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Re: [AFMUG] Elevated water tank work

2020-05-12 Thread chuck

Is that an LED strobe?

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Subject: [AFMUG] Elevated water tank work

This was my office view today



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7 



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Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004
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Re: [AFMUG] Elevated water tank work

2020-05-12 Thread Jaime Solorza

Yes it is

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread fiberrun

Well, I did expect it to match the RB4011, or even best it a bit. Alas, it was 
not to be. Disappointing...

Jared

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread James Howard

So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance I 
guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or two).  
Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a must.  We're 
running CHR on our current boxes.

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7



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[AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread Jaime Solorza

Yum with fresh made flour tortillas
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread James Howard

That's just cruel...   If you're not going to send pictures you should say 
"nah nah" or something like that at the end to taunt us even more.  lol

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Mike Hammett

I've always been a fan of just loading it on some used server. 




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So what is awesome and available now? We had an i7 box (network appliance I 
guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or two). 
Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available. BGP is a must. We’re 
running CHR on our current boxes. 



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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7 



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread fiberrun

The Juniper MX204 is awesome and available now, but it'll set you back at least ten grand...

 

Here's a list of software routers you can try out:

 



	
	VyOS - free, version 1.3 will support XDP with both software and hardware offload https://www.vyos.io/
	
	
	DANOS - free, load it on a white box switch to see some serious Mpps https://www.danosproject.org/
	
	
	FRR+VPP - free https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/wiki/Alternate-forwarding-planes:-VPP
	
	
	TNSR - $400(?)/year for 10G license https://www.tnsr.com/
	
	
	6wind - ~3k$ for 10G license + 15% yearly https://www.6wind.com/vrouter-solutions/6wind-turbo-router/
	
	
	Juniper vMX - ̃4k$ for perpetual 10G license with 2 million routes https://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/mx-series/vmx/
	
	
	TheRouter - the Russian alternative :) https://therouter.net/
	



 

 

Jared

 
 

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So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance I guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or two).  Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a must.  We’re running CHR on our current boxes.

 



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I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Ken Hohhof

Baltic/Maxxwave has one, but their web store shows out of stock, is it
actually discontinued?  Linktechs might have one, if you don't want to build
your own.

 

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So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance I
guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or
two).  Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a
must.  We're running CHR on our current boxes.

 

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Cc: Dennis Burgess mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>
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I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7 



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread James Howard

Not looking to switch from Mikrotik.  Just wanted to know if there are any 
preconfigured i7 or better boxes that anybody’s selling right now.

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The Juniper MX204 is awesome and available now, but it'll set you back at least 
ten grand...

Here's a list of software routers you can try out:


· VyOS - free, version 1.3 will support XDP with both software and 
hardware offload https://www.vyos.io/

· DANOS - free, load it on a white box switch to see some serious Mpps 
https://www.danosproject.org/

· FRR+VPP - free 
https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/wiki/Alternate-forwarding-planes:-VPP

· TNSR - $400(?)/year for 10G license https://www.tnsr.com/

· 6wind - ~3k$ for 10G license + 15% yearly 
https://www.6wind.com/vrouter-solutions/6wind-turbo-router/

· Juniper vMX - ̃4k$ for perpetual 10G license with 2 million routes 
https://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/mx-series/vmx/

· TheRouter - the Russian alternative :) https://therouter.net/


Jared


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So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance I 
guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or two).  
Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a must.  We’re 
running CHR on our current boxes.

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread James Howard

Baltic says they aren't sure when they're going to get the Maxxwave in again.  
We have one of the Maxxwave i7s and would just get more if they were available. 
 I was hoping Dennis would reply.  They don't seem to list the PowerRouter that 
they used to sell on their site anymore.

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Baltic/Maxxwave has one, but their web store shows out of stock, is it actually 
discontinued?  Linktechs might have one, if you don't want to build your own.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
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So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance I 
guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or two).  
Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a must.  We're 
running CHR on our current boxes.

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7

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Enterprise Wireless Engineer
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Adam Moffett

I'd imagine you can source a pretty burly network appliance PC from 
somewhere.  There seem to be dozens of options.



