change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way? [Virus checked]

2004-10-19 Thread Frank Mueller
Hi,

our TSM Server (Version 5.1.8) is a SP wide node (AIX 5.2_ML02). Now I want
change the server to a new pSeries standalone p615.
Our TSM-diskstoragepool, the database and the logs are on SSA-Disks.

So I think that I must install the new node with the same AIX level and TSM
level (mksysb is not so easy, because it is a SP-node).
After this I stop the old TSM server. Connect the ssa disks on the new
node, import the volumegroups, change the ip configuration on the new node
(so that it is the same as on the old server), connect the library, mount
filesystems, check that device conf, volhis, database and logs are in right
path and than I can start the TSM-Server.

Is this the way?

Best regards,
Frank


3583 library problem

2004-10-19 Thread tani
Hi all,
My 3583 library don't work today when i execute
backup db t=f devclass=3583_MGC, tivoli give me this message:
ANR4571E Database backup/restore terminated - = insufficient
number of mount points available for removable media.

The library always work perfectly and the configuration in tivoli is ok.
The number of drives is 1 and the mount limit is set to one.
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.


Re: 3583 library problem

2004-10-19 Thread AMHOUCHE Youssef

I think you need to make more mount point available by increasing the mount
limit value

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Hi all,
My 3583 library don't work today when i execute
backup db t=f devclass=3583_MGC, tivoli give me this message:
ANR4571E Database backup/restore terminated - = insufficient
number of mount points available for removable media.

The library always work perfectly and the configuration in tivoli is ok.
The number of drives is 1 and the mount limit is set to one.
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: 3583 library problem

2004-10-19 Thread tani
But,  i think that tivoli does not recommend to define more mount points
of the number of drives present in the library

Thanks Amhouche Youssef
AMHOUCHE Youssef wrote:

>I think you need to make more mount point available by increasing the mount
>limit value
>
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>Hi all,
>My 3583 library don't work today when i execute
>backup db t=f devclass=3583_MGC, tivoli give me this message:
>ANR4571E Database backup/restore terminated - = insufficient
>number of mount points available for removable media.
>
>The library always work perfectly and the configuration in tivoli is ok.
>The number of drives is 1 and the mount limit is set to one.
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: 3583 library problem

2004-10-19 Thread Pawel Wozniczka
>The library always work perfectly and the configuration in tivoli is ok.
>The number of drives is 1 and the mount limit is set to one.
>Any ideas?

Hello

Execute  "q path" and/or "q drive" command and check whether all related
devices are online.

What is the platform where TSM is installed on ?  AIX ?

I had a similar problem after some messing with san environment which
altered the numbering of  "/dev/smcX" and "/dev/rmtX" device files.

kind regards

Pawel W


Re: 3583 library problem

2004-10-19 Thread Sergey Chernyaev
May be, another tape was mounted in drive?

I have this trouble with 3582 & TSM 5.2.3 on W2K. Trouble was in devicetype definition
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But,  i think that tivoli does not recommend to define more mount points of the number 
of drives present in the library

Thanks Amhouche Youssef
AMHOUCHE Youssef wrote:

>I think you need to make more mount point available by increasing the 
>mount limit value
>
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>Objet : 3583 library problem
>
>
>Hi all,
>My 3583 library don't work today when i execute backup db t=f 
>devclass=3583_MGC, tivoli give me this message:
>ANR4571E Database backup/restore terminated - = insufficient number of 
>mount points available for removable media.
>
>The library always work perfectly and the configuration in tivoli is ok.
>The number of drives is 1 and the mount limit is set to one.
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: RECLAMATION

2004-10-19 Thread Warren, Matthew (Retail)
Generally, I always run at 50%. 2 tapes into 1. I have been known to
reclaim at 25% when worrying about tape levels over a weekend...

You can run multiple reclamations per storagepool.. but theres a bit of
legfowrk involved. Reclamations are really just move-data's, so you
could start multiple move-data's based on tape %Util. .. You end up with
several tapes you are reclaiming to, and if any of those don't fill past
50% you can reclaim then at the end.

I used to reclaim purely using my chosen order of tapes and move-data's,
as I didn't used to trust the order in which TSM picked the tapes it was
going to reclaim. It seemed to make sense to me to pick the least
utilised tapes first.


Matt.


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Subject: Re: RECLAMATION

I would say go as low as you can without impacting other processes. Why
waste tape I always say .

65% is not bad. I run at 50%.

The trick I have found is to get to a level where the percentage is
sustainable. If you can't get there, and tapes
are becoming an issue, either get more tapes or drives. Reclamation sure
can run a while on todays large
tapes. I wonder when multiple reclaims can be run for a single
pool at once like migration or backup


Also, if you are not getting enough tapes back, make sure expiration is
running to completion regularly.

