[sage-devel] Re: 4.1.1.alpha0 Installation just 'dying' for no known reason

2009-07-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I thought ATLAS would build! I believe if you should be able to get up > to the point where the sage-4.1.1.spkg gets going. I think the > installation will fail there due to two separate bugs. > > At least now the impact of

[sage-devel] Re: Suppressing warning messages - not a good idea IMHO

2009-07-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > Hi David, > > I'm cc'ing this on to Mike Rubinstein, the author of lcalc, in case he > has any comments. > > William Thank you. I've not looked at the compiler warnings - the only warning messages I actually noticed was from the Sun assembler, as it did not did not und

[sage-devel] barriers to community growth

2009-07-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, I just come across a document outlining some barriers to growing a community around an open source project. You can get it at this blog post: http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2009/07/22/barriers-to-community-growth/ In the meantime, Jono Bacon's book "The Art of Community" is still not ye

[sage-devel] Re: Sagemath with Phone

2009-07-24 Thread Sergey Semerikov
On Jul 24, 8:33 am, NoSyu wrote: >   Now I make the WAP Page in Sagemath notebook. A good job! But it have some potential problems (I apologize for stress tests, which could result in a higher server load): 1. wap_test_01 - a virtual user. Every WAP-call creates a new worksheet at http://math1.

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 23, 7:09 pm, rjf wrote: > Regarding Sage running on a server: some of the components may be > sufficiently general as to pose hazards in a server environment. For > example, Maxima can create and delete files, quickly fill up all > available memory, etc. I would guess that other compone

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread David Kirkby
2009/7/23 rjf > > > > Regarding Sage running on a server:  some of the components may be > sufficiently general as to pose hazards in a server environment.  For > example, Maxima can create and delete files, quickly fill up all > available memory, etc.  I would guess that other components are als

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, David Kirkby wrote: >> Any instructor who has been asked, after a particularly beautifully >> delivered lecture/demonstration, "Will this be on the final?" >> may have to say, oh, I guess not. You won't be using a computer >> during the final. > > Do univerist

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread David Kirkby
2009/7/24 Minh Nguyen : > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, David Kirkby wrote: > > > >>> Any instructor who has been asked, after a particularly beautifully >>> delivered lecture/demonstration, "Will this be on the final?" >>> may have to say,  oh, I guess not.  You won't be using a computer >>

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:37 PM, David Kirkby wrote: >> I have taken a one-semester course on numerical analysis using Maple. >> The final exam was worth over 50% of the total mark. We were required >> to use a computer with Maple loaded, write Maple programs in response >> to exam questions, a

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread David Kirkby
2009/7/24 Minh Nguyen : > The former head of school (the school that was running the course) was > well aware of limitations of mathematics software systems (or computer > algebra system, if you like). But I cannot recall that the course > lecturer talked about downsides of proprietary systems or

[sage-devel] Re: Suppressing warning messages - not a good idea IMHO

2009-07-24 Thread David Kirkby
Perhaps there needs to be a rule or coding guideline that attempts to suppress compiler/linker/assembler warnings must not be used in spkg-install and similar files. Perhaps even that new packages that are considered for inclusion to Sage, should have instances of such measures removed. Personal

[sage-devel] notebook/tinymce and utf-8 problem

2009-07-24 Thread Sergey Semerikov
Current settings of notebook/TinyMCE lead to bug with non-ASCII letters (e.g., cyrillic). Example: https://sagenb.kaist.ac.kr:8066/home/pub/4/ Applying language packs for TinyMCE not resolve this problem. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to s

[sage-devel] Re: notebook/tinymce and utf-8 problem

2009-07-24 Thread NoSyu
Hello Mayge it can be solved the problem to change the soruce like this. http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/e3b8dce14b6375bf/e91f422e0805ed2f?hl=ko On 7월24일, 오후9시31분, Sergey Semerikov wrote: > Current settings of notebook/TinyMCE lead to bug with non-ASCII > lette

[sage-devel] Re: Suppressing warning messages - not a good idea IMHO

2009-07-24 Thread Michael Rubinstein
I agree. I was just being lazy at some point, and left it like taht. I'll fix. Best, Mike On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, William Stein wrote: > Hi David, > > I'm cc'ing this on to Mike Rubinstein, the author of lcalc, in case he > has any comments. > > William > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Dr. Da

[sage-devel] Re: Sagemath with Phone

2009-07-24 Thread NoSyu
Thanks to reply it. I surprised that sage is accepted sh operation. Maybe it should be banned. 1. Yes. wap_test_01 is virtual user for wap_html page. and one process by one worksheet. Maybe I make the delete function automatically when sage notebook is lauched or whenever. groundhog day?

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 22, 8:32 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Jul 20, 2:09 pm, Marshall Hampton wrote: > > > Hi Jan, > > > I thought you could do something like: > > > sage -upgrade MIRROR That whole business is now http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6612 and using a mirror URL as an argument to sage

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:09 AM, rjf wrote: > Regarding Sage running on a server: some of the components may be > sufficiently general as to pose hazards in a server environment. For > example, Maxima can create and delete files, quickly fill up all > available memory, etc. I would guess that oth

[sage-devel] Re: Sagemath with Phone

2009-07-24 Thread Sergey Semerikov
On Jul 24, 3:49 pm, NoSyu wrote: > groundhog day? "The Groundhog Day server gets reset every day to the exact same state. No user data of any kind is saved; everything is erased." ( Lokk at http://sagenb.kaist.ac.kr/about.html) > 2. Oh... > > But txt file is not... > I search or make another

[sage-devel] Re: notebook/tinymce and utf-8 problem

2009-07-24 Thread Sergey Semerikov
> Mayge it can be solved the problem to change the soruce like this. > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/e3b8dc... Thank you! So, you patch for ticket 6464 not only for Korean, but for any language with non-latin characters. --~--~-~--~~~

[sage-devel] Re: barriers to community growth

2009-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I just come across a document outlining some barriers to growing a > community around an open source project. You can get it at this blog > post: > > http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2009/07/22/barriers-to-community-growth/ **Visio

[sage-devel] Re: barriers to community growth

2009-07-24 Thread kcrisman
Thanks, Minh, this was a neat document, clearly collating material which is sometimes diffuse and disorganized. > The document says: "The cost of not enforcing a rule of no deliberate > rudeness, no ad hominem attacks, and making sure that in general > people remain civil is that uncivil behavior

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Jul 23, 7:09 pm, rjf wrote: >> Regarding Sage running on a server:  some of the components may be >> sufficiently general as to pose hazards in a server environment.  For >> example, Maxima can create and delete files, quickly fill up

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:09 AM, David Kirkby wrote: > > 2009/7/24 Minh Nguyen : > >> The former head of school (the school that was running the course) was >> well aware of limitations of mathematics software systems (or computer >> algebra system, if you like). But I cannot recall that the cours

[sage-devel] Re: barriers to community growth

2009-07-24 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 24, 4:56 pm, kcrisman wrote: > > * Do new employees get the keys to the house on their first day? > > > Not applicable. > > It's worth pointing out here, although it's not the point the author > makes since there are (mostly) not "employees", that there is a > "quarantine" period at least

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-24 Thread kcrisman
> > And yes, I think it would help some students to understand what a > > group or ring is if it is programmable in sage - but I say only some, > > others might be confused or more happy with another approach! I think > > there is no golden way that fits for all students, but more > > opportunit

[sage-devel] Re: barriers to community growth

2009-07-24 Thread kcrisman
On Jul