Re: AIX backup command via TSM scheduler

2003-06-09 Thread Neilson Lui
Did some debugging on our backup scripts and it seems that the following
lines are the culprit :

stty intr ''
trap "stty intr ''" 2

Would anyone know what is the purpose of those two lines ?  ( am not
familiar with scripts. The backup scripts are provided for by our IBM
support )

Thanks



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We have an AIX server, so I dont know if the syntax is different, but we do
have AIX clients. we run similar commands but dont use any quotes and dont
include the "-c", an entry for us is like this:

su - oracle /home/oracle/scripts/backup/db_backup.sh

It usually runs fine. however, there are isolated instances where it may
fail with the rc=1 yet still run from the command line. in each of those
cases we have had to step through the entire process with debug statements
to find out what the problem is (keeping in mind that with the su -, the
profile is sourced first.) usually, there ends up being some problem in the
environment or a problem with double sourcing a file. i have no idea why
the
scheduler has problems when it runs okay from the command line. but that is
what we have had to to... debug the process.

Steve

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From: Neilson Lui [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:45 PM
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Subject: AIX backup command via TSM scheduler


Environment:
 Server TSM v5.1.5 on W2k
 Client  TSM v5.1.5 on AIX with Oracle running

Our backup job is currently being scheduled by the cron daemon on AIX via
the command ( issued as root )

  su - userid -c 'sh /tsmscript/backup.sh'

I was trying to have the same command  defined on TSM scheduler. But i was
getting a return code of 1 when the same command is issued by the TSM
scheduler. Is there a way to let the TSM scheduler use another userid
instead of root ?


Any suggestions.


Re: Scheduler failed

2003-06-09 Thread Richard Sims
>I have a Novell client 5 with Tsm client for Novell version 5.1.0.0
>connected to a TSM server AIX version 4.1.5 that give me a scheduler result
>of "Failed" with return code 12.
>I had the files backup but my query event show a result of "failed" ...
>Can anybody help, thanks in advance.

Your NetWare TSM client manual discusses return codes and the response to
non-zero values.  Your schedule log and dsmerror.log should contain the
error involved.

You indicate that your TSM client is running at an initial version-release
level, which is not so good: the first release in a new version always has
a lot of issues fixed by following maintenance levels.  See if you can get
that upgraded to clear up current issues and prevent future ones.  Also
check the TSM server for a similar situation.

  Richard Sims, BU


Restore DB problem

2003-06-09 Thread Tomáš Hrouda Ing.
Hi all,

I have a problem with restore DB from external library STK9310 PowderHorn
managed by Gresham EDT on W2000 TSM server. This is restore of TSM server on
the same machine with volume history file and devconfig file enabled. I did
it many times successfuly with other libraries (almost local SCSI
connected). I prepared DB and RL volumes the same size and location as
original by DSMSERV FORMAT command and try to do restore DB (DSMSERV RESTORE
DB TODATE=date). This is important part of output:

ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 09:17:48 on Nov  5 2002.

Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows
Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.2

:
:

5698-ISE (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999,2002. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.

ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500.
ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 200 megabytes.
ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
ANR4600I Processing volume history file volhist.out.
ANR4620I Database backup series 90 operation 0 device class STKINCCEAGLE.
ANR4622I   Volume 1: EH1143.
ANR4634I Starting point-in-time database restore to date 06/03/2003
15:00:00.
ANR0300I Recovery log format started; assigned capacity 200 megabytes.
ANRD asvolmnt.c(3214): ThreadId<12> Unknown result code (132) from
pvrOpen.
ANRD icstream.c(1631): ThreadId<12> Error 87 opening input stream.
ANRD icrest.c(2076): ThreadId<0> Rc=6 reading header record.
ANR2032E RESTORE DB: Command failed - internal server error detected.

Environment:
TSM server 5.1.5.2 on W2000, Gresham EDT controled library STK9310 with 6x
STK9840 FC drives, virtualized through SN/6000. I see all drives in system,
Gresham is running and working good (I can do mounts, query ..etc).

Do anybody have some idea what is the problem, or would I open PMR on IBM
support?

Many thanks

Tomas Hrouda
Storage Specialist
HTD s.r.o. Praha
CZECH REPUBLIC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Restore DB problem

2003-06-09 Thread Henschell, John
Tomas,

I saw these same errors setting up a TSM 5.2 server in an AIX environment
going to a STK 9310 using Gresham EDT software.  I could do queries but not
read/write to any tapes.  My problem was, after I defined the library I
needed to run the define path command;

>define path tsmservername stklibraryname srctype=external desttype=library
externalmanager=/usr/lpp/dtelm/bin/elm

The externalmanager path will be different.  I hope this helps

John Henschell

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From: Tomáš Hrouda Ing. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Restore DB problem


Hi all,

I have a problem with restore DB from external library STK9310 PowderHorn
managed by Gresham EDT on W2000 TSM server. This is restore of TSM server on
the same machine with volume history file and devconfig file enabled. I did
it many times successfuly with other libraries (almost local SCSI
connected). I prepared DB and RL volumes the same size and location as
original by DSMSERV FORMAT command and try to do restore DB (DSMSERV RESTORE
DB TODATE=date). This is important part of output:

ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 09:17:48 on Nov  5 2002.

Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows
Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.2

:
:

5698-ISE (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999,2002. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.

ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500.
ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 200 megabytes.
ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
ANR4600I Processing volume history file volhist.out.
ANR4620I Database backup series 90 operation 0 device class STKINCCEAGLE.
ANR4622I   Volume 1: EH1143.
ANR4634I Starting point-in-time database restore to date 06/03/2003
15:00:00.
ANR0300I Recovery log format started; assigned capacity 200 megabytes.
ANRD asvolmnt.c(3214): ThreadId<12> Unknown result code (132) from
pvrOpen.
ANRD icstream.c(1631): ThreadId<12> Error 87 opening input stream.
ANRD icrest.c(2076): ThreadId<0> Rc=6 reading header record.
ANR2032E RESTORE DB: Command failed - internal server error detected.

Environment:
TSM server 5.1.5.2 on W2000, Gresham EDT controled library STK9310 with 6x
STK9840 FC drives, virtualized through SN/6000. I see all drives in system,
Gresham is running and working good (I can do mounts, query ..etc).

Do anybody have some idea what is the problem, or would I open PMR on IBM
support?

Many thanks

Tomas Hrouda
Storage Specialist
HTD s.r.o. Praha
CZECH REPUBLIC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Restore DB problem

2003-06-09 Thread Tomáš Hrouda Ing.
Hi John,

of course I have defined path to this library, both DEFINE LIBRARY and
DEFINE PATH commands are in devcnfg.out file (which is used in single-user
mode for device configuration, when you do DB restore), because TSM server
was operational OK  before restore and I have both devcnfg.out and
volhist.out files in server directory.

