Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Dear TSMers,
We have TSM 5.5.1.1 under AIX 5.3.
I need to move data from DISK primary storage pool (raw logical volumes) to 
FILE primary storage pool (JFS2 file system).
There are 3 tape copy pools for DISK primary pool.
I am going to use next procedure:
1) create FILE primary storage pool with appropriate size;
2) move data from DISK primary storage pool to FILE pool by "move data  
stg= reconstruct=no" (volume by volume);
3) delete DISK primary storage pool;
4) rename FILE storage pool to old DISK pool name.
My expectations:
1) all existing tape copy pools, made for DISK pool, will be still legal 
for FILE primary storage pool (no need to make extra backups and it is possible 
to restore any data in FILE storage pool);
2) no need to modify any copy groups connected to old DISK pool because of 
the same storage pool name;
3) expiry process will continue to work normally;
4) full/incremental backup history will be untouched by data movement.
Am I right?
I will deeply appreciate any comments.
Thank you very much in advance.
Kindest regards,


Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com

Phone: (+965) 2231-2274  Mobile: (+965) 99798073  E-Mail: 
g.solonovi...@bkme.com

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Windows 2008 System State Backup

2009-07-28 Thread Moyer, Joni M
Hello everyone,

What is the proper way to backup a Windows 2008 servers system state?  Several 
co-workers of mine have tried to restore this and it does not work.  Is there a 
certain tsm client release along with a different method of backup in order to 
get the system state backed up and restored properly?  Any information/help is 
greatly appreciated

Joni Moyer
Storage Administrator III
(717)302-9966
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Re: Windows 2008 System State Backup

2009-07-28 Thread Sanju Chacko
Which version you are using?

Thanks,
Sanju
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Moyer, Joni M
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Subject: [ADSM-L] Windows 2008 System State Backup

Hello everyone,

What is the proper way to backup a Windows 2008 servers system state?
Several co-workers of mine have tried to restore this and it does not
work.  Is there a certain tsm client release along with a different
method of backup in order to get the system state backed up and restored
properly?  Any information/help is greatly appreciated

Joni Moyer
Storage Administrator III
(717)302-9966
joni.mo...@highmark.com



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SV: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi,
If I where you I should like this instead.


1) Rename your old Diskpool
2) Create your File Pool with the same name as the old Diskpool
3) Update your Diskpool with HIGH=0 LOW=0 and NEXT=FILEPOOL (Disable Cache also 
if you have any)
4) Wait 2-3 days
5) Delete all Volumes in your DISKPOOL and Delete DISKPOOL

Now will you migrate the data and you can still backup to your new STG POOL 
with any issue an no extra work for you.

But why do you wanna move to FILE CLASS? Do you wanna use De-duplication? You 
know you will delay your backups and get a lot of fragmentation if you don't 
pre-create all Volumes? This has nothing with TSM really, but most of the issue 
is the filesystem, TSM need to create the file first before TSM can save any 
data to that volume, and that will create a delay.
If TSM creates multiple volumes, then will you get fragmentation.
I normally don't recommend anyone to have FILE CLASS as first storage pool. I 
only use that if a customer want to have a VTL but don't have any money to buy 
a real VTL.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

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Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Ämne: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

Dear TSMers,
We have TSM 5.5.1.1 under AIX 5.3.
I need to move data from DISK primary storage pool (raw logical volumes) to 
FILE primary storage pool (JFS2 file system).
There are 3 tape copy pools for DISK primary pool.
I am going to use next procedure:
1) create FILE primary storage pool with appropriate size;
2) move data from DISK primary storage pool to FILE pool by "move data  
stg= reconstruct=no" (volume by volume);
3) delete DISK primary storage pool;
4) rename FILE storage pool to old DISK pool name.
My expectations:
1) all existing tape copy pools, made for DISK pool, will be still legal 
for FILE primary storage pool (no need to make extra backups and it is possible 
to restore any data in FILE storage pool);
2) no need to modify any copy groups connected to old DISK pool because of 
the same storage pool name;
3) expiry process will continue to work normally;
4) full/incremental backup history will be untouched by data movement.
Am I right?
I will deeply appreciate any comments.
Thank you very much in advance.
Kindest regards,


Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com

Phone: (+965) 2231-2274  Mobile: (+965) 99798073  E-Mail: 
g.solonovi...@bkme.com

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Re: Windows 2008 System State Backup

2009-07-28 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
In my opinion, the best software for disaster recovery of Windows servers is 
TBMR from Cristie & TSM Client from IBM. It allows to make full/incremental 
backups for SYSTEMSTATE, drive C: and other drives top TSM Server (with 
point-in-time disaster recovery). We were using a few versions and now we are 
at TBMR 6.2.1 & TSM Client 6.1.0.

Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com

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Chacko
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:27 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows 2008 System State Backup

Which version you are using?

Thanks,
Sanju
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Moyer, Joni M
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:53 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Windows 2008 System State Backup

Hello everyone,

What is the proper way to backup a Windows 2008 servers system state?
Several co-workers of mine have tried to restore this and it does not
work.  Is there a certain tsm client release along with a different
method of backup in order to get the system state backed up and restored
properly?  Any information/help is greatly appreciated

Joni Moyer
Storage Administrator III
(717)302-9966
joni.mo...@highmark.com



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Re: Windows 2008 System State Backup

2009-07-28 Thread Moyer, Joni M
Hi,

I am using tsm client version 5.5.1.0

Thanks!

