Re: MPIO for tape libraries

2009-10-12 Thread David McClelland
Mehdi,

>>> Does defining logical tape drives helps eliminating this single point of
failure such that if during client backup the fiber connection of drive
fails, another tape drive in the library takes over the operation?

Okay, the quote from the Redbook below may have misled you in this case: a
'logical tape library' as you describe below is quite different to the
concept you describe as a logical tape drive, it is how IBM describe their
library partitioning. Here, creating 'logical libraries' (i.e. a library
partition) will allow you to share a single physical library amongst, for
example, Netbackup, Mainframe and TSM applications and the partitioning is
managed by the library itself (e.g. with ALMS in a TS3500/3584) and has
nothing to do with any virtualisation/logical definitions within TSM or the
OS. The tape drives themselves here are not virtualised: you're still
accessing a *physical* tape drive device, and a failure of a physical LTO
drive, or the path to it, will still result in that path/drive going offline
- potentially interrupting a data movement operation, although as Steven has
also pointed out, TSM's normally pretty hot on these and may retry the
operation on a different drive.

Hope that helps,

/DMc
London, UK



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Mehdi Salehi
Sent: 12 October 2009 06:42
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] MPIO for tape libraries

For logical tape libraries, please look at this excerpt from SG24-5946-06:
" Multiple logical libraries are an effective way for the library to
simultaneously back up and
restore data from heterogeneous applications. For example, the library can
be partitioned so
that it processes:

   - Commands from Application 1 (about Department X) in Logical Library A
   - Commands from Application 2 (about Department Y) in Logical Library B
   - Commands from Application 3 (about Department Z) in Logical Library C

In this configuration, the storage slots and drives in each logical library
are dedicated to that
library and are not shared among other libraries. Commands issued by the
applications travel
to the library through three unique control paths. Thus, the data processing
for:

   - Department X is confined to the storage slots and drives in Logical
   Library A
   - Department Y is confined to the storage slots and drives in Logical
   Library B
   - Department Z is confined to the storage slots and drives in Logical
   Library C"

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-Original Message-
From: David McClelland [mailto:t...@networkc.co.uk]
Sent: 11 October 2009 18:18
To: 'ADSM: Dist Stor Manager'
Subject: RE: [ADSM-L] MPIO for tape libraries

I'm not quite sure I know what you mean by 'defining logical tape drives',
without a VTL or somesuch. Can you expand technically upon what you mean?

>From my experience, the majority of failures involving tape drives have been
down to drive/head mechanics failure or tape cartridge errors (although I
note that this seems to be increasingly uncommon these days), rather than
physical fiber component failure. In these instances, any amount of
multi-pathing can't help and you need to make sure that you have enough
spare capacity in your library/design to cope, and an alerting/support
process in place which can recognise it and get it resolved as quickly as
possible. Given that most of your backup clients will (presumably) initially
write to TSM-managed disk storage pools (except SAN Storage Agents and
perhaps NDMPs etc) hopefully a drive failure won't have a direct impact upon
a client backup data integrity, as TSM tends to be pretty precious about
this when performing migrations/data movement operations involving tapes.

/DMc

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Mehdi Salehi
Sent: 11 October 2009 17:13
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] MPIO for tape libraries

Thanks David, you made a good point about single fiber connections of LTO
drives. Does defining logical tape drives helps eliminating this single
point of failure such that if during client backup the fiber connection of
drive fails, another tape drive in the library takes over the operation?


SANergy with TSM 6.1

2009-10-12 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi,
Which version of SANergy is compatible with TSM 6.1? I could not find enough
information about SANergy except the old practical guide (June 2001)!

Thanks


snapdiff

2009-10-12 Thread Remco Post

Hi All,

I'm currently looking into the snapdiff feature of the TSM 6.1 client.
My customer is still running TSM server version 5.4, so I was looking
into the requirements for using the 6.1 client and the snapdiff
feature. Does anyone know if there is any dependancy on a specific
server version to be able to use the snapdiff feature?

--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl


Re: snapdiff

2009-10-12 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Have you tried to search in Internet?

For  example:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&uid=swg21392122&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en



Grigori G. Solonovitch



Senior Technical Architect



Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com



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Post
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:27 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] snapdiff



Hi All,



I'm currently looking into the snapdiff feature of the TSM 6.1 client.

My customer is still running TSM server version 5.4, so I was looking

into the requirements for using the 6.1 client and the snapdiff

feature. Does anyone know if there is any dependancy on a specific

server version to be able to use the snapdiff feature?



--

Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,



Remco Post

r.p...@plcs.nl



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Re: snapdiff

2009-10-12 Thread Remco Post

On 12 okt 2009, at 12:36, Grigori Solonovitch wrote:


Have you tried to search in Internet?

For  example:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&uid=swg21392122&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en




Where does this document list TSM server level requirements? I've
searched the TSM client manual, the TSM wiki and whatever google could
turn up. Since google reported that some people were actually
experimenting with snapdiff, I'd thought to ask the list as well



Hi All,



I'm currently looking into the snapdiff feature of the TSM 6.1 client.

My customer is still running TSM server version 5.4, so I was looking

into the requirements for using the 6.1 client and the snapdiff

feature. Does anyone know if there is any dependancy on a specific

server version to be able to use the snapdiff feature?



--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl


instrumentation for the server?

2009-10-12 Thread km
Hello,

I am currently analyzing a TSM server which uses 100% CPU on 4 cores
when doing client backups. Almost all of it is privileged times, but
there are very few IO's and low disk queues for both stgpools, db and log.

Are there any trace flags similar to the client testflag instrument:detail
but for the server that will allow me to see what the server is spending
time on?

I've been looking in the problem determination guide but cant find any
flag similar to instrument_detail except for 'instr' which isnt documented
and only gives me DB LATCHes.

-km


Re: instrumentation for the server?

2009-10-12 Thread Lindsay Morris
I once saw this when we had set BUFPOOLSIZE way too high.Giving the TSM
server lots of memory starved the OS for memory; things slowed down horribly
until we set BUFPOOLSIZE back to the Performance-tuning-guide
recommendations ( I forget - 1/4 of available memory?)


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:58 AM, km  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am currently analyzing a TSM server which uses 100% CPU on 4 cores
> when doing client backups. Almost all of it is privileged times, but
> there are very few IO's and low disk queues for both stgpools, db and log.
>
> Are there any trace flags similar to the client testflag instrument:detail
> but for the server that will allow me to see what the server is spending
> time on?
>
> I've been looking in the problem determination guide but cant find any
> flag similar to instrument_detail except for 'instr' which isnt documented
> and only gives me DB LATCHes.
>
> -km
>



--
Lindsay Morris
Principal
TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lind...@tsmworks.com


Re: snapdiff

2009-10-12 Thread Andrew Raibeck
The "Migrating from earlier versions" section near the beginning of the
client manual discusses the topic of which servers are supported with the
5.5 client (5.5 or 6.1). Alternatively see
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21053218

In theory the SnapDiff functionality should work with a 5.4 server (we are
not aware of any feature-wise limitations in this regard). However, as the
above item will indicate, 6.1 client and 5.4 server is not an officially
supported configuration.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html


The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 10/12/2009
06:46:53 AM:

