Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 02:32:53PM +0800, 刘宇宝 wrote: > > I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on > macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is also automatically provisioned, free of charge. khm
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Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
>> I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >> > > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. > To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is > also automatically provisioned, free of charge. Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D Maybe I already got the answer @_@ Thanks, Yubao Liu
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
in sam you can type u in the command window for undo.
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
rio has no knowledge of the past, you cannot undo there, though i agree this can create problems for people coming from other platforms that lack the ability to edit former output and not just the prompt.
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
hi. i think it is humour of a kind. i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is not possible. you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the current windows id) -Steve On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 wrote: >>> I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >>> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >>> >> >> Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. >> To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is >> also automatically provisioned, free of charge. > > Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of > http://fqa.9front.org/ ? > > I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, > I'm seriously asking :-D > > Maybe I already got the answer @_@ > > Thanks, > Yubao Liu
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
I often messed the output of previous command by accident, either by typing or mouse chords to cut or paste, then I can't copy original text :-( ACME focuses the window under mouse cusor by default, I also often wrongly edit the tag line... Indeed need some time to get used to it. > On May 9, 2018, at 7:45 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > rio has no knowledge of the past, you cannot undo there, though i > agree this can create problems for people coming from other platforms > that lack the ability to edit former output and not just the prompt. >
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. > On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon wrote: > > hi. > > i think it is humour of a kind. > > i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is > not possible. > > you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text > /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the > current windows id) > > -Steve > > > On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 wrote: > I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >>> >>> Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. >>> To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is >>> also automatically provisioned, free of charge. >> >> Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of >> http://fqa.9front.org/ ? >> >> I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days >> ago, I'm seriously asking :-D >> >> Maybe I already got the answer @_@ >> >> Thanks, >> Yubao Liu > >
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
There’s a ‘win’ command you can executed in acme to get an interactive rc shell window. > On May 9, 2018, at 11:40 AM, 刘宇宝 wrote: > > Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The > prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous > command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D > > I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with > /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and > leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. > >> On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon wrote: >> >> hi. >> >> i think it is humour of a kind. >> >> i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is >> not possible. >> >> you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text >> /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the >> current windows id) >> >> -Steve >> >> >> On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 wrote: >> > I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on > macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is also automatically provisioned, free of charge. >>> >>> Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of >>> http://fqa.9front.org/ ? >>> >>> I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days >>> ago, I'm seriously asking :-D >>> >>> Maybe I already got the answer @_@ >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Yubao Liu >> >> >
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
Even if you are not in a `win` window (eg. if you are in an +Error one) you can use Undo. Sometimes Acme doesn't actually put Undo in the tag line, but if you type it out yourself it will still work. Well, at least on p9p Acme, I'm not sure about Plan 9 Acme. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On May 9, 2018 5:40 PM, 刘宇宝 wrote: > Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The prompt > function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous command, > a poor man's undo buffer :-D > > I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with > /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and > leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. > > > On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: > > > > hi. > > > > i think it is humour of a kind. > > > > i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is > > not possible. > > > > you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text > > /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the > > current windows id) > > > > -Steve > > > > On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 liuyu...@yingmi.cn wrote: > > > > > > > I miss much the universal shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on > > > > > > > > > > macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? > > > > > > > > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. > > > > > > > > To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is > > > > > > > > also automatically provisioned, free of charge. > > > > > > Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of > > > http://fqa.9front.org/ ? > > > > > > I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days > > > ago, I'm seriously asking :-D > > > > > > Maybe I already got the answer @_@ > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Yubao Liu
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
Excellent! This indeed gives an rc shell window embed into Acme editor, and I can undo editing in it, right what I want! Thank you very much! > On May 10, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Chris McGee wrote: > > There’s a ‘win’ command you can executed in acme to get an interactive rc > shell window. > >> On May 9, 2018, at 11:40 AM, 刘宇宝 wrote: >> >> Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The >> prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous >> command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D >> >> I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with >> /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and >> leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. >> >>> On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon wrote: >>> >>> hi. >>> >>> i think it is humour of a kind. >>> >>> i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is >>> not possible. >>> >>> you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text >>> /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the >>> current windows id) >>> >>> -Steve >>> >>> >>> On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 wrote: >>> >> I miss much the *universal* shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? >> > > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. > To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is > also automatically provisioned, free of charge. Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D Maybe I already got the answer @_@ Thanks, Yubao Liu >>> >>> >> >
Re: [9fans] how to undo in Rio shell window and Acme editor?
Yes, "win rc" embeds a rc shell window in Acme, I can undo in the shell window, that's perfect! But the edit in tag line can't be undo, I find the Undo command has no effect if it's on the top main tag line or the column tag line, it only works on window tag line and only undo editing in the text window. I tried p9p Acme on Mac OS X, seems the mouse button emulation with trackpad is broken, p9p Acme doesn't response to Shift + Secondary Click, this is probably my problem, won't play it now until I'm more familiar with 9front in Virtualbox. Thanks a lot! > On May 10, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Raingloom wrote: > > Even if you are not in a `win` window (eg. if you are in an +Error one) you > can use Undo. Sometimes Acme doesn't actually put Undo in the tag line, but > if you type it out yourself it will still work. Well, at least on p9p Acme, > I'm not sure about Plan 9 Acme. > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On May 9, 2018 5:40 PM, 刘宇宝 wrote: > >> Great thanks for your idea, file oriented design is very flexible! The >> prompt function may be used to automatically backup the output of previous >> command, a poor man's undo buffer :-D >> >> I tried to execute "rc" in Acme, seems Acme always execution command with >> /dev/null as stdin, I can't embed an interactive rc session into Acme and >> leverage the undo buffer of Acme window. >> >>> On May 9, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: >>> >>> hi. >>> >>> i think it is humour of a kind. >>> >>> i cannot speak for acme but rio has no undo buffer, so what you ask for is >>> not possible. >>> >>> you can save a windows content (including history). e.g. /dev/wsys/11/text >>> /tmp (assuming the window you want is number 11, cat /dev/winid to get the >>> current windows id) >>> >>> -Steve >>> >>> On 9 May 2018, at 11:55, 刘宇宝 liuyu...@yingmi.cn wrote: >>> >> I miss much the universal shortcut Ctrl-z on Window and Command-z on >> >> macOS, does Rio and Acme have the equivalent? > > Both the Ctrl key and the z key are fully supported on 9front Systems. > > To remove undesired characters from the screen, the Backspace key is > > also automatically provisioned, free of charge. Wow, is this kind of humor like the picture at the bottom of http://fqa.9front.org/ ? I'm not a troll, I wrote several articles to introduce Plan 9 some days ago, I'm seriously asking :-D Maybe I already got the answer @_@ Thanks, Yubao Liu > > >
[9fans] What's the fastest way to input command in Acme?
[[ I got perfect answers to my original questions about undo, the another questions is probably neglected, so I split another thread.]] In VIM, I can input ...comand, in Acme I have to move cursor to command area and click, input command, press , click middle mouse button on the highlighted command, is this the fastest way to input command in Acme? I'm not arguing Vim is better, I agree some operations are faster in Vim and some faster in Acme, I just want to know the most efficient way in Acme. Thanks in advance for your kindly help!