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Chacko
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:27 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Windows 2008 System State Backup

Which version you are using?

Thanks,
Sanju
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Moyer, Joni M
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:53 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Windows 2008 System State Backup

Hello everyone,

What is the proper way to backup a Windows 2008 servers system state?
Several co-workers of mine have tried to restore this and it does not
work.  Is there a certain tsm client release along with a different
method of backup in order to get the system state backed up and restored
properly?  Any information/help is greatly appreciated

Joni Moyer
Storage Administrator III
(717)302-9966
joni.mo...@highmark.com



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Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Tchuise, Bertaut
Grigori,

Your process below works; I would have done the same as Christian
Svensson that is migrating all the data off of the Disk storage pool to
the next storage pool (what hierarchy do you have in your environment:
Disk -> VTL -> Tape  or Disk -> Tape?? ). Depending on the number of
tape drives you have available you could increase the migprocress
parameter to push the data off of the DISK pool to the next stgpool
faster; you should also run the migrations outside the backup interval.

You may still have to change any references of the DISK pool in the tape
copy pools before being able to delete the DISK pool itself. You could
update all the previous DISK pool reference once you define and rename
the FILE storage pool to the old DISK pool name.

BERTAUT TCHUISE
Storage Support Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
*410-580-7032
btchu...@leggmason.com

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Grigori Solonovitch
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:35 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

Dear TSMers,
We have TSM 5.5.1.1 under AIX 5.3.
I need to move data from DISK primary storage pool (raw logical volumes)
to FILE primary storage pool (JFS2 file system).
There are 3 tape copy pools for DISK primary pool.
I am going to use next procedure:
1) create FILE primary storage pool with appropriate size;
2) move data from DISK primary storage pool to FILE pool by "move data
 stg= reconstruct=no" (volume by volume);
3) delete DISK primary storage pool;
4) rename FILE storage pool to old DISK pool name.
My expectations:
1) all existing tape copy pools, made for DISK pool, will be still
legal for FILE primary storage pool (no need to make extra backups and
it is possible to restore any data in FILE storage pool);
2) no need to modify any copy groups connected to old DISK pool
because of the same storage pool name;
3) expiry process will continue to work normally;
4) full/incremental backup history will be untouched by data
movement.
Am I right?
I will deeply appreciate any comments.
Thank you very much in advance.
Kindest regards,


Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East
http://www.bkme.com

Phone: (+965) 2231-2274  Mobile: (+965) 99798073  E-Mail:
g.solonovi...@bkme.com

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Re: SV: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Rainer Wolf

Hi,
you can prevent fragmentation on filepool-volumes if you define/create them
assigning to the pool and not using scratch-volumes for FILE-Storagepools.
Using a command like ...
define volume   numberofvolumes=10 
formatsize=2 wait=yes
... defines 10 volumes with a prefix of 'volumename' ech at 20GB .
It is important to use 'wait=yes' so those 10 volumes will be created 
sequential.
Without 'wait=yes' all 10 volumes would be created in parallel and 
fragmentation possibly will happen.
You can really have filepool-volumes without fragmentation (wait=yes) and 
scratch-volumes
surely are not so recommended.

Cheers Rainer


Christian Svensson schrieb:


Hi,
If I where you I should like this instead.


1) Rename your old Diskpool
2) Create your File Pool with the same name as the old Diskpool
3) Update your Diskpool with HIGH=0 LOW=0 and NEXT=FILEPOOL (Disable Cache also 
if you have any)
4) Wait 2-3 days
5) Delete all Volumes in your DISKPOOL and Delete DISKPOOL

Now will you migrate the data and you can still backup to your new STG POOL 
with any issue an no extra work for you.

But why do you wanna move to FILE CLASS? Do you wanna use De-duplication? You 
know you will delay your backups and get a lot of fragmentation if you don't 
pre-create all Volumes? This has nothing with TSM really, but most of the issue 
is the filesystem, TSM need to create the file first before TSM can save any 
data to that volume, and that will create a delay.
If TSM creates multiple volumes, then will you get fragmentation.
I normally don't recommend anyone to have FILE CLASS as first storage pool. I 
only use that if a customer want to have a VTL but don't have any money to buy 
a real VTL.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] för Grigori 
Solonovitch [g.solonovi...@bkme.com]
Skickat: den 28 juli 2009 12:35
Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Ämne: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

Dear TSMers,
We have TSM 5.5.1.1 under AIX 5.3.
I need to move data from DISK primary storage pool (raw logical volumes) to 
FILE primary storage pool (JFS2 file system).
There are 3 tape copy pools for DISK primary pool.
I am going to use next procedure:
1) create FILE primary storage pool with appropriate size;
2) move data from DISK primary storage pool to FILE pool by "move data  
stg= reconstruct=no" (volume by volume);
3) delete DISK primary storage pool;
4) rename FILE storage pool to old DISK pool name.
My expectations:
1) all existing tape copy pools, made for DISK pool, will be still legal 
for FILE primary storage pool (no need to make extra backups and it is possible 
to restore any data in FILE storage pool);
2) no need to modify any copy groups connected to old DISK pool because of 
the same storage pool name;
3) expiry process will continue to work normally;
4) full/incremental backup history will be untouched by data movement.
Am I right?
I will deeply appreciate any comments.
Thank you very much in advance.
Kindest regards,


Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com

Phone: (+965) 2231-2274  Mobile: (+965) 99798073  E-Mail: 
g.solonovi...@bkme.com

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Re: Windows 2008 System State Backup

2009-07-28 Thread Tchuise, Bertaut
Joni,

The link below contain comprehensive information pertaining to Bare
Machine Recovery for TSM V5.5. The link provides steps to recover the
System state in regular clients, domain controllers and much more.