> [image removed]
>
> Re: snapdiff
>
> Remco Post
>
> to:
>
> ADSM-L
>
> 10/12/2009 06:47 AM
>
> Sent by:
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>
> On 12 okt 2009, at 12:36, Grigori Solonovitch wrote:
>
> > Have you tried to search in Internet?
> >
> > For  example:
> >
> > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?
> rs=663&context=SSGSG7&uid=swg21392122&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en
> >
> >
>
> Where does this document list TSM server level requirements? I've
> searched the TSM client manual, the TSM wiki and whatever google could
> turn up. Since google reported that some people were actually
> experimenting with snapdiff, I'd thought to ask the list as well
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm currently looking into the snapdiff feature of the TSM 6.1 client.
> >
> > My customer is still running TSM server version 5.4, so I was looking
> >
> > into the requirements for using the 6.1 client and the snapdiff
> >
> > feature. Does anyone know if there is any dependancy on a specific
> >
> > server version to be able to use the snapdiff feature?
> >
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,
>
> Remco Post
> r.p...@plcs.nl

Re: Date, time and number format

2009-10-12 Thread Richard Sims

You should not add things to your options files which are not defined
as valid for your software.
DATEformat, NUMberformat, and TIMEformat have been obsolete
specifications since TSM 3.7, when such controls were transferred to
locale settings.

The Options table may evidence the options, though not even coded in
your server options file, apparently by virtue of some legacy server
software.

Richard Sims

On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:33 AM, Grigori Solonovitch wrote:


Hello Everybody,

I have TSM Server 5.5.3.0 under AIX 5.3.

"select * from options" gives:

OPTION_NAME: DateFormat
OPTION_VALUE: ?

OPTION_NAME: TimeFormat
OPTION_VALUE: ?

OPTION_NAME: NumberFormat
OPTION_VALUE: ?

I have in dsmserv.opt file:

DATEformat 1
TIMEformat 1
NUMberformat 1

I do not know from where we have "?" in TSM Server table.
What is this?


Re: instrumentation for the server?

2009-10-12 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Go to the link in my sig and do a search on:

   performance tuning information

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html


The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 10/12/2009
07:58:58 AM:

> [image removed]
>
> instrumentation for the server?
>
> km
>
> to:
>
> ADSM-L
>
> 10/12/2009 08:05 AM
>
> Sent by:
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>
> Hello,
>
> I am currently analyzing a TSM server which uses 100% CPU on 4 cores
> when doing client backups. Almost all of it is privileged times, but
> there are very few IO's and low disk queues for both stgpools, db and
log.
>
> Are there any trace flags similar to the client testflag
instrument:detail
> but for the server that will allow me to see what the server is spending
> time on?
>
> I've been looking in the problem determination guide but cant find any
> flag similar to instrument_detail except for 'instr' which isnt
documented
> and only gives me DB LATCHes.
>
> -km


Re: snapdiff

2009-10-12 Thread Remco Post

Andy,


thanks. I'm aware of the official support issue, I'll urge the
customer to upgrade the servers to 5.5.


On 12 okt 2009, at 14:38, Andrew Raibeck wrote:


The "Migrating from earlier versions" section near the beginning of
the
client manual discusses the topic of which servers are supported
with the
5.5 client (5.5 or 6.1). Alternatively see
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21053218

In theory the SnapDiff functionality should work with a 5.4 server
(we are
not aware of any feature-wise limitations in this regard). However,
as the
above item will indicate, 6.1 client and 5.4 server is not an
officially
supported configuration.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html


The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 10/12/2009
06:46:53 AM:


[image removed]

Re: snapdiff

Remco Post

to:

ADSM-L

10/12/2009 06:47 AM

Sent by:

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"

On 12 okt 2009, at 12:36, Grigori Solonovitch wrote:


Have you tried to search in Internet?

For  example:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?

rs=663&context=SSGSG7&uid=swg21392122&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en





Where does this document list TSM server level requirements? I've
searched the TSM client manual, the TSM wiki and whatever google
could
turn up. Since google reported that some people were actually
experimenting with snapdiff, I'd thought to ask the list as well



Hi All,



I'm currently looking into the snapdiff feature of the TSM 6.1
client.

My customer is still running TSM server version 5.4, so I was
looking

into the requirements for using the 6.1 client and the snapdiff

feature. Does anyone know if there is any dependancy on a specific

server version to be able to use the snapdiff feature?



--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl


--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl


Re: Date, time and number format

2009-10-12 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Our TSM Server was upgraded from previous versions many times, so maybe it is 
coming from there.

According to dsmserv.opt.smp in TSM 6.1.2 DATEFORMAT, TIMEFORMAT and 
NUMBERFORMAT are still used for z/OS.



Grigori G. Solonovitch



Senior Technical Architect



Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com



Phone: (+965) 2231-2274  Mobile: (+965) 99798073  E-Mail: g.solonovi...@bkme.com



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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
Richard Sims
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:41 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Date, time and number format



You should not add things to your options files which are not defined

as valid for your software.

DATEformat, NUMberformat, and TIMEformat have been obsolete

specifications since TSM 3.7, when such controls were transferred to

locale settings.



The Options table may evidence the options, though not even coded in

your server options file, apparently by virtue of some legacy server

software.



 Richard Sims



On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:33 AM, Grigori Solonovitch wrote:



> Hello Everybody,

>

> I have TSM Server 5.5.3.0 under AIX 5.3.

>

> "select * from options" gives:

>

> OPTION_NAME: DateFormat

> OPTION_VALUE: ?

>

> OPTION_NAME: TimeFormat

> OPTION_VALUE: ?

>

> OPTION_NAME: NumberFormat

> OPTION_VALUE: ?

>

> I have in dsmserv.opt file:

>

> DATEformat 1

> TIMEformat 1

> NUMberformat 1

>

> I do not know from where we have "?" in TSM Server table.

> What is this?



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Re: snapdiff

2009-10-12 Thread Tchuise, Bertaut
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Remco Post
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:45 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] snapdiff

Andy,
A teammate successfully implemented snapdiff in our storage environment.
He used the 6.1 client with our TSM servers running on 5.5.1.0; his
setup works flawlessly. He will be presenting on snapdiff at the next
TSMUG.

BERTAUT TCHUISE
TSM/NetApp Storage Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
*410-580-7032
btchu...@leggmason.com


thanks. I'm aware of the official support issue, I'll urge the customer
to upgrade the servers to 5.5.


On 12 okt 2009, at 14:38, Andrew Raibeck wrote:

> The "Migrating from earlier versions" section near the beginning of
> the client manual discusses the topic of which servers are supported
> with the
> 5.5 client (5.5 or 6.1). Alternatively see
> http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21053218
>
> In theory the SnapDiff functionality should work with a 5.4 server (we

> are not aware of any feature-wise limitations in this regard).
> However, as the above item will indicate, 6.1 client and 5.4 server is

> not an officially supported configuration.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus Internet
> e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com
>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageM
> anager.html
>
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 10/12/2009
> 06:46:53 AM:
>
>> [image removed]
>>
>> Re: snapdiff
>>
>> Remco Post
>>
>> to:
>>
>> ADSM-L
>>
>> 10/12/2009 06:47 AM
>>
>> Sent by:
>>
>> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>>
>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>>
>> On 12 okt 2009, at 12:36, Grigori Solonovitch wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried to search in Internet?
>>>
>>> For  example:
>>>
>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?
>> rs=663&context=SSGSG7&uid=swg21392122&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Where does this document list TSM server level requirements? I've
>> searched the TSM client manual, the TSM wiki and whatever google
>> could turn up. Since google reported that some people were actually
>> experimenting with snapdiff, I'd thought to ask the list as well
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm currently looking into the snapdiff feature of the TSM 6.1
>>> client.
>>>
>>> My customer is still running TSM server version 5.4, so I was
>>> looking
>>>
>>> into the requirements for using the 6.1 client and the snapdiff
>>>
>>> feature. Does anyone know if there is any dependancy on a specific
>>>
>>> server version to be able to use the snapdiff feature?
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,
>>
>> Remco Post
>> r.p...@plcs.nl

--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl

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Re: instrumentation for the server?

