Re: [9fans] r-pi usbotg error

[sstallion]

>> oh, and remember that a *powered* hub is pretty much essential.
> 
> Just for the record, I use a classic IBM clicky Model M with a ps2/usb
> adapter, and a very cheap generic chinese usb keyboard, both problem
> free without any external hub.
> 
> Patch /n/sources/patch/maybe/usb-short-desc makes a lot more keyboards
> work (especially some with hubs).

Unfortunately I didn't see any change with usb-short-desc applied, though 
switching to the Lenovo did the trick. I'm very happy with how the new terminal 
is shaping up so far.

Thanks!

Steve

Re: [9fans] r-pi usbotg error

[sstallion]

>> 
>> I had attempted to use a Sun Type 7 and an Apple wired (full size)
>> keyboard. Both have hubs builtin.
> 
> the apple wired keyboard comes in several flavors.  do you mean the slim on
> or the thick one?  i think there's a code on the back.
> 
> the thick one has trouble.  i should go back and look at that.  i think i 
> posted
> some of my issues to 9fans last year.

This was the newer (thin) model. I picked up about a year ago.

Steve

Re: [9fans] upgrading the 9legacy shell (was: Gmail vs Upas)

[sstallion]

> seriously, i hear only complaints here, meanwhile 9front is doing just
> fine. you are deciding against it for non-technical reasons (or
> probably misunderstandings).

I have no interest in using 9front for both technical and
non-technical reasons.

The "community" is atrocious; anyone willing to turn a blind eye
toward bad behavior due to technical merit is sophomoric if not
abusive.  ISTR calling this "elitist fuckery" in the past, I still
stand by that.

Second, the gatekeeping that was done while the labs was still active
was tough, but usually fair.  Geoff did a nice job of keeping the
spirit of plan9 alive and often rejected larger changes that could
have upset the balance.  David's work on 9legacy also follows the same
spirit; it's a patch queue that pulls from a number of different
sources but strives to keep the original spirit intact.  I struggle to
see the same mindset held by 9front.

That said, there is work being done outside of 9front.  It's not as
public or as polarizing, but there are still people hacking away.

Steve


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