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/entdocview.wss?uid=swg21164812

I hope it helps.

BERTAUT TCHUISE
Storage Support Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
*410-580-7032
btchu...@leggmason.com


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Moyer, Joni M
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows 2008 System State Backup

Hi,

I am using tsm client version 5.5.1.0

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Sanju Chacko
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:27 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Windows 2008 System State Backup

Which version you are using?

Thanks,
Sanju
-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Moyer, Joni M
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:53 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Windows 2008 System State Backup

Hello everyone,

What is the proper way to backup a Windows 2008 servers system state?
Several co-workers of mine have tried to restore this and it does not
work.  Is there a certain tsm client release along with a different
method of backup in order to get the system state backed up and restored
properly?  Any information/help is greatly appreciated

Joni Moyer
Storage Administrator III
(717)302-9966
joni.mo...@highmark.com



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raw backup with TSM

2009-07-28 Thread ashish sharma
Hello TSMers,

The question may be simple , but i dont know whether i can do this or
not?Could anyone tell me if i can take raw backup of disks with TSM?I know
we can do this with Net Backup but i dont know if we can do this with TSM.

--
Best Regards
Ashish Sharma
ST Microelectronics Ltd.
919717003853


node pwd in registry disappeared

2009-07-28 Thread Schaub, Steve
Windows2003 Enterprise x64,  TSM 5.5.1, TDP 5.3.3.0

We had a situation where one of our SQLServer's TDP backups stopped working on 
a certain day and when I investigated, I discovered that the registry key that 
holds the nodename/pwd for the TDP node had disappeared from the registry.  I 
cant find any tsm or Windows logs that would point to why this happened.

Has anyone seen this behavior before, or have any ideas on how to track down 
what caused this?

Thanks,

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, Windows
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee


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Can we use TSM for oracle database backup without using RMAN

2009-07-28 Thread rajeev
Hi,
A very basic question. Can we use TSM for oracle database backup without using 
RMAN?
Please respond soon.

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Re: raw backup with TSM

2009-07-28 Thread Steven Langdale
That depends on what you mean by raw.

On UNIX and Windows (prob more platforms but I've done it on these) you 
can do volume level backups - is that what you're after?

Steven

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Hello TSMers,

The question may be simple , but i dont know whether i can do this or
not?Could anyone tell me if i can take raw backup of disks with TSM?I know
we can do this with Net Backup but i dont know if we can do this with TSM.

--
Best Regards
Ashish Sharma
ST Microelectronics Ltd.
919717003853


Re: Can we use TSM for oracle database backup without using RMAN

2009-07-28 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
Cold yes.  Backup mode, maybe.
Cold is easy. Stop Oracle, backup everything, start Oracle.  Works every time.
Backup mode.  Put the DB in backup mode, backup everything.  Take the DB out of 
backup mode and backup the archive logs.  Works most of the time.  Beware that 
the DB may be updated during the backup so depending on the TSM settings it may 
start over or get a bad copy.  YMWV. I do not recommend it but is does mostly 
work.

Andy Huebner
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Hi,
A very basic question. Can we use TSM for oracle database backup without using 
RMAN?
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Re: raw backup with TSM

2009-07-28 Thread ashish sharma
By raw backup, i mean physical disks like /dev/dsba, /dev/sdbb...




On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Steven Langdale wrote:

> That depends on what you mean by raw.
>
> On UNIX and Windows (prob more platforms but I've done it on these) you
> can do volume level backups - is that what you're after?
>
> Steven
>
> Steven Langdale
> Global Information Services
> EAME SAN/Storage Planning and Implementation
> ( Phone : +44 (0)1733 584175
> ( Mob: +44 (0)7876 216782
> ü Conference: +44 (0)208 609 7400 Code: 331817
> + Email: steven.langd...@cat.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ashish sharma 
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 28/07/2009 16:00
> Please respond to
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
>
>
> To
> ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> cc
>
> Subject
> [ADSM-L] raw backup with TSM
>
>
>
>
> Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 27/08/2009
>
>
>
> Hello TSMers,
>
> The question may be simple , but i dont know whether i can do this or
> not?Could anyone tell me if i can take raw backup of disks with TSM?I know
> we can do this with Net Backup but i dont know if we can do this with TSM.
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Ashish Sharma
> ST Microelectronics Ltd.
> 919717003853
>



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ST Microelectronics Ltd.
919717003853


Re: node pwd in registry disappeared

2009-07-28 Thread Tchuise, Bertaut
Steve,

The only times app registry keys get deleted are:
1* when the application is being uninstalled
2* when someone manually deletes the key or that someone writes a script
to delete the reg key or that same someone uses the reg delete "path to
the nodename/pwd key" in the command prompt.

The reg key for TDP won't just disappear overnight and the logs won't
tell you why this happened only that something happened. I would look
into the event viewer around the time the TDP backups stopped working
and see who last logged in and whether there were any particular script
that might have affected your reg key.