On 5/12/2020 11:57 AM, James Howard wrote:


Baltic says they aren’t sure when they’re going to get the Maxxwave in 
again.  We have one of the Maxxwave i7s and would just get more if 
they were available.  I was hoping Dennis would reply.  They don’t 
seem to list the PowerRouter that they used to sell on their site 
anymore.


*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:45 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Baltic/Maxxwave has one, but their web store shows out of stock, is it 
actually discontinued?  Linktechs might have one, if you don’t want to 
build your own.


*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> 
*On Behalf Of *James Howard

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:17 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network 
appliance I guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get 
another backup (or two).  Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes 
available.  BGP is a must. We’re running CHR on our current boxes.


*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis 
Burgess via AF

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:51 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7



Dennis Burgess

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Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition"
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Josh Baird

We built our own using Lanner i7 appliances loaded with Intel X710's.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:58 AM James Howard  wrote:

> Baltic says they aren’t sure when they’re going to get the Maxxwave in
> again.  We have one of the Maxxwave i7s and would just get more if they
> were available.  I was hoping Dennis would reply.  They don’t seem to list
> the PowerRouter that they used to sell on their site anymore.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:45 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
>
>
> Baltic/Maxxwave has one, but their web store shows out of stock, is it
> actually discontinued?  Linktechs might have one, if you don’t want to
> build your own.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *James Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:17 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
>
>
> So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance
> I guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or
> two).  Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a
> must.  We’re running CHR on our current boxes.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess via AF
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:51 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
>
>
> I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7
>
>
>
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> Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004
> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161044
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Ken Hohhof

Well, there are a lot of "supply chain" issues now.  Some things are weeks
out, others arrive next day, it's a mixed bag.

From: AF  On Behalf Of James Howard
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:57 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Baltic says they aren't sure when they're going to get the Maxxwave in
again.  We have one of the Maxxwave i7s and would just get more if they were
available.  I was hoping Dennis would reply.  They don't seem to list the
PowerRouter that they used to sell on their site anymore. 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:45 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Baltic/Maxxwave has one, but their web store shows out of stock, is it
actually discontinued?  Linktechs might have one, if you don't want to build
your own.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of James Howard
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:17 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance I
guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or
two).  Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a
must.  We're running CHR on our current boxes.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess via AF
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Dennis Burgess mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7 

Dennis Burgess

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Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3
 &t=161044

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread James Howard

Yeah, there seems to be is the key……  I did that with the last one and had some 
compatibility issues with the SFP+ cards and didn’t really end up saving any 
money over buying one already put together.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:13 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

I'd imagine you can source a pretty burly network appliance PC from somewhere.  
There seem to be dozens of options.

On 5/12/2020 11:57 AM, James Howard wrote:
Baltic says they aren’t sure when they’re going to get the Maxxwave in again.  
We have one of the Maxxwave i7s and would just get more if they were available. 
 I was hoping Dennis would reply.  They don’t seem to list the PowerRouter that 
they used to sell on their site anymore.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:45 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Baltic/Maxxwave has one, but their web store shows out of stock, is it actually 
discontinued?  Linktechs might have one, if you don’t want to build your own.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
James Howard
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:17 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance I 
guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or two).  
Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a must.  We’re 
running CHR on our current boxes.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess via AF
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Cc: Dennis Burgess mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7

Dennis Burgess

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Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
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Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161044

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread Carl Peterson

This thread is worthless without pics
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread Jay Weekley


I was wondering if I missed it.

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

I will second the Baltic Networks Vengence 2 CHR. Has been nothing but
totally reliable since we got one in January. Only pushing about 1.5gbps
through it though, but BGP converge times are insanely fast and it was darn
near the same cost as a CCR1072.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:25 PM James Howard  wrote:

> Yeah, there seems to be is the key……  I did that with the last one and had
> some compatibility issues with the SFP+ cards and didn’t really end up
> saving any money over buying one already put together.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 11:13 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
>
>
> I'd imagine you can source a pretty burly network appliance PC from
> somewhere.  There seem to be dozens of options.
>
>
>
> On 5/12/2020 11:57 AM, James Howard wrote:
>
> Baltic says they aren’t sure when they’re going to get the Maxxwave in
> again.  We have one of the Maxxwave i7s and would just get more if they
> were available.  I was hoping Dennis would reply.  They don’t seem to list
> the PowerRouter that they used to sell on their site anymore.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:45 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
>
>
> Baltic/Maxxwave has one, but their web store shows out of stock, is it
> actually discontinued?  Linktechs might have one, if you don’t want to
> build your own.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *James Howard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:17 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
>
>
> So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance
> I guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or
> two).  Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a
> must.  We’re running CHR on our current boxes.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess via AF
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:51 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Cc:* Dennis Burgess 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
>
>
> I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7
>
>
>
> Dennis Burgess
>
> Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless
> Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, Security
> Engineer, Enterprise Wireless Engineer
> Hurricane Electric: IPv6 Sage Level
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>
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> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
> Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com
>
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> To: af@af.afmug.com
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> Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread Adam Moffett

Ok, you have to tell me about the leaves coming out of the bundle in the 
second pick.  Is that an herb?



On 5/12/2020 3:42 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:



Here are some pics of a stuffed pork tenderloin I cooked over a 
campfire awhile back.  Larded with bacon of course - makes a nice 
snack for the cook.



Tenderloin-Campfire2.jpg

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:31 PM Adam Moffett > wrote:


Here's a picture of a steak I cooked over a campfire last
September.  Less worthless now?

On 5/12/2020 12:27 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:

This thread is worthless without pics

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread Carl Peterson

Haha no.  Just there to hold the bacon on till it crisps up a little.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:47 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Ok, you have to tell me about the leaves coming out of the bundle in the
> second pick.  Is that an herb?
>
>
> On 5/12/2020 3:42 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
>
>
> Here are some pics of a stuffed pork tenderloin I cooked over a campfire
> awhile back.  Larded with bacon of course - makes a nice snack for the
> cook.
>
>
> [image: Tenderloin-Campfire2.jpg]
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:31 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Here's a picture of a steak I cooked over a campfire last September.
>> Less worthless now?
>> On 5/12/2020 12:27 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>
>> This thread is worthless without pics
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread Adam Moffett


Ahskewers.


On 5/12/2020 3:53 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:

Haha no.  Just there to hold the bacon on till it crisps up a little.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:47 PM Adam Moffett > wrote:


Ok, you have to tell me about the leaves coming out of the bundle
in the second pick.  Is that an herb?


On 5/12/2020 3:42 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:



Here are some pics of a stuffed pork tenderloin I cooked over a
campfire awhile back.  Larded with bacon of course - makes a nice
snack for the cook.


Tenderloin-Campfire2.jpg

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:31 PM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Here's a picture of a steak I cooked over a campfire last
September.  Less worthless now?

On 5/12/2020 12:27 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:

This thread is worthless without pics

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread Jaime Solorza

It didn't post first time...you know since Pentagon disclosed that UFOs are
real, things are weird .

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 2:18 PM Jaime Solorza 
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> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 9:18 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Yum with fresh made flour tortillas
>>
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[AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread chuck

For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me anymore.  They say not 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread chuck

It appears not all of Utah either.  Just some counties.  I think it has to do 
perhaps with making meth or huffing.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread James Howard

We know you were just taunting us.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

It didn't post first time...you know since Pentagon disclosed that UFOs are 
real, things are weird .

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 2:18 PM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 9:18 AM Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yum with fresh made flour tortillas

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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread Jaime Solorza

Well, on the good side ..the murder hornets will be killed by your
mosquitoes who are full of meth in their system...
Lol...stole it from South Carolina meme

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:50 PM  wrote:

> It appears not all of Utah either.  Just some counties.  I think it has to
> do perhaps with making meth or huffing.
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:46 PM
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> *Subject:* OT I need a smuggler
>
> For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me anymore.  They
> say not to Utah...
> That is my #1 adhesive for ABS plastic parts.
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF

We have some PR2200s still in stock, dual 4 core Xeons.  Not exactly I7s though.

Honestly any decent server should work as long as it has good NICs in it.  ..