2009-10-12 Thread km
Yeah, I'm leaning towards memory or maybe network right now.

I'm seeing some of these during client backups:
ANR0132E smnode.c(27085): Memory allocation failed: object sessP->qryBuf, size 
1048576. (SESSION: 5518)

This is on a win32 system so 2GB mem is max. I'll try reducing the
bufpool to give TSM some more of those gigs and doing some instrumentation for
tonights backups.

-km

On 12/10, Lindsay Morris wrote:
> I once saw this when we had set BUFPOOLSIZE way too high.Giving the TSM
> server lots of memory starved the OS for memory; things slowed down horribly
> until we set BUFPOOLSIZE back to the Performance-tuning-guide
> recommendations ( I forget - 1/4 of available memory?)
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:58 AM, km  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am currently analyzing a TSM server which uses 100% CPU on 4 cores
> > when doing client backups. Almost all of it is privileged times, but
> > there are very few IO's and low disk queues for both stgpools, db and log.
> >
> > Are there any trace flags similar to the client testflag instrument:detail
> > but for the server that will allow me to see what the server is spending
> > time on?
> >
> > I've been looking in the problem determination guide but cant find any
> > flag similar to instrument_detail except for 'instr' which isnt documented
> > and only gives me DB LATCHes.
> >
> > -km
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Lindsay Morris
> Principal
> TSMworks
> Tel. 1-859-539-9900
> lind...@tsmworks.com


Re: instrumentation for the server?

2009-10-12 Thread km
Thank you. I had forgotten that instrumentation was implemented as its own 
command.

On 12/10, Andrew Raibeck wrote:
> Go to the link in my sig and do a search on:
>
>performance tuning information
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
> Level 3 Team Lead
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus
> Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com
>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
>
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 10/12/2009
> 07:58:58 AM:
>
> > [image removed]
> >
> > instrumentation for the server?
> >
> > km
> >
> > to:
> >
> > ADSM-L
> >
> > 10/12/2009 08:05 AM
> >
> > Sent by:
> >
> > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> >
> > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am currently analyzing a TSM server which uses 100% CPU on 4 cores
> > when doing client backups. Almost all of it is privileged times, but
> > there are very few IO's and low disk queues for both stgpools, db and
> log.
> >
> > Are there any trace flags similar to the client testflag
> instrument:detail
> > but for the server that will allow me to see what the server is spending
> > time on?
> >
> > I've been looking in the problem determination guide but cant find any
> > flag similar to instrument_detail except for 'instr' which isnt
> documented
> > and only gives me DB LATCHes.
> >
> > -km


How to backup open log files in exchange

2009-10-12 Thread ashish sharma
Hello all,

I have to configure TSM backup for Microsoft exchange server.The problem is
that TSM BAC client is unable to backup open files and the mail admin
requires these files to be backed up anyway.According to him, all log files
, whcih are always open are needed for recovery.So , my question is that ,
do we have anyway through which we can backup open files in exchange?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

--
Best Regards
Ashish Sharma
ST Microelectronics Ltd.
919717003853


Re: How to backup open log files in exchange

2009-10-12 Thread km
HEllo,

you can't backup database files or other files that change during
processing with the normal client. For that you need an application
specific client, called a TDP in the TSM world, that can backup the
application via it's supported backup API.

For Exchange, please see:
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/storage-mgr-mail/

-km

On 12/10, ashish sharma wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have to configure TSM backup for Microsoft exchange server.The problem is
> that TSM BAC client is unable to backup open files and the mail admin
> requires these files to be backed up anyway.According to him, all log files
> , whcih are always open are needed for recovery.So , my question is that ,
> do we have anyway through which we can backup open files in exchange?
>
> Thanks in advance for your reply.
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Ashish Sharma
> ST Microelectronics Ltd.
> 919717003853


Re: How to backup open log files in exchange

2009-10-12 Thread Tchuise, Bertaut
Ashish,

Changing the serialization parameter in your backup copygroup definition
from shrstatic or static to shrdynamic or dynamic will force TSM to
backup open files; HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that you will be able
to make use of the backed up open files in the case of restore.

You should NOT backup exchange with the regular Baclient. You could make
of use of Tivoli Data Protection for Exchange or FastBack to backup
Exchange. Both products require a license.

Look at the following site for TDP for Exchange
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp under
Storage Manager for Mail >> Data Protection for Microsoft Exchange
Server Installation

BERTAUT TCHUISE
TSM/NetApp Storage Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
*410-580-7032
btchu...@leggmason.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
ashish sharma
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] How to backup open log files in exchange

Hello all,

I have to configure TSM backup for Microsoft exchange server.The problem
is that TSM BAC client is unable to backup open files and the mail admin
requires these files to be backed up anyway.According to him, all log
files , whcih are always open are needed for recovery.So , my question
is that , do we have anyway through which we can backup open files in
exchange?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

--
Best Regards
Ashish Sharma
ST Microelectronics Ltd.
919717003853

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Re: TSM 5.4 or 6.1

2009-10-12 Thread Howard Coles
Compromise:  Go to TSM 5.5 and use the 5.4 client on older machines.
TSM 6.1 from what I'm hearing, isn't exactly an environment I'd want to
go to at the moment.  And, you can, as Wanda has said, use the 6.1
clients where it makes sense to.

See Ya'
Howard


> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf
> Of Mehdi Salehi
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:05 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM 5.4 or 6.1
> 
> One of our customers is planning to buy TSM for their AIX 5.2 systems.
> The
> problem is that the newest version of TSM what supports  AIX 5.2 is
TSM
> 5.4.
> Two solutions:
> - upgrade AIX systems to 5.3 or 6.1
> - forget about TSM 6.1 and use TSM 5.4
> You know the application side people are unwilling to move their
> environment. I am looking for convincing highlights to motivate them
to
> upgrade their operating systems instead of downgrading TSM side. What
> features of TSM 6.1 do you think could be interesting from executive's
> point
> of view?


Re: snapdiff

2009-10-12 Thread Olivier Levan
Hi all,
for information, I've implemented snapdiff but in a TSM v6.1 only
environment (client and server) and we're going on production. There are a
couple of limitations and requirements (for ex. the ntfs support only, the
UTF8 page code, the permissions on the filer ...etc.) that you should be
careful and nothing is clearly documented ... but when it works, it works
fine!
Be aware that you'll have to be using latest version of Ontap (7.3.1.x).