Have fun hunting Steve :-)

BERTAUT TCHUISE
Storage Support Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
*410-580-7032
btchu...@leggmason.com


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Schaub, Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:59 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] node pwd in registry disappeared

Windows2003 Enterprise x64,  TSM 5.5.1, TDP 5.3.3.0

We had a situation where one of our SQLServer's TDP backups stopped
working on a certain day and when I investigated, I discovered that the
registry key that holds the nodename/pwd for the TDP node had
disappeared from the registry.  I cant find any tsm or Windows logs that
would point to why this happened.

Has anyone seen this behavior before, or have any ideas on how to track
down what caused this?

Thanks,

Steve Schaub
Systems Engineer, Windows
BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee


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Re: Can we use TSM for oracle database backup without using RMAN

2009-07-28 Thread Richard Rhodes
Yes

We do most of our Oracle backups without RMAN.  We have scripts that
perform Cold, Hot and Exports to local disk areas.  After copying the db
(or creating the export)  the script invokes "dsmc incr /backup/area" on
the backup area.You could also use RMAN to backup to local disk
(doesn't rquire a tdpo) and have dsmc grab the rman files.

Rick










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Re: raw backup with TSM

2009-07-28 Thread Wanda Prather
In TSM you can do an "image" backup, at the filesystem (unix) or
drive(Windows) level.
Check the client manual.



On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:19 AM, ashish sharma wrote:

> By raw backup, i mean physical disks like /dev/dsba, /dev/sdbb...
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Steven Langdale  >wrote:
>
> > That depends on what you mean by raw.
> >
> > On UNIX and Windows (prob more platforms but I've done it on these) you
> > can do volume level backups - is that what you're after?
> >
> > Steven
> >
> > Steven Langdale
> > Global Information Services
> > EAME SAN/Storage Planning and Implementation
> > ( Phone : +44 (0)1733 584175
> > ( Mob: +44 (0)7876 216782
> > ü Conference: +44 (0)208 609 7400 Code: 331817
> > + Email: steven.langd...@cat.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ashish sharma 
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > 28/07/2009 16:00
> > Please respond to
> > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> >
> >
> > To
> > ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > [ADSM-L] raw backup with TSM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 27/08/2009
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello TSMers,
> >
> > The question may be simple , but i dont know whether i can do this or
> > not?Could anyone tell me if i can take raw backup of disks with TSM?I
> know
> > we can do this with Net Backup but i dont know if we can do this with
> TSM.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> > Ashish Sharma
> > ST Microelectronics Ltd.
> > 919717003853
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Ashish Sharma
> ST Microelectronics Ltd.
> 919717003853
>


Re: Windows 2008 System State Backup

2009-07-28 Thread Moyer, Joni M
Thank you!  I think this information will help out a lot!

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Tchuise, Bertaut
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:38 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Windows 2008 System State Backup

Joni,

The link below contain comprehensive information pertaining to Bare
Machine Recovery for TSM V5.5. The link provides steps to recover the
System state in regular clients, domain controllers and much more.

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/entdocview.wss?uid=swg21164812

I hope it helps.

BERTAUT TCHUISE
Storage Support Administrator
Legg Mason Technology Services
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:40 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows 2008 System State Backup

Hi,

I am using tsm client version 5.5.1.0

Thanks!

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Which version you are using?

Thanks,
Sanju
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Subject: [ADSM-L] Windows 2008 System State Backup

Hello everyone,

What is the proper way to backup a Windows 2008 servers system state?
Several co-workers of mine have tried to restore this and it does not
work.  Is there a certain tsm client release along with a different
method of backup in order to get the system state backed up and restored
properly?  Any information/help is greatly appreciated

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Re: raw backup with TSM

2009-07-28 Thread ashish sharma
You mean to say "dsmc backup image /dev/sdbc -imagetype=dynamic" will work.




On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Wanda Prather wrote:

> In TSM you can do an "image" backup, at the filesystem (unix) or
> drive(Windows) level.
> Check the client manual.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:19 AM, ashish sharma  >wrote:
>
> > By raw backup, i mean physical disks like /dev/dsba, /dev/sdbb...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Steven Langdale <
> steven.langd...@cat.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > That depends on what you mean by raw.
> > >
> > > On UNIX and Windows (prob more platforms but I've done it on these) you
> > > can do volume level backups - is that what you're after?
> > >
> > > Steven
> > >
> > > Steven Langdale
> > > Global Information Services
> > > EAME SAN/Storage Planning and Implementation
> > > ( Phone : +44 (0)1733 584175
> > > ( Mob: +44 (0)7876 216782
> > > ü Conference: +44 (0)208 609 7400 Code: 331817
> > > + Email: steven.langd...@cat.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ashish sharma 
> > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > > 28/07/2009 16:00
> > > Please respond to
> > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > >
> > >
> > > To
> > > ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > cc
> > >
> > > Subject
> > > [ADSM-L] raw backup with TSM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 27/08/2009
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello TSMers,
> > >
> > > The question may be simple , but i dont know whether i can do this or
> > > not?Could anyone tell me if i can take raw backup of disks with TSM?I
> > know
> > > we can do this with Net Backup but i dont know if we can do this with
> > TSM.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards
> > > Ashish Sharma
> > > ST Microelectronics Ltd.
> > > 919717003853
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> > Ashish Sharma
> > ST Microelectronics Ltd.
> > 919717003853
> >
>



-- 
Best Regards
Ashish Sharma
ST Microelectronics Ltd.
919717003853


Re: raw backup with TSM

2009-07-28 Thread Larry Peifer
We use a line in the dsm.sys file for each raw logical volume of the Oracle
database we need to backup.  We use this method for both hot and cold
Oracle user managed backups.

