[9fans] Can you pass the Advanced Namespace Test?

2013-03-16 Thread vvs009
>I became so possessed with determination to make ANTS the best Plan 9
>software release I possibly could that it was pretty much impossible
>to sleep.

This will exhaust you very quickly. The best way to deal with it is to spread
your efforts between multiple projects, so that you would get some response
sooner.

>Well, ANTS is "radical hippie anti-authoritarian communist data
>sharing software" which tries to overthrow the authority of a central
>root filesystem and let every process have a different, Totally Groovy
>Namespace,

Then you have debunked some myths about Plan 9. I think you'll be interested
to read this: 
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/community/weblogs/antrik/plan9-and-the-hurd-major-differences.html

>ANTS is my attempt to make the most free-form, liberated, no-rules
>form of Plan 9 that I could.

I believe this is a viable goal. But any ideas need time to be accepted by the
general public. Pushing hard won't help much, just give it enough time
to settle.

BTW if you'd put your Mercurial repository on e.g. Google code it'll make access
and collaboration easier. This note is directed to all 9fans as well.



[9fans] ANTS: Better in every single way than standard plan 9. Stop using p9p.

2013-03-16 Thread vvs009
>THEN TELL ME ANTS SUCKS
>
>THEN I PAYPAL YOU FIFTY BUCKS

I don't think that ANTS sucks. On the contrary, it seems very useful to me.
Usually, one of a hundred will share their opinion. So, you have at
least 99 people
who think that it's great but won't bother to tell.

And who needs money anyway :)



Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
> All this tells us is that wealth doesn't cure clinical depression.

I wasn't aware that he was suffering from it. Any evidence?



Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
> http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/verysick
>
> Glad you're looking into this.  Let me know what you find out.

Being sick and feeling depressed because of it isn't considered as
"clinical". There should be better evidence than that. And it misses a
point: there is no evidence, that if there weren't unsubstantiated
criminal charges involved, it would happen at all.

> The government killed him.

Well, there is such thing as "negligent homicide". So, in that sense, yes.



Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
> Your argument is unfalsifiable. There is no evidence that if it hadn't
> happened, it wouldn't have happened at all, other than the fact he
> hadn't killed himself before he killed himself.

You are right of course. And you should note, that the opposite is
unfalsifiable also. But the scientific method is unapplicable here
because we will never know for sure anyway.

> It is also reductio ad absurdum. Plenty of people are charged for
> crimes they did not commit (and he was not innocent), and they do not
> kill themselves.

Yes, that is true also. But I didn't argue that there is substantial
evidence that it was the cause. I just saying that in my "opinion"
they bear the "moral" responsibility for his death. Nobody is going to
push charges against them in court on these grounds.

> He broke laws. Was the case against him absurd? Sure. Was the sought
> after punishment way harsher than the crime? I think so.

I agree with that part.

> Does that
> make anyone other than him responsible for him killing himself? No.

I strongly disagree here. They abused their authority and broke public
trust which might resulted in loss of life. Are you trying to say that
nobody should be held responsible for the consequences of their
actions? And they were advised that it could cause harm to his health,
but chose not to act responsibly. If that's not enough for you, that's
enough for me.

> since when is this antsfans@ant...

You are right and it's off-topic. But I didn't started it and if you
chose to publicly argue with what I said before then I have the right
to respond to your criticism, don't I? Or is it a one way avenue?



Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
> So your thesis here is that mycroft may kill himself if someone files
> criminal charges against him for using plan 9?

That's nonsense. It was meant as an example of someone who ruined his
life by engaging in unwise activities. Sapienti sat.

> It's refreshing to be reminded that even 9fans is a part of the
> internet, where people talk about shit they don't fully understand.
> Thanks for your valuable insight.

You're welcome. This list is sure full of politeness and kindness. Not
that I care of course, but it's revealing.



Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
> Whatever magic you used to do that,
> please stop it, it's giving us the creeps.

I think I figured that one out. It's a humane attitude, which is
lacking on this list. People are not computers, they need to put their
personal insight into discussion to keep them as a community. May be
that's the main problem for Plan 9.



Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
> Thank god, after all these years, someone finally figured out The Main
> Problem For Plan 9.  Now, at last, we can begin the healing process.

You overacting and it's unconvincing. But keep trying, next time it
could be better :)



Re: [9fans] John Floren, Im trying to make the world better

2013-03-18 Thread vvs009
> I can't handle this criticism.  Are you attempting to commit negligent
> homicide?

No, no. Suicide, I presume? Don't count on it. But I'm relieving you
from any responsibility, just in case.