Thanks,
___

Olivier LEVAN, Infrastructure  IT Specialist
IBM Global Technology Services
227 - 11TH Avenue SW
CALGARY AB T2R 1R9
Tel.: (403) 539-3782
Fax: (845) 559-6763

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Remco Post
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:45 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] snapdiff

Andy,
A teammate successfully implemented snapdiff in our storage environment.
He used the 6.1 client with our TSM servers running on 5.5.1.0; his
setup works flawlessly. He will be presenting on snapdiff at the next
TSMUG.

BERTAUT TCHUISE
TSM/NetApp Storage Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
*410-580-7032
btchu...@leggmason.com


thanks. I'm aware of the official support issue, I'll urge the customer
to upgrade the servers to 5.5.


On 12 okt 2009, at 14:38, Andrew Raibeck wrote:

> The "Migrating from earlier versions" section near the beginning of
> the client manual discusses the topic of which servers are supported
> with the
> 5.5 client (5.5 or 6.1). Alternatively see
> http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21053218
>
> In theory the SnapDiff functionality should work with a 5.4 server (we

> are not aware of any feature-wise limitations in this regard).
> However, as the above item will indicate, 6.1 client and 5.4 server is

> not an officially supported configuration.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/i...@ibmus Internet
> e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com
>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageM
> anager.html
>
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 10/12/2009
> 06:46:53 AM:
>
>> [image removed]
>>
>> Re: snapdiff
>>
>> Remco Post
>>
>> to:
>>
>> ADSM-L
>>
>> 10/12/2009 06:47 AM
>>
>> Sent by:
>>
>> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>>
>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
>>
>> On 12 okt 2009, at 12:36, Grigori Solonovitch wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried to search in Internet?
>>>
>>> For  example:
>>>
>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?
>> rs=663&context=SSGSG7&uid=swg21392122&loc=en_US&cs=UTF-8&lang=en
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Where does this document list TSM server level requirements? I've
>> searched the TSM client manual, the TSM wiki and whatever google
>> could turn up. Since google reported that some people were actually
>> experimenting with snapdiff, I'd thought to ask the list as well
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm currently looking into the snapdiff feature of the TSM 6.1
>>> client.
>>>
>>> My customer is still running TSM server version 5.4, so I was
>>> looking
>>>
>>> into the requirements for using the 6.1 client and the snapdiff
>>>
>>> feature. Does anyone know if there is any dependancy on a specific
>>>
>>> server version to be able to use the snapdiff feature?
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,
>>
>> Remco Post
>> r.p...@plcs.nl

--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards,

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl


Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Kurt Buff
All,

We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end
of its expected reliable life. We have Version 5, Release 3, Level 4.6
installed, with various levels of clients installed on our servers.
The server has 1gb RAM, roughly 2tb of disk storage, but it's old/slow
PATA, and the OS is Win2k Pro. Definitely not ideal.

The tape robot is a Spectralogic T50, with two LTO3 drives and 25
slots, out of which we expect to get much more life.

We expect to replace the server with a new Dell server with 3tb of
SATA disk, 3gb RAM, Win2k3 (32bit), and use the current tape robot.

I'd like to get to the newest in the 5.x series on the new server,
since the talk on this list about moving to 6.x indicates to me that
we'd be better off staying at 5.x for now.

I've been casting about, and can't seem to find documentation on how
to migrate the setup to the new machine.

Does anyone have a pointer to good documentation on doing this?

Frankly, we've been given a quote by a VAR, and though the number of
hours they are quoting seem reasonable, the price they're asking to
work with us on this is beyond our budget.

Thanks

Kurt


Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread David McClelland
Are you looking purely at a lift and shift hardware change here, or at a clean 
installation of TSM Server (at 5.5.3 for example) and migrating clients into 
the new instance?

Cheers,

/David Mc
London, UK

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
Buff
Sent: 12 October 2009 18:54
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation

All,

We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end
of its expected reliable life. We have Version 5, Release 3, Level 4.6
installed, with various levels of clients installed on our servers.
The server has 1gb RAM, roughly 2tb of disk storage, but it's old/slow
PATA, and the OS is Win2k Pro. Definitely not ideal.

The tape robot is a Spectralogic T50, with two LTO3 drives and 25
slots, out of which we expect to get much more life.

We expect to replace the server with a new Dell server with 3tb of
SATA disk, 3gb RAM, Win2k3 (32bit), and use the current tape robot.

I'd like to get to the newest in the 5.x series on the new server,
since the talk on this list about moving to 6.x indicates to me that
we'd be better off staying at 5.x for now.

I've been casting about, and can't seem to find documentation on how
to migrate the setup to the new machine.

Does anyone have a pointer to good documentation on doing this?

Frankly, we've been given a quote by a VAR, and though the number of
hours they are quoting seem reasonable, the price they're asking to
work with us on this is beyond our budget.

Thanks

Kurt

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Re: snapdiff

2009-10-12 Thread Remco Post

On 12 okt 2009, at 19:13, Olivier Levan wrote:


Hi all,
for information, I've implemented snapdiff but in a TSM v6.1 only
environment (client and server) and we're going on production. There
are a
couple of limitations and requirements (for ex. the ntfs support
only, the
UTF8 page code, the permissions on the filer ...etc.) that you
should be
careful and nothing is clearly documented ... but when it works, it
works
fine!


On the TSM wiki I found a powerpoint on new client features. This is
quite informative on the issues that you mention.


Be aware that you'll have to be using latest version of Ontap
(7.3.1.x).



I know, that's another issue in my plan.


Thanks,


--
Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl
+31 6 248 21 622


BA Client error - CreateFile() returned '5'

2009-10-12 Thread Huebschman, George J.
Hello everyone, I am trying to track down a client backup error.

TSM Server 5.5.1, AIX 5.3.0.0
TSM ba Client 5.5.1.0, Win2K3 R2 SP2 - The server is part of an HP
Polyserver cluster.  We have excluded the Polyserve related mountpoints.
We have not edited the registry.

I am trying to figure out if the error I see is caused by the
same root problem as mentioned in IC 56269.
My error:
10/12/2009 00:12:04 ANS5250E An unexpected error was
encountered.
  TSM function name : NTSecurityReadV2
  TSM function  : CreateFile() returned '5' for file
'C:\WINDOWS\microsoft.net\Framework64\v2.0.50727\CONFIG\security.config.
cch.6528.2904562'

--

- IC 56269 describes this error -
"The TSM Backup-Archive client reports the following error during
backup in some cases:
ANS1228E Sending of object 'filename' failed
ANS4007E Error processing 'filename': access to the object is
denied
In this case, the error happened on all objects when backing up
a EMC NAS share mounted in read-only mode through CIFS."

--

This error message is different.
The file is not a CIFS share, but in on the C: drive.

However, the details of IC56269 describe a problem with the value for
dwDesiredAccess that is passed to the MS API function "CreateFile()".
The value TSM uses is for a Read/Write operation, could result in
CreateFile() returning an
access denied error incorrectly.  MS recommends a different value that
only request Read access.

--


?? Is this the same issue, or should I open a case with IBM?

George Huebschman
Legg Mason

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Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Kurt Buff
I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible,
including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult
maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more
than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is
relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.

I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the
new machine and upgrading immediately after implementation if that
would be of benefit.

We back up fewer than 10 servers, but one is our Exchange 2003 server
at roughly 200gb and is a full backup every night, and the other is
our file server at over 2tb, though on a nightly  basis it normally
does around 25-50gb.

