Re: [9fans] the fossil (tm) stolen

2018-04-16 Thread Pavel Klinkovský
> I Really use fossil and venti and have done so for the last 12 years,
> though perhaps I am nobody...
>

So we are 2 nobodies, at least... ;)

Pavel


Re: [9fans] the fossil (tm) stolen

2018-04-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
3 nobody's;  I switched to fossil+venti about 4 years ago.

I also know of at least 2 other nobody's that run it.

-Skip

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 12:10 AM Pavel Klinkovský 
wrote:

>
> I Really use fossil and venti and have done so for the last 12 years,
>> though perhaps I am nobody...
>>
>
> So we are 2 nobodies, at least... ;)
>
> Pavel
>
>


Re: [9fans] the fossil (tm) stolen

2018-04-16 Thread Lucio De Re
Four. Long-standing nobody, too.

Lucio.



Re: [9fans] the fossil (tm) stolen

2018-04-16 Thread Steven Stallion
Five. I just haven't had the heart to decommission it yet.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Lucio De Re  wrote:
> Four. Long-standing nobody, too.
>
> Lucio.
>



Re: [9fans] the fossil (tm) stolen

2018-04-16 Thread Adriano Verardo

six, since 2007 at home and on several industrial plants
adriano

Five. I just haven't had the heart to decommission it yet.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Lucio De Re  wrote:

Four. Long-standing nobody, too.

Lucio.








Re: [9fans] the fossil (tm) stolen

2018-04-16 Thread Joe M
Hello,

Recently, I tried fossil on 9front (libventi library) and came across
2 issues.

1. flfmt -v fails with "no qidSpace"
2. fossil hangs while snap -a is working in the background. This
happens during the initial load as there is more data to work
through. A few GB of unventi'd data can cause this.

These are probably issues that do not happen during routine usage.

Details of the issues:
1. flfmt -v
snap -a in the console: http://okturing.com/src/4288/body
main: archive vac:5c1bb334c0e40b080c245409d0a9ea8b73e9d074
no qidSpace with the same vac (fossil/last has the same vac): 
http://okturing.com/src/4286/body
dumpvacroots and vacchain.rc: http://okturing.com/src/4287/body
I should have tried this without the 'vac:' prefix:
  fossil/flfmt -v vac:da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709 
/dev/bkp/fossil
  this is the 'short' vac reported by vacchain.rc
I do not have the fossil install to try it now. But, hopefully
  this information might prove useful to the next guy coming along.

2.fossil hang
stack trace when the hang happens:
http://okturing.com/src/4254/body
http://okturing.com/src/4267/body
fossil setup: http://okturing.com/src/4268/body

>From fossil to venti, it took almost a day or more to push through
30GB uncompressed data. Whereas, vac did it within an
hour'ish. Though, one does not get the snapshot and active partitions,
it appears that vac is much more attuned to venti than fossil.

Again, I am a newbie and might be missing something
fundamental. Hopefully, this documents some hurdles for the next guy
coming along.

Thanks
Joe


Adriano Verardo wrote:
> six, since 2007 at home and on several industrial plants
> adriano
> > Five. I just haven't had the heart to decommission it yet.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Lucio De Re  wrote:
> >> Four. Long-standing nobody, too.
> >>
> >> Lucio.
> >>
> >
>
>



[9fans] fossil+venti vs. cwfs - dealing with backups

2018-04-16 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
What has kept me running fossil+venti is the ease of backing up the file 
server.  Copying the venti arenas offsite is trivial.  And Geoff put 
together glue to write sealed arenas to blu-ray as well.


I don't see any simple way to do that with cwfs*.  Or hjfs.  I am very 
curious to know how the not-fossil/venti FS servers are backing up. 
Share?


--lyndon




Re: [9fans] fossil+venti vs. cwfs - dealing with backups

2018-04-16 Thread Steven Stallion
The easiest method with cwfs or Ken's is to keep track of the size of
the WORM - since everything is appended, it's fairly simple to copy
the set of blocks after each dump. It's been a few years since I've
done this, but it is just as reliable as venti, albeit less
convenient.

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg  wrote:
> What has kept me running fossil+venti is the ease of backing up the file
> server.  Copying the venti arenas offsite is trivial.  And Geoff put
> together glue to write sealed arenas to blu-ray as well.
>
> I don't see any simple way to do that with cwfs*.  Or hjfs.  I am very
> curious to know how the not-fossil/venti FS servers are backing up. Share?
>
> --lyndon
>
>