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:54:31 -0400, Lepre, James wrote:

>What is the IDEAL pct for reclamation, I use 65pct should I go lower
>
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>Here's one
>
>select count(*) from volumes where pct_reclaim>95 and
>stgpool_name='TAPE_DR_COPY'
>
>
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>James,
>
>Do a "query  volume" and look at the  "pct util" column for the tapes
>offsite.   Compare that value with the Reclamation Threshold for your
>pool.   If there are a lot of tapes that meet that threshold and they
>don't come back when they should then you should look to make sure the
>reclamation is running when it should and if it is running to
>completion.Reclamation Threshold
>
>
>Richard
>
>James Lepre wrote:
>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having problem with reclamation.  Tapes are not being recycled
as
>>they should be.  For instance I used get back about 100 tapes per
week,
>>now I am getting back 16.  Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>>



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Re: 3583 library problem

2004-10-19 Thread tani
Solved.

it was a problem in the definition of the route to the drive in
tivoli.By some reason tivoli change the state of the drive to nonactive.
Recently i update the maintenance level in aix maybe this was the problem.

Thanks Pawel.


Pawel Wozniczka wrote:

>>The library always work perfectly and the configuration in tivoli is ok.
>>The number of drives is 1 and the mount limit is set to one.
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
>Hello
>
>Execute  "q path" and/or "q drive" command and check whether all related
>devices are online.
>
>What is the platform where TSM is installed on ?  AIX ?
>
>I had a similar problem after some messing with san environment which
>altered the numbering of  "/dev/smcX" and "/dev/rmtX" device files.
>
>kind regards
>
>Pawel W
>
>
>


Re: 3583 library problem

2004-10-19 Thread Hegedűs György
Drive is online?
Path is online?



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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:09 AM
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Subject: 3583 library problem

Hi all,
My 3583 library don't work today when i execute
backup db t=f devclass=3583_MGC, tivoli give me this message:
ANR4571E Database backup/restore terminated - = insufficient
number of mount points available for removable media.

The library always work perfectly and the configuration in tivoli is ok.
The number of drives is 1 and the mount limit is set to one.
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.


Re: Prioritizing a restore ...

2004-10-19 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Richard,

Thanks for your response. In fact you just confirmed what I thought : my
old TSM server (6H0) must have reached it's limits ! Time to buy some
hardware, our CFO will be pleased hearing this ;-)
Cheers.

Arnaud 


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Subject: Re: Prioritizing a restore ...

On Oct 18, 2004, at 12:05 PM, PAC Brion Arnaud wrote:

> I had hard times, couple of days ago, explaining our management why 
> the restore of an important informix server took more than 12 hours 
> because it was made at the same time (middle of the night) than all 
> the nightly backups, and that TSM server seemed to be overflown by all

> that data ...
>
> Therefore my question : is there any way giving a restore process a 
> higher prioryty than any other server activity, to ensure a faster 
> restore ?

Arnaud - I believe that an Informix restoral would follow the standard
  TSM convention where, per the TSM Admin Guide ("Preemption of
Client or Server Operations"), restorals inherently have a high
priority, as the product's raison d'etre.  Perhaps you have the
NOPREEMPT server option in effect?  If not, check your Activity Log for
what the story is.

Richard Sims


tape status is pending (?)

2004-10-19 Thread Roland Scharlau
Hello,

has anybody an idea when a tape get this status:

Volume Name 86L1 
Storage Pool Name COPYPOOL 
Device Class Name LTOCLASS1 
Estimated Capacity (MB) 0.0 
Scaled Capacity Applied - 
Pct Util 0.0 
Volume Status PENDING 
Access READWRITE 
Pct. Reclaimable Space 0.0 
Scratch Volume? NO 
In Error State? NO

If i update this tape, TSM will change it after a few time to pending.
Many thanks for any idea.

Roland Scharlau

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AW: tape status is pending (?)

2004-10-19 Thread Michael Garnebode
Hi,

look at storgepool definition "reusedelay" parameter
 "q stg COPYPOOL f=d"
After a volumes comes empty the volume change his status to pending 
if reuse delay is defined on storagepool.

You can delete the volume for reuse.
Regards

Michael 

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Hello,

has anybody an idea when a tape get this status:

Volume Name 86L1 
Storage Pool Name COPYPOOL 
Device Class Name LTOCLASS1 
Estimated Capacity (MB) 0.0 
Scaled Capacity Applied - 
Pct Util 0.0 
Volume Status PENDING 
Access READWRITE 
Pct. Reclaimable Space 0.0 
Scratch Volume? NO 
In Error State? NO

If i update this tape, TSM will change it after a few time to pending.
Many thanks for any idea.

Roland Scharlau

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AW: tape status is pending (?)

