Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-04 Thread Rox 64
>
> I have that same netbook. One of your big challenges will probably be
>
getting the CDROM to boot in a machine without a CDROM drive. There
> exist bootable images for USB sticks which contain a full fossil
> filesystem; you can start the installation from there. In fact, I had
> made a 32-bit bootable USB stick for Nix about a year ago and included
> a script to start the installation, I'll see if I can find it.
>

I see. Thank you guys, been waiting to try Plan 9 since a while, but I
though my hardware was incapable of booting and running it. In fact I
wanted to buy a Raspberry Pi to install Miller's build... Although I will
get sooner or later a Rpi haha.

What file system do I need to install Plan 9? Fat32? NTFS? Ext2/3/4?


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-04 Thread Rox 64
Yeah, my error was to assume I needed to make an special filesystem to boot
and install Plan 9 from a USB device... Nevermind.

Thank you for the help guys, I'm going to try David's build. Wish me luck!


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-05 Thread Rox 64
Hi. I have tried David's build. I copied it to an USB with ''dd if=[.img
file] of=/dev/sdb bs=1M" and it boots. It detects the CPU and I can see
something like "boot into real mode". Then nothing happens. The LED of my
USB also does not indicate disk activity too.

What can I do now?


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-05 Thread Rox 64
Ah, nevermind, I have seen that rc script, I was very stupid thinking I
could do the same thing you can do with Miller's SD image for the
Rpi. Please forgive my stupidity and (serious) brain damage.


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-05 Thread Rox 64
Maybe should I try 9front instead? I read they made a new bootloader to fix
that issue.


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-05 Thread Rox 64
I don't really want to deal with ELF binaries and Grub...
I will try 9front and if its bootloader works then I will use it against
vanilla Plan 9.


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-05 Thread Rox 64
Ah, sorry then if my previous message sounded somehow violent.
My idea is to install and run Plan 9 on a USB a few days, then copy the
disk image onto the HDD when I will be comfortable with it, so what I want
is to be able to boot from USB every time I plug it without relying on
external software such as GRUB and with hardcoded options.
But if I will take your suggestion if any other option fails =)


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-05 Thread Rox 64
Sorry, I have another question here. I have browsed the wiki, the mailing
list and I have googled it a lot but I'm still not sure.

9front's wiki says that in order to make a Live USB you need to copy a
compiled Plan 9 kernel in a  '/386' folder. From what I have seen there's
two available 386 kernels in 9front: 9pcf and 9pccpuf. If I'm correct, 9pcf
is the standard kernel and 9pccpuf is for configuring a standalone CPU
server, right?


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-06 Thread Rox 64
I see.

9front's booloader works flawlessly. It's a little annoying to write
local!/shr/sdU7.0/tmp/9front.iso at the command prompt everytime, but at
least it runs. The only problem (aside of using the US QWERTY layout, I'm
spanish) is that it cannot run rio (it says something like 'cannot open
/dev/draw/new: no frame buffer', I will investigate why it is happening).
But now I can use 9front, and I'm happy with that. Now I will try running
Plan 9 with 9front's FAT-based bootloader and see what happens.

Thank you for all the help, guys.


Re: [9fans] 9atom

2013-01-06 Thread Rox 64
It seems I don't need aux/realemu and aux/vga at all to boot rio, it can
run with monitor=vesa and vgasize=640x480x8 in plan9.ini. I still haven't
found out how to run in 1024x738 with vesa, through, will check if it can
run at least at 800x600 with the vga command as you said.

BTW, there are two things I have detected in Plan 9 that I love: the
ability to copy and delete text in rio like if it were a simple file (much
like the rest of Plan 9) and no CapsLock support (why other operating
systems still support CapsLock? Seriously, it should die).


Re: [9fans] fortune nomination

2013-01-31 Thread Rox 64
I don't see the problem. If I wanted to implement human beings, physical
laws, an universe and an operating system inside a missing text editor
inside a Lisp interpreter on a C compiler I'm pretty sure I would add 1200
options.


Re: [9fans] fortune nomination

2013-01-31 Thread Rox 64
>
> "To compile C, you must first invent the universe."
>

Is the universe free as in the GNU General Multiverse License?


Re: [9fans] fortune nomination

2013-01-31 Thread Rox 64
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:39 PM,  wrote:

> Ah! I think I know why compile binaries with gcc are so slow. Because
> they first found the answer: GNU Public Licence. Then they said: here is
> the answer! Uh! THAT??? But answer to what? Hence now gcc embeds code to
> find the question the GPL is the answer for.


I'm not sure if I should take it as a joke. You can never know what's going
to be the next move of our saviors the Fat Software Foundation.