Here is part of devcnfg.out:
DEFINE LIBRARY STKINCCEAGLE LIBTYPE=EXTERNAL LANFREE=YES
OBEYMOUNTRETENTION=YES
DEFINE PATH TSMOPENSRV STKINCCEAGLE SRCTYPE=SERVER DESTTYPE=LIBRARY
EXTERNALMANAGER='c:\program files\GES\EDT\bin\elm.exe'

Any other idea?
With best regards
Tomas

> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Henschell, John
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Restore DB problem
>
>
> Tomas,
>
> I saw these same errors setting up a TSM 5.2 server in an AIX environment
> going to a STK 9310 using Gresham EDT software.  I could do
> queries but not
> read/write to any tapes.  My problem was, after I defined the library I
> needed to run the define path command;
>
> >define path tsmservername stklibraryname srctype=external
> desttype=library
> externalmanager=/usr/lpp/dtelm/bin/elm
>
> The externalmanager path will be different.  I hope this helps
>
> John Henschell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Toma9 Hrouda Ing. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Restore DB problem
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a problem with restore DB from external library STK9310 PowderHorn
> managed by Gresham EDT on W2000 TSM server. This is restore of
> TSM server on
> the same machine with volume history file and devconfig file
> enabled. I did
> it many times successfuly with other libraries (almost local SCSI
> connected). I prepared DB and RL volumes the same size and location as
> original by DSMSERV FORMAT command and try to do restore DB
> (DSMSERV RESTORE
> DB TODATE=date). This is important part of output:
>
> ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 09:17:48 on Nov  5 2002.
>
> Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows
> Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.2
>
> :
> :
>
> 5698-ISE (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999,2002. All rights reserved.
> U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
> restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
>
> ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500.
> ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 200 megabytes.
> ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
> ANR4600I Processing volume history file volhist.out.
> ANR4620I Database backup series 90 operation 0 device class STKINCCEAGLE.
> ANR4622I   Volume 1: EH1143.
> ANR4634I Starting point-in-time database restore to date 06/03/2003
> 15:00:00.
> ANR0300I Recovery log format started; assigned capacity 200 megabytes.
> ANRD asvolmnt.c(3214): ThreadId<12> Unknown result code (132) from
> pvrOpen.
> ANRD icstream.c(1631): ThreadId<12> Error 87 opening input stream.
> ANRD icrest.c(2076): ThreadId<0> Rc=6 reading header record.
> ANR2032E RESTORE DB: Command failed - internal server error detected.
>
> Environment:
> TSM server 5.1.5.2 on W2000, Gresham EDT controled library STK9310 with 6x
> STK9840 FC drives, virtualized through SN/6000. I see all drives
> in system,
> Gresham is running and working good (I can do mounts, query ..etc).
>
> Do anybody have some idea what is the problem, or would I open PMR on IBM
> support?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Tomas Hrouda
> Storage Specialist
> HTD s.r.o. Praha
> CZECH REPUBLIC
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


ANS1353E Session rejected: Unknown or incorrect ID entered

2003-06-09 Thread shekhar Dhotre
Hi all,

I am getting following error on one of the REdhat Advanced server2.1 when
trying to use tsm client(new installation). I have uninstalled and
reinstalled tsm client, removed and re-added in tsm server tried  to
register using open registration  without any luck.Other Linux Advanced
servers are running tsm clients without any problems - all are on same
client code level.

Am I missing something here ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# dsmc
Tivoli Storage Manager
Command Line Backup/Archive Client Interface - Version 5, Release 1, Level
5.0
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2002 All Rights Reserved.

tsm> i
Node Name: USATL01LW206.ERE.COM
Please enter your user id : usatl01lw206

ANS1353E Session rejected: Unknown or incorrect ID entered

Please enter your user id : usatl01lw206

ANS1353E Session rejected: Unknown or incorrect ID entered

tsm> quit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# uname -a
Linux usatl01lw206.ere.com 2.4.9-e.3smp #1 SMP Fri May 3 16:48:54 EDT 2002
i686
unknown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qa | grep -i tiv
TIVguid-1.1.0-0
TIVsm-BA-5.1.5-0
TIVsm-API-5.1.5-0


client direct login on 5.1.6.2 TSM

2003-06-09 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi Everyone!

I have a TSM server 5.1.6.2 on os/390 2.10 and users backup their PC's to
TSM.  Previously they were asked for a userid and password to access TSM
for restores, backups, etc.  but now when they go to do this it is directly
connecting to the TSM server.  I have recently upgraded this server from
4.1.5 to 5.1.6.2, but we are using an exact copy of the opt file for the
tsm server.  Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions as to why this may be
occurring?  Thanks!

Joni Moyer
Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338


TSM and Servers running Nortel Symposium software

2003-06-09 Thread Amini, Mehdi
Has anyone backed up Nortel Symposium software using TSM?

Mehdi Amini
LAN/WAN Engineer
ValueOptions
12369 Sunrise Valley Drive
Suite C
Reston, VA 20191
Phone: 703-390-6855
Fax: 703-390-2581



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Re: client direct login on 5.1.6.2 TSM

2003-06-09 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I have a TSM server 5.1.6.2 on os/390 2.10 and users backup their PC's to
TSM.  Previously they were asked for a userid and password to access TSM
for restores, backups, etc.  but now when they go to do this it is directly
connecting to the TSM server.  I have recently upgraded this server from
4.1.5 to 5.1.6.2, but we are using an exact copy of the opt file for the
tsm server.  Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions as to why this may be
occurring?  Thanks!

The line
 
passwordaccess generate
 
in the dsm.opt file allows the TSM client to store an encrypted copy of their TSM 
password in the Windows registry. That's why they don't have to authenticate.

 



Re: TSM and Servers running Nortel Symposium software

2003-06-09 Thread Kamp, Bruce
We have Symposium in house but they will not let us use TSM.  VENDORS!


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Has anyone backed up Nortel Symposium software using TSM?

Mehdi Amini
LAN/WAN Engineer
ValueOptions
12369 Sunrise Valley Drive
Suite C
Reston, VA 20191
Phone: 703-390-6855
Fax: 703-390-2581



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mpDestroy message when running Archive

2003-06-09 Thread Henschell, John
Hi all,

I'm hoping someone has seen this before.  I have a Solaris 8 client running
TSM 4.2.1.0 client code backing up to a ZOS TSM server using TSM 5.1.6.2
sever code.  I'm Archive files that are NFS mounted from a NAS storage
subsystem, there is about 17GB of data to be archived.  The Archive starts
out fine, but gets to around 900MB and slows to a crawl.  I see the message
"mpDestroy: Memory Pool #23 doesn't exist".  The file it is archiving is
1GB+ in size, is there some shared memory setting I'm missing here or
something?

Thanks in advance for any information anyone can provide.

John C. Henschell
Enterprise Storage Solutions
TLR Technical Services
West, a Thomson Business
Phone 651-687-8154
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approved or reviewed by WestGroup"


Re: TSM and Servers running Nortel Symposium software

2003-06-09 Thread Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage)
We have Symposium in house and are using TSM to back it up.  We timed the
backup based on some processes that are run to dump the db's to a network
file share.  However, we have not been allowed to do a recovery test. So we
are not sure how well we could recover the systems in the event of a
disaster.