2004-10-19 Thread Roland Scharlau
Hi Michael,

i changed the parameter to 3 days and deleted the volume.
Now i define it again.
Many thanks for yor answer.

Nice day
Roland



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Hi,

look at storgepool definition "reusedelay" parameter
 "q stg COPYPOOL f=d"
After a volumes comes empty the volume change his status to pending 
if reuse delay is defined on storagepool.

You can delete the volume for reuse.
Regards

Michael 

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Betreff: tape status is pending (?)


Hello,

has anybody an idea when a tape get this status:

Volume Name 86L1 
Storage Pool Name COPYPOOL 
Device Class Name LTOCLASS1 
Estimated Capacity (MB) 0.0 
Scaled Capacity Applied - 
Pct Util 0.0 
Volume Status PENDING 
Access READWRITE 
Pct. Reclaimable Space 0.0 
Scratch Volume? NO 
In Error State? NO

If i update this tape, TSM will change it after a few time to pending. Many thanks for 
any idea.

Roland Scharlau

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Question on HSM & TSM.

2004-10-19 Thread Rowan O'Donoghue
All,

In an environment where you are using HSM to manage disks (say for example
Windows drives) after a period of time the file will be migrated to a
storage pool within TSM and a stub file is left on the filesystem as a
marker.

I'm assuming that when this migration happens the TSM backup/archive client
identifies the change and only backs up the stub - or does it need to
recall the file from HSM and then back it up? If it does only backup the
stub the issue is that you do not have a copy of a real file only a stub
and no data.

Can someone give me an idea as to how they have this type of scenario
implemented within their environment?


kind regards,

Rowan.


Re: Question on HSM & TSM.

2004-10-19 Thread Richard Sims
On Oct 19, 2004, at 6:58 AM, Rowan O'Donoghue wrote:
In an environment where you are using HSM to manage disks (say for
example
Windows drives) after a period of time the file will be migrated
to a
storage pool within TSM and a stub file is left on the filesystem as a
marker.
I'm assuming that when this migration happens the TSM backup/archive
client
identifies the change and only backs up the stub - or does it need to
recall the file from HSM and then back it up? If it does only backup
the
stub the issue is that you do not have a copy of a real file only a
stub
and no data.
Can someone give me an idea as to how they have this type of scenario
implemented within their environment?
Rowan - TSM never backs up HSM stub files, as that would be pointless.
   It backs up the file, either from the file system or directly
from the HSM storage pool if migrated and using same server.
See the (old) HSM redbook at
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg244631.html
which explains how it all works in different configurations, and advises
on restoral methods.
  Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs


Re: Question on HSM & TSM.

2004-10-19 Thread Daniel Sparrman
Richard, Rowan

This is a theoretical scenario only. If the file has been migrated, 
normally the reason is that it hasnt been updated, modified or accessed 
within a specified time limit. Therefore, TSM(with it's progressive 
incremental technology) would never need to backup the file(it hasnt 
changed).

If you where to do a selective backup of all files TSM would retrieve them 
from HSM storage(or, the HSM software would be the one retrieving them as 
TSM are trying to access the files). This however isnt true for all HSM 
products. DX2000(OTG/Legato) can for example co-operate with TSM and only 
let TSM back up the stub files.

There is no reason TSM would backup the HSM migrated  files as migrated 
files normally havent changed.

If you where to change an HSM migrated file, it would normally be recalled 
from HSM storage and therefore no longer be HSM managed.

Mvh // Daniel
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On Oct 19, 2004, at 6:58 AM, Rowan O'Donoghue wrote:

> In an environment where you are using HSM to manage disks (say for
> example
> Windows drives) after a period of time the file will be migrated
> to a
> storage pool within TSM and a stub file is left on the filesystem as a
> marker.
>
> I'm assuming that when this migration happens the TSM backup/archive
> client
> identifies the change and only backs up the stub - or does it need to
> recall the file from HSM and then back it up? If it does only backup
> the
> stub the issue is that you do not have a copy of a real file only a
> stub
> and no data.
>
> Can someone give me an idea as to how they have this type of scenario
> implemented within their environment?

Rowan - TSM never backs up HSM stub files, as that would be pointless.
It backs up the file, either from the file system or 
directly
from the HSM storage pool if migrated and using same server.

See the (old) HSM redbook at
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg244631.html
which explains how it all works in different configurations, and advises
on restoral methods.

   Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs


Re: change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way?

2004-10-19 Thread Hooft, Jeroen
That should work, I moved 2 TSM-servers using this method (one with SSA-disks and one 
with ESS-luns).
To be on the safe side, I first migrated all data from disk to tape and made a 
DB-backup



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Hi,

our TSM Server (Version 5.1.8) is a SP wide node (AIX 5.2_ML02). Now I want
change the server to a new pSeries standalone p615.
Our TSM-diskstoragepool, the database and the logs are on SSA-Disks.