Does that answer your question?

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:18, David McClelland  wrote:
> Are you looking purely at a lift and shift hardware change here, or at a 
> clean installation of TSM Server (at 5.5.3 for example) and migrating clients 
> into the new instance?
>
> Cheers,
>
> /David Mc
> London, UK
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
> Buff
> Sent: 12 October 2009 18:54
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> All,
>
> We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end
> of its expected reliable life. We have Version 5, Release 3, Level 4.6
> installed, with various levels of clients installed on our servers.
> The server has 1gb RAM, roughly 2tb of disk storage, but it's old/slow
> PATA, and the OS is Win2k Pro. Definitely not ideal.
>
> The tape robot is a Spectralogic T50, with two LTO3 drives and 25
> slots, out of which we expect to get much more life.
>
> We expect to replace the server with a new Dell server with 3tb of
> SATA disk, 3gb RAM, Win2k3 (32bit), and use the current tape robot.
>
> I'd like to get to the newest in the 5.x series on the new server,
> since the talk on this list about moving to 6.x indicates to me that
> we'd be better off staying at 5.x for now.
>
> I've been casting about, and can't seem to find documentation on how
> to migrate the setup to the new machine.
>
> Does anyone have a pointer to good documentation on doing this?
>
> Frankly, we've been given a quote by a VAR, and though the number of
> hours they are quoting seem reasonable, the price they're asking to
> work with us on this is beyond our budget.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kurt
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2415 - Release Date: 10/12/09 
> 04:01:00
>


Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Kelly Lipp
Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and 
configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That first 
backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but easy.

This method allows you go "clean up" your database.

Keep the old server around until the data expires.

Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use the 
library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall concept 
is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple and gets me 
a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important next year when you 
migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a good thing.

This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might peruse 
the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along with others 
like Wanda who have been through this many times.

Thanks,

Kelly Lipp
Chief Technical Officer
www.storserver.com
719-266-8777 x7105
STORServer solves your data backup challenges. 
Once and for all.


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
Buff
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation

I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible,
including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult
maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more
than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is
relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.

I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the
new machine and upgrading immediately after implementation if that
would be of benefit.

We back up fewer than 10 servers, but one is our Exchange 2003 server
at roughly 200gb and is a full backup every night, and the other is
our file server at over 2tb, though on a nightly  basis it normally
does around 25-50gb.

Does that answer your question?

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:18, David McClelland  wrote:
> Are you looking purely at a lift and shift hardware change here, or at a 
> clean installation of TSM Server (at 5.5.3 for example) and migrating clients 
> into the new instance?
>
> Cheers,
>
> /David Mc
> London, UK
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
> Buff
> Sent: 12 October 2009 18:54
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> All,
>
> We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end
> of its expected reliable life. We have Version 5, Release 3, Level 4.6
> installed, with various levels of clients installed on our servers.
> The server has 1gb RAM, roughly 2tb of disk storage, but it's old/slow
> PATA, and the OS is Win2k Pro. Definitely not ideal.
>
> The tape robot is a Spectralogic T50, with two LTO3 drives and 25
> slots, out of which we expect to get much more life.
>
> We expect to replace the server with a new Dell server with 3tb of
> SATA disk, 3gb RAM, Win2k3 (32bit), and use the current tape robot.
>
> I'd like to get to the newest in the 5.x series on the new server,
> since the talk on this list about moving to 6.x indicates to me that
> we'd be better off staying at 5.x for now.
>
> I've been casting about, and can't seem to find documentation on how
> to migrate the setup to the new machine.
>
> Does anyone have a pointer to good documentation on doing this?
>
> Frankly, we've been given a quote by a VAR, and though the number of
> hours they are quoting seem reasonable, the price they're asking to
> work with us on this is beyond our budget.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kurt
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2415 - Release Date: 10/12/09 
> 04:01:00
>


Re: BA Client error - CreateFile() returned '5'

2009-10-12 Thread Rainer Schöpf
Hello,

I encountered the same problem a while ago. Searching for "security.config.cch 
backup" with Google shows that this is a common problem.

I suspect that these files are locked or have even been deleted while locked/in 
use by another process.

As per Microsoft Knowledge Base,

"The files that have the extension .cch are dynamically generated and do not 
have to be backed up or restored."

 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;815168


  Rainer Schöpf


On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 at 14:31 -0400, Huebschman, George J. wrote:

 > Hello everyone, I am trying to track down a client backup error.
 > 
 > TSM Server 5.5.1, AIX 5.3.0.0
 > TSM ba Client 5.5.1.0, Win2K3 R2 SP2 - The server is part of an HP
 > Polyserver cluster.  We have excluded the Polyserve related mountpoints.
 > We have not edited the registry.
 > 
 >  I am trying to figure out if the error I see is caused by the
 > same root problem as mentioned in IC 56269.
 > My error:
 >  10/12/2009 00:12:04 ANS5250E An unexpected error was
 > encountered.
 >TSM function name : NTSecurityReadV2
 >TSM function  : CreateFile() returned '5' for file
 > 'C:\WINDOWS\microsoft.net\Framework64\v2.0.50727\CONFIG\security.config.
 > cch.6528.2904562'
 > 
 > --
 > 
 > - IC 56269 describes this error -
 > "The TSM Backup-Archive client reports the following error during
 > backup in some cases:
 > ANS1228E Sending of object 'filename' failed
 > ANS4007E Error processing 'filename': access to the object is
 > denied
 > In this case, the error happened on all objects when backing up
 > a EMC NAS share mounted in read-only mode through CIFS."
 > 
 > --
 > 
 > This error message is different.
 > The file is not a CIFS share, but in on the C: drive.
 > 
 > However, the details of IC56269 describe a problem with the value for
 > dwDesiredAccess that is passed to the MS API function "CreateFile()".
 > The value TSM uses is for a Read/Write operation, could result in
 > CreateFile() returning an
 > access denied error incorrectly.  MS recommends a different value that
 > only request Read access.
 > 
 > --
 > 
 > 
 > ?? Is this the same issue, or should I open a case with IBM?
 > 
 > George Huebschman
 > Legg Mason
 > 
 > IMPORTANT:  E-mail sent through the Internet is not secure. Legg Mason 
 > therefore recommends that you do not send any confidential or sensitive 
 > information to us via electronic mail, including social security numbers, 
 > account numbers, or personal identification numbers. Delivery, and or timely 
 > delivery of Internet mail is not guaranteed. Legg Mason therefore recommends 
 > that you do not send time sensitive 
 > or action-oriented messages to us via electronic mail.
 > 
 > This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged 
 > or confidential information. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may 
 > not use, copy or disclose to anyone any information contained in this 
 > message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the 
 > author by replying to this message and then kindly delete the message. Thank 
 > you.
 > 

Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Kurt Buff
So, what happens to all the tapes I have offsite at Iron Mountain, and
the archives I have stored in my basement vault, etc.

I'll be perusing the archives as you suggest, but this isn't exactly
crystalline to me just yet.

A complicating factor that I hadn't realized until I did a bit of
digging just now is that the current database holds references to a
*really* old set of 8mm (AIT2) tapes from a Spectralogic Treefrog that
we migrated from some years ago.

Would the procedure you're suggesting clean that up?