Matt Adams
Tivoli Storage Manager Team
Hermitage Site Tech
Deloitte and Touche USA LLP



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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM and Servers running Nortel Symposium software


We have Symposium in house but they will not let us use TSM.  VENDORS!


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Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Has anyone backed up Nortel Symposium software using TSM?

Mehdi Amini
LAN/WAN Engineer
ValueOptions
12369 Sunrise Valley Drive
Suite C
Reston, VA 20191
Phone: 703-390-6855
Fax: 703-390-2581



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Re: client direct login on 5.1.6.2 TSM

2003-06-09 Thread Joni Moyer
Mark,

I am not very familiar with the client side of TSM, but the user told me
that the passwordaccess generate wasn't enabled.  Is there any other way
that it would generate the password?  Is there a parameter on the TSM
server that would override this parameter?  Thanks again!

(This occurred at the client 4.1.5 level and the 5.1.5 level.)

Joni Moyer
Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338



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From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a TSM server 5.1.6.2 on os/390 2.10 and users backup their PC's to
TSM.  Previously they were asked for a userid and password to access TSM
for restores, backups, etc.  but now when they go to do this it is directly
connecting to the TSM server.  I have recently upgraded this server from
4.1.5 to 5.1.6.2, but we are using an exact copy of the opt file for the
tsm server.  Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions as to why this may be
occurring?  Thanks!

The line

passwordaccess generate

in the dsm.opt file allows the TSM client to store an encrypted copy of
their TSM password in the Windows registry. That's why they don't have to
authenticate.


Re: Restore DB problem

2003-06-09 Thread Michael Swinhoe
I got the same error when I was doing a DB restore for one of our W2K
Library clients.  The issues was I had define the device name using the
/dev/mt0.0.0.n.  In W2K the device name does not need the (/dev), as that
is a AIX definition.

Mike.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services
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Tomas,

I saw these same errors setting up a TSM 5.2 server in an AIX environment
going to a STK 9310 using Gresham EDT software.  I could do queries but not
read/write to any tapes.  My problem was, after I defined the library I
needed to run the define path command;

>define path tsmservername stklibraryname srctype=external desttype=library
externalmanager=/usr/lpp/dtelm/bin/elm

The externalmanager path will be different.  I hope this helps

John Henschell

-Original Message-
From: Tomá? Hrouda Ing. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Restore DB problem


Hi all,

I have a problem with restore DB from external library STK9310 PowderHorn
managed by Gresham EDT on W2000 TSM server. This is restore of TSM server
on
the same machine with volume history file and devconfig file enabled. I did
it many times successfuly with other libraries (almost local SCSI
connected). I prepared DB and RL volumes the same size and location as
original by DSMSERV FORMAT command and try to do restore DB (DSMSERV
RESTORE
DB TODATE=date). This is important part of output:

ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 09:17:48 on Nov  5 2002.

Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows
Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.2

:
:

5698-ISE (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999,2002. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.

ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500.
ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 200 megabytes.
ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
ANR4600I Processing volume history file volhist.out.
ANR4620I Database backup series 90 operation 0 device class STKINCCEAGLE.
ANR4622I   Volume 1: EH1143.
ANR4634I Starting point-in-time database restore to date 06/03/2003
15:00:00.
ANR0300I Recovery log format started; assigned capacity 200 megabytes.
ANRD asvolmnt.c(3214): ThreadId<12> Unknown result code (132) from
pvrOpen.
ANRD icstream.c(1631): ThreadId<12> Error 87 opening input stream.
ANRD icrest.c(2076): ThreadId<0> Rc=6 reading header record.
ANR2032E RESTORE DB: Command failed - internal server error detected.

Environment:
TSM server 5.1.5.2 on W2000, Gresham EDT controled library STK9310 with 6x
STK9840 FC drives, virtualized through SN/6000. I see all drives in system,
Gresham is running and working good (I can do mounts, query ..etc).

Do anybody have some idea what is the problem, or would I open PMR on IBM
support?

Many thanks

Tomas Hrouda
Storage Specialist
HTD s.r.o. Praha
CZECH REPUBLIC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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Re: client direct login on 5.1.6.2 TSM

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Joni, from an Admin CLI, issue this command:

   query status

And look at the line for "Authentication". Does it say "On" or "Off" ? If
it is off, then somehow authentication was disabled on your server. Use
the command

   set authentication on

to re-enable authentication.

If that is not the problem, then try this test:

1) Register a new test node on your TSM server, i.e.:

   register node jonitest x

(x is the password for node jonitest.)

2) From your workstation (presumably you have a workstation, and have TSM
installed on it!   :-), create a new options file named dsm.opt.jonitest
like this:

   commmethod tcpip
   tcpserveraddress your.tsm.server.address
   tcpport 
   nodename jonitest

Note: tcpport is needed only if your TSM server uses a port other than the
default of 1500.

3) Run a TSM command from an OS prompt and see whether you are prompted
for a password:

   dsmc query session -optfile=dsm.opt.jonitest

Are you prompted for a password? If so, then the clients who are not
prompted for passwords are almost certainly using passwordaccess generate.

Note that the client scheduler service on Windows will use passwordaccess
generate regardless of whether you explicitly put it in dsm.opt.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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Mark,

I am not very familiar with the client side of TSM, but the user told me
that the passwordaccess generate wasn't enabled.  Is there any other way
that it would generate the password?  Is there a parameter on the TSM
server that would override this parameter?  Thanks again!

(This occurred at the client 4.1.5 level and the 5.1.5 level.)

Joni Moyer
Systems Programmer
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From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a TSM server 5.1.6.2 on os/390 2.10 and users backup their PC's to
TSM.  Previously they were asked for a userid and password to access TSM
for restores, backups, etc.  but now when they go to do this it is
directly
connecting to the TSM server.  I have recently upgraded this server from
4.1.5 to 5.1.6.2, but we are using an exact copy of the opt file for the
tsm server.  Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions as to why this may be
occurring?  Thanks!

The line

passwordaccess generate

in the dsm.opt file allows the TSM client to store an encrypted copy of
their TSM password in the Windows registry. That's why they don't have to
authenticate.


Slightly off the topic

2003-06-09 Thread Mahesh Tailor
Hello -

Has anyone gone through an AIX 4.3.3.10 (32-bit) upgrade to AIX 5.2
(64-bit) on an ITSM server?  If so, can you share your experience with
regard to the upgrade?  Any gotcha's?  Any hints or tips?  Best method
of approaching the upgrade?

My current environment is as follows:

IBM pSeries 6M1
6GB RAM
6-processors
439GB Ultra-SCSI attached storage
IBM 3494 Library w/6-3590H1A FC drives [direct-attached]
No SAN
1 - EtherChannel [2-1GB adapters)
1 - 10/100 Ethernet for LAN communications with 3494
ITSM 5.1.6.4
AIX 4.3.3.10

Thanks.

