochcafe/2020/06/06

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

[TJ Trout]

Never ever ever charge lithium batteries unattended. Build yourself a box
out of cinder blocks for future charging.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 5:20 PM  wrote:

> Couple of our guys came to check some thing at the shop today, the OSP
> crew ready room was full of smoke.
> Our horizontal directional drills use sondes in the drill head for
> tracking purposes.  We recharge the batts every time they come back to the
> shop.
>
> The batts we use are smaller than normal sonde bats so they fit into an
> adapter, sabot type of thing.
>
> The industry standard is double C cells, but the vibrations are such that
> normal C cells will give you intermittant service.  So most use a special 3
> volt battery that is probably just 2 c cells welded with heat shrink.
>
> Our new locators and sondes use a voltage a bit higher than most 3.3 volt
> lithium.  They like 3.6 volts I believe.  So the smaller batteries are
> adapted to fit the sonde, but the charger for them requires the adapter.
>
> They really should make the charger such that the larger batts cannot be
> put in it.
>
> Just glad we didn’t have a fire.  It did blow the corner of a piece of
> shelving.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

[chuck]

Isn’t everything lithium these days?

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:33 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

Never ever ever charge lithium batteries unattended. Build yourself a box out 
of cinder blocks for future charging. 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 5:20 PM  wrote:

  Couple of our guys came to check some thing at the shop today, the OSP crew 
ready room was full of smoke.
  Our horizontal directional drills use sondes in the drill head for tracking 
purposes.  We recharge the batts every time they come back to the shop.  

  The batts we use are smaller than normal sonde bats so they fit into an 
adapter, sabot type of thing.  

  The industry standard is double C cells, but the vibrations are such that 
normal C cells will give you intermittant service.  So most use a special 3 
volt battery that is probably just 2 c cells welded with heat shrink.

  Our new locators and sondes use a voltage a bit higher than most 3.3 volt 
lithium.  They like 3.6 volts I believe.  So the smaller batteries are adapted 
to fit the sonde, but the charger for them requires the adapter.  

  They really should make the charger such that the larger batts cannot be put 
in it.

  Just glad we didn’t have a fire.  It did blow the corner of a piece of 
shelving.  
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[AFMUG] Data center fire prevention

[TJ Trout]

So one of our sites has become pretty darn important so I was considering a
'clean agent' fire system (like Halon)

Wondering what you guys use? This room has a sprinkler, should I look at
getting it removed? Or build a shield over our racks?

If the fire didn't get us, the water will. Ugh.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

[Ken Hohhof]

I put my DeWalt 20V batteries in a charger and walk away all the time.  I 
shouldn’t do that?  I think the batteries and the chargers are both smart.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

 

Isn’t everything lithium these days?

 

From: TJ Trout 

Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:33 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

 

Never ever ever charge lithium batteries unattended. Build yourself a box out 
of cinder blocks for future charging. 

 

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 5:20 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Couple of our guys came to check some thing at the shop today, the OSP crew 
ready room was full of smoke.

Our horizontal directional drills use sondes in the drill head for tracking 
purposes.  We recharge the batts every time they come back to the shop.  

 

The batts we use are smaller than normal sonde bats so they fit into an 
adapter, sabot type of thing.  

 

The industry standard is double C cells, but the vibrations are such that 
normal C cells will give you intermittant service.  So most use a special 3 
volt battery that is probably just 2 c cells welded with heat shrink.

 

Our new locators and sondes use a voltage a bit higher than most 3.3 volt 
lithium.  They like 3.6 volts I believe.  So the smaller batteries are adapted 
to fit the sonde, but the charger for them requires the adapter.  

 

They really should make the charger such that the larger batts cannot be put in 
it.

 

Just glad we didn’t have a fire.  It did blow the corner of a piece of 
shelving.  

