AW: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Windows Client question...

2008-01-19 Thread Thomas Rupp
Hi Elana,

I use a value of 300 (seconds).
Our mail inbox is on our exchange server. PST files are solely used for archive
purposes. So no problems with incoming mails during backup.

Thomas

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Thomas,

What value are you using, and also what happens if a new email arrives
during the backup of the PST file?

Elana Samuels
Tier 1 Data Solutions Inc.


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After some time of inactivity Outlook releases the lock to a PST.
If you get too many locked PST files one solution could be to lower this
value
(see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/222328)

We use subfilebackup to reduce the amount of backed up data.
Every time a user opens outlook the PST file is changed (it only gets a new
timestamp).
Subfile backup here reduced the amount of backed up data to about 10%

HTH
Thomas Rupp

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So how would you recommend to backup open PST files?  Unfortunately in the
SMB space, most desktops are running Outlook and the users typically leave
their mail open at night.


Elana Samuels
Tier 1 Data Solutions Inc.

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Agreed.
I tell my customers NOT to install OFS unless they have a reason, and only
on systems where they know what the reason is.
It triggers a LOT of unncessary and pretty unintelligible VSS errors, and is
usually doing nothing worthwhile.

Look at your TSM daily reporter output on clients without OFS installed,
check the "missed file details".  You'll find that 90% of the files that are
missed are in the category of "usual suspects".  You may want to sit down
with a Windows admin and get them to help you identify the missed files.

Many will be ntuser.dat or ntuser.log files, or other parts of the user
profile.  You rarely need backups of these unless you are backing up
desktops, and then the profiles are included in teh backup of System State.


Most of the rest will be files that are clearly identifiable as DB parts
belonging to apps like SQL or Oracle.  OFS support does not necessarily give
you good backups of a data base, because there is no interface with the DB
journal/logs.  So even if people THINK they are getting backups this way,
you probably shouldn't count on using them - the appropriate solution for
DB's is using a TDP client.

Once you identify the missed files, you'll usually find there is nothing on
the client that needs the OFS support - exception would be a locally
developed application.  But I still wouldn't count on OFS being the answer,
until somebody explains to me how the app works and what kind of backups
will give you appropriate restore and DR capability.  (ANd then TEST to make
sure the restored version is viable.)







On 1/16/08, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> FWIW, I don't think it has ever been installed on any of our > 200 Windows
> systems we backup.
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> FYI, installing either of these WILL REQUIRE a reboot since it installs a
> service/low-level driver.
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> Zoltan Forray
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> Office of Technology Services
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> Howdy,
>I recently switched jobs and now am managing TSM in a mostly Windows
> environment (instead of the Unix world where I am comfortable). A new
> challenge... anyways
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> On the Windows TSM client, there is the option to install the "Open file
> support" and the "Image Backup" support. Does everyone install these?
> Does it depend on what kind of DR you might have to do on the windows
> host? Forgive my Windows ignorance,
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> I've read the manuals and it looks like the upside is the ability to
> backup open files, but the downside I am seeing is that there seems to
> be a lot of errors with the way it interfaces with the Windows native
> VSS service. It also looks like if these are installed and you want to
> upgrade the TS

Re: TSM on Power

2008-01-19 Thread Gee, Norman
There is a front page article in the April 2007 issue of Storage
Magazine 
that talks about the experience of LL Beans migration from mainframe TSM
to 
Linux on Power.

http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/magazineFeature/0,296894,sid5_gci125
8351,00.html 

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It looks like, after many years on the z/VM platform, we are finally
going to make the "leap" to TSM on Power (IBM Pseries) and AIX.  Does
anyone have any suggestions as to configuration and sizing of the box
and disk space?  We also like to retro-fit our 3494 ATL to connect to
the Pseries.  Anyone doing anything like that?

Martha


FW: [ADSM-L] ANR8833E - Does 5.4.3 = 5.5 ? [No, TSM 5.5 is better!]

2008-01-19 Thread חנה דרזי
 I install version 5.5 on win 2003 server.
 When I backup ndmp over the net the cpu is very high and of course
The server work very slow

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] ANR8833E - Does 5.4.3 = 5.5 ? [No, TSM 5.5 is better!]

Well, IBM has not been known for updating their APAR web-pages in a timely
fashion.

I had this problem with 5.4 and still have it in 5.5 and as the docs for
5.5 say, the apar is not listed as being resolved.  I was on 5.4.1 and was
going to upgrade to 5.4.2 when it came out but 5.5 came out first.

This problem occurs (due to my wonderful IBM 3583 libraries) at least once
every 1-2 weeks and as the APAR says, the only current "workaround" is to
bounce the server.

Now if they would only put out a patch for the 5.5 Linux server.  I am
having crashes/cores every 2-weeks on my heavily used 5.5 server (e.g.
over 200 nodes of all flavors).  Seems to have something to do with the
workload since my other, identicly configured server which only backs up
Notes data (e.g. for over 135TB occupancy, the DB is only 2GB used), does
not have these crashes. Of course, it is the one that manages the LTO
libraries so I do bounce it due to the above problem. Maybe that helps
reduce the crash-likeliness.



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Zoltan,
Look again at that APAR doc:

IBM - IC54107: TSM ANR8833E DURING CHECKIN LIBVOL FOR SOME VOLUMES
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC54107

My reading is that APAR IC54107 affects only TSM 5.3 and 5.4.
If correct, that is why it is not listed as an APAR fixed in TSM 5.5.

So, I believe, you would best upgrade to TSM 5.5
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John Monahan wrote:
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> Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote on 11/27/2007:
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>> We have been having an intermittant problem with ANR8833E errors, which
>> are addressed in apar: IC54107: TSM ANR8833E DURING CHECKIN LIBVOL FOR
>> SOME VOLUMES.
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>> However, the apar says: projected to be fixed in level 5.3.6.1, 5.3.7,
>> and 5.4.3.
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>> Since I haven't seen anything higher than 5.4.1.2 and 5.5 server is
out,
>> can I assume the problem is fixed in 5.5 ?   Is there a 5.4.2/5.4.3
>> release expected ?
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> APARs fixed in 5.5 are listed here:
> http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21288273
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> IC54107 is not on the list.
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