Mahesh


DB volume copies offline

2003-06-09 Thread Dearman, Richard
Some of my database volume copies are showing offline.  How do I set them
back to online.



Thanks

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Re: DB volume copies offline

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Refer to the VARY command in the Admin reference (or issue HELP VARY) from
the Admin command line interface.

You should also examine your activity log for any messages regarding the
offline db volume so that you can figure out why it was varied offline.

Regards,

Andy

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Some of my database volume copies are showing offline.  How do I set them
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Re: DB volume copies offline

2003-06-09 Thread Richard Sims
>Some of my database volume copies are showing offline.  How do I set them
>back to online.

Database volume, vary back on   'VARy ONline VolName'


Re: anyone using ATA disk systems

2003-06-09 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
--> A large disk pool does not appear useful for:
1)  Small number of nodes with large to huge size backups. TDP nodes
would be a good example of this (our case).

Switch to convinient tape backup technology. The benefits:
-   small mount time delay will be well paid by increased speed of
backups/restores. ATA disk arrays are targeted to be best at
capacity/price (big ammounts of data with average throughput). LTO-1 or
LTO-2 will be considerably faster even running on few drives in parallel.
Balancing the load over several sessions/drives will ensure you better
performance.
-   reduced storage expansion expenses. Adding a new frame with
several 100s of tape cartridges is cheaper than adding two new racks of
ATA drives. Floor space also adds to the calculation. Data tends to grow
at very unexpected rates.
-   tapes do not wear out that fast. OTOH on long-run disks are more
vulnerable to failures. In 3 to 10 years (depends on vendor/model,
environment) you will have to replace *all* disk in a running array.
-   much lower power consumption, resulting less investments for power
protection, air conditioning, etc. Lower fan noise would be some kind of
side effect.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






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So how are people using (planning to use) large
disk pools (either random or FILE - with or
without Sanergy)?

Migration's one process per node seems to limit
the usefulness of the large disk pool to
implement disk to disk backup.

A large disk pool appears useful for:
1)  Large number of nodes with small to
medium size backups (small, medium,
large and huge are dependent on your
hardware) and you migrate to tape.
2)  Disk pool is large enough to contain
all primary backup data and you do
no migration to tape.

A large disk pool does not appear useful for:
1)  Small number of nodes with large to
huge size backups. TDP nodes would be
a good example of this (our case).

Is there some work-around for this migration issue?

Fred
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>We have also been looking at using a large diskpool.
>It appears migration only uses one tape drive per node.
>So, if you use TDP to back up 500GB to disk and then
>run migration, it will only use one tape drive to
>migrate that 500GB.
>
>Is this true?

Migration has historically run as one process per node's data,
so what you are seeing seems to say that this remains true today.

  Richard Sims, BU


Oxford University TSM Symposium 2003 - Announcement and Bookings Open

2003-06-09 Thread Sheelagh Treweek
Dear All,

We are holding the third Oxford University TSM Symposium and would be
pleased to have your participation at St Catherines's College, Oxford
from 23rd to 25th September 2003.

   'Tivoli Storage Manager : A New Perspective'

Each new release of IBM Tivoli Storage Manager (TSM)
brings new perspectives on TSM and with it new challenges
- keeping up with the latest features, upgrading existing
services and exploiting new functionality. The TSM
Symposium 2003 will give opportunities to gain technical
insight into TSM, with presentations from IBM Development
and Marketing as well as contributions from experienced
and established users.

Details at  http://tsm-symposium.oucs.ox.ac.uk/

Register at http://tsm-symposium.oucs.ox.ac.uk/registration.html

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--
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Re: anyone using ATA disk systems

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Raibeck
We have not done a lot of testing on this, so this can not be taken as a
definitive statement. With that said, the following sums up our current
thoughts on this:

- Because there is no reclamation for random access storage pools, (a)
disk fragmentation is definitely a concern, and (b) aggregates are not
rebuilt, so as objects within an aggregate expire, that space is not freed
up until all objects in the aggregate have expired. This can cause
inefficient utilization of the disk space over time.

- FILE device classes could be used, but represent configuration and
performance concerns.

- While such an environment is technically possible, it is not the
intended TSM usage model, and we do not recommend it at this time.

- We continue to study this issue.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.


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Hey Andy R, how about getting some Tivoli developers on the server-side
to throw some answers at this.  I have spoken with many users, business
partners, & architects and have yet to get a consistant picture.  Some
insist that using one huge diskpool works fine, others say the disk
format leads to disastrous fragmentation and the only way to go is file
class volumes, still others say not to even try this approach.  Maybe a
Tivoli white paper specifically addressing disk-only primary storage
pools would give a definitive answer?

-Original Message-
From: Talafous, John G. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: anyone using ATA disk systems


We too are considering a mass expansion of our storage pools to
implement Disk to Disk backup via TSM. The reason is to enhance recovery
times. The Nexsan ATABeast is under consideration.  We currently have
about 40TB backed up to TSM storage pools. I am thinking of bringing in
MANY TB of ATABeast so that we can discontinue migration to tape. I am
curious as to what happens internally in TSM when you drive your storage
pool utilization to, say, 80% and hold it there?  Are there any
performance penalties?  Any cautions? Any real world experience?  How
much ATA should I consider?

TIA,
John G. Talafous  IS Technical Principal
The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support
P.O. Box 6927 Data Management
1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390
Canton, Ohio USA  44706-0927  Fax  : (330)-471-4034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.timken.com


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Re: anyone using ATA disk systems

2003-06-09 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Addendum: I as I said earlier, we continue to study the matter. Possible
outcomes include enhancements that will enable TSM to function better in
an all disk storage pool environment, although we make no commitments at
this time.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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We have not done a lot of testing on this, so this can not be taken as a
definitive statement. With that said, the following sums up our current
thoughts on this:

- Because there is no reclamation for random access storage pools, (a)
disk fragmentation is definitely a concern, and (b) aggregates are not
rebuilt, so as objects within an aggregate expire, that space is not freed
up until all objects in the aggregate have expired. This can cause
inefficient utilization of the disk space over time.

- FILE device classes could be used, but represent configuration and
performance concerns.

- While such an environment is technically possible, it is not the
intended TSM usage model, and we do not recommend it at this time.

- We continue to study this issue.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.


Steve Schaub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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05/23/2003 07:08
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cc:
Subject:Re: anyone using ATA disk systems



Hey Andy R, how about getting some Tivoli developers on the server-side
to throw some answers at this.  I have spoken with many users, business
partners, & architects and have yet to get a consistant picture.  Some
insist that using one huge diskpool works fine, others say the disk
format leads to disastrous fragmentation and the only way to go is file
class volumes, still others say not to even try this approach.  Maybe a
Tivoli white paper specifically addressing disk-only primary storage
pools would give a definitive answer?