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Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire prevention

[Chuck McCown]

Halon will kill you if you are in the room when it goes off.  No oxygen 
availability.
Good smoke sniffer system and a rack by rack power killing system is what some 
use.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 7:47 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> 
> So one of our sites has become pretty darn important so I was considering a 
> 'clean agent' fire system (like Halon)
> 
> Wondering what you guys use? This room has a sprinkler, should I look at 
> getting it removed? Or build a shield over our racks?
> 
> If the fire didn't get us, the water will. Ugh. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

[Bill Prince]

  
  
That last battery says "No Charging". Am I understanding this?
Lithium have a different charge profile from SLA, Nicad, and
  NiMH. From what I understand they don't do bulk charging?


bp



On 6/6/2020 5:18 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  Couple of our guys came to check some thing at the shop
today, the OSP crew ready room was full of smoke.
  Our horizontal directional drills use sondes in the drill
head for tracking purposes.  We recharge the batts every
time they come back to the shop.  
   
  The batts we use are smaller than normal sonde bats so
they fit into an adapter, sabot type of thing.  
   
  The industry standard is double C cells, but the
vibrations are such that normal C cells will give you
intermittant service.  So most use a special 3 volt battery
that is probably just 2 c cells welded with heat shrink.
   
  Our new locators and sondes use a voltage a bit higher
than most 3.3 volt lithium.  They like 3.6 volts I believe. 
So the smaller batteries are adapted to fit the sonde, but
the charger for them requires the adapter.  
   
  They really should make the charger such that the larger
batts cannot be put in it.
   
  Just glad we didn’t have a fire.  It did blow the corner
of a piece of shelving.  

  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

[TJ Trout]

plenty of houses and businesses lost from charging lithium batteries,
especially unattended.

If you aren't going to be present,, atleast make a little 'safe' spot with
bricks and far away from combustible materials

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 7:04 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I put my DeWalt 20V batteries in a charger and walk away all the time.  I
> shouldn’t do that?  I think the batteries and the chargers are both smart.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:37 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable
>
>
>
> Isn’t everything lithium these days?
>
>
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:33 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable
>
>
>
> Never ever ever charge lithium batteries unattended. Build yourself a box
> out of cinder blocks for future charging.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 5:20 PM  wrote:
>
> Couple of our guys came to check some thing at the shop today, the OSP
> crew ready room was full of smoke.
>
> Our horizontal directional drills use sondes in the drill head for
> tracking purposes.  We recharge the batts every time they come back to the
> shop.
>
>
>
> The batts we use are smaller than normal sonde bats so they fit into an
> adapter, sabot type of thing.
>
>
>
> The industry standard is double C cells, but the vibrations are such that
> normal C cells will give you intermittant service.  So most use a special 3
> volt battery that is probably just 2 c cells welded with heat shrink.
>
>
>
> Our new locators and sondes use a voltage a bit higher than most 3.3 volt
> lithium.  They like 3.6 volts I believe.  So the smaller batteries are
> adapted to fit the sonde, but the charger for them requires the adapter.
>
>
>
> They really should make the charger such that the larger batts cannot be
> put in it.
>
>
>
> Just glad we didn’t have a fire.  It did blow the corner of a piece of
> shelving.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

[Bill Prince]

  
  
There has to be at least a dozen different "flavors" of lithium
  batteries at this point. All kinds of different chemistries.


bp



On 6/6/2020 5:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  Isn’t everything lithium these days?
  

   
  
From: TJ
Trout 
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:33 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable
  

 
  
  
Never ever ever charge lithium batteries unattended.
  Build yourself a box out of cinder blocks for future
  charging. 
 

  On Sat, Jun 6, 2020,
5:20 PM 
wrote:
  
  

  

  Couple of our guys came to check some thing
at the shop today, the OSP crew ready room was
full of smoke.
  Our horizontal directional drills use sondes
in the drill head for tracking purposes.  We
recharge the batts every time they come back to
the shop.  
   
  The batts we use are smaller than normal
sonde bats so they fit into an adapter, sabot
type of thing.  
   