So I think that I must install the new node with the same AIX level and TSM
level (mksysb is not so easy, because it is a SP-node).
After this I stop the old TSM server. Connect the ssa disks on the new
node, import the volumegroups, change the ip configuration on the new node
(so that it is the same as on the old server), connect the library, mount
filesystems, check that device conf, volhis, database and logs are in right
path and than I can start the TSM-Server.

Is this the way?

Best regards,
Frank


Re: Question on HSM & TSM.

2004-10-19 Thread Richard Sims
On Oct 19, 2004, at 7:37 AM, Daniel Sparrman wrote:
This is a theoretical scenario only. If the file has been migrated,
normally the reason is that it hasnt been updated, modified or accessed
within a specified time limit. Therefore, TSM(with it's progressive
incremental technology) would never need to backup the file(it hasnt
changed). ...
The primary criterion for TSM backing up a file is whether it yet
exists within TSM backup pool storage: if TSM does not yet have it,
it wants it in its collection.  So, expect a backup, in standard
Incremental processing.
Whether the file in the HSM-controlled file system migrates is also
a control item: the MIGREQUIRESBkup management class parameter
governs this.
   Richard Sims


Antwort: Re: change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way? [Virus checked]

2004-10-19 Thread Frank Mueller
Hi,

thanks for your answer. Yes I want to migrate all data from disk to our
library and start a DB-Backup.

So I want test it.

Best regards,
Frank




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That should work, I moved 2 TSM-servers using this method (one with
SSA-disks and one with ESS-luns).
To be on the safe side, I first migrated all data from disk to tape and
made a DB-backup



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Hi,

our TSM Server (Version 5.1.8) is a SP wide node (AIX 5.2_ML02). Now I want
change the server to a new pSeries standalone p615.
Our TSM-diskstoragepool, the database and the logs are on SSA-Disks.

So I think that I must install the new node with the same AIX level and TSM
level (mksysb is not so easy, because it is a SP-node).
After this I stop the old TSM server. Connect the ssa disks on the new
node, import the volumegroups, change the ip configuration on the new node
(so that it is the same as on the old server), connect the library, mount
filesystems, check that device conf, volhis, database and logs are in right
path and than I can start the TSM-Server.

Is this the way?

Best regards,
 Frank


Re: Question on HSM & TSM.

2004-10-19 Thread Rowan O'Donoghue
Richard,

I agree with what you say, and it is pointless in restoring the file to the
original filesystem just to back up that file if it is already migrated to
tape. I see that there is an option with DiskXtender to do a backup of the
file to TSM before it is migrated to tape and any subsequent backups of the
file can be ignored if the file size is zero

Still reading ;)

kind regards,

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On Oct 19, 2004, at 6:58 AM, Rowan O'Donoghue wrote:

> In an environment where you are using HSM to manage disks (say for
> example
> Windows drives) after a period of time the file will be migrated
> to a
> storage pool within TSM and a stub file is left on the filesystem as a
> marker.
>
> I'm assuming that when this migration happens the TSM backup/archive
> client
> identifies the change and only backs up the stub - or does it need to
> recall the file from HSM and then back it up? If it does only backup
> the
> stub the issue is that you do not have a copy of a real file only a
> stub
> and no data.
>
> Can someone give me an idea as to how they have this type of scenario
> implemented within their environment?

Rowan - TSM never backs up HSM stub files, as that would be pointless.
               It backs up the file, either from the file system or
directly
from the HSM storage pool if migrated and using same server.

See the (old) HSM redbook at
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg244631.html
which explains how it all works in different configurations, and advises
on restoral methods.

  Richard Sims    http://people.bu.edu/rbs

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Re: tape status is pending (?)

2004-10-19 Thread Warren, Matthew (Retail)
Roland,

Be aware that your reusedelay parameter should be the same as the number of days back 
that you keep TSM DB Backups for.

This ensures that should you need to restore to a database backup other than the most 
recent, data will still be where the older DBBackup thinks it is.

Matt.

_-'-_
  -|-


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Scharlau
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AW: tape status is pending (?)

Hi Michael,

i changed the parameter to 3 days and deleted the volume.
Now i define it again.
Many thanks for yor answer.

Nice day
Roland



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Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Oktober 2004 12:38
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Betreff: AW: tape status is pending (?)


Hi,

look at storgepool definition "reusedelay" parameter
 "q stg COPYPOOL f=d"
After a volumes comes empty the volume change his status to pending 
if reuse delay is defined on storagepool.

You can delete the volume for reuse.
Regards

Michael 

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Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Roland Scharlau
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Oktober 2004 12:18
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: tape status is pending (?)