-Original Message-
From: Talafous, John G. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: anyone using ATA disk systems


We too are considering a mass expansion of our storage pools to
implement Disk to Disk backup via TSM. The reason is to enhance recovery
times. The Nexsan ATABeast is under consideration.  We currently have
about 40TB backed up to TSM storage pools. I am thinking of bringing in
MANY TB of ATABeast so that we can discontinue migration to tape. I am
curious as to what happens internally in TSM when you drive your storage
pool utilization to, say, 80% and hold it there?  Are there any
performance penalties?  Any cautions? Any real world experience?  How
much ATA should I consider?

TIA,
John G. Talafous  IS Technical Principal
The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support
P.O. Box 6927 Data Management
1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390
Canton, Ohio USA  44706-0927  Fax  : (330)-471-4034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.timken.com


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STORAGNT not working, any suggestions?

2003-06-09 Thread Joni Moyer
Hello again everyone!

Right now we have another TPOC going that is working with a 3584 LTO2
library with 2 drives so that we can test LAN-free.  (Our previous 2 tests
with 9840B and 3590E were not true LAN-free tests because we only had one
drive and a manual library)  Right now we are having problems with the
storagnt configuration.  We are seeing the following messages.  The
individuals working on this would just like to know if anyone has any
suggestions/comments.  Also, if anyone would be willing to send us your
dsm.sys file on the client, dsmsta.opt file on the storagnt, and anything
else that may pertain to this setup we would greatly appreciate it!

Thank you in advance!!



ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 15:37:52 on Feb 10 2003.
ANR7801I Subsystem process ID is 5441.
ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500.
ANR8209E Unable to establish TCP/IP session with 157.154.43.104 -
connection
refused.
ANR0454E Session rejected by server SERVER1, reason: Communication Failure.
ANR3602E Unable to communicate with database server.
ANR8209E Unable to establish TCP/IP session with 157.154.43.104 -
connection
refused.
ANR0454E Session rejected by server SERVER1, reason: Communication Failure.
ANRD smtb.c(5575): ThreadId<0> Error Beginning Storage Service Cancel
Session transaction.
ANR3602E Unable to communicate with database server.
TSM:STORAGENT>
Joni Moyer
Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338


Re: STORAGNT not working, any suggestions?

2003-06-09 Thread Cory Heikel
Joni,

Make sure that the sa on the client side is communicating on the port
that the server is expecting.
ie - server tcpport = SaServer low level address = lladdress in
devconfig.txt = tcpport in dsmsta.opt

Cory

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/09/03 02:29PM >>>
Hello again everyone!

Right now we have another TPOC going that is working with a 3584 LTO2
library with 2 drives so that we can test LAN-free.  (Our previous 2
tests
with 9840B and 3590E were not true LAN-free tests because we only had
one
drive and a manual library)  Right now we are having problems with the
storagnt configuration.  We are seeing the following messages.  The
individuals working on this would just like to know if anyone has any
suggestions/comments.  Also, if anyone would be willing to send us
your
dsm.sys file on the client, dsmsta.opt file on the storagnt, and
anything
else that may pertain to this setup we would greatly appreciate
it!

Thank you in advance!!



ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 15:37:52 on Feb 10 2003.
ANR7801I Subsystem process ID is 5441.
ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500.
ANR8209E Unable to establish TCP/IP session with 157.154.43.104 -
connection
refused.
ANR0454E Session rejected by server SERVER1, reason: Communication
Failure.
ANR3602E Unable to communicate with database server.
ANR8209E Unable to establish TCP/IP session with 157.154.43.104 -
connection
refused.
ANR0454E Session rejected by server SERVER1, reason: Communication
Failure.
ANRD smtb.c(5575): ThreadId<0> Error Beginning Storage Service
Cancel
Session transaction.
ANR3602E Unable to communicate with database server.
TSM:STORAGENT>
Joni Moyer
Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338


Re: STORAGNT not working, any suggestions?

2003-06-09 Thread Burton, Robert
This has happened to me in the past, when I incorrectly entered the
dsmsta
setstorageserver command incorrectly.

In my case any traffic from the client node to the tsm server would get
the
same message (not only the storageagent also the ba client)

I had to recycle the tsm server to free up whatever got hosed up on the
tcpip side of things.
Then delete the storage agent and server entries in the devconfig file
and
re-enter the dsmsta setstorageserver command again...

thanks
Robert Burton
Enterprise Storage Network Analyst
Royal Bank of Canada
315 Front St West
Toronto, On, M5V 3A4
* 416-348-3849
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-Original Message-
From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: STORAGNT not working, any suggestions?


Hello again everyone!

Right now we have another TPOC going that is working with a 3584 LTO2
library with 2 drives so that we can test LAN-free.  (Our previous 2
tests
with 9840B and 3590E were not true LAN-free tests because we only had
one
drive and a manual library)  Right now we are having problems with the
storagnt configuration.  We are seeing the following messages.  The
individuals working on this would just like to know if anyone has any
suggestions/comments.  Also, if anyone would be willing to send us your
dsm.sys file on the client, dsmsta.opt file on the storagnt, and
anything
else that may pertain to this setup we would greatly appreciate it!

Thank you in advance!!



ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 15:37:52 on Feb 10 2003.
ANR7801I Subsystem process ID is 5441.
ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500.
ANR8209E Unable to establish TCP/IP session with 157.154.43.104 -
connection
refused.
ANR0454E Session rejected by server SERVER1, reason: Communication
Failure.
ANR3602E Unable to communicate with database server.
ANR8209E Unable to establish TCP/IP session with 157.154.43.104 -
connection
refused.
ANR0454E Session rejected by server SERVER1, reason: Communication
Failure.
ANRD smtb.c(5575): ThreadId<0> Error Beginning Storage Service
Cancel
Session transaction.
ANR3602E Unable to communicate with database server.
TSM:STORAGENT>
Joni Moyer
Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338


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changing weekday to sunday - friday

2003-06-09 Thread Eddie Jones
Hello gang.  Is it possible int tsm to change weekday in schedules to be
sunday - friday instead of monday through friday.  I want to run my
schedules everyday except saturday.  If I can't change this, is there an
easy way to set this up?

Thank you in advance.


Eddie Jones
770-953-1959 ext.2824

"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right
sometimes."
- Sir Winston Spencer Churchill


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Re: anyone using ATA disk systems

2003-06-09 Thread Talafous, John G.
Mr. Raibeck,
  I appreciate your feedback and, being involved in IT for some 30 years, I
understand the technical challenges involved. That is why I posted the
question. With the falling cost of disk architecture, a disk to disk backup
alternative seems to be coming close to rivaling disk to tape as a backup
alternative. Especially when dealing with some of the more sophisticated
tape solutions that involve the mainframe/zArchitecture.
  If I size my TSM solution such that I can recover 'x' number of
application servers in a given number of hours, then I will require a
certain number of tape drives based on the data transfer rate of each tape
drive.  Hence, any recovery process in DR mode is limited to the number of
tape drives available. Ouch!!! With disk to disk, my limitation is the TSM
server and the network.
  Add to the mix the fact that tape data transfer speeds are less than SCSI
and/or ATA data transfer speeds and the thought is that with capacity of
disk architectures increasing rapidly and the price currently lower than
tape, it makes sense to back up everything to disk!!! Faster and lower cost!
So, I/we would appreciate IBM Tivoli's support of this concept.
  With all the pressure on budgets and all these jobs NAFTAing, I MUST
arrive at the best solution! Thanks for your consideration.

