Re: Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

[rees_chris]

Hi

I did exactly this last week but I used migratepv instead of the mirroring 
approach. I was moving from ds8100 to ds8870.  Mirroring method will be fine.

Cheers


Sent from Samsung Mobile

 Original message 
From: Roger Deschner 
Date:21/03/2014  03:35  (GMT+00:00)
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

Now that TSM V5 is gone from our shop and we're all TSM V6.2, it's time
to move some things around. Such as the TSM DB2 database. The manual
says to do a full database backup and restore. That could take days of
downtime with our 150-300GB databases, and a lot of angst, so that is
not really acceptable.

What I'm planning to do instead, is what I've always done on AIX. It's
one of the reasons I like AIX for hosting something like TSM. That is,
to basically walk the database over to the new location using AIX LVM
mirroring. All this with TSM up and running, albeit with a performance
impact. (It's Spring Break, so the performance impact is acceptable.)
The end result will be that the database has exactly the same Unix
filesystem names, path names, and file names as before, except that it
will be on a nice new faster disk subsystem.

Other than the obvious performance impact while AIX LVM is doing the
mirroring, is there anything wrong with moving a TSM DB2 database by
this method? Anybody done this and had problems?

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu
==I have not lost my mind -- it is backed up on tape somewhere.=

Re: LAN-free to disk

[Loon, EJ van (SPLXM) - KLM]

Hi Joerg!
Thank you very much for your reply!
Strange thing is that I cannot find anything about this in the TSM manuals, nor 
can I find a technote how to setup something like that...
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
AF/KLM Storage Engineering


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Joerg 
Pohlmann
Sent: donderdag 20 maart 2014 16:20
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: LAN-free to disk

Eric, you can use GPFS.

Joerg

- Original Message -

From: "EJ van Loon (SPLXM) - KLM" 
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:58:31 AM
Subject: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk

Hi guys!
I read in several IBM documents lines like "TSM also supports some 
configurations with LAN-free to disk-based storage pools" and "...
If you are implementing one of TSM's supported LAN-free to disk solutions..." 
but I cannot find any details about these "supported configurations".
I know one had to buy Sanergy in the past, but as far as I can see it no longer 
exists...
Thanks in advance for your reply!
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
AF/KLM Storage Engineering

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Re: LAN-free to disk

[Loon, EJ van (SPLXM) - KLM]

Hi Angela!
Both articles talk about LAN-free to tape, not to disk...
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
AF/KLM Storage Engineering

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Angela 
Robertson
Sent: vrijdag 21 maart 2014 0:23
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: LAN-free to disk

There is an article in the TSM wiki re: using LAN-free with TSM VE:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang=en#!/wiki/Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager/page/Recommendations%20for%20Using%20LAN-free%20with%20Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager%20for%20Virtual%20Environments


There's also info in the IBM Knowledge Center at 
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7_7.1.0/com.ibm.itsm.srv.doc/t_lanfree_config_win.html
. If you want LAN-free info for FlashCopy Manager, I can post links, but I 
don't think that's the question.

If you cannot find what you want in the IBM Knowledge Center, you can use the 
Feedback link at the bottom. When you use that Feedback link, the people who 
write the information are supposed to get the feedback. We can get the content 
you need published. Angela

Angela Robertson
IBM Software Group
Durham, NC 27703
aprob...@us.ibm.com


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 03/20/2014
11:20:18 AM:

> From: Joerg Pohlmann 
> To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
> Date: 03/20/2014 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor 
> Manager" 
>
> Eric, you can use GPFS.
>
> Joerg
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "EJ van Loon (SPLXM) - KLM" 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:58:31 AM
> Subject: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk
>
> Hi guys!
> I read in several IBM documents lines like "TSM also supports some 
> configurations with LAN-free to disk-based storage pools" and "...
> If you are implementing one of TSM's supported LAN-free to disk 
> solutions..." but I cannot find any details about these "supported 
> configurations".
> I know one had to buy Sanergy in the past, but as far as I can see it 
> no longer exists...
> Thanks in advance for your reply!
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> AF/KLM Storage Engineering
> 
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Re: LAN-free to disk