Hello,

has anybody an idea when a tape get this status:

Volume Name 86L1 
Storage Pool Name COPYPOOL 
Device Class Name LTOCLASS1 
Estimated Capacity (MB) 0.0 
Scaled Capacity Applied - 
Pct Util 0.0 
Volume Status PENDING 
Access READWRITE 
Pct. Reclaimable Space 0.0 
Scratch Volume? NO 
In Error State? NO

If i update this tape, TSM will change it after a few time to pending. Many thanks for 
any idea.

Roland Scharlau

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Re: Migrating to TSM V5.2 on z?OS

2004-10-19 Thread David Moore
Robert -

Both TSM Tech Support and a local consultant recommended that we run the 'cleanup 
backupgroups' utility before we moved up to 5.2 (btw, mine is a z/OS shop and we 
recently moved from 5.1.9 to 5.2.3).  This utility cleans up orphaned database 
objects, which will extend your upgradedb run significantly if not cleaned up.  My 
understanding is that the utility only became available with 5.1.73.  So, we upgraded 
from 5.1.65 to 5.1.9 back in June in preparation for the recent upgrade.  Then, a few 
weeks ago, we went to 5.2.3.

Incidentally, the upgrade from 5.1.9 to 5.2.3 took quite a while for us - about 11 
hours, because of the UPGRADEDB parameter.  My TSM DB is about 23 GB.  Other TSM 
Admins have reported quicker upgrade rates, so your time may very well be better.  
But, as a word of warning, allow a fairly large upgrade window, so you don't have to 
restore to your previous version - like I did the first time I attempted it.

Good luck, 
Dave.

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Klein, Robert (NIH/CIT)
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Migrating to TSM V5.2 on z?OS


Believe it or not, we are still running TSM V4.2.2 on OS/390.  We are
planning to upgrade our OS to z/OS and, along with that, to upgrade to TSM
V5.2.  I have heard that on some other platforms (e.g. AIX) one cannot go
directly from 4.2.2 to V5x.  I don't see anything about such a restriction
in the V5.2 for z/OS Quick Start manual, but wanted to check whether anyone
was aware of this issue for migration to 5.2 on z/OS.  Thanks for any input.


Re: Antwort: Re: change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way? [Virus checked]

2004-10-19 Thread Jin Bae Chi
Since you plan to use portability of vg along with SAN. Here is my 2
cents that may help you better. I don't know if you have SSA drives in
SAN or directly connected to host, but it would work anyway you plan.
AIX5.2ML2 should allow you to make mksysb with any driver necessary to
clone your box in any 'chrp' box. So, if you have only 2 copies of
mirred rootvg, you can make a 3rd one from ESS and change the bootlist
and boot off of it. Then, shutdown the box, move 3rd rootvg copy on ESS
to your new box. Let it see or go to SMS to change mutliboot... Viola!
Just an idea. Make sure with your network core switches set with the
same VLAN or subnet. I don't know if you have HA set on these hosts, but
one more thing that you can try with SAN...


Gus

Jin Bae Chi (Gus)
System Administrator
Data Center, CSCC
614-287-5270
614-287-5488 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/19/04 8:13 AM >>>
Hi,

thanks for your answer. Yes I want to migrate all data from disk to our
library and start a DB-Backup.

So I want test it.

Best regards,
Frank




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That should work, I moved 2 TSM-servers using this method (one with
SSA-disks and one with ESS-luns).
To be on the safe side, I first migrated all data from disk to tape and
made a DB-backup



-Original Message-
From: Frank Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 19 oktober 2004 11:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way? [Virus
checked]


Hi,

our TSM Server (Version 5.1.8) is a SP wide node (AIX 5.2_ML02). Now I
want
change the server to a new pSeries standalone p615.
Our TSM-diskstoragepool, the database and the logs are on SSA-Disks.

So I think that I must install the new node with the same AIX level and
TSM
level (mksysb is not so easy, because it is a SP-node).
After this I stop the old TSM server. Connect the ssa disks on the new
node, import the volumegroups, change the ip configuration on the new
node
(so that it is the same as on the old server), connect the library,
mount
filesystems, check that device conf, volhis, database and logs are in
right
path and than I can start the TSM-Server.

Is this the way?

Best regards,
 Frank


Finding huge client files

2004-10-19 Thread Roger Deschner
I'm starting to see more of these:

ANR0521W Transaction failed for session 62190 for node  -
object excluded by size in storage pool SERVERDISKPOOL and all successor
pools.

...and I want to be able to contact these end=users to determine what
they're trying to back up. But the name of the thing which was too big
is nowhere to be found. This leads to an exchange that always goes
something like this:

ME: You're trying to back up a very, very, very huge file. It isn't
working.
CLIENT: No I'm not. I have no big files. Prove it - what's it called?
ME: Um, I dunno, but you have it.
CLIENT: If you can't name it, I don't have it. Go away and stop
bothering me.