John G. Talafous  IS Technical Principal
The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support
P.O. Box 6927 Data Management
1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390
Canton, Ohio USA  44706-0927  Fax  : (330)-471-4034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.timken.com


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: anyone using ATA disk systems


Addendum: I as I said earlier, we continue to study the matter. Possible
outcomes include enhancements that will enable TSM to function better in
an all disk storage pool environment, although we make no commitments at
this time.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
06/09/2003 10:25
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"


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cc:
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We have not done a lot of testing on this, so this can not be taken as a
definitive statement. With that said, the following sums up our current
thoughts on this:

- Because there is no reclamation for random access storage pools, (a)
disk fragmentation is definitely a concern, and (b) aggregates are not
rebuilt, so as objects within an aggregate expire, that space is not freed
up until all objects in the aggregate have expired. This can cause
inefficient utilization of the disk space over time.

- FILE device classes could be used, but represent configuration and
performance concerns.

- While such an environment is technically possible, it is not the
intended TSM usage model, and we do not recommend it at this time.

- We continue to study this issue.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.


Steve Schaub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05/23/2003 07:08
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Re: anyone using ATA disk systems



Hey Andy R, how about getting some Tivoli developers on the server-side
to throw some answers at this.  I have spoken with many users, business
partners, & architects and have yet to get a consistant picture.  Some
insist that using one huge diskpool works fine, others say the disk
format leads to disastrous fragmentation and the only way to go is file
class volumes, still others say not to even try this approach.  Maybe a
Tivoli white paper specifically addressing disk-only primary storage
pools would give a definitive answer?

-Original Message-
From: Talafous, John G. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: anyone using ATA disk systems


We too are considering a mass expansion of our storage pools to
implement Disk to Disk backup via TSM. The reason is to enhance recovery
times. The Nexsan ATABeast is under consideration.  We currently have
about 40TB backed up to TSM storage pools. I am thinking of bringing in
MANY TB of ATABeast so that we can discon

Re: Restore DB problem

2003-06-09 Thread Curtis Stewart
Is your library set up as "manual" in the devconfig? In my experience,
using an external library requires this setup for the DB restore. Give
that a shot. We had similar problems with a DB restore one time using an
STK 9310 Library. Once we had the devconfig right, it worked like a charm.
Curtis Stewart

Michael Swinhoe wrote:

I got the same error when I was doing a DB restore for one of our W2K
Library clients.  The issues was I had define the device name using the
/dev/mt0.0.0.n.  In W2K the device name does not need the (/dev), as that
is a AIX definition.
Mike.

Regards,
Michael Swinhoe
Storage Management Group
Zurich Financial Services
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Tomas,

I saw these same errors setting up a TSM 5.2 server in an AIX environment
going to a STK 9310 using Gresham EDT software.  I could do queries but not
read/write to any tapes.  My problem was, after I defined the library I
needed to run the define path command;


define path tsmservername stklibraryname srctype=external desttype=library


externalmanager=/usr/lpp/dtelm/bin/elm

The externalmanager path will be different.  I hope this helps

John Henschell

-Original Message-
From: Toma? Hrouda Ing. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Restore DB problem
Hi all,

I have a problem with restore DB from external library STK9310 PowderHorn
managed by Gresham EDT on W2000 TSM server. This is restore of TSM server
on
the same machine with volume history file and devconfig file enabled. I did
it many times successfuly with other libraries (almost local SCSI
connected). I prepared DB and RL volumes the same size and location as
original by DSMSERV FORMAT command and try to do restore DB (DSMSERV
RESTORE
DB TODATE=date). This is important part of output:
ANR7800I DSMSERV generated at 09:17:48 on Nov  5 2002.

Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows
Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.2
:
:
5698-ISE (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999,2002. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
ANR8200I TCP/IP driver ready for connection with clients on port 1500.
ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 200 megabytes.
ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 1000 megabytes.
ANR4600I Processing volume history file volhist.out.
ANR4620I Database backup series 90 operation 0 device class STKINCCEAGLE.
ANR4622I   Volume 1: EH1143.
ANR4634I Starting point-in-time database restore to date 06/03/2003
15:00:00.
ANR0300I Recovery log format started; assigned capacity 200 megabytes.
ANRD asvolmnt.c(3214): ThreadId<12> Unknown result code (132) from
pvrOpen.
ANRD icstream.c(1631): ThreadId<12> Error 87 opening input stream.
ANRD icrest.c(2076): ThreadId<0> Rc=6 reading header record.
ANR2032E RESTORE DB: Command failed - internal server error detected.
Environment:
TSM server 5.1.5.2 on W2000, Gresham EDT controled library STK9310 with 6x
STK9840 FC drives, virtualized through SN/6000. I see all drives in system,
Gresham is running and working good (I can do mounts, query ..etc).
Do anybody have some idea what is the problem, or would I open PMR on IBM
support?
Many thanks

Tomas Hrouda
Storage Specialist
HTD s.r.o. Praha
CZECH REPUBLIC
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Re: anyone using ATA disk systems

2003-06-09 Thread Michael Peppers
Netapp is currently selling a SAN solution that utulizes ATA disk. They
are marketing this as either nearline storage or as an alternative to
tape. The array is a 12TB array with a cost approximating tape according
to their marketing collateral. Hope this helps.

Regards,

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Network Analyst
Sealy, Inc.
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select to compare filespace usage with backup storage used

2003-06-09 Thread Steve Bennett
TSMers,

I was thinking about trying to write a select that would let me compare
a clients known filespace usage (q file) with the amount of TSM backup
storage used by the client (q occ). Such a select could give us a %
number that we could use to estimate a clients storage needs before it
is actually registered and backed up. Of course the % would be highly
dependent upon policies, etc. but would be a good starting point for
clients using our standard policy set and management classes.

Not wanting to unnecessarily beat myself up, have any of you written
such a select and would you be willing to share your code and/or ideas?

--

Steve Bennett, (907) 465-5783
State of Alaska, Information Technology Group, Technical Services
Section


Move from Primary Pool Doesn't Remove from Copy Pool

2003-06-09 Thread Joshua Bassi
All,

My colleague issued a move data command from a primary stg pool to a new
primary stg pool.  He then backed up the new stg pool.  After this was
done, there were actually 3 copies of the data (1 in the new primary stg
pool, 1 in the new copy stg pool, and 1 in the original copy stg pool).

