Re: [9fans] Inferno wiki
2009/6/6 Venkatesh Srinivas : > I've brought up a wiki for Inferno, at http://inferno.makesad.us > (tcp!inferno.makesad.us!wiki for Acme users). Its running wikifs on > Inferno, appropriately enough. Nice to see it even seems to have some version control or history at the very least unlike the non-wikis that have been around before. Looks like it's still more of a published shared document instead of a wiki in that there's no editing from the http side. I can't spot RecentChanges type page, though. Is there one so you could keep an eye on what's new? http://inferno.makesad.us/wiki/about.html (About the server) also seems to lead to 404. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] ugly eqn/troff result
2009/8/27 Rudolf Sykora : > One more trial... > Really nobody uses 'eqn' these days?... I do or have occasionally. No idea about the problem but those mystery problems, version differences and no progress sadly make it really hard to seriously use roff. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] omap3 notebook
On 12 March 2010 07:17, ron minnich wrote: > http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/ > $400 but it has a long backlog it seems. There's also the Nokia's NIT devices if you're looking for pocketable. Might be a relatively hostile environment for anything but Maemo, though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Tablet -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] VIA Rhine II support?
On 24 March 2010 12:24, Federico G. Benavento wrote: > the drivers are in /sys/src/9/pc, ethervt6102.c and ethervt6105m.c > check the device ID on those to see if they match yours, if they don't > it might be an easy fix or a hard fix... > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:50 AM, EBo wrote: >> Searching the net reveled that Stephan got his VIA Rhine II ethernet working >> a >> couple of years ago. Where can I find the patch or drivers? As with other things Via, I'd recommend avoiding Rhine chips like the plague. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?
On 19 Nov 2014 23:54, "Tom Ivar Helbekkmo" wrote: > Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> writes: > > > After a bit less than a year, the SD card suffered a catastrophic > > failure. When I say catastrophic, I mean I can't find any meaningful > > data anywhere in the first 120MB or so of /dev/sdM0/data ... just > > not-quite-random looking garbage. > > Could have been just the normal "SD card used up" situation. They don't > last forever, and to get a reasonable life time you have to a) not buy > too cheap, and b) not write to it more than you have to. Under Unix, > point b means mounting with noatime and nodiratime options. > > Some specifics here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_leveling Raspi in particular also seems to be very sensitive to power quality. Often the symptom of overloaded power supply is a crash and an unbootable SD card. Frequent backups of the card are probably a good idea in any case.
Re: [9fans] Plan 9 article in hacker magazine!
On 29 May 2016 at 10:54, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > What is a hacker magazine? > You forgot to attach the article. A thing that 2600 especially isn't. > On 5/28/16, Roswell Grey wrote: >> 2600 is a hacker's quarterly magazine that specializes in sharing subtle >> tips and tricks related to computer hacking. Volume 33, issue 1, however, >> featured something that was pleasent to read: an article on Plan 9. It >> describes what it is, how it came to be, how it differs from other OS's, >> and how to get it. It's a basic introduction to 9 that most of us already >> know about, but nonetheless I wanted to share it with you all to show that >> there's still a very strong interest in the OS. And with this article, >> perhaps it'll gain a little more! Thanks for reading. Definitely pick up a >> copy of 2600 if you have the chance! -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] The correct way to do an incorrect thing
I thought it would be to make an XML file describing red and yellow polkadot that is compiled in to the source because research says that is the the background that most increases productivity. If anyone wants to change it they're free to go edit the code and rebuild. On 29 September 2016 at 10:48, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > no, the plan 9 way is to apply for a grant first, that would support > such endeavor > > On 9/29/16, Erik Quanstrom wrote: >> a plan 9 thing would be to use /usr/$user/lib/acmebg and call it a day. >> >> >> On Sep 28, 2016 4:07 PM, Marshall Conover wrote: >>> >>> As an awful person, I hacked rio's data.c to support backgrounds. Because >>> the default code took a 1-by-1 pixel grey image and tiled it, I just >>> shoved a line in there to load an image file instead using readimage(). >>> (Hacked really is the appropriate word here.) >>> >>> My question is, would the plan9 approach to this (assuming this were a >>> plan 9 thing to do in the first place) be to add a command line argument >>> to rio that lets the user specify a file, or would it be to present some >>> file somewhere the user can write a background to? E.g., `cat >>> /usr/glenda/backgrounds/bg.bit > /rio/bg`. >>> >>> If there are any papers or man pages that'd be good to read for this >>> question, I'd appreciate a finger in that direction. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] Purism laptops
On 12 November 2016 at 21:22, James A. Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 8:19 AM, > Andrés Domínguez wrote: >> Do they really make open hardware? In what aspect >> is their hardware more open than any other laptop? > > A summary would bet hat typically the hardware > drivers that are run on a computer come in two possible > forms, either closed source or open source. https://puri.sm/learn/blobs/ Indeed, blobs seems to be one point. Another thing seems to be that they advertise that these laptops have no hidden features or remote control. How they could claim to guarantee this and how a customer could possibly believe them, I don't know. Having hardware kill switches is also nice, but guarantees that they truly stop any access to camera, mic, or whatnot might be hard to make. Trust or no trust, they might be offering some desirable hardware there. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:14:38PM -0400, Tom Lieber wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff > > (incl. 9P+synthentic filesystems on other OS'es). > > Maybe anyone interested ? > I would read it. Depends entirely on the format and content. It could be exactly the thing plan9 "needs" or it could be completely useless. Where would you get the content? -- On the sixth day, God created the platypus. And God said: let's see the evolutionists try and figure this one out.
Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:46:21AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:14:38PM -0400, Tom Lieber wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff > >> > (incl. 9P+synthentic filesystems on other OS'es). > >> > Maybe anyone interested ? > >> I would read it. > > Depends entirely on the format and content. It could be exactly the > > thing plan9 "needs" or it could be completely useless. > My concern with "ezines" is always that they don't have much to offer > that you can't get through incremental updates to a blog. So, 9planet? :) -- If xawtv dumps core, you can fix this with "ulimit -c 0".
Re: [9fans] dc(1) questions
On 15/04/2008, Anthony Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. Is it wrong to love bc(1) for being a compiler? ;) In my opinion, absolutely not. I wish more software was. <3 -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] VIA Rhine II mii problems
On 19/04/2008, Stefan Hajnoczi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I initialised the mii struct to use phy 1, as mii() would have if it > had succeeded. Unfortunately running ip/ipconfig simply sat there, > running it with the debug flag showed recv timeouts. I could not see > any packets on the network. On the slight chance that this is useful, I have never seen a VIA chip that worked reliably (never tried their processors, though). Especially the Rhine based pci cards my then employer once had would periodically freeze and require a full power cycle before they'd work for a while again if at all. This happened under several windows versions on PC, Linux, possibly some BSD. Varied drivers and other hardware anyway. We quickly decided it wasn't worth even trying and went with another chip since eth cards aren't hugely expensive. Finns can also cheerfully call anything with a VIA chip "viallinen", which literally meens "something with via" while being a word meaning "defective". It's pretty much true on both counts. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] I finally fixed venti
On 28/04/2008, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:37 AM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [9fans] I finally fixed venti > > No, you finally fixed QEMU. > less i think, since neither were broken. operator error. Fixed the particular instance of qemu perhaps. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] Flash
2008/2/10 Richard Uhtenwoldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Paul Lalonde writes: > >If time is the constraint, then just uninstall all your web browsers > If I did that, I would indeed waste less time, but I would also > have to forgo great benefits that I now enjoy. In contrast, I > derived almost no benefit from Flash web pages. I occasionally do. Particularly since flash video is so popular all around. Given the miserable "support" for any other type of video distribution, in many cases I can see why flash players are used so much. A lot of grief can be avoided by installing a flash block extension (at least FF allows that) to add another feature that should have been there in the first place. Then you get buttons instead of flash elements that you can click to start flash only for those elements you want to. Terrible and ugly, yes. But it works with what there is. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] space glenda - in acrylic
2008/6/29 Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Perhaps some glenda stickers too... I am sure there is enough artwork > to have some nice "merchandise" Flickr will pass pictures to moo.com so anyone could order their own pretty easily. Unless there's some permission things in place. I don't know if you can prepare a set and let other people order it. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] a question of file and the history of magic
- Original message - > There are a lot of things like that. Do we still need to > compress man pages on 1TB disk driver? :) I actually happened to be reading this on a small device that has a compressed system fs. Compressing data here on the "app" side with uninformed algorithms is discouraged to avoid double compression and other assorted losses. I believe you hit the same things with compression on some network protocols. Touching GB range, this isn't that tiny but well below TB. :)
Re: [9fans] Fifth Edition
On 20 October 2010 11:44, Mark Tuson wrote: > On Oct 19, 7:06Â pm, 23h...@googlemail.com (hiro) wrote: >> If this is peace I will not soon all of you to blow the whistle on the ss, >> also why do you all secretly in the basement with the white rabbit >> contagious! It is FORBIDDEN and a shame for my country! > What the hell is this, bad poetry? Sounds more like the semirandom generated/quoted garbage that spammers use to probe email addresses. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it