Example line from dsm.sys:

domain.image/dev/eng_control0




   
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You mean to say "dsmc backup image /dev/sdbc -imagetype=dynamic" will work.




On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Wanda Prather
wrote:

> In TSM you can do an "image" backup, at the filesystem (unix) or
> drive(Windows) level.
> Check the client manual.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:19 AM, ashish sharma  >wrote:
>
> > By raw backup, i mean physical disks like /dev/dsba, /dev/sdbb...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Steven Langdale <
> steven.langd...@cat.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > That depends on what you mean by raw.
> > >
> > > On UNIX and Windows (prob more platforms but I've done it on these)
you
> > > can do volume level backups - is that what you're after?
> > >
> > > Steven
> > >
> > > Steven Langdale
> > > Global Information Services
> > > EAME SAN/Storage Planning and Implementation
> > > ( Phone : +44 (0)1733 584175
> > > ( Mob: +44 (0)7876 216782
> > > ü Conference: +44 (0)208 609 7400 Code: 331817
> > > + Email: steven.langd...@cat.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ashish sharma 
> > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > > 28/07/2009 16:00
> > > Please respond to
> > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > >
> > >
> > > To
> > > ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > cc
> > >
> > > Subject
> > > [ADSM-L] raw backup with TSM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 27/08/2009
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello TSMers,
> > >
> > > The question may be simple , but i dont know whether i can do this or
> > > not?Could anyone tell me if i can take raw backup of disks with TSM?I
> > know
> > > we can do this with Net Backup but i dont know if we can do this with
> > TSM.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards
> > > Ashish Sharma
> > > ST Microelectronics Ltd.
> > > 919717003853
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> > Ashish Sharma
> > ST Microelectronics Ltd.
> > 919717003853
> >
>



--
Best Regards
Ashish Sharma
ST Microelectronics Ltd.
919717003853


Re: raw backup with TSM

2009-07-28 Thread Wira Chinwong
TSM also support raw disk backup which calls "image backup". See below link
for more information.

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.
ibm.itsmfdt.doc/ans651.htm



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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:46 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] raw backup with TSM

Hello TSMers,

The question may be simple , but i dont know whether i can do this or
not?Could anyone tell me if i can take raw backup of disks with TSM?I know
we can do this with Net Backup but i dont know if we can do this with TSM.

--
Best Regards
Ashish Sharma
ST Microelectronics Ltd.
919717003853


TSM restore of Oracle via TDP and RMAN

2009-07-28 Thread Tim Brown
I was wondering if anyone has any insight to my issue.

I'm doing a restore/recover for a windows 2003 server (oracle db 10g).
We do incremental backups with a full backup every Friday.

This is the script i've tried for the restore (among the other tries):
run
{
#if not already done, do a shutdown.  I was doing shutdown at the RMAN 
prompt.
#shutdown immediate;
startup nomount;

#--restore the controlfile
restore controlfile from autobackup;

##mount the database using the restored control file.
alter database mount;

allocate channel t1 type 'sbt_tape' parms 'ENV=(tdpo_optfile=C:\Program 
Files\Tivoli\TSM\AgentOBA\tdpo.opt)';


##SCN=system change number (it's like a counter)
##when using the 'until' command, it should restore 'up to but not 
including'
##restore database;
##restore database until scn 9699232120;
##restore database until sequence=277 thread=1 force;
restore database until sequence=291 thread=1 force;

##do a list backup of archivelog from time = 'sysdate-7'; to find sequence 
#.
##-do a list recoverable backup of database; to get the most recent scn #.
##recover database until sequence=291;
##recover database until scn 9699232120;
##recover database until sequence=277 thread=1;
recover database until sequence=291 thread=1;

alter database open resetlogs;
release channel t1;

   }

The restore seems to work fine, but no matter how I do the restore, I always 
get this error on the recover:

channel t1: reading from backup piece df_688689807_164_1
channel t1: restored backup piece 1
piece handle=df_688689807_164_1 tag=TAG20090604T224327
channel t1: restore complete, elapsed time: 00:02:25

starting media recovery

unable to find archive log
archive log thread=1 sequence=1
released channel: t1
RMAN-00571: ===
RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS ===
RMAN-00571: ===
RMAN-03002: failure of recover command at 06/16/2009 15:23:38
RMAN-06054: media recovery requesting unknown log: thread 1 seq 1 lowscn 9698800
261

Recovery Manager complete.

I have to manually open the database and it does open and all the .dbf, .log, 
and .ctl files are restored and we can log onto the database fine and use it, 
but I always get this error about unable to find archive log.  Any thoughts or 
suggestions??
thanks.

Tim Brown
Systems Specialist - Project Leader
Central Hudson Gas & Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
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HACMP V5.5

2009-07-28 Thread Yudi Darmadi
Dear TSM-ers,

Does TSM 5.5.x.x support HACMP V5.5 ? I search from IBM website and Readme
files, but it only said that AIX BAclient is now supported  HACMP 5.3 &
5.4 with a fix applied first. Thanks for your info.

