Re: [9fans] Worksheet program

[cej]

> You might try control(2) instead.  See
/sys/src/cmd/auth/factotum/fgui.c
/sys/src/cmd/bitsy/keyboard.c
> for examples.

>   Sape


Alternatively, you might like to use Acme interface.

++pac

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Re: [9fans] Worksheet program

[Anders Li]

why you all have so many time on Plan9 ?
is it very interest in researching plan9 ?
You are all not busy in working , right ?
and you all have much many to do your own things in spare time, right ?
Do you think it is very cool to program in plan9 ?


On 4/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > You might try control(2) instead.  See
>/sys/src/cmd/auth/factotum/fgui.c
>/sys/src/cmd/bitsy/keyboard.c
> > for examples.
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> >   Sape
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> Alternatively, you might like to use Acme interface.
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> ++pac
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Re: [9fans] Worksheet program

[cej]

> Do you think it is very cool to program in plan9 ?
yep.


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Re: [9fans] Worksheet program

[Anders Li]

hi, thanks !!
I send several kind of this emails,but just you give me a back.
I think so .

last year I installed a play9 in qemu, but didnot know how to use it, how to
begin
to program for it. Meanwhile my work is very busy and do not have enough
time
to play with it.

Can you give a advice on how to start to program for it ?
are there some useful materials on it  ?
Are you install it on a physical machine or just use virtual machine ?


br,

anders.li


On 4/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Do you think it is very cool to program in plan9 ?
> yep.
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Re: [9fans] Worksheet program

[Hongzheng Wang]

Read the papers at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/ may be a good
starting point.

Frankly, it is really time consumed.  So, please be careful to
schedule your work and the navigation into plan9.  Anyway, plan9 is a
real production platform rather than a toy.

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Anders Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi, thanks !!
> I send several kind of this emails,but just you give me a back.
> I think so .
>
> last year I installed a play9 in qemu, but didnot know how to use it, how to
> begin
> to program for it. Meanwhile my work is very busy and do not have enough
> time
> to play with it.
>
> Can you give a advice on how to start to program for it ?
> are there some useful materials on it  ?
> Are you install it on a physical machine or just use virtual machine ?
>
>
> br,
>
> anders.li
>

-- 
HZ

Re: [9fans] Worksheet program

[cej]

Welcome!!

If you want a native p9, look here first for compatible HW: 
http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html
To install, look here: 
http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Installation_instructions/index.html
C compiler man page is here: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/1/2c
Read documentation at: 
http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Documentation/index.html
Browse wiki: http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/

Cross fingers,
++pac.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Anders Li
Sent: Wed 4/2/2008 11:17 AM
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Subject: Re: [9fans] Worksheet program
 
hi, thanks !!
I send several kind of this emails,but just you give me a back.
I think so .

last year I installed a play9 in qemu, but didnot know how to use it, how to
begin
to program for it. Meanwhile my work is very busy and do not have enough
time
to play with it.

Can you give a advice on how to start to program for it ?
are there some useful materials on it  ?
Are you install it on a physical machine or just use virtual machine ?


br,

anders.li


On 4/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Do you think it is very cool to program in plan9 ?
> yep.
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Re: [9fans] silliness in flight: build a desktop calculator with

[kokamoto]

>>> http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/netlib/demos/suzuki/s41.html
>> 
>> hmmm, this was a educational task for Mr. Suzuki at that time...
> 
> is there an updated version of calc2? it uses an old control(2) library.

In short, no.

I'm not so happy to develope it on the same line...

Kenji  --deficient memory now and power, sad...

Re: [9fans] silliness in flight: build a desktop calculator with

[kokamoto]

>>  Of course, you can use or improve it by your own risk.   However,
>>  if anyone wants to link such a property, I suppose, s/he should contact
>>  with the original author...
> 
> what would happen if everytime you wanted to give a link to something public
> you had to contact the original author? 

When I was a graduate student, my teacher taught me "Science is a private work,
and if you want to learn something from someone, you should first contact 
her/him
direct.  This is very important, and you should remember this all the time" 
(not the
original words, but this way).   I agree with him, and am keeping his words.

> would that make the flow of information
> and knowledge harder, wouldn't it? did google contact the original author too?
> anyways, my intention was not to be disrespectful or anything, but
> being helpful.

I don't know what google is doing, however, I suppose they must have 
some criteria on what they are doing.   Furthermore, I think they are on a 
business
world, where there is a solid way to solve problems if any.   

To contact someone in person is not so hard now, just write email, very easy. ☺
If he had done this way, there may have been no problem...

Above said, yes,  I think I can understand what you are saying.   
This is a very difficult problem now.   However, I believe the way what human 
thinks
right will not change so easy in a long time.

Kenji

Re: [9fans] Worksheet program

[kernel panic]

> why you all have so many time on Plan9 ?
> is it very interest in researching plan9 ?
> You are all not busy in working , right ?
> and you all have much many to do your own things in spare time, right ?
> Do you think it is very cool to program in plan9 ?

all your time are belong to us!

HA HA HA!

cinap
-- 
GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen!
Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [9fans] Worksheet program

[Chad Dougherty]

Anders Li wrote:
> Can you give a advice on how to start to program for it ?
> are there some useful materials on it  ?
> Are you install it on a physical machine or just use virtual machine ?
> 

you might also try nemo's excellent "Introduction to Operating
Systems Abstractions Using Plan 9 from Bell Labs":

Re: [9fans] silliness in flight: build a desktop calculator with

[hiro]

> When I was a graduate student, my teacher taught me "Science is a private 
> work,
>  and if you want to learn something from someone, you should first contact 
> her/him
>  direct.  This is very important, and you should remember this all the time" 
> (not the
>  original words, but this way).   I agree with him, and am keeping his words.
strange, i haven't talked to einstein, nor
Well, clearly the personal discussion of an issue, brings the fastest
and biggest gain of wisdom. Optimally for every one related. But we
often have a big difference of wisdom so that one will rather hold
lectures or write books about it to impart more knowledge to a brouder
public.
I didn't contact newton to get some basic understanding of my environment.
I don't mind it not being possible either.
emailing is easy, and that's why i'm consuming your time, too.
but otherwise i don't see the point in this advice of your teacer's.
Ther is no magic bullet email. And furthermore, there is no problem,
like you call it.

[9fans] ip/dhcpd delays

[erik quanstrom]

ip/dhcpd prints the time it takes to generate an offer in µs.
we're not using any dynamic addresses which could generate
a sleep in db.c:/^lockopen yet i times between 0µs and 
110µs.  has anyone else seen this behavior?

- erik

Re: [9fans] silliness in flight: build a desktop calculator with

[Federico G. Benavento]

hola,

>  Above said, yes,  I think I can understand what you are saying.
>  This is a very difficult problem now.   However, I believe the way what 
> human thinks
>  right will not change so easy in a long time.
>

there is no problem actually, just a different hierarchy of values caused
by the difference in our cultures. this won't happen again.
next time I have some information that could be useful to someone, I'll
check my priorities and decide the right course of action.

thanks

-- 
Federico G. Benavento

moving to the country gonna eat a lot of peaches...