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From: AF  On Behalf Of James Howard
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:55 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Not looking to switch from Mikrotik.  Just wanted to know if there are any 
preconfigured i7 or better boxes that anybody’s selling right now.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

The Juniper MX204 is awesome and available now, but it'll set you back at least 
ten grand...

Here's a list of software routers you can try out:


  *   VyOS - free, version 1.3 will support XDP with both software and hardware 
offload 
https://www.vyos.io/
  *   DANOS - free, load it on a white box switch to see some serious Mpps 
https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.danosproject.org&umid=FBD91069-A57A-9D05-B2B7-DB316D063F53&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-54028fedd3de2904d007150971cc30835c1d74c7
  *   FRR+VPP - free 
https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/wiki/Alternate-forwarding-planes:-VPP
  *   TNSR - $400(?)/year for 10G license 
https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.tnsr.com&umid=FBD91069-A57A-9D05-B2B7-DB316D063F53&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-50d39b5d17d74da73864bbfc3794d6163e8dc3c7
  *   6wind - ~3k$ for 10G license + 15% yearly 
https://www.6wind.com/vrouter-solutions/6wind-turbo-router/
  *   Juniper vMX - ̃4k$ for perpetual 10G license with 2 million routes 
https://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/mx-series/vmx/
  *   TheRouter - the Russian alternative :) 
https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2ftherouter.net&umid=FBD91069-A57A-9D05-B2B7-DB316D063F53&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-486987e3788be6be7abcd837f035361d7f6af972


Jared


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From: "James Howard" mailto:ja...@litewire.net>>
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mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
So what is awesome and available now?  We had an i7 box (network appliance I 
guess) running Mikrotik take a dump so we need to get another backup (or two).  
Nobody seems to have i7 based Mikrotik boxes available.  BGP is a must.  We’re 
running CHR on our current boxes.

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7



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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF

It runs 32 bit in emulation is what I heard.  i.e. worse performance than 
native 32bit..  



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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Well, I did expect it to match the RB4011, or even best it a bit. Alas, it was 
not to be. Disappointing...

Jared

> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020
> From: "Dennis Burgess via AF" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Cc: "Dennis Burgess" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
> I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004
> https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161044
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread Chuck Macenski

https://web.archive.org/web/20080227224025/http://www.incb.org/pdf/e/list/red.pdf

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 4:50 PM  wrote:

> It appears not all of Utah either.  Just some counties.  I think it has to
> do perhaps with making meth or huffing.
>
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:46 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* OT I need a smuggler
>
> For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me anymore.  They
> say not to Utah...
> That is my #1 adhesive for ABS plastic parts.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread Ken Hohhof

Methyl Ethyl Ketone?  Nasty stuff.  Don't inhale.  Probably flammable as all
heck also.

 

Is it banned for sale in Utah, or just not shippable?

 

Are you just needing modest quantities, or 55 gallon drums?  Hardware stores
and paint stores used to carry it, but probably not anymore.  Can you use
any ketone, like acetone?  Not sure that's any easier to get.  It's used as
lacquer thinner, but I think lacquer thinners have other stuff in them, not
pure acetone.

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:47 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
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For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me anymore.  They say
not to Utah...

That is my #1 adhesive for ABS plastic parts.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette

2020-05-12 Thread Jaime Solorza

Lol...it's the Aliens

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 4:01 PM James Howard  wrote:

> We know you were just taunting us…..
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:35 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Cheese, Onion and Jalapeno Omelette
>
>
>
> It didn't post first time...you know since Pentagon disclosed that UFOs
> are real, things are weird .
>
>
>
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>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 9:18 AM Jaime Solorza 
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> Yum with fresh made flour tortillas
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
Like the big mother mower we ordered a few years ago. They
  wouldn't ship it to California. 

Heard a rumor you could ship it to your brother in a different
  state, and he might ship it privately though.


bp



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  For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me
anymore.  They say not to Utah...
  That is my #1 adhesive for ABS plastic parts.  

  
  
  

  


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[AFMUG] Fw: OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread chuck

Just bought some from the dark web (Ebay)...

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:49 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: OT I need a smuggler

It appears not all of Utah either.  Just some counties.  I think it has to do 
perhaps with making meth or huffing.  