Rgrds,


Yudi Darmadi


Antwort: RE: [ADSM-L] two tsm server instances on the same windows server with library-sharing

2009-07-28 Thread TSM
Hello Henrik,

thank you for the responce.
I can't try it now.
I am thinking, whether I can share the same tape-drives on the same
windows system.

I found the sentences (
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/b_install_guide_windows24.htm
) :
"A typical Tivoli Storage Manager installation involves one server
instance in the Tivoli Storage Manager server machine. You might want to
install a second instance. You might also want to run more than one server
on a large machine if you have multiple tape libraries or a disk-only
configuration."

For the IBM Tape drive I use "install_exclusive.exe". Does it mean "No
drive sharing" ?
You use a STK Library. Is this different from IBM libraries for library-
and drive-sharing with windows ?

With best regards
Andreas.




"Henrik Vahlstedt" 
27.07.2009 09:31

An: "TSM" 
Kopie:
Thema:  RE: [ADSM-L] two tsm server instances on the same windows
server with library-sharing


Hi,

Yes it is possible. Use the TSM concole wizard to create a second instance
and follow the steps below. Modify them to fit your settings.



//Henrik



To share a STK9710 library between two TSM instances on the same TSM
server:
Manager:
UPDate LIBRary STK9710 SHAREd=Yes
Set CROSSDefine ON
Set SERVERPAssword 
Set SERVERLladdress 1500
upd dr stk9710 MTxx onl=n

Client:
Set SERVERPAssword 
DEFine SERver Manager SERVERPAssword= HLAddress=127.0.0.1
LLAddress=1500 CROSSDEFine=Yes
PING SERVER X
PING SERVER Y
DEFine LIBRary STK9710 LIBType=SHAREd PRIMarylibmanager=Manager
UPDate DEVclass DLT7000 LIBRary=STK9710

Manager:
CHECKIn LIBVolume STK9710 SEARCH=Bulk STATus=PRIvate CHECKLabel=Barcode
(OWNer=Client)
DEFine PATH Client MTxx SRCType=SERVer DESTType=DRive LIBRary=STK9710
DEVIce=MTxx (Paths to all drives).

Client:
Audit libr stk9710 checklabel=barcode

Update drives and test tape mounts:
upd dr stk9710 MTxx onl=y
Test backup/restores and tape mounts on both TSM systems.



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TSM
Sent: den 24 juli 2009 18:47
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] two tsm server instances on the same windows server with
library-sharing

hello,

is it possible, to run two tsm server instances on the same windows system
using the same library?
Are there any special hints for configure the tsm server and the library
sharing?

tsm server version 5.5.3.0

with best regards
andreas


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Re: HACMP V5.5

2009-07-28 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
I am using TSM 5.5.1 and PowerHA 5.5.0.2 (HACMP 5.5.0.2) without any visible 
problems under AIX 5.3-09-02.

Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com

Phone: (+965) 2231-2274  Mobile: (+965) 99798073  E-Mail: g.solonovi...@bkme.com

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Darmadi
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:32 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] HACMP V5.5

Dear TSM-ers,

Does TSM 5.5.x.x support HACMP V5.5 ? I search from IBM website and Readme
files, but it only said that AIX BAclient is now supported  HACMP 5.3 &
5.4 with a fix applied first. Thanks for your info.

Rgrds,


Yudi Darmadi

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Re: TSM restore of Oracle via TDP and RMAN

2009-07-28 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Hello Tim,

I am using next script to restore database with incomplete recovery:
===
#!/bin/sh
#
# Restore specified database to point in time
# Recover database to specified time (incomplete recovery)
#
# Input paramaters:
#   1 - database SID;
#   2 - time stamp in format -MM-DD:HH24:MI:SS;
#   3 - control file copy.
#
export ORACLE_SID=$1
export ORACLE_HOME=`grep "$1:" /etc/oratab | head -n1 | cut -f2 -d":"`
export TNS_ADMIN=$ORACLE_HOME/network/admin
export PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/bin:$PATH
#
rman 
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Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Hello Christian,

Thank you very much for your proposal. I understand that it is much easier to 
use migration, but I am still going to use procedure based on data movement 
because of:
 1) migration is totally controlled by TSM Server and depends on number of 
nodes and number of migration processes. I am afraid to overlap migration 
activity and backup/restore operations. TSM Server can be overloaded because 
both the source and target storage pools are on SAN disks with very high 
performance. Data movement is manually controlled and can be done at time with 
minimal backup/restore activity (for example, at the weekends);
 2) unfortunately there are limitations in disk space. I am not able to 
allocate FILE storage pool with the same size as DISK storage pool initially. I 
am planning to move raw logical volumes selectively to release SAN data volume 
from DISK pool, allocate it to FILE pool and continue process like this till 
all data will be moved.

We are converting DISK pools to FILE pools as a preparation to upgrade to TSM 
6.1 with de-duplication. We hope to save some disk space in primary storage 
pools and increase expiry period for data. Unfortunately, another option based 
on IBM VTL hardware with de-duplication is very costly (high available VTL, 
upgrade existing old libraries and stop using old SSA disks at Head Office and 
Disaster Site is approximately $1,000,000). So we have no choice nowadays.