On 15 June 2011 21:16, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > is not better than the keyboard for other commands. The study from > 1989 is basically based around the claim that it "takes two seconds to > decide upon which special-function key to press." I'm sorry, does > anyone truly believe that it takes a user two seconds to hit a common > shortcut like Ctrl-S or Ctrl-C? That's ridiculous; it may take two > seconds *until* it becomes muscle memory, which is the whole point of > keyboarding: it becomes muscle memory, whereas the mouse does not. It is ridiculous. And I never think what keys I hit. I think "browser, messages, back to image editing" without even forming words and the desktops change, the flicker being just slow enough to see if any screen has changed. I think "change two words to xxx yyy" and the words change. If you asked me what keys did that, then I'd actually have to think about it. And it seems to even work if I'm stuck in an alien OS. E.g. alien browser shortcuts like ^T ^W ^C ^V also just happen. I might have to think what the shortcuts are for a CAD program I rarely use. It's just like playing a musical instrument; the fingers know their way through things you've just learned and things you didn't even know you remembered alike, but you may have no idea what the actual notes are any more. It's a choice between having a language the machine understands and having RSI-inducing dragging around of a brick.
Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it
On 17 June 2011 19:54, Bakul Shah wrote: > I am all for more intuitive HCI design but frankly, if the small speed > difference either way in mousing vs typing saves you enough time to make it > worth retraining your brain and fingers, you are spending way too much time > in front of the puter and have already shortened your life by more than you > will save by any optimal use of mousing/keyboarding! Some of us have to spend our working hours in front of a computer and once the interface stops sucking your attention and causing pain, you can concentrate on the data in front of you instead of wasting your time thinking about the computer or operating system quirks. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] the awesomeness of year 2011
On 25 June 2011 19:25, dexen deVries wrote: >> (...) I never use more than 800Mb of RAM. I am running Linux, a browser >> and a terminal. > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2692529 More generally, "I'm running a browser, it only uses 50-150% of the RAM I have". -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] Mini PCs
On 12 June 2012 16:29, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On 6/12/12, Nick LaForge wrote: >> Sure. But the Sheevaplug (same SoC) is now 3 years old, and it looks >> like the whole 'plug-computer' thing never took off. Since phones > > mhm, kirkwood right? I think the dockstars and it's competition on the > "small home server" market pretty much did take off. Here's another Kirkwood box with GbE that can run Linux apparently: http://zyxel.nas-central.org/wiki/Category:NSA-310 http://forum.nas-central.org/viewtopic.php?f=249&t=5145 http://www.zyxel.com/products_services/nsa310.shtml (I noticed because it was for sale here for less than the price of the disk alone.) -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
Re: [9fans] 9pi + apple keyboard
On 22 January 2013 19:06, erik quanstrom wrote: > > I've seen similar things with my apple keyboard on plan9 with > > the pi (as well as the failure you noted earlier). the pi is *very* > > picky about power. > USB power management is pretty smart in its way, but can do odd things. And what different devices do seems to vary. I've tested a wireless dongle that works in a hub (no extra power) connected to the pi, but won't even detect when plugged in directly. sort of sad when the keyboard uses more power than the computer. > > Coming from the embedded side of things, it seems natural to me that the electromechanical bits tend to eat most of the power budget. I have several things where a burning indicator LED would more than double the overall power consumption. On the other hand, good old raw LCD's basically take nothing. You can run a pocket calculator on a thumbprint's worth of old solar panel in room light. I always found that kind of amazing. A desktop keyboard shouldn't be that demanding, though. Saving power just probably hasn't been a priority in the design. -- I appear to be temporarily using gmail's horrible interface. I apologise for any failure in my part in trying to make it do the right thing with post formatting.