  The industry standard is double C cells, but
the vibrations are such that normal C cells will
give you intermittant service.  So most use a
special 3 volt battery that is probably just 2 c
cells welded with heat shrink.
   
  Our new locators and sondes use a voltage a
bit higher than most 3.3 volt lithium.  They
like 3.6 volts I believe.  So the smaller
batteries are adapted to fit the sonde, but the
charger for them requires the adapter.  
   
  They really should make the charger such that
the larger batts cannot be put in it.
   
  Just glad we didn’t have a fire.  It did blow
the corner of a piece of shelving.  

  

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Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire prevention

[Steve Jones]

I have no recollection of where we were getting them, but we used to huff
halon from fire extinguishers into a balloon or an ambu bag. i can attest,
halon puts things out (people)

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:06 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Halon will kill you if you are in the room when it goes off.  No oxygen
> availability.
> Good smoke sniffer system and a rack by rack power killing system is what
> some use.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 6, 2020, at 7:47 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > So one of our sites has become pretty darn important so I was
> considering a 'clean agent' fire system (like Halon)
> >
> > Wondering what you guys use? This room has a sprinkler, should I look at
> getting it removed? Or build a shield over our racks?
> >
> > If the fire didn't get us, the water will. Ugh.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

[Mathew Howard]

Indeed. You're going to need a pretty big cinder block box to charge your
car in...

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 7:38 PM  wrote:

> Isn’t everything lithium these days?
>
> *From:* TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:33 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable
>
> Never ever ever charge lithium batteries unattended. Build yourself a box
> out of cinder blocks for future charging.
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 5:20 PM  wrote:
>
>> Couple of our guys came to check some thing at the shop today, the OSP
>> crew ready room was full of smoke.
>> Our horizontal directional drills use sondes in the drill head for
>> tracking purposes.  We recharge the batts every time they come back to the
>> shop.
>>
>> The batts we use are smaller than normal sonde bats so they fit into an
>> adapter, sabot type of thing.
>>
>> The industry standard is double C cells, but the vibrations are such that
>> normal C cells will give you intermittant service.  So most use a special 3
>> volt battery that is probably just 2 c cells welded with heat shrink.
>>
>> Our new locators and sondes use a voltage a bit higher than most 3.3 volt
>> lithium.  They like 3.6 volts I believe.  So the smaller batteries are
>> adapted to fit the sonde, but the charger for them requires the adapter.
>>
>> They really should make the charger such that the larger batts cannot be
>> put in it.
>>
>> Just glad we didn’t have a fire.  It did blow the corner of a piece of
>> shelving.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable

[Robert]

BMS is everything for lithium charging safety...   I built a charging 
station for charging cells using ceramic tiles..   They get extremely 
hot if they burn.


On 6/6/20 7:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


There has to be at least a dozen different "flavors" of lithium 
batteries at this point. All kinds of different chemistries.



bp


On 6/6/2020 5:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Isn’t everything lithium these days?
*From:* TJ Trout
*Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:33 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT rechargable
Never ever ever charge lithium batteries unattended. Build yourself a 
box out of cinder blocks for future charging.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 5:20 PM  wrote:

Couple of our guys came to check some thing at the shop today,
the OSP crew ready room was full of smoke.
Our horizontal directional drills use sondes in the drill head
for tracking purposes.  We recharge the batts every time they
come back to the shop.
The batts we use are smaller than normal sonde bats so they fit
into an adapter, sabot type of thing.
The industry standard is double C cells, but the vibrations are
such that normal C cells will give you intermittant service.  So
most use a special 3 volt battery that is probably just 2 c cells
welded with heat shrink.
Our new locators and sondes use a voltage a bit higher than most
3.3 volt lithium.  They like 3.6 volts I believe.  So the smaller
batteries are adapted to fit the sonde, but the charger for them
requires the adapter.
They really should make the charger such that the larger batts
cannot be put in it.
Just glad we didn’t have a fire.  It did blow the corner of a
piece of shelving.
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