Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
I couldn't get plan9 to run in my qemu vm but 9front (plan9 fork) works flawlessly. http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/ - Andreas On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Josh Marshall < joshua.r.marshall.1...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm chugging through the resources, reading, and documentation. This > system acts differently from anything I've previously used, so I'm at a loss > at...everything. I visited the IRC channel and am working through the .pdf > and the main site. Is there anything else I should be looking into? Also, > the .pdf said that I should have a working plan9 install available to > practice, so I tried using vmplayer but the kernel panics. I'm learning, > but not well acquainted with kernel programming, debugging, or anything > else. Also, if this all seems kind of incoherent, I'm sorry, its past 2am > and I've been working on absorbing info for over 4 hours. >
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
> http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/ > > - Andreas Why this? What's wrong with plan9? I haven't found a word about the reasons on the cited pages. I see there is a problem almost in every piece of plan9 code. I would like to see people trying to fix it, and only fork, if there is a reason... Ruda
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 16:10:12 +0200 Rudolf Sykora wrote: > > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/ > > > > - Andreas > > Why this? What's wrong with plan9? I haven't found a word about the > reasons on the cited pages. > > I see there is a problem almost in every piece of plan9 code. I would > like to see people trying to fix it, and only fork, if there is a > reason... > Ruda > There is a reason. Two, in fact: The 9fronters are finding it a great learning experience and they're having a lot of fun. IMO this "reason" rubbish is why we haven't had systems research in far too long. As Elucid said when a student asked what was the reason for all this learning, "Give him 2 small coins so he may profit from what he has learned." So the student was given the coins and then expelled.
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > we haven't had systems research in far too long Ah, yes, that's why I've been working all this time on carefully studying the licenses of all the software involved. I didn't notice.
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: >> http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/ >> >> - Andreas > > Why this? What's wrong with plan9? I haven't found a word about the > reasons on the cited pages. > > I see there is a problem almost in every piece of plan9 code. I would > like to see people trying to fix it, and only fork, if there is a > reason... > Ruda > > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/detail?r=bb876e773014caf09c18f4fea6be5100bddbeb2b
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
it's a shame that none of this is hosted on Plan 9 systems (including cat-v). -Skip On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Iruatã Souza wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Rudolf Sykora > wrote: >>> http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/ >>> >>> - Andreas >> >> Why this? What's wrong with plan9? I haven't found a word about the >> reasons on the cited pages. >> >> I see there is a problem almost in every piece of plan9 code. I would >> like to see people trying to fix it, and only fork, if there is a >> reason... >> Ruda >> >> > > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/detail?r=bb876e773014caf09c18f4fea6be5100bddbeb2b > >
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
Ok, I tried running 9vx for my linux install and it dies. Ubuntu 11.04 fully updated x64_86. I don't know what else info will help. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Iruatã Souza wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Rudolf Sykora > wrote: > >> http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/ > >> > >> - Andreas > > > > Why this? What's wrong with plan9? I haven't found a word about the > > reasons on the cited pages. > > > > I see there is a problem almost in every piece of plan9 code. I would > > like to see people trying to fix it, and only fork, if there is a > > reason... > > Ruda > > > > > > > http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/source/detail?r=bb876e773014caf09c18f4fea6be5100bddbeb2b > >
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
> Ok, I tried running 9vx for my linux install and it dies. Ubuntu > 11.04 fully updated x64_86. I don't know what else info will help. Are you sure you tried one of the current 9vx repository ([1] or [2]), and not the old repository [3] (2009-12-27) or a very old binary [4] (2008-07-01)? [1] https://bitbucket.org/yiyus/vx32 [2] https://bitbucket.org/rminnich/vx32 [3] https://bitbucket.org/rsc/vx32 [4] http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~rsc/9vx-0.12.tar.bz2 -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
I have the most recent version. Still doesn't work. Also, last night(2 days?) someone posted a .pdf about *nix, a fork of plan9 which has a unique feature where cores are dedicated to certain functions like timing, OS, and user programs. Any idea where I can find it? Code, .iso, or anything really to research and play with. I'm a college sophomore, so please be patient with me. Once I have a grounding, I would hope to start some sort of development and throw out a few ideas of my own should they turn out. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:04 AM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ok, I tried running 9vx for my linux install and it dies. Ubuntu > > 11.04 fully updated x64_86. I don't know what else info will help. > > Are you sure you tried one of the current 9vx repository ([1] or [2]), > and not the old repository [3] (2009-12-27) or a very old binary [4] > (2008-07-01)? > > [1] https://bitbucket.org/yiyus/vx32 > [2] https://bitbucket.org/rminnich/vx32 > [3] https://bitbucket.org/rsc/vx32 > [4] http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~rsc/9vx-0.12.tar.bz2 > > -- > David du Colombier > >
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
Nix (I believe it's just nix) is on bitbucket, npe/nix. I agree it looks interesting, although I've only read the paper and browsed the tree a bit so far. For 9vx, you're going to need to provide some more details about the failure mode. What exactly do you do to try and get it running, what exactly does it say as a result?
Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.
My roommate had quite an experience trying to get 9vx to work on the new ubuntus. The big problem is the 64 bit. Have you tried running it on a 32 bit linux? I think what worked well for him was a ubuntu 9.04 32 bit install. - Jason