In addition, I have discussed all disadvantages of using file systems for 
primary pools with IBM. According to IBM:
1) using JFS2 file system will reduce risk in general, because it is much 
better than old JFS file system;
2) all virtual volumes have to be allocated manually and sequentially to avoid 
fragmentation (maxscratch=0);
3) file system utilization have to be kept as close as possible to 100% to 
prevent any possibility of fragmentation.
I understand it will be real headache to monitor and control FILE storage pools 
in this case, but I have no choise.

Thank you very much for all other comments and proposals for my request.

Kindest regards,

Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com

Phone: (+965) 2231-2274  Mobile: (+965) 99798073  E-Mail: g.solonovi...@bkme.com

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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
Christian Svensson
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:30 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

Hi,
If I where you I should like this instead.


1) Rename your old Diskpool
2) Create your File Pool with the same name as the old Diskpool
3) Update your Diskpool with HIGH=0 LOW=0 and NEXT=FILEPOOL (Disable Cache also 
if you have any)
4) Wait 2-3 days
5) Delete all Volumes in your DISKPOOL and Delete DISKPOOL

Now will you migrate the data and you can still backup to your new STG POOL 
with any issue an no extra work for you.

But why do you wanna move to FILE CLASS? Do you wanna use De-duplication? You 
know you will delay your backups and get a lot of fragmentation if you don't 
pre-create all Volumes? This has nothing with TSM really, but most of the issue 
is the filesystem, TSM need to create the file first before TSM can save any 
data to that volume, and that will create a delay.
If TSM creates multiple volumes, then will you get fragmentation.
I normally don't recommend anyone to have FILE CLASS as first storage pool. I 
only use that if a customer want to have a VTL but don't have any money to buy 
a real VTL.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

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Ämne: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

Dear TSMers,
We have TSM 5.5.1.1 under AIX 5.3.
I need to move data from DISK primary storage pool (raw logical volumes) to 
FILE primary storage pool (JFS2 file system).
There are 3 tape copy pools for DISK primary pool.
I am going to use next procedure:
1) create FILE primary storage pool with appropriate size;
2) move data from DISK primary storage pool to FILE pool by "move data  
stg= reconstruct=no" (volume by volume);
3) delete DISK primary storage pool;
4) rename FILE storage pool to old DISK pool name.
My expectations:
1) all existing tape copy pools, made for DISK pool, will be still legal 
for FILE primary storage pool (no need to make extra backups and it is possible 
to restore any data in FILE storage pool);
2) no need to modify any copy groups connected to old DISK pool because of 
the same storage pool name;
3) expiry process will continue to work normally;
4) full/incremental backup history will be untouched by d

Re: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

2009-07-28 Thread Steven Langdale
Hello Grigori

What SAN have you got, and is it shared storage?  I ask because there has 
been discussion on FS fragmentation but surely this is meaningless if your 
using a SAN.

Steven Langdale
Global Information Services
EAME SAN/Storage Planning and Implementation
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Hello Christian,

Thank you very much for your proposal. I understand that it is much easier 
to use migration, but I am still going to use procedure based on data 
movement because of:
 1) migration is totally controlled by TSM Server and depends on 
number of nodes and number of migration processes. I am afraid to overlap 
migration activity and backup/restore operations. TSM Server can be 
overloaded because both the source and target storage pools are on SAN 
disks with very high performance. Data movement is manually controlled and 
can be done at time with minimal backup/restore activity (for example, at 
the weekends);
 2) unfortunately there are limitations in disk space. I am not able 
to allocate FILE storage pool with the same size as DISK storage pool 
initially. I am planning to move raw logical volumes selectively to 
release SAN data volume from DISK pool, allocate it to FILE pool and 
continue process like this till all data will be moved.

We are converting DISK pools to FILE pools as a preparation to upgrade to 
TSM 6.1 with de-duplication. We hope to save some disk space in primary 
storage pools and increase expiry period for data. Unfortunately, another 
option based on IBM VTL hardware with de-duplication is very costly (high 
available VTL, upgrade existing old libraries and stop using old SSA disks 
at Head Office and Disaster Site is approximately $1,000,000). So we have 
no choice nowadays.

In addition, I have discussed all disadvantages of using file systems for 
primary pools with IBM. According to IBM:
1) using JFS2 file system will reduce risk in general, because it is much 
better than old JFS file system;
2) all virtual volumes have to be allocated manually and sequentially to 
avoid fragmentation (maxscratch=0);
3) file system utilization have to be kept as close as possible to 100% to 
prevent any possibility of fragmentation.
I understand it will be real headache to monitor and control FILE storage 
pools in this case, but I have no choise.

Thank you very much for all other comments and proposals for my request.

Kindest regards,

Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  
http://www.bkme.com

Phone: (+965) 2231-2274  Mobile: (+965) 99798073  E-Mail: 
g.solonovi...@bkme.com

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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
Christian Svensson
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:30 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

Hi,
If I where you I should like this instead.


1) Rename your old Diskpool
2) Create your File Pool with the same name as the old Diskpool
3) Update your Diskpool with HIGH=0 LOW=0 and NEXT=FILEPOOL (Disable Cache 
also if you have any)
4) Wait 2-3 days
5) Delete all Volumes in your DISKPOOL and Delete DISKPOOL

Now will you migrate the data and you can still backup to your new STG 
POOL with any issue an no extra work for you.