My questions is, how is it possible to remove the copy in the original
copy stg pool since we now have it in a new copy stg pool.  The move
data command will not work because you can only move data within a copy
stg pool and not into a new pool.

The only thing I was able to think of was to blow the data away and
re-back it up to the new primary stg pool.  Any help would be
appreciated.



--
Joshua S. Bassi
Tivoli Certified Consultant -ADSM/TSM
eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP
IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark
Cell (831) 595-3962


Gerd Becker/Emprise ist außer Haus und sehr wahrscheinlich nicht per eMail erreichbar.

2003-06-09 Thread Gerd Becker
Ich werde ab  10.06.2003 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am
12.06.2003.

Ich werde Ihre Nachricht nach meiner Rückkehr beantworten. In dringenden
Fällen bin ich über Handy erreichbar, ab 18:00 Uhr.

Total Storage Expert and TSM on AIX

2003-06-09 Thread Jorge Andrés Salinas Girodengo
Hi all

I'm going to need some data collection from a Total Storage Expert. I also have a TSM 
server (5.1.6.5) running on an AIX 4.3.3.11 but its not in total production. Do you 
know of some issues when instaling both products on the same machine?

I don't want to waste CPUs on the TS Expert. :)



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Dirección de Desarrollo Tecnológico
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Re: select to compare filespace usage with backup storage used

2003-06-09 Thread Mr. Lindsay Morris
Servergraph takes a hog_factor reading daily (along with other readings) -
for each client node, it's:
total GB used in all primary storage pools
divided by
total GB used on the client's hard disk

We get this from q filespace and q occ f=d (basically),
and then doing some crunching on the data.  Your query
might be simpler if you can use "q auditocc" - but we can't
depend on that, because some people may not run
the audit license command frequently enough to keep it
up-to-date.

It's always fascinating to see a new site's list of clients,
sorted by hog_factor, with one or two at the top in the hundreds -
i.e., the client uses a hundred times more space in TSM than it owns
locally.

Often this is due to unnecessary archiving, or TDP agent failing to
delete old backups.


-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
Lead Architect
www.servergraph.com
512-482-6138 ext 105

> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Steve Bennett
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: select to compare filespace usage with backup storage used
>
>
> TSMers,
>
> I was thinking about trying to write a select that would let me compare
> a clients known filespace usage (q file) with the amount of TSM backup
> storage used by the client (q occ). Such a select could give us a %
> number that we could use to estimate a clients storage needs before it
> is actually registered and backed up. Of course the % would be highly
> dependent upon policies, etc. but would be a good starting point for
> clients using our standard policy set and management classes.
>
> Not wanting to unnecessarily beat myself up, have any of you written
> such a select and would you be willing to share your code and/or ideas?
>
> --
>
> Steve Bennett, (907) 465-5783
> State of Alaska, Information Technology Group, Technical Services
> Section
>


Re: dsm.sys

2003-06-09 Thread Deon George
Mahesh,

Did you work this out?

Not knowing what file systems you have, you might need to use
virtualmountpoint instead of domain?

Domain looks after file system mount points - and specifies which file
systems will be used to look for files that are eligible for backup. So if
/var/opt/oracle is your mount point, then that is what your domain should
be.

If you want TSM to treat the other directories (that are not file systems
) as file systems, then you can use the virtual mount point option. (There
are performance benefits as well for using virtualmountpoint - only if the
each mount point is of a similar size, but I digress).

However, if each of the directories that you listed below are infact file
systems, then you are correct, it should not have considered
/var/opt/oracle in the back up - run dsmc i and review the first few
messages - it'll tell you which file systems it is going to process.

...deon
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/06/2003
12:59:00 AM:

> Hello, all!
>
> TSM Server: 5.1.6.4 on AIX 4.3.3.10
> TSM Client: 5.1.5.2 on HPUX B11.00
>
> I have the following in the dsm.opt:
>
> servernameTSM01
> memoryefficientbackup yes
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/tkcs1
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/arch
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/tkcs2
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/system
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/tkcs3
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/tkcs4
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/temp
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/tkcs5
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/redo
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/rbs
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/tools
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/control1
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/control2
> domain /var/opt/oracle/ata/control3
> domain /var/adm/oracle/ata
> domain /etc/opt/oracle/ata
> subdir yes
> quiet
>
> The following is in the dsm.sys:
>
> servernameTSM01
> COMMMethodTCPIP
> TCPPort1500
> TCPServeraddress  tsmbackup.carilion.com
> NODENAMEata
> TCPClientaddress  ata.carilion.com
> SCHEDMODE Prompted
> SCHEDLOGRETENTION 2
> MAXCMDRETRIES 3
> RETRYPERIOD 10
> PASSWORDACCESSgenerate
> SCHEDLOGNAME/var/adm/tivoli/tsm/log/dsmsched_ata.log
> SCHEDLOGRETENTION   2 D
> ERRORLOGNAME/var/adm/tivoli/tsm/log/error_ata.log
> ERRORLOGRETENTION7 D
> MAILPROG/usr/bin/mail root
> PASSWORDDIR /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/ata
> PRESCHEDULECMD  /etc/opt/oracle/ata/sbin/preata.sh
> POSTSCHEDULECMD /etc/opt/oracle/ata/sbin/postata.sh
>
> When the nightly backup completes it is reported that I am backing up
> between 45GB-65GB.  But, if when I look at the df -sk output on the
> client the total on the system is only 26GB.  I did a q files ata and in
> addition to filesystems listed in the domain statements above, I have a
> /var/opt/oracle filesystem [which is not in the list].
>
> Why I am getting /var/opt/oracle as a separate filesystem and, thus,
> backing up the same items twice?  I was under the impression that only
> the FS's/dir's listed via the domain statements will be backed up.  What
> am I missing?
>
> TIA
>
> Mahesh


Re: Move from Primary Pool Doesn't Remove from Copy Pool

2003-06-09 Thread Shannon Bach

After giving it some thought, I figure you have two choices.  

1.  If your OLD Copypool is sequential then you could sort by the oldest written date and move the data from each cartridge to the NEW Copypool.  That way, data that should be expired, would be once it was with the rest of the copypool data.  This will take awhile but it should work, though I may be wrong.  You have to be careful with data in OLD Copypools because the data could belong to an old node that while it may no longer be in use, there are still file spaces associated with it that may needed to be restored at some time.  Your new Copypool may not have the same data in it, especially if it's from a retired node. 

2.  Make sure the properties of the OLD Copypool (storagepool itself) is updated to unavailable and just let the data expire on it's own until it is empty.  The data in the Old copypool can still be associated with management classes that the New Copypool knows nothing about.  

I may be wrong and there is a simple answer.  Maybe one of the experts in the list may know of an easier way.  

Shannon 
Madison Gas & Electric
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Move from Primary Pool Doesn't Remove from Copy Pool

2003-06-09 Thread Curtis Stewart
Once you are sure the data has all been copied to a new copy storage
pool, why not just delete the volumes in the copy storage pool you want
to get rid of? This shouldn't do anything to your primary pool, or your
new copy pool.
Curtis Stewart

Shannon Bach wrote:

After giving it some thought, I figure you have two choices.

