Re: [9fans] along the way...

2019-12-06 Thread hiro
is it worth using vfp when neon is around?
just curious...

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Re: [9fans] along the way...

2019-12-06 Thread Richard Miller
> is it worth using vfp when neon is around?

Plan 9 arm source uses "vfp" as a generic term to mean modern
hardware floating point instruction set (as opposed to the old
arm7500 instruction set, which I suspect has always been purely
emulated since processors implementing this set were quite rare).
No use has been made in Plan 9 (as far as I know) of the vector
extensions which are the "v" part of vfp.

I think the neon instruction set is a superset of the vfp set
which 5l generates, so using vfp doesn't preclude something
like a vector library with neon support.


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Re: [9fans] along the way...

2019-12-06 Thread hiro
yeah, that's what i mean. i was worried it wouldn't be a subset of
neon: i.e. that they might keep neon and get rid of vfp at some
point...

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[9fans] /mail/lib/rewrite and net!$smtp

2019-12-06 Thread Steven Stallion
All,

I was reviewing my mail setup this evening and I came across an old
kludge to forward mail to a relay host on my network in
/mail/lib/rewrite.  I used a host-specific dial string rather than
net!$smtp.  For kicks, I reverted back to the classic behavior to try
and sort out why the lookup fails and I'm hitting a brick wall
(again).

I've try adding smtp= entries to the sys, ipnet, and dom entries in
/lib/ndb/local and nothing seems to be taking.  I'm testing changes by
issuing an ndb/csquery and I'm always getting the same result:

% ndb/csquery /net/cs 'net!$smtp!smtp'
translating net!$smtp!smtp: cs: can't translate address: dns: name does 
not exist

I haven't found much other than a thread dating back to 2013 from fgb,
which appears related but doesn't seem to have a solution that works
for me.

Any ideas?
Steve


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Re: [9fans] /mail/lib/rewrite and net!$smtp

2019-12-06 Thread Alex Musolino
What about:

% ndb/csquery /net/cs 'net!$smtp!25'

Or even:

% ndb/csquery /net/cs 'tcp!$smtp!25'

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[9fans] Re: /mail/lib/rewrite and net!$smtp

2019-12-06 Thread Steven Stallion
> I haven't found much other than a thread dating back to 2013  from fgb,
> which appears related but doesn't seem to have a solution that works
> for me.

Apologies, this was a thread from 2007 though fgb was not the original
poster.

After digging a little more based on one of steve's suggestions in the
thread to run upas/smtp with -d, I think this makes much more sense
now:

% upas/smtp -d 'net!$smtp' stallion f...@bar.com
expanding /net!$smtp
sending /net/dns 'x.x.x.x mx'
dns: dns: name does not exist
mxlookup returns nothing
smtp: cs: can't translate address: dns: name does not exist (net!$smtp)

So it looks like upas will attempt to do an mx lookup for smtp; which
means it's expecting a domain rather than the dial string of an SMTP
server.

After digging into the source a bit, it looks like mkdial in
/sys/src/cmd/upas/smtp/mkdial.c is to blame; it also looks like it's
not possible to specify a port number, which makes sense given that
its relying on an mx lookup.

I suppose in the end the kludge I added was the right solution after
all.  Go figure.

Steve


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Re: [9fans] /mail/lib/rewrite and net!$smtp

2019-12-06 Thread kvik
I'd start by making sure $smtp is expanded
from the environment or the ndb at all.
The error message:

translating net!$smtp!smtp:

seems to suggest it isn't.

Try poking the ndb directly, like so:

ndb/query ipnet 9front smtp

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