But why do you wanna move to FILE CLASS? Do you wanna use De-duplication? 
You know you will delay your backups and get a lot of fragmentation if you 
don't pre-create all Volumes? This has nothing with TSM really, but most 
of the issue is the filesystem, TSM need to create the file first before 
TSM can save any data to that volume, and that will create a delay.
If TSM creates multiple volumes, then will you get fragmentation.
I normally don't recommend anyone to have FILE CLASS as first storage 
pool. I only use that if a customer want to have a VTL but don't have any 
money to buy a real VTL.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] för Grigori 
Solonovitch [g.solonovi...@bkme.com]
Skickat: den 28 juli 2009 12:35
Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Ämne: Move data from DISK pool to FILE pool

Dear TSMers,
We have TSM 5.5.1.1 under AIX 5.3.
I need to move data from DISK primary storage pool (raw logical volumes) 
to FILE primary storage pool (JFS2 file system).
There are 3 tape copy pools for DISK primary pool.
I am going to use next procedure:
1) create FILE 

TDP MSSQL excludes

2009-07-28 Thread Michael Green
I've been requested by our MSSQL admin to exclude from backup any
database with name that starts with 'Test' or 'TEST'. The admin often
creates and removes databases with such names.
I've tried to exclude using:
exclude "\...\Test*\...\"
exclude "\...\TEST*\...\"

But it doesn't seem to do the job. Instead of ignoring these DBs like
if they were not there, TDP skips over them producing errors along the
way.

How should such an exclude be formulated?
--
Warm regards,
Michael Green


Re: Antwort: RE: [ADSM-L] two tsm server instances on the same windows server with library-sharing

2009-07-28 Thread Henrik Vahlstedt
Hello,

After you install TSM server you will get a Management Console where you can 
install and configure your n+ instances.
c$\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Tivoli Storage 
Manager\Management Console.lnk"

No, you can still share the lib. and drives. Same procedure for IBM3584, SL500, 
STK9710 etc.

I assume you use LTO drives, see v.6201 install_README.txt
install_exclusive.exe:
install_exclusive.exe should be used by applications (such as Tivoli 
Storage Manager)
requiring the driver to issue automatic reserves on open and also 
preventing multiple
open handles from a host to a drive to exist at the same time.
Note: This option replaces the previous default installation of 
install.exe

install_nonexclusive.exe:
install_nonexclusive.exe should be used by applications (such as 
Microsoft Data
Protection Manager or Microsoft Removable Storage Manager) permitting 
multiple open 
handles from a host to a drive to exist at the same time.

install_exclusive.exe has nothing to do with TSM library sharing.

Thanks
Henrik

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of TSM
Sent: den 29 juli 2009 06:40
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Antwort: RE: [ADSM-L] two tsm server instances on the same 
windows server with library-sharing

Hello Henrik,

thank you for the responce.
I can't try it now.
I am thinking, whether I can share the same tape-drives on the same windows 
system.

I found the sentences (
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/b_install_guide_windows24.htm
) :
"A typical Tivoli Storage Manager installation involves one server instance in 
the Tivoli Storage Manager server machine. You might want to install a second 
instance. You might also want to run more than one server on a large machine if 
you have multiple tape libraries or a disk-only configuration."

For the IBM Tape drive I use "install_exclusive.exe". Does it mean "No drive 
sharing" ?
You use a STK Library. Is this different from IBM libraries for library- and 
drive-sharing with windows ?

With best regards
Andreas.




"Henrik Vahlstedt" 
27.07.2009 09:31

An: "TSM" 
Kopie:
Thema:  RE: [ADSM-L] two tsm server instances on the same windows 
server with library-sharing


Hi,

Yes it is possible. Use the TSM concole wizard to create a second instance and 
follow the steps below. Modify them to fit your settings.



//Henrik



To share a STK9710 library between two TSM instances on the same TSM
server:
Manager:
UPDate LIBRary STK9710 SHAREd=Yes
Set CROSSDefine ON
Set SERVERPAssword 
Set SERVERLladdress 1500
upd dr stk9710 MTxx onl=n

Client:
Set SERVERPAssword 
DEFine SERver Manager SERVERPAssword= HLAddress=127.0.0.1 
LLAddress=1500 CROSSDEFine=Yes PING SERVER X PING SERVER Y DEFine LIBRary 
STK9710 LIBType=SHAREd PRIMarylibmanager=Manager UPDate DEVclass DLT7000 
LIBRary=STK9710

Manager:
CHECKIn LIBVolume STK9710 SEARCH=Bulk STATus=PRIvate CHECKLabel=Barcode
(OWNer=Client)
DEFine PATH Client MTxx SRCType=SERVer DESTType=DRive LIBRary=STK9710 
DEVIce=MTxx (Paths to all drives).

Client:
Audit libr stk9710 checklabel=barcode

Update drives and test tape mounts:
upd dr stk9710 MTxx onl=y
Test backup/restores and tape mounts on both TSM systems.



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of TSM
Sent: den 24 juli 2009 18:47
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] two tsm server instances on the same windows server with 
library-sharing

hello,

is it possible, to run two tsm server instances on the same windows system 
using the same library?
Are there any special hints for configure the tsm server and the library 
sharing?

tsm server version 5.5.3.0

with best regards
andreas


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