How can I find out the names of these huge files? It doesn't matter
whether I plan to take an accomodating or combative approach - I need to
know the names of these monster files.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Finding huge client files

2004-10-19 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Roger Deschner
>I'm starting to see more of these:
>
>ANR0521W Transaction failed for session 62190 for node 
> - object excluded by size in storage pool 
>SERVERDISKPOOL and all successor pools.
>
>How can I find out the names of these huge files? It doesn't 
>matter whether I plan to take an accomodating or combative 
>approach - I need to know the names of these monster files.

Have you looked at the dsmsched.log files for the offending nodes?

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  


Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way? [Virus checked]

2004-10-19 Thread Frank Mueller
Hi.

We have no SAN and no ESS.
The storagepools, database and logs are in a simple SSA-loop.




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  19.10.2004 15:25
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  Stor Manager"






Since you plan to use portability of vg along with SAN. Here is my 2
cents that may help you better. I don't know if you have SSA drives in
SAN or directly connected to host, but it would work anyway you plan.
AIX5.2ML2 should allow you to make mksysb with any driver necessary to
clone your box in any 'chrp' box. So, if you have only 2 copies of
mirred rootvg, you can make a 3rd one from ESS and change the bootlist
and boot off of it. Then, shutdown the box, move 3rd rootvg copy on ESS
to your new box. Let it see or go to SMS to change mutliboot... Viola!
Just an idea. Make sure with your network core switches set with the
same VLAN or subnet. I don't know if you have HA set on these hosts, but
one more thing that you can try with SAN...


Gus

Jin Bae Chi (Gus)
System Administrator
Data Center, CSCC
614-287-5270
614-287-5488 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/19/04 8:13 AM >>>
Hi,

thanks for your answer. Yes I want to migrate all data from disk to our
library and start a DB-Backup.

So I want test it.

Best regards,
Frank




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  19.10.2004 13:55
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That should work, I moved 2 TSM-servers using this method (one with
SSA-disks and one with ESS-luns).
To be on the safe side, I first migrated all data from disk to tape and
made a DB-backup



-Original Message-
From: Frank Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 19 oktober 2004 11:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way? [Virus
checked]


Hi,

our TSM Server (Version 5.1.8) is a SP wide node (AIX 5.2_ML02). Now I
want
change the server to a new pSeries standalone p615.
Our TSM-diskstoragepool, the database and the logs are on SSA-Disks.

So I think that I must install the new node with the same AIX level and
TSM
level (mksysb is not so easy, because it is a SP-node).
After this I stop the old TSM server. Connect the ssa disks on the new
node, import the volumegroups, change the ip configuration on the new
node
(so that it is the same as on the old server), connect the library,
mount
filesystems, check that device conf, volhis, database and logs are in
right
path and than I can start the TSM-Server.

Is this the way?

Best regards,
  Frank


Re: Migrating to TSM V5.2 on z?OS

2004-10-19 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of David Moore
>My understanding is that [CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS] only 
>became available with 5.1.73.

That is incorrect. CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS became available under later
versions of 4.2.

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  


Re: change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way? [Virus checked]

2004-10-19 Thread Ben Bullock
That looks like the correct procedure. We have moved multiple
TSM servers between AIX hosts and have had no problems. Just make sure
that the server configuration files are all copied over and you should
be fine.

Ben


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Frank Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: change TSM server to a new AIX box. What is the way? [Virus
checked]


Hi,

our TSM Server (Version 5.1.8) is a SP wide node (AIX 5.2_ML02). Now I
want change the server to a new pSeries standalone p615. Our
TSM-diskstoragepool, the database and the logs are on SSA-Disks.

So I think that I must install the new node with the same AIX level and
TSM level (mksysb is not so easy, because it is a SP-node). After this I
stop the old TSM server. Connect the ssa disks on the new node, import
the volumegroups, change the ip configuration on the new node (so that
it is the same as on the old server), connect the library, mount
filesystems, check that device conf, volhis, database and logs are in
right path and than I can start the TSM-Server.

Is this the way?

Best regards,
Frank


AW: tape status is pending (?)

2004-10-19 Thread Roland Scharlau
Hi Matt,

we make every day a Backup from our TSM DB on disk and once in a week on tape.
Is this o.k.?

Roland

.

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Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Warren, Matthew 
(Retail)
Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Oktober 2004 14:48
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: tape status is pending (?)


Roland,

Be aware that your reusedelay parameter should be the same as the number of days back 
that you keep TSM DB Backups for.

This ensures that should you need to restore to a database backup other than the most 
recent, data will still be where the older DBBackup thinks it is.

Matt.

_-'-_
  -|-


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Scharlau
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AW: tape status is pending (?)

Hi Michael,

i changed the parameter to 3 days and deleted the volume.
Now i define it again.
Many thanks for yor answer.