[Angela Robertson]

Hi Eric,

I'm not an expert on this topic so bear with me... Perhaps I found the
information you're looking for?
https://www-03preprod.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7_6.4.0/com.ibm.itsm.sta.doc/c_env_file_dev_share.html

Other versions of this topic (for example, newer versions) can be found by
scrolling to the bottom of the topic. Between the topic and the comments
section, there's a drop-down labeled 'Other Versions.' You can see how this
topic has changed with each release for which it was published / updated.
Angela

Angela Robertson
IBM Software Group
Durham, NC 27703
aprob...@us.ibm.com


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 03/21/2014
05:35:34 AM:

> From: "Loon, EJ van (SPLXM) - KLM" 
> To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
> Date: 03/21/2014 06:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>
> Hi Angela!
> Both articles talk about LAN-free to tape, not to disk...
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> AF/KLM Storage Engineering
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Angela Robertson
> Sent: vrijdag 21 maart 2014 0:23
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: LAN-free to disk
>
> There is an article in the TSM wiki re: using LAN-free with TSM VE:
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang=en#!/
> wiki/Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager/page/Recommendations%20for%20Using%
>
20LAN-free%20with%20Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager%20for%20Virtual%20Environments

>
>
> There's also info in the IBM Knowledge Center at http://
> www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7_7.1.0/
> com.ibm.itsm.srv.doc/t_lanfree_config_win.html
> . If you want LAN-free info for FlashCopy Manager, I can post links,
> but I don't think that's the question.
>
> If you cannot find what you want in the IBM Knowledge Center, you
> can use the Feedback link at the bottom. When you use that Feedback
> link, the people who write the information are supposed to get the
> feedback. We can get the content you need published. Angela
> 
> Angela Robertson
> IBM Software Group
> Durham, NC 27703
> aprob...@us.ibm.com
> 
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 03/20/2014
> 11:20:18 AM:
>
> > From: Joerg Pohlmann 
> > To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
> > Date: 03/20/2014 11:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor
> > Manager" 
> >
> > Eric, you can use GPFS.
> >
> > Joerg
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >
> > From: "EJ van Loon (SPLXM) - KLM" 
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:58:31 AM
> > Subject: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk
> >
> > Hi guys!
> > I read in several IBM documents lines like "TSM also supports some
> > configurations with LAN-free to disk-based storage pools" and "...
> > If you are implementing one of TSM's supported LAN-free to disk
> > solutions..." but I cannot find any details about these "supported
> > configurations".
> > I know one had to buy Sanergy in the past, but as far as I can see it
> > no longer exists...
> > Thanks in advance for your reply!
> > Kind regards,
> > Eric van Loon
> > AF/KLM Storage Engineering
> > 
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> >
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Re: Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

[Ehresman,David E.]

I've used migratepv to move oracle DBs around with no problems.  I would not 
expect any issues with using LVM mirroring or migratepv to move the TSM DB.  
That is what I would do in your situation.

But your comments about taking days to backup and restore your TSM DB worries 
me.  How long does it take to backup your DB?  I have a 600G allocated/415G 
used TSM DB.  It backs up in under an hour and restore time is about the same.

David Ehresman
University of Louisville

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger 
Deschner
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:35 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

Now that TSM V5 is gone from our shop and we're all TSM V6.2, it's time
to move some things around. Such as the TSM DB2 database. The manual
says to do a full database backup and restore. That could take days of
downtime with our 150-300GB databases, and a lot of angst, so that is
not really acceptable.

What I'm planning to do instead, is what I've always done on AIX. It's
one of the reasons I like AIX for hosting something like TSM. That is,
to basically walk the database over to the new location using AIX LVM
mirroring. All this with TSM up and running, albeit with a performance
impact. (It's Spring Break, so the performance impact is acceptable.)
The end result will be that the database has exactly the same Unix
filesystem names, path names, and file names as before, except that it
will be on a nice new faster disk subsystem.

Other than the obvious performance impact while AIX LVM is doing the
mirroring, is there anything wrong with moving a TSM DB2 database by
this method? Anybody done this and had problems?

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu
==I have not lost my mind -- it is backed up on tape somewhere.=

Re: LAN-free to disk

[J. Pohlmann]

Eric, you can find LAN-free to disk info in the Storage Agent Guide, and
also a couple of comments in the Admin Guide. With GPFS, the only non-SAN
transfer is if your environment has a Windows Storage Agent on GPFS. Windows
in GPFS transfers across TCP/IP (it's not a TSM function but rather a GPFS
on Windows function).

Regards,

Joerg Pohlmann.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Loon, EJ van (SPLXM) - KLM
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 02:36
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk

Hi Angela!
Both articles talk about LAN-free to tape, not to disk...
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
AF/KLM Storage Engineering

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Angela Robertson
Sent: vrijdag 21 maart 2014 0:23
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: LAN-free to disk

There is an article in the TSM wiki re: using LAN-free with TSM VE:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang=en#!/wiki/Tivol
i%20Storage%20Manager/page/Recommendations%20for%20Using%20LAN-free%20with%2
0Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager%20for%20Virtual%20Environments


There's also info in the IBM Knowledge Center at
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7_7.1.0/com.ibm.itsm.srv.
doc/t_lanfree_config_win.html
. If you want LAN-free info for FlashCopy Manager, I can post links, but I
don't think that's the question.

If you cannot find what you want in the IBM Knowledge Center, you can use
the Feedback link at the bottom. When you use that Feedback link, the people
who write the information are supposed to get the feedback. We can get the
content you need published. Angela

Angela Robertson
IBM Software Group
Durham, NC 27703
aprob...@us.ibm.com


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 03/20/2014
11:20:18 AM:

> From: Joerg Pohlmann 
> To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
> Date: 03/20/2014 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor
> Manager" 
>
> Eric, you can use GPFS.
>
> Joerg
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "EJ van Loon (SPLXM) - KLM" 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:58:31 AM
> Subject: [ADSM-L] LAN-free to disk
>
> Hi guys!
> I read in several IBM documents lines like "TSM also supports some
> configurations with LAN-free to disk-based storage pools" and "...
> If you are implementing one of TSM's supported LAN-free to disk
> solutions..." but I cannot find any details about these "supported
> configurations".
> I know one had to buy Sanergy in the past, but as far as I can see it
> no longer exists...
> Thanks in advance for your reply!
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> AF/KLM Storage Engineering
> 
> For information, services and offers, please visit our web site:
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> 
>

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File retention

[Tom Taylor]

Hello,

TSM 6.3.4.3 on Windows 2008 R2


I'm wondering if someone can direct me to a document or the area of the
admin guide that has this info. I feel like I have read and re-read that
thing and am getting nowhere. I thought the answer was management classes
but I cannot find how to do it...




... and it is...

I have a primary storage pool called "BACKUPS" it is on-site disk.

I have a copy pool called "OFFSITETAPE" and as its name suggests it is a
tape library and we will send tapes offsite.


I want to use OFFSITETAPE to backup BACKUPS.


What I want to accomplish is I want to set the primary pool to keep10
versions of files for 30 days, and 10 versions of inactive files also for
30 days, and keep the last version for 30 days, but I want the copy pool
to keep teh last version of an inactive file FOREVER.


I want this because I want to conserve space in the primary disk pool, but
the tape copy pool has a LOT more room, so I want to keep files in there
longer. Also I am required to keep a permanent backups of ALL files
forever... i.e. I want to keep the last version forever, but I do not have
room in the primary disk pool to keep every file forever. This is why I
want to expire old files in the primary including the last version but
expire everything in teh tape copy pool also EXCEPT FOR the final inactive
version of a deleted file.




Can this be done? Have I just overlooked it in the guide?



Thanks!







Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768

Re: File retention

[Nick Laflamme]

It doesn't work that way.

If you want to keep a copy of inactive files on tape forever, you need to
have a primary storage pool on tape (call it "ONSITE" for the purpose of
this note).  So, BACKUPS will migrate data to ONSITE. You'll also use
BACKUP STG to populate OFFSITETAPE, mostly from BACKUPS, but possibly from
ONSITE just to be safe.