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:46 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: OT I need a smuggler

For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me anymore.  They say not 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread chuck

A pint will last years at my current rate of use.  
I think I have some coming.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:05 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

Methyl Ethyl Ketone?  Nasty stuff.  Don’t inhale.  Probably flammable as all 
heck also.

Is it banned for sale in Utah, or just not shippable?

Are you just needing modest quantities, or 55 gallon drums?  Hardware stores 
and paint stores used to carry it, but probably not anymore.  Can you use any 
ketone, like acetone?  Not sure that’s any easier to get.  It’s used as lacquer 
thinner, but I think lacquer thinners have other stuff in them, not pure 
acetone.

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:47 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me anymore.  They say not 
to Utah...

That is my #1 adhesive for ABS plastic parts.  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread chuck

You can’t have a Big Mother Mower but you can have a Big Ass Fan?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:13 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

Like the big mother mower we ordered a few years ago. They wouldn't ship it to 
California. 

Heard a rumor you could ship it to your brother in a different state, and he 
might ship it privately though.

bp

On 5/12/2020 2:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me anymore.  They say 
not to Utah...
  That is my #1 adhesive for ABS plastic parts.  

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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread fiberrun

Sometimes I wonder about the business practices of Mikrotik...

> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 
> From: "Dennis Burgess via AF" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Cc: "Dennis Burgess" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
> It runs 32 bit in emulation is what I heard.  i.e. worse performance than 
> native 32bit..  
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Burgess
> 
> Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless Engineer, 
> Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, Security Engineer, 
> Enterprise Wireless Engineer
> Hurricane Electric: IPv6 Sage Level
> Cambium: ePMP 
> 
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” 
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 
> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:13 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
> 
> Well, I did expect it to match the RB4011, or even best it a bit. Alas, it 
> was not to be. Disappointing...
> 
> Jared
> 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020
> > From: "Dennis Burgess via AF" 
> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> > Cc: "Dennis Burgess" 
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
> >
> > I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dennis Burgess
> > 
> > Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless 
> > Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, 
> > Security Engineer, Enterprise Wireless Engineer Hurricane Electric: 
> > IPv6 Sage Level
> > Cambium: ePMP
> > 
> > Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" 
> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> > Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net Create 
> > Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:51 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
> > 
> > Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004
> > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161044
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread Bill Prince


  
  
You've possibly got raccoons making meth in the basement...

bp



On 5/12/2020 3:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
I found this in my basement.  It is very
  old.  I don’t remember why I have it.  Is this what you’d use
  to glue Plexiglas pieces together?  Unless I painted something
  with lacquer and used this to clean the brush.
 
The can is empty.  It must have evaporated
  though the metal can, there’s no way I used it all and then
  put the empty can back on the shelf.  Does that mean we’ve
  been inhaling low levels of MEK in the house for decades? 
  That would explain a lot.
 
 

  
From: AF
   On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:16 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler
  

 

  

  A pint will last
  years at my current rate of use.  


  I think I have
  some coming.  


  

   


  
From:
Ken Hohhof 
  
  
Sent:
Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:05 PM
  
  
To:
'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  
  
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler
  

  
  
 
  


  Methyl
  Ethyl Ketone?  Nasty stuff.  Don’t inhale.  Probably
  flammable as all heck also.
   
  Is it
  banned for sale in Utah, or just not shippable?
   
  Are you
  just needing modest quantities, or 55 gallon drums? 
  Hardware stores and paint stores used to carry it, but
  probably not anymore.  Can you use any ketone, like
  acetone?  Not sure that’s any easier to get.  It’s
  used as lacquer thinner, but I think lacquer thinners
  have other stuff in them, not pure acetone.
   
   
  

  From: AF 
  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:47 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

  
   
  

  
For some
reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me
anymore.  They say not to Utah...
  
  
That is my
#1 adhesive for ABS plastic parts.  
  

  
  
  
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread Mike Hammett

That's only until v7, when it'll run native. 




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From: fiber...@mail.com 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:16:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 

Sometimes I wonder about the business practices of Mikrotik... 

> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 
> From: "Dennis Burgess via AF"  
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
> Cc: "Dennis Burgess"  
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 
> 
> It runs 32 bit in emulation is what I heard. i.e. worse performance than 
> native 32bit.. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Burgess 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: AF  On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:13 AM 
> To: af@af.afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 
> 
> Well, I did expect it to match the RB4011, or even best it a bit. Alas, it 
> was not to be. Disappointing... 
> 
> Jared 
> 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 
> > From: "Dennis Burgess via AF"  
> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
> > Cc: "Dennis Burgess"  
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out 
> > 
> > I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dennis Burgess 
> > 
> > Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless 
> > Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, 
> > Security Engineer, Enterprise Wireless Engineer Hurricane Electric: 
> > IPv6 Sage Level 
> > Cambium: ePMP 
> > 
> > Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" 
> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 
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[AFMUG] T-Mobile boasts 2.5 GHz momentum right out of the gate | FierceWireless

2020-05-12 Thread Jaime Solorza

https://www.fiercewireless.com/5g/t-mobile-boasts-2-5-ghz-momentum-right-out-gate
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler

2020-05-12 Thread Steve Jones

My cousin sells all kinds of chemicals, not to me... but to businesses.
Stuff well outside my scope or passable background check to get

On Tue, May 12, 2020, 5:57 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> You've possibly got raccoons making meth in the basement...
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/12/2020 3:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> I found this in my basement.  It is very old.  I don’t remember why I have
> it.  Is this what you’d use to glue Plexiglas pieces together?  Unless I
> painted something with lacquer and used this to clean the brush.
>
>
>
> The can is empty.  It must have evaporated though the metal can, there’s
> no way I used it all and then put the empty can back on the shelf.  Does
> that mean we’ve been inhaling low levels of MEK in the house for decades?
> That would explain a lot.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:16 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler
>
>
>
> A pint will last years at my current rate of use.
>
> I think I have some coming.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:05 PM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler
>
>
>
> Methyl Ethyl Ketone?  Nasty stuff.  Don’t inhale.  Probably flammable as
> all heck also.
>
>
>
> Is it banned for sale in Utah, or just not shippable?
>
>
>
> Are you just needing modest quantities, or 55 gallon drums?  Hardware
> stores and paint stores used to carry it, but probably not anymore.  Can
> you use any ketone, like acetone?  Not sure that’s any easier to get.  It’s
> used as lacquer thinner, but I think lacquer thinners have other stuff in
> them, not pure acetone.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:47 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT I need a smuggler
>
>
>
> For some reason, no supplier will ship MEK solvent to me anymore.  They
> say not to Utah...
>
> That is my #1 adhesive for ABS plastic parts.
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Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-12 Thread fiberrun

People keep talking about ROS v7 like it's a thing that actually exists... :)
 
 
 

Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

That's only until v7, when it'll run native.
 

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From: fiber...@mail.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:16:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Sometimes I wonder about the business practices of Mikrotik...

> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020
> From: "Dennis Burgess via AF" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Cc: "Dennis Burgess" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
> It runs 32 bit in emulation is what I heard.  i.e. worse performance than 
> native 32bit..  
>
>
>
> Dennis Burgess
>
> Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless Engineer, 
> Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, Security Engineer, 
> Enterprise Wireless Engineer
> Hurricane Electric: IPv6 Sage Level
> Cambium: ePMP
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
> http://www.linktechs.net[http://www.linktechs.net]
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with 
> www.towercoverage.com[http://www.towercoverage.com]
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:13 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
> Well, I did expect it to match the RB4011, or even best it a bit. Alas, it 
> was not to be. Disappointing...
>
> Jared
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020
> > From: "Dennis Burgess via AF" 
> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> > Cc: "Dennis Burgess" 
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
> >
> > I would not expect it to be "AWSOME" till v7
> >
> >
> >
> > Dennis Burgess
> >
> > Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless
> > Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer,
> > Security Engineer, Enterprise Wireless Engineer Hurricane Electric:
> > IPv6 Sage Level
> > Cambium: ePMP
> >
> > Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition"
> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> > Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
> > http://www.linktechs.net[http://www.linktechs.net] Create
> > Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com[http://www.towercoverage.com]
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:51 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
> >
> > Surprisingly bad BGP results from the CCR2004
> > https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161044[https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=161044]
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