Nice day
Roland



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Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Oktober 2004 12:38
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: AW: tape status is pending (?)


Hi,

look at storgepool definition "reusedelay" parameter
 "q stg COPYPOOL f=d"
After a volumes comes empty the volume change his status to pending 
if reuse delay is defined on storagepool.

You can delete the volume for reuse.
Regards

Michael 

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Oktober 2004 12:18
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: tape status is pending (?)


Hello,

has anybody an idea when a tape get this status:

Volume Name 86L1 
Storage Pool Name COPYPOOL 
Device Class Name LTOCLASS1 
Estimated Capacity (MB) 0.0 
Scaled Capacity Applied - 
Pct Util 0.0 
Volume Status PENDING 
Access READWRITE 
Pct. Reclaimable Space 0.0 
Scratch Volume? NO 
In Error State? NO

If i update this tape, TSM will change it after a few time to pending. Many thanks for 
any idea.

Roland Scharlau

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Restoring to different Oracle database

2004-10-19 Thread Sandra
Dear list,
Do I need to cater for something if I take backup of Database A using TDP for
oracle, and restore it on another machine, with database name B?

As far as the intricacies of filespace name, nodename are concerned, these will
be the same as were on machine A.

Many thanks in advance!
Sandra


Question on FC tape drives.

2004-10-19 Thread Ben Bullock
Folks,

We are moving from 3590E tape drives to 3592 tape drives. We are
also moving from a "direct attach to the TSM server" to a "attachment
through a FC switch".   I'm sure I'm not the first person to make this
change in their environment? Any hints anyone would like to share with
me?

All my TSM servers are on AIX 5.2 and are using the latest and
greatest Atape drivers.

As I read the documentation on the Atape drivers:


(ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Doc/IBM_TotalStorage_tape_IU
G.pdf)

I see that in this new configuration, I could take advantage of
the "Automatic failover" and "Dynamic load balancing" features.  As I
read through the document (Chapter 6), it looks like upon a path
failure, is supposed to fail over transparent to the user, but then has
this note that concerns me:

2. The AIX operating system only supports a static configuration
of devices, which also applies to the Alternate Pathing and Failover
Support. When 
devices are initially configured at a specific SCSI ID and physical
connection (drive port, host bus adapter, and switch number/port, if
applicable) and in the Available state, changing the physical device
address/connection without either rebooting or unconfiguring and
reconfiguring the devices has unpredictable results and is not
supported.

Also, it looks like when you remove your rmt devices (say, to
upgrade the Atape drivers), it looks like the RMT devices may get
reconfigured with totally different rmt numbers, requiring a reconfigure
of the devices defined to the TSM server. 

I'm kind of an orderly guy and like to have my rmt devices
defined sequentially for ease of troubleshooting, but it sounds like it
will take some work on my end to get it to line up nicely like that.

I will be starting my testing phase next Monday where I will
have 2 FC drives and 2 HBAs attached to the SAN. I am going to configure
the FC ports so that both HBAs see both tape drives, so I think I will
see 4 new RMT devices when I run a 'cfgmgr'. 

Anybody else set up in this kind of environment? Any
hints/helpful commands they would like to share with me?

Thanks,
Ben Bullock
Micron Technology 
Boise, Id




 


Re: Question on FC tape drives.

2004-10-19 Thread Orville Lantto
Running tape through the SAN is great!  Whenever there are two or more
paths to a drive, do use alternate pathing.  The warning you refer to
applies to all devices and probably in all computers, if you change
something about the device, you had better inform the driver of the
change!

To deal with the arbitrariness of AIX device names, I use the alternate
name feature of the Atape driver.  I do this especially for HACMP systems
where the names MUST be the same on the HA nodes.  I have chosen to build
the names as "rmt."+"last 4 hex digits of WWN ." = "path number"

 Here is a script fragment showing how I construct a name.

do
WWN=`lsattr -El $d -a ww_name|cut -f2 -d" "|cut -c15-`
root=`echo $d|cut -c1-3`
new_name=$root.$WWN.0
let "j=0"
while [[ -e /dev/$new_name ]]
do
let "j=j+1"
new_name=$root.$WWN.$j
done
chdev -l $d -a new_name=$new_name
done

Good Luck!


Orville L. Lantto
Datatrend Technologies, Inc.  (http://www.datatrend.com)
IBM Premier Business Partner
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Folks,

We are moving from 3590E tape drives to 3592 tape drives. We are
also moving from a "direct attach to the TSM server" to a "attachment
through a FC switch".   I'm sure I'm not the first person to make this
change in their environment? Any hints anyone would like to share with
me?

All my TSM servers are on AIX 5.2 and are using the latest and
greatest Atape drivers.

