Re: [9fans] Hardware recommandations for new CPU and file servers

2013-06-06 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:48:14 +0200 lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> > What capacity and features were you looking for?
> 
> I'm looking to eliminate the 220V circuit between UPS and PSU
> altogether, I believe it to be archaic and inefficient.  I'm also
> looking for multiple inputs, so that eventually it will be possible to
> connect the PSU directly to solar panels as well as to any available
> generator (this is Africa: lots of sun, but the demand for electricity
> outstrips the supply).

You might want to google "living off the grid" (which, I am
sure, makes people in the poorer nations laugh). You should be
able to find stuff about 12V appliances, DC-DC converters,
etc. etc.

> I've done some homework and I'm not happy with commercial offerings as
> available here.  I'm looking for a circuit that can be built by an
> amateur and will power a single conventional desktop computer (let's
> say 300W), while at the same time it can be scaled to supply as many
> such desktops as needed.  Given the handful of DC supplies required by
> the average motherboard, the idea of stacking PSUs makes a lot of
> sense to me.

But what is the market? In places with very unreliable
electric supply people either make do without electricity or
if it is affordable use diesel generators (and now roof
mounted solar panels with inverters).

On the RaspberryPi.org site there is an article about setting
up RaspberryPi computers in a rural school in Ghana.  I think
something like that may be a more appropriate solution.  You
can find relatively simple designs for low power supplies but
generating 300W will be nontrivial. Particularly if you are
want to build many

Still, a laudable goal. Have you checked out various
do-it-yourself sites?



Re: [9fans] Hardware recommandations for new CPU and file servers

2013-06-06 Thread lucio
> Still, a laudable goal. Have you checked out various
> do-it-yourself sites?

I think I have a cultural inability to search the web, but I certainly
did try.

That I actually found a single supplier of Li-Ion battery backed-up
PSUs for desktop computers suggests that there is the engineering
savvy and possibly even a marketplace for such devices.

The marketplace itself is not terribly relevant, I'd be satisfied with
a higher unit cost if in some way it was possible to add capacity in
steps.  Being able to build it from readily available components (deep
discharge lead-acid batteries are one annoyingly unavoidable expense)
is important and one would like modules that can be trusted to last a
long time - if necessary by over-engineering them a little.

I will have a look at off-the-grid suggestions, but I fear they tend
to focus on pre-built modules and in my opinion the hobbyist can focus
on issues that commercial companies prefer to avoid, such as quality
and long-term reliability.

++L




Re: [9fans] Hardware recommandations for new CPU and file servers

2013-06-06 Thread lucio
> if it is affordable use diesel generators

I have a UPS that won't sync with the generator, there are engineering
excuses for this, but it's ridiculous that two expensive pieces of
equipment can't cooperate to solve the problem they are designed to
address.

It's that type of absurdity that makes me think progress has lost the
plot.

++L




Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-06-06 Thread Aaron Sawyer
In article <20130603202129.ga84...@intma.in>, kh...@intma.in says...
> 
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 03:41:39PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > which is to say that the thesis that fossil sucks is refuted.
> > 
> > - erik
> 
> *now* I know what you guys meant by 'snarky comments.'
> 
> "Just the place for some Snark!" the 9fan cried,
> As he landed his Apples with care;
> Supporting each mac on the top of the tide
> By a lanyard tied off to his Air.
> 
> "Just the place for some Snark! I have said it twice:
> That alone should encourage the macs.
> Just the place for some Snark!  I have said it thrice:
> What I tell you three times is true."
> 
(much awesomeness snipped)

"The Hunting of the Fossil"   FTW !!

Well done!
=Aaron



Re: [9fans] Hardware recommandations for new CPU and file servers

2013-06-06 Thread Richard Miller
> For something low power you can use an external power brick and a "picoPSU" 
> DC-DC converter with 12V in and 5V + 12V out with appropriate connectors.

Yes - I use picoPSU with both atom and core i5 (low-power 2500T model),
and find them very reliable.  Besides being fanless they take up hardly
any space in a small case.




Re: [9fans] Hardware recommandations for new CPU and file servers

2013-06-06 Thread hiro
I just use old thinkpads from the scrapyard.
schrotti is an old x20 with broken screen, connected is one sata hdd via pcmcia.
The main file server is an x60 with docking station and pcmcia sata
card, together this gives me 4 sata ports. You just need the right
cables (ebay china).
In terms of webscale there is no power shortage or anything as I have
more thinkpad power converters than light switches. batteries hold
longer than 1 hour, so i don't need special gear. You just have to
plug-in more thinkpads, enable pxe-boot in bios and off you go. 12TB
is easy with 4*3TB drives
Some friends have my backups in their living rooms so they can listen
to my music or watch my films. Of course there is no need for
enterprise-class magnets or jet engines. Redundancy gets created by
creating more demand for my data.

On 6/6/13, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
>> For something low power you can use an external power brick and a
>> "picoPSU" DC-DC converter with 12V in and 5V + 12V out with appropriate
>> connectors.
>
> Yes - I use picoPSU with both atom and core i5 (low-power 2500T model),
> and find them very reliable.  Besides being fanless they take up hardly
> any space in a small case.
>
>
>



[9fans] 9n

2013-06-06 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
Hi,

I have copied at sources.lsub.org/9n a copy of a modified plan 9 kernel
that has a new mount table and mount driver, (everything near namec changed),
along with a variant of fossil that speaks 9P2000.ix aka 9pix.

See 9n.README for the details.

It's experimental, so use with caution. I'm using it at my terminal but
it's too young to be reliable.

I also copied at 9nbits in the same server a few files that might be needed
(the new kernel has a new OBEHIND open flag to enable write behind for
files and thus has a new fdflush syscall). 

At http://lsub.org/export/9pix.pdf you have a TR describing the changes made.

We also have a nix mark II that has these and other changes, and it's likely we
will make it public at the old lsub nix site, but we are still changing it and 
fixing
bugs there, so don't hold your breath. Besides this, the new nix has a new
scheduler and a new memory manager.

If anyone gives a try to any of this, and finds out any problem, please, concat
us off list and we'll try to help.
Our main tree has quite a few changes and it's likely I forgot to copy some bit
or made some other mistake :)

enjoy.




Re: [9fans] 9n

2013-06-06 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros

On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros  wrote:

>  concat
> us

Since concat'ing us may be disgusting, I should have written "contact us".
sorry.