You can use a migration delay on ONSITE to keep recent (<30 days, if you
want) files from migrating tape, but eventually some active files will
migrate to ONSITE.

It might make more sense to use your disk storage as an ACTIVEDATA storage
pool, not a long-term primary storage pool. Your inactive data would still
go to tape, but your active data, even the oldest, would be on disk (as
well as on tape).

Hope this helps,
Nick



On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Tom Taylor  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> TSM 6.3.4.3 on Windows 2008 R2
>
>
> I'm wondering if someone can direct me to a document or the area of the
> admin guide that has this info. I feel like I have read and re-read that
> thing and am getting nowhere. I thought the answer was management classes
> but I cannot find how to do it...
>
>
>
>
> ... and it is...
>
> I have a primary storage pool called "BACKUPS" it is on-site disk.
>
> I have a copy pool called "OFFSITETAPE" and as its name suggests it is a
> tape library and we will send tapes offsite.
>
>
> I want to use OFFSITETAPE to backup BACKUPS.
>
>
> What I want to accomplish is I want to set the primary pool to keep10
> versions of files for 30 days, and 10 versions of inactive files also for
> 30 days, and keep the last version for 30 days, but I want the copy pool
> to keep teh last version of an inactive file FOREVER.
>
>
> I want this because I want to conserve space in the primary disk pool, but
> the tape copy pool has a LOT more room, so I want to keep files in there
> longer. Also I am required to keep a permanent backups of ALL files
> forever... i.e. I want to keep the last version forever, but I do not have
> room in the primary disk pool to keep every file forever. This is why I
> want to expire old files in the primary including the last version but
> expire everything in teh tape copy pool also EXCEPT FOR the final inactive
> version of a deleted file.
>
>
>
>
> Can this be done? Have I just overlooked it in the guide?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thomas Taylor
> System Administrator
> Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
> Cell (443)-974-5768
>

Re: File retention

[Tom Taylor]

It does thank you, I thought though that migration was only for overflow.
Also, I already have the local disk set up as a primary pool... If I do
not have more disk space to make a new active pool would I need to wipe
out the current disk primary pool in order to make this new active data
pool?








Thomas Taylor
System Administrator
Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
Cell (443)-974-5768



From:
Nick Laflamme 
To:
ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU,
Date:
03/21/2014 02:50 PM
Subject:
Re: [ADSM-L] File retention
Sent by:
"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 



It doesn't work that way.

If you want to keep a copy of inactive files on tape forever, you need to
have a primary storage pool on tape (call it "ONSITE" for the purpose of
this note).  So, BACKUPS will migrate data to ONSITE. You'll also use
BACKUP STG to populate OFFSITETAPE, mostly from BACKUPS, but possibly from
ONSITE just to be safe.

You can use a migration delay on ONSITE to keep recent (<30 days, if you
want) files from migrating tape, but eventually some active files will
migrate to ONSITE.

It might make more sense to use your disk storage as an ACTIVEDATA storage
pool, not a long-term primary storage pool. Your inactive data would still
go to tape, but your active data, even the oldest, would be on disk (as
well as on tape).

Hope this helps,
Nick



On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Tom Taylor 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> TSM 6.3.4.3 on Windows 2008 R2
>
>
> I'm wondering if someone can direct me to a document or the area of the
> admin guide that has this info. I feel like I have read and re-read that
> thing and am getting nowhere. I thought the answer was management
classes
> but I cannot find how to do it...
>
>
>
>
> ... and it is...
>
> I have a primary storage pool called "BACKUPS" it is on-site disk.
>
> I have a copy pool called "OFFSITETAPE" and as its name suggests it is a
> tape library and we will send tapes offsite.
>
>
> I want to use OFFSITETAPE to backup BACKUPS.
>
>
> What I want to accomplish is I want to set the primary pool to keep10
> versions of files for 30 days, and 10 versions of inactive files also
for
> 30 days, and keep the last version for 30 days, but I want the copy pool
> to keep teh last version of an inactive file FOREVER.
>
>
> I want this because I want to conserve space in the primary disk pool,
but
> the tape copy pool has a LOT more room, so I want to keep files in there
> longer. Also I am required to keep a permanent backups of ALL files
> forever... i.e. I want to keep the last version forever, but I do not
have
> room in the primary disk pool to keep every file forever. This is why I
> want to expire old files in the primary including the last version but
> expire everything in teh tape copy pool also EXCEPT FOR the final
inactive
> version of a deleted file.
>
>
>
>
> Can this be done? Have I just overlooked it in the guide?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thomas Taylor
> System Administrator
> Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
> Cell (443)-974-5768
>

Re: File retention

[Nick Laflamme]

I don't remember if you can shrink a DISK pool with DELETE VOLUME or not. I
think so, but I won't swear to it.

Most people use DISK for short-term storage (overnight, typically) so they
don't have to wait for the tape drives to keep up with incoming traffic and
use FILE for longer-term storage; FILE is a relatively recent addition to
TSM (last decade or so :-) ) that I presume you're using for your long term
storage. If that's the case, I'm sure you can DELETE VOLUME on empty
volumes to recover some of that space so you can use it for the active
pool. Alternately, migrate all the primary data to tape (the new ONSITE
pool!) so they're all empty. Restores would be relatively slow until you
populate the active pool, but that might not be noticeable to anyone.

Others probably have better ideas than me, but I wanted to speak up so you
didn't cling too long to some misconceptions. (I'm no longer an active TSM
administrator, so double-check all of my ideas before rushing too far too
quickly.)

Nick



On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Tom Taylor  wrote:

> It does thank you, I thought though that migration was only for overflow.
> Also, I already have the local disk set up as a primary pool... If I do
> not have more disk space to make a new active pool would I need to wipe
> out the current disk primary pool in order to make this new active data
> pool?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thomas Taylor
> System Administrator
> Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
> Cell (443)-974-5768
>
>
>
> From:
> Nick Laflamme 
> To:
> ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU,
> Date:
> 03/21/2014 02:50 PM
> Subject:
> Re: [ADSM-L] File retention
> Sent by:
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>
>
>
> It doesn't work that way.
>
> If you want to keep a copy of inactive files on tape forever, you need to
> have a primary storage pool on tape (call it "ONSITE" for the purpose of
> this note).  So, BACKUPS will migrate data to ONSITE. You'll also use
> BACKUP STG to populate OFFSITETAPE, mostly from BACKUPS, but possibly from
> ONSITE just to be safe.
>
> You can use a migration delay on ONSITE to keep recent (<30 days, if you
> want) files from migrating tape, but eventually some active files will
> migrate to ONSITE.
>
> It might make more sense to use your disk storage as an ACTIVEDATA storage
> pool, not a long-term primary storage pool. Your inactive data would still
> go to tape, but your active data, even the oldest, would be on disk (as
> well as on tape).
>
> Hope this helps,
> Nick
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Tom Taylor 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > TSM 6.3.4.3 on Windows 2008 R2
> >
> >
> > I'm wondering if someone can direct me to a document or the area of the
> > admin guide that has this info. I feel like I have read and re-read that
> > thing and am getting nowhere. I thought the answer was management
> classes
> > but I cannot find how to do it...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ... and it is...
> >
> > I have a primary storage pool called "BACKUPS" it is on-site disk.
> >
> > I have a copy pool called "OFFSITETAPE" and as its name suggests it is a
> > tape library and we will send tapes offsite.
> >
> >
> > I want to use OFFSITETAPE to backup BACKUPS.
> >
> >
> > What I want to accomplish is I want to set the primary pool to keep10
> > versions of files for 30 days, and 10 versions of inactive files also
> for
> > 30 days, and keep the last version for 30 days, but I want the copy pool
> > to keep teh last version of an inactive file FOREVER.
> >
> >
> > I want this because I want to conserve space in the primary disk pool,
> but
> > the tape copy pool has a LOT more room, so I want to keep files in there
> > longer. Also I am required to keep a permanent backups of ALL files
> > forever... i.e. I want to keep the last version forever, but I do not
> have
> > room in the primary disk pool to keep every file forever. This is why I
> > want to expire old files in the primary including the last version but
> > expire everything in teh tape copy pool also EXCEPT FOR the final
> inactive
> > version of a deleted file.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Can this be done? Have I just overlooked it in the guide?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thomas Taylor
> > System Administrator
> > Jos. A. Bank Clothiers
> > Cell (443)-974-5768
> >
>

Re: Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

[Prather, Wanda]

Was just thinking the same -
It's only the conversion from V5 to V6 that takes forever.  Once you are 
V6/DB2, DB backup-restore is fast again.

I have TSM 6.3.4 on Windows, DB is 930G used, DS3512 disk, and it will back up 
to LTO5 in 90 minutes if the server isn't doing a lot else at the time.  
Restore takes maybe 15 minutes longer.   

You've got other issues you should address, if your DB backup is taking many 
hours @ 300GB

W


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Ehresman,David E.
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:11 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

I've used migratepv to move oracle DBs around with no problems.  I would not 
expect any issues with using LVM mirroring or migratepv to move the TSM DB.  
That is what I would do in your situation.

But your comments about taking days to backup and restore your TSM DB worries 
me.  How long does it take to backup your DB?  I have a 600G allocated/415G 
used TSM DB.  It backs up in under an hour and restore time is about the same.

David Ehresman
University of Louisville

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger 
Deschner
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:35 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Moving the TSM DB2 database (AIX)

Now that TSM V5 is gone from our shop and we're all TSM V6.2, it's time to move 
some things around. Such as the TSM DB2 database. The manual says to do a full 
database backup and restore. That could take days of downtime with our 
150-300GB databases, and a lot of angst, so that is not really acceptable.

What I'm planning to do instead, is what I've always done on AIX. It's one of 
the reasons I like AIX for hosting something like TSM. That is, to basically 
walk the database over to the new location using AIX LVM mirroring. All this 
with TSM up and running, albeit with a performance impact. (It's Spring Break, 
so the performance impact is acceptable.) The end result will be that the 
database has exactly the same Unix filesystem names, path names, and file names 
as before, except that it will be on a nice new faster disk subsystem.

Other than the obvious performance impact while AIX LVM is doing the mirroring, 
is there anything wrong with moving a TSM DB2 database by this method? Anybody 
done this and had problems?

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu
==I have not lost my mind -- it is backed up on tape somewhere.=

Re: TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"

[Prather, Wanda]

OH, bimps.
Glad to know that before I did all the work, you just saved me a lot of effort 
and I thank you.

So when you got down that road, what did you end up doing instead?

Only other thing I can think of is to install the BA client in the guest and do 
an incremental once a month?

W


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of John 
Monahan
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:47 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"

If you backup to a different nodename you will reset the CBT info. So you can 
do that monthly full backup to the different nodename, but when you switch back 
to the original, it will also require a full. So in essence you need to do 2 
back to back fulls to get this done. I've been down this road. 



___
John Monahan
Professional Services Consultant
Logicalis, Inc. 



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 11:43 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: TSM for VE and "monthly fulls"

Would like to know if anyone has solved the conundrum of TSM VE and customers 
who want "monthly fulls" in the vault for a year or more.

Now I know that's a bad idea, and it doesn't play well with TSM 
incremental-forever.  But still there are customers who insist, or have 
managers with ill-thought-out pseudo-requirements for it, or parent firms who 
insist on it.  And I can work those issues with backupsets or exports or 
nodename-monthly node owners or sometimes even archives for other types of data.

But I have not been able to do an export on deduped VE filespaces.  It takes so 
long and puts on so many locks it has to be cancelled.
So I'm pondering the idea of doing a true VM full, to a different datamover 
with a different filespace owner.  But I don't really like that idea either 
because the full will have the snapshot outstanding for a long time, and the 
scheduling will be tricky so we don't overlap the incremental snapshots.

SO, anybody else have insight into this particular can of worms?

Thanks
Wanda

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