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10, Kelly Lipp  wrote:
> Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and 
> configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That 
> first backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but 
> easy.
>
> This method allows you go "clean up" your database.
>
> Keep the old server around until the data expires.
>
> Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use the 
> library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall concept 
> is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple and gets 
> me a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important next year when 
> you migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a good thing.
>
> This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might 
> peruse the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along 
> with others like Wanda who have been through this many times.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kelly Lipp
> Chief Technical Officer
> www.storserver.com
> 719-266-8777 x7105
> STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
> Once and for all.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
> Buff
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible,
> including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult
> maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more
> than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is
> relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.
>
> I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the
> new machine and upgrading immediately after implementation if that
> would be of benefit.
>
> We back up fewer than 10 servers, but one is our Exchange 2003 server
> at roughly 200gb and is a full backup every night, and the other is
> our file server at over 2tb, though on a nightly  basis it normally
> does around 25-50gb.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:18, David McClelland  wrote:
>> Are you looking purely at a lift and shift hardware change here, or at a 
>> clean installation of TSM Server (at 5.5.3 for example) and migrating 
>> clients into the new instance?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> /David Mc
>> London, UK
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
>> Kurt Buff
>> Sent: 12 October 2009 18:54
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end
>> of its expected reliable life. We have Version 5, Release 3, Level 4.6
>> installed, with various levels of clients installed on our servers.
>> The server has 1gb RAM, roughly 2tb of disk storage, but it's old/slow
>> PATA, and the OS is Win2k Pro. Definitely not ideal.
>>
>> The tape robot is a Spectralogic T50, with two LTO3 drives and 25
>> slots, out of which we expect to get much more life.
>>
>> We expect to replace the server with a new Dell server with 3tb of
>> SATA disk, 3gb RAM, Win2k3 (32bit), and use the current tape robot.
>>
>> I'd like to get to the newest in the 5.x series on the new server,
>> since the talk on this list about moving to 6.x indicates to me that
>> we'd be better off staying at 5.x for now.
>>
>> I've been casting about, and can't seem to find documentation on how
>> to migrate the setup to the new machine.
>>
>> Does anyone have a pointer to good documentation on doing this?
>>
>> Frankly, we've been given a quote by a VAR, and though the number of
>> hours they are quoting seem reasonable, the price they're asking to
>> work with us on this is beyond our budget.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kurt
>>
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Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread David McClelland
Okay, another fun question for you Kurt, investigating some alternative lines 
of simply migrating your current TSM server instance to new hardware: is the 
disk upon which your current TSM database/recovery log/storage pool live 
internal to your old server, or is it instead hosted upon external disk and 
thus (potentially) relatively feasible to 'introduce' to your new hardware?

/DMc

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
Buff
Sent: 12 October 2009 21:09
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation

So, what happens to all the tapes I have offsite at Iron Mountain, and
the archives I have stored in my basement vault, etc.

I'll be perusing the archives as you suggest, but this isn't exactly
crystalline to me just yet.

A complicating factor that I hadn't realized until I did a bit of
digging just now is that the current database holds references to a
*really* old set of 8mm (AIT2) tapes from a Spectralogic Treefrog that
we migrated from some years ago.

Would the procedure you're suggesting clean that up?

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10, Kelly Lipp  wrote:
> Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and 
> configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That 
> first backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but 
> easy.
>
> This method allows you go "clean up" your database.
>
> Keep the old server around until the data expires.
>
> Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use the 
> library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall concept 
> is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple and gets 
> me a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important next year when 
> you migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a good thing.
>
> This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might 
> peruse the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along 
> with others like Wanda who have been through this many times.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kelly Lipp
> Chief Technical Officer
> www.storserver.com
> 719-266-8777 x7105
> STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
> Once and for all.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
> Buff
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible,
> including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult
> maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more
> than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is
> relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.
>
> I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the
> new machine and upgrading immediately after implementation if that
> would be of benefit.
>
> We back up fewer than 10 servers, but one is our Exchange 2003 server
> at roughly 200gb and is a full backup every night, and the other is
> our file server at over 2tb, though on a nightly  basis it normally
> does around 25-50gb.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:18, David McClelland  wrote:
>> Are you looking purely at a lift and shift hardware change here, or at a 
>> clean installation of TSM Server (at 5.5.3 for example) and migrating 
>> clients into the new instance?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> /David Mc
>> London, UK
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
>> Kurt Buff
>> Sent: 12 October 2009 18:54
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end
>> of its expected reliable life. We have Version 5, Release 3, Level 4.6
>> installed, with various levels of clients installed on our servers.
>> The server has 1gb RAM, roughly 2tb of disk storage, but it's old/slow
>> PATA, and the OS is Win2k Pro. Definitely not ideal.
>>
>> The tape robot is a Spectralogic T50, with two LTO3 drives and 25
>> slots, out of which we expect to get much more life.
>>
>> We expect to replace the server with a new Dell server with 3tb of
>> SATA disk, 3gb RAM, Win2k3 (32bit), and use the current tape robot.
>>
>> I'd like to get to the newest in the 5.x series on the new server,
>> since the talk on this list about moving to 6.x indicates to me that
>> we'd be better off staying at 5.x for now.
>>
>> I've been casting about, and can't seem to find documentation on how
>> to migrate the setup to the new machine.
>>
>> Does anyone have a pointer to good documentation on doing this?
>>
>> Frankly, we've been given a quote by a VAR, and though the number of
>> hours the

Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Bob Levad
When we migrated to a new server and LTO4 from LTO1, we installed all of the
new stuff and tested the hardware with the TSM version we were running.
When that was working well, we drained all of the disk pools, backed up the
database from the existing server, shut it down, attached the old tape
drives to the new server, restored the database, brought it up, deleted all
of the old disk pools, defined new disk pools for the new hardware, defined
the new tape drives, set up new devclasses and storage pools, changed the
domains to point to the new devices and migration hierarchy, tested backups
and restores, and set up move data jobs to move data from the LTO1's back to
disk pools where it would then migrate to the new LTO4s.  Once the LTO1's
were empty, we detached the library and recycled the old tapes.  The upgrade
to a newer TSM could occur on the old server or the new, but best probably
not at the same time as the hardware cutover.

Starting from scratch was not an option for us as we have files with
multi-year retentions.

Bob.

PS - If you have references to tapes that no longer exist, there are methods
(google is your friend) to delete references to them.  The method of
deletion may depend on how the data was stored
(primary/copypool/backupset/db backup/other).  Once the references are gone,
you should delete the storage pools and device classes that are obsolete.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Kurt Buff
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:09 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation

So, what happens to all the tapes I have offsite at Iron Mountain, and the
archives I have stored in my basement vault, etc.

I'll be perusing the archives as you suggest, but this isn't exactly
crystalline to me just yet.

A complicating factor that I hadn't realized until I did a bit of digging
just now is that the current database holds references to a
*really* old set of 8mm (AIT2) tapes from a Spectralogic Treefrog that we
migrated from some years ago.

Would the procedure you're suggesting clean that up?