As I read the documentation on the Atape drivers:


(ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Doc/IBM_TotalStorage_tape_IU
G.pdf)

I see that in this new configuration, I could take advantage of
the "Automatic failover" and "Dynamic load balancing" features.  As I
read through the document (Chapter 6), it looks like upon a path
failure, is supposed to fail over transparent to the user, but then has
this note that concerns me:

2. The AIX operating system only supports a static configuration
of devices, which also applies to the Alternate Pathing and Failover
Support. When
devices are initially configured at a specific SCSI ID and physical
connection (drive port, host bus adapter, and switch number/port, if
applicable) and in the Available state, changing the physical device
address/connection without either rebooting or unconfiguring and
reconfiguring the devices has unpredictable results and is not
supported.

Also, it looks like when you remove your rmt devices (say, to
upgrade the Atape drivers), it looks like the RMT devices may get
reconfigured with totally different rmt numbers, requiring a reconfigure
of the devices defined to the TSM server.

I'm kind of an orderly guy and like to have my rmt devices
defined sequentially for ease of troubleshooting, but it sounds like it
will take some work on my end to get it to line up nicely like that.

I will be starting my testing phase next Monday where I will
have 2 FC drives and 2 HBAs attached to the SAN. I am going to configure
the FC ports so that both HBAs see both tape drives, so I think I will
see 4 new RMT devices when I run a 'cfgmgr'.

Anybody else set up in this kind of environment? Any
hints/helpful commands they would like to share with me?

Thanks,
Ben Bullock
Micron Technology
Boise, Id


Re: Question on FC tape drives.

2004-10-19 Thread Ben Bullock
Excellent,
Just the kind of advice I was looking for. I was unaware of the
alternate name feature on the Atape driver. I believe I see what the
script is doing and should be able to use something similar for my site.

Thanks,
Ben 

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Orville Lantto
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question on FC tape drives.


Running tape through the SAN is great!  Whenever there are two or more
paths to a drive, do use alternate pathing.  The warning you refer to
applies to all devices and probably in all computers, if you change
something about the device, you had better inform the driver of the
change!

To deal with the arbitrariness of AIX device names, I use the alternate
name feature of the Atape driver.  I do this especially for HACMP
systems where the names MUST be the same on the HA nodes.  I have chosen
to build the names as "rmt."+"last 4 hex digits of WWN ." = "path
number"

 Here is a script fragment showing how I construct a name.

do
WWN=`lsattr -El $d -a ww_name|cut -f2 -d" "|cut -c15-`
root=`echo $d|cut -c1-3`
new_name=$root.$WWN.0
let "j=0"
while [[ -e /dev/$new_name ]]
do
let "j=j+1"
new_name=$root.$WWN.$j
done
chdev -l $d -a new_name=$new_name
done

Good Luck!


Orville L. Lantto
Datatrend Technologies, Inc.  (http://www.datatrend.com)
IBM Premier Business Partner
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Question on FC tape drives.






Folks,

We are moving from 3590E tape drives to 3592 tape drives. We are
also moving from a "direct attach to the TSM server" to a "attachment
through a FC switch".   I'm sure I'm not the first person to make this
change in their environment? Any hints anyone would like to share with
me?

All my TSM servers are on AIX 5.2 and are using the latest and
greatest Atape drivers.

As I read the documentation on the Atape drivers:


(ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Doc/IBM_TotalStorage_tape_IU
G.pdf)

I see that in this new configuration, I could take advantage of
the "Automatic failover" and "Dynamic load balancing" features.  As I
read through the document (Chapter 6), it looks like upon a path
failure, is supposed to fail over transparent to the user, but then has
this note that concerns me:

2. The AIX operating system only supports a static configuration
of devices, which also applies to the Alternate Pathing and Failover
Support. When devices are initially configured at a specific SCSI ID and
physical connection (drive port, host bus adapter, and switch
number/port, if
applicable) and in the Available state, changing the physical device
address/connection without either rebooting or unconfiguring and
reconfiguring the devices has unpredictable results and is not
supported.

Also, it looks like when you remove your rmt devices (say, to
upgrade the Atape drivers), it looks like the RMT devices may get
reconfigured with totally different rmt numbers, requiring a reconfigure
of the devices defined to the TSM server.

I'm kind of an orderly guy and like to have my rmt devices
defined sequentially for ease of troubleshooting, but it sounds like it
will take some work on my end to get it to line up nicely like that.

I will be starting my testing phase next Monday where I will
have 2 FC drives and 2 HBAs attached to the SAN. I am going to configure
the FC ports so that both HBAs see both tape drives, so I think I will
see 4 new RMT devices when I run a 'cfgmgr'.

Anybody else set up in this kind of environment? Any
hints/helpful commands they would like to share with me?

Thanks,
Ben Bullock
Micron Technology
Boise, Id