1.  If your OLD Copypool is sequential then you could sort by the
oldest written date and move the data from each cartridge to the NEW
Copypool.  That way, data that should be expired, would be once it was
with the rest of the copypool data.  This will take awhile but it
should work, though I may be wrong.  You have to be careful with data
in OLD Copypools because the data could belong to an old node that
while it may no longer be in use, there are still file spaces
associated with it that may needed to be restored at some time.  Your
new Copypool may not have the same data in it, especially if it's from
a retired node.
2.  Make sure the properties of the OLD Copypool (storagepool itself)
is updated to unavailable and just let the data expire on it's own
until it is empty.  The data in the Old copypool can still be
associated with management classes that the New Copypool knows nothing
about.
I may be wrong and there is a simple answer.  Maybe one of the experts
in the list may know of an easier way.
Shannon
Madison Gas & Electric
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: changing weekday to sunday - friday

2003-06-09 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: Eddie Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Hello gang.  Is it possible int tsm to change weekday in 
> schedules to be
> sunday - friday instead of monday through friday.  I want to run my
> schedules everyday except saturday.  If I can't change this, 
> is there an easy way to set this up?

Sure. Run two schedules--weekdays and Sunday.
 
--
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Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627


Re: Move from Primary Pool Doesn't Remove from Copy Pool

2003-06-09 Thread Joshua Bassi
< why not just delete the volumes in the copy storage pool you want to
get rid of?

Because the data isn't collocated.  If my customer was on 5.2 I could
collocate the specific node in question and then delete it, but I'm not
at that level.

Thanks anyway!


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Tivoli Certified Consultant -ADSM/TSM
eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP
IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark
Cell (831) 595-3962

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Curtis Stewart
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Move from Primary Pool Doesn't Remove from Copy Pool


Once you are sure the data has all been copied to a new copy storage
pool, why not just delete the volumes in the copy storage pool you want
to get rid of? This shouldn't do anything to your primary pool, or your
new copy pool.

Curtis Stewart

Shannon Bach wrote:

>
> After giving it some thought, I figure you have two choices.
>
> 1.  If your OLD Copypool is sequential then you could sort by the
> oldest written date and move the data from each cartridge to the NEW
> Copypool.  That way, data that should be expired, would be once it was

> with the rest of the copypool data.  This will take awhile but it
> should work, though I may be wrong.  You have to be careful with data
> in OLD Copypools because the data could belong to an old node that
> while it may no longer be in use, there are still file spaces
> associated with it that may needed to be restored at some time.  Your
> new Copypool may not have the same data in it, especially if it's from

> a retired node.
>
> 2.  Make sure the properties of the OLD Copypool (storagepool itself)
> is updated to unavailable and just let the data expire on it's own
> until it is empty.  The data in the Old copypool can still be
> associated with management classes that the New Copypool knows nothing

> about.
>
> I may be wrong and there is a simple answer.  Maybe one of the experts

> in the list may know of an easier way.
>
> Shannon
> Madison Gas & Electric
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Total Storage Expert and TSM on AIX

2003-06-09 Thread Steve Harris
TSE coexists happiliy with TSM.  However being written in java it is a resource and 
memory hog.  Don't use it on the same machine as TSM if you are short on memory.  Make 
sure TSE report generation doesn't run at the same time as something in TSM that needs 
lots of CPU.

Regards

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia



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Hi all

I'm going to need some data collection from a Total Storage Expert. I also have a TSM 
server (5.1.6.5) running on an AIX 4.3.3.11 but its not in total production. Do you 
know of some issues when instaling both products on the same machine?

I don't want to waste CPUs on the TS Expert. :)



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ITESM - Vicerrectoría de Tecnologías de Información
Dirección de Desarrollo Tecnológico
Departamento de Almacenamiento de Información
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Re: anyone using ATA disk systems

2003-06-09 Thread Christo Heuer
Hi John,

There is currently an alternative to bypass the limitation/issues
Andrew brought up...

A company with the name of Dilligent software uses a prodcuct called
copycross which has a good approach to the problems with a very
large disk pool in TSM as a replacement for tape:
They basically simulate a DLT tape library with a Linux server - then you
just define the library to TSM - and send your data to it.
This solution will then write the data to Virtual drives/tapes - plus
you can define as many virtual drives as you require. The only issue
is the fact that it currently only works with EMC Symmetrix/Clariion disk
subsystems, but what makes it good is the fact that you can make use of
the replication facilities/srdf of the EMC boxes. So, you end up either
using
TSM's tape copy functionality for DR or you just let the EMC box mirror the
virtual tape data to another site...
This solution keeps the tapeness of the data without the drawbacks of
tape. Slow/unreliable etc
Cheers
Christo
--
Mr. Raibeck,
  I appreciate your feedback and, being involved in IT for some 30 years, I
understand the technical challenges involved. That is why I posted the
question. With the falling cost of disk architecture, a disk to disk backup
alternative seems to be coming close to rivaling disk to tape as a backup
alternative. Especially when dealing with some of the more sophisticated
tape solutions that involve the mainframe/zArchitecture.
  If I size my TSM solution such that I can recover 'x' number of
application servers in a given number of hours, then I will require a
certain number of tape drives based on the data transfer rate of each tape
drive.  Hence, any recovery process in DR mode is limited to the number of
tape drives available. Ouch!!! With disk to disk, my limitation is the TSM
server and the network.
  Add to the mix the fact that tape data transfer speeds are less than SCSI
and/or ATA data transfer speeds and the thought is that with capacity of
disk architectures increasing rapidly and the price currently lower than
tape, it makes sense to back up everything to disk!!! Faster and lower cost!
So, I/we would appreciate IBM Tivoli's support of this concept.
  With all the pressure on budgets and all these jobs NAFTAing, I MUST
arrive at the best solution! Thanks for your consideration.

John G. Talafous  IS Technical Principal
The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support
P.O. Box 6927 Data Management
1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390
Canton, Ohio USA  44706-0927  Fax  : (330)-471-4034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.timken.com


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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: anyone using ATA disk systems


Addendum: I as I said earlier, we continue to study the matter. Possible
outcomes include enhancements that will enable TSM to function better in
an all disk storage pool environment, although we make no commitments at
this time.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.




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We have not done a lot of testing on this, so this can not be taken as a
definitive statement. With that said, the following sums up our current
thoughts on this:

- Because there is no reclamation for random access storage pools, (a)
disk fragmentation is definitely a concern, and (b) aggregates are not
rebuilt, so as objects within an aggregate expire, that space is not freed
up until all objects in the aggregate have expired. This can cause
inefficient utilization of the disk space over time.

- FILE device classes could be used, but represent configuration and
performance concerns.

- While such an environment is technically possible, it is not the
intended TSM usage model, and we do not recommend it at this time.

- We continue to study this issue.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.


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