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10, Kelly Lipp  wrote:
> Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and
configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That
first backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but
easy.
>
> This method allows you go "clean up" your database.
>
> Keep the old server around until the data expires.
>
> Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use
the library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall
concept is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple
and gets me a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important next
year when you migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a good
thing.
>
> This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might
peruse the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along
with others like Wanda who have been through this many times.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kelly Lipp
> Chief Technical Officer
> www.storserver.com
> 719-266-8777 x7105
> STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
> Once and for all.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf 
> Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible, 
> including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult 
> maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more 
> than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is 
> relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.
>
> I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the 
> new machine and upgrading immediately after implementation if that 
> would be of benefit.
>
> We back up fewer than 10 servers, but one is our Exchange 2003 server 
> at roughly 200gb and is a full backup every night, and the other is 
> our file server at over 2tb, though on a nightly  basis it normally 
> does around 25-50gb.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:18, David McClelland 
wrote:
>> Are you looking purely at a lift and shift hardware change here, or at a
clean installation of TSM Server (at 5.5.3 for example) and migrating
clients into the new instance?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> /David Mc
>> London, UK
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf 
>> Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: 12 October 2009 18:54
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end 
>> of its expected reliable 

Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Kurt Buff
Disk for the current TSM server is IDE/PATA in a RAID5 array internal
to the machine - though the OS is on a (eep!) single IDE/PATA drive
connected to the motherboard.

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:19, David McClelland  wrote:
> Okay, another fun question for you Kurt, investigating some alternative lines 
> of simply migrating your current TSM server instance to new hardware: is the 
> disk upon which your current TSM database/recovery log/storage pool live 
> internal to your old server, or is it instead hosted upon external disk and 
> thus (potentially) relatively feasible to 'introduce' to your new hardware?
>
> /DMc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
> Buff
> Sent: 12 October 2009 21:09
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> So, what happens to all the tapes I have offsite at Iron Mountain, and
> the archives I have stored in my basement vault, etc.
>
> I'll be perusing the archives as you suggest, but this isn't exactly
> crystalline to me just yet.
>
> A complicating factor that I hadn't realized until I did a bit of
> digging just now is that the current database holds references to a
> *really* old set of 8mm (AIT2) tapes from a Spectralogic Treefrog that
> we migrated from some years ago.
>
> Would the procedure you're suggesting clean that up?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10, Kelly Lipp  wrote:
>> Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and 
>> configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That 
>> first backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but 
>> easy.
>>
>> This method allows you go "clean up" your database.
>>
>> Keep the old server around until the data expires.
>>
>> Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use 
>> the library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall 
>> concept is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple 
>> and gets me a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important next 
>> year when you migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a good 
>> thing.
>>
>> This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might 
>> peruse the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along 
>> with others like Wanda who have been through this many times.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kelly Lipp
>> Chief Technical Officer
>> www.storserver.com
>> 719-266-8777 x7105
>> STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
>> Once and for all.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
>> Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>
>> I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible,
>> including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult
>> maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more
>> than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is
>> relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.
>>
>> I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the
>> new machine and upgrading immediately after implementation if that
>> would be of benefit.
>>
>> We back up fewer than 10 servers, but one is our Exchange 2003 server
>> at roughly 200gb and is a full backup every night, and the other is
>> our file server at over 2tb, though on a nightly  basis it normally
>> does around 25-50gb.
>>
>> Does that answer your question?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:18, David McClelland  wrote:
>>> Are you looking purely at a lift and shift hardware change here, or at a 
>>> clean installation of TSM Server (at 5.5.3 for example) and migrating 
>>> clients into the new instance?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> /David Mc
>>> London, UK
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
>>> Kurt Buff
>>> Sent: 12 October 2009 18:54
>>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We have a TSM server that's running out of steam, and nearing the end
>>> of its expected reliable life. We have Version 5, Release 3, Level 4.6
>>> installed, with various levels of clients installed on our servers.
>>> The server has 1gb RAM, roughly 2tb of disk storage, but it's old/slow
>>> PATA, and the OS is Win2k Pro. Definitely not ideal.
>>>
>>> The tape robot is a Spectralogic T50, with two LTO3 drives and 25
>>> slots, out of which we expect to get much more life.
>>>
>>> We expect to replace the server with a new Dell server with 3tb of
>>> SATA disk, 3gb RAM, Win2k3 (32bit), and use the current tape robot.
>>>
>>> I'd like to get to the newest in the 5.x series on the new server,
>>> since the talk

Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Ochs, Duane
For my last migration to new hardware I built a new system and used 
export/import server to server.
Worked very well. Doesn’t work if you have only one library though.

However, you are looking for an alternate method.

I'd recommend upgrading to TSM 5.5 first. Especially if you run into problems 
and have to call IBM for support.


This is a really simplified step by step.
Build your new system:
Install the same version of TSm that you have on the old system.
On old server:
Perform a DB backup to a blank tape. Two for redundancy.
Backup volhist.
Backup devconfig
Take down TSM on your old TSM server
Document all tape drive/library information and drivers.

Copy db files to the new system, reclog volumes and diskpool volumes.
If you are really familiar with TSM you can minimize the amount of diskpool 
volumes to be copied first.
Copy the contents of your server directory to the new system.

Verify that your copied dsmserv.dsk file reflects the new location of the DB 
files and log files.

If everything was done correctly and verified properly you should be able to 
start up your TSM database.

Then you will have to redefine your library and drives.


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
Buff
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

Disk for the current TSM server is IDE/PATA in a RAID5 array internal
to the machine - though the OS is on a (eep!) single IDE/PATA drive
connected to the motherboard.

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:19, David McClelland  wrote:
> Okay, another fun question for you Kurt, investigating some alternative lines 
> of simply migrating your current TSM server instance to new hardware: is the 
> disk upon which your current TSM database/recovery log/storage pool live 
> internal to your old server, or is it instead hosted upon external disk and 
> thus (potentially) relatively feasible to 'introduce' to your new hardware?
>
> /DMc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
> Buff
> Sent: 12 October 2009 21:09
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> So, what happens to all the tapes I have offsite at Iron Mountain, and
> the archives I have stored in my basement vault, etc.
>
> I'll be perusing the archives as you suggest, but this isn't exactly
> crystalline to me just yet.
>
> A complicating factor that I hadn't realized until I did a bit of
> digging just now is that the current database holds references to a
> *really* old set of 8mm (AIT2) tapes from a Spectralogic Treefrog that
> we migrated from some years ago.
>
> Would the procedure you're suggesting clean that up?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10, Kelly Lipp  wrote:
>> Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and 
>> configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That 
>> first backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but 
>> easy.
>>
>> This method allows you go "clean up" your database.
>>
>> Keep the old server around until the data expires.
>>
>> Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use 
>> the library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall 
>> concept is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple 
>> and gets me a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important next 
>> year when you migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a good 
>> thing.
>>
>> This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might 
>> peruse the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along 
>> with others like Wanda who have been through this many times.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kelly Lipp
>> Chief Technical Officer
>> www.storserver.com
>> 719-266-8777 x7105
>> STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
>> Once and for all.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
>> Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>
>> I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible,
>> including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult
>> maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more
>> than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is
>> relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.
>>
>> I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the
>> new machine and upgrading immediately after implementation if that
>> would be of benefit.
>>
>> We back up fewer than 10 servers, but one is our Exchange 2003 server
>> at roughly 200gb and is a full backup every night, and the other is
>> our file server at over 2tb, thou

Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Kurt Buff
Yeah, as I dig into this it becomes more complicated.

We have a number of pools:
 Disk Pools:
  diskpool
 Sequential Access Storage Pools:
  ltopool
  8mmpool1 (which needs to die)
  archivepool
  ltoarchive
  reclaimpool
 Copy Storage pools:
  copypool
  ltocopy

We have several devclasses, too:
 Disk Device Class
  Disk
 File Device Class
  ReclaimClass
 8MM Device Clases
  8mmclass1
 LTO Device Class
  LTO

The 8mm stuff really needs to go away, I think, especially since
Treefrog we had was traded in to get the T50.

We also have data that is archived on the LTO tapes, and that we'll
need for at least 4 more years - financial stuff, doncha know.

Kurt


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:24, Bob Levad  wrote:
> When we migrated to a new server and LTO4 from LTO1, we installed all of the
> new stuff and tested the hardware with the TSM version we were running.
> When that was working well, we drained all of the disk pools, backed up the
> database from the existing server, shut it down, attached the old tape
> drives to the new server, restored the database, brought it up, deleted all
> of the old disk pools, defined new disk pools for the new hardware, defined
> the new tape drives, set up new devclasses and storage pools, changed the
> domains to point to the new devices and migration hierarchy, tested backups
> and restores, and set up move data jobs to move data from the LTO1's back to
> disk pools where it would then migrate to the new LTO4s.  Once the LTO1's
> were empty, we detached the library and recycled the old tapes.  The upgrade
> to a newer TSM could occur on the old server or the new, but best probably
> not at the same time as the hardware cutover.
>
> Starting from scratch was not an option for us as we have files with
> multi-year retentions.
>
> Bob.
>
> PS - If you have references to tapes that no longer exist, there are methods
> (google is your friend) to delete references to them.  The method of
> deletion may depend on how the data was stored
> (primary/copypool/backupset/db backup/other).  Once the references are gone,
> you should delete the storage pools and device classes that are obsolete.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
> Kurt Buff
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:09 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> So, what happens to all the tapes I have offsite at Iron Mountain, and the
> archives I have stored in my basement vault, etc.
>
> I'll be perusing the archives as you suggest, but this isn't exactly
> crystalline to me just yet.
>
> A complicating factor that I hadn't realized until I did a bit of digging
> just now is that the current database holds references to a
> *really* old set of 8mm (AIT2) tapes from a Spectralogic Treefrog that we
> migrated from some years ago.
>
> Would the procedure you're suggesting clean that up?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10, Kelly Lipp  wrote:
>> Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and
> configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That
> first backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but
> easy.
>>
>> This method allows you go "clean up" your database.
>>
>> Keep the old server around until the data expires.
>>
>> Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use
> the library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall
> concept is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple
> and gets me a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important next
> year when you migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a good
> thing.
>>
>> This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might
> peruse the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along
> with others like Wanda who have been through this many times.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kelly Lipp
>> Chief Technical Officer
>> www.storserver.com
>> 719-266-8777 x7105
>> STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
>> Once and for all.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf
>> Of Kurt Buff
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>
>> I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible,
>> including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult
>> maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, say on the order of more
>> than a 4-day weekend) and/or the downside of losing the diskpool is
>> relatively minor, I could potentially live without it.
>>
>> I would also contemplate keeping the current TSM server version on the
>> new machine and upgrading immediately after

Re: Migration for Windows-based installation

2009-10-12 Thread Kurt Buff
I'll have to work through a fair amount to understand what you've
outlined, but it seems doable. I think pruning volhist and devconfig
first might be a good idea, if for no other reason than to cut down on
the confusion.

Thanks for the input. I'll most likely be back for more information.

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 14:03, Ochs, Duane  wrote:
> For my last migration to new hardware I built a new system and used 
> export/import server to server.
> Worked very well. Doesn’t work if you have only one library though.
>
> However, you are looking for an alternate method.
>
> I'd recommend upgrading to TSM 5.5 first. Especially if you run into problems 
> and have to call IBM for support.
>
>
> This is a really simplified step by step.
> Build your new system:
> Install the same version of TSm that you have on the old system.
> On old server:
> Perform a DB backup to a blank tape. Two for redundancy.
> Backup volhist.
> Backup devconfig
> Take down TSM on your old TSM server
> Document all tape drive/library information and drivers.
>
> Copy db files to the new system, reclog volumes and diskpool volumes.
> If you are really familiar with TSM you can minimize the amount of diskpool 
> volumes to be copied first.
> Copy the contents of your server directory to the new system.
>
> Verify that your copied dsmserv.dsk file reflects the new location of the DB 
> files and log files.
>
> If everything was done correctly and verified properly you should be able to 
> start up your TSM database.
>
> Then you will have to redefine your library and drives.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt 
> Buff
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Migration for Windows-based installation
>
> Disk for the current TSM server is IDE/PATA in a RAID5 array internal
> to the machine - though the OS is on a (eep!) single IDE/PATA drive
> connected to the motherboard.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 13:19, David McClelland  wrote:
>> Okay, another fun question for you Kurt, investigating some alternative 
>> lines of simply migrating your current TSM server instance to new hardware: 
>> is the disk upon which your current TSM database/recovery log/storage pool 
>> live internal to your old server, or is it instead hosted upon external disk 
>> and thus (potentially) relatively feasible to 'introduce' to your new 
>> hardware?
>>
>> /DMc
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
>> Kurt Buff
>> Sent: 12 October 2009 21:09
>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>
>> So, what happens to all the tapes I have offsite at Iron Mountain, and
>> the archives I have stored in my basement vault, etc.
>>
>> I'll be perusing the archives as you suggest, but this isn't exactly
>> crystalline to me just yet.
>>
>> A complicating factor that I hadn't realized until I did a bit of
>> digging just now is that the current database holds references to a
>> *really* old set of 8mm (AIT2) tapes from a Spectralogic Treefrog that
>> we migrated from some years ago.
>>
>> Would the procedure you're suggesting clean that up?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:10, Kelly Lipp  wrote:
>>> Start from scratch.  Install TSM at the level you would like, move and 
>>> configure the library. Point the clients at the new server and go.  That 
>>> first backup will necessarily be a full.  Will take longer than usual, but 
>>> easy.
>>>
>>> This method allows you go "clean up" your database.
>>>
>>> Keep the old server around until the data expires.
>>>
>>> Clearly, there are more details, especially since you are going to re-use 
>>> the library on the new STORServer (oops, I mean TSM Server).  The overall 
>>> concept is sound. For sites of your size I like this method as it is simple 
>>> and gets me a brand new, pristine database.  This will become important 
>>> next year when you migrate to TSM 6.2.  Besides, a clean start is always a 
>>> good thing.
>>>
>>> This topic has been covered earlier and in much more detail.  You might 
>>> peruse the archives to see what you can find.  My name will show up along 
>>> with others like Wanda who have been through this many times.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kelly Lipp
>>> Chief Technical Officer
>>> www.storserver.com
>>> 719-266-8777 x7105
>>> STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
>>> Once and for all.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
>>> Kurt Buff
>>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:02 PM
>>> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
>>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Migration for Windows-based installation
>>>
>>> I'd prefer to be able to migrate server data as much as possible,
>>> including the diskpool, but if it it would be an incredibly difficult
>>> maneuver (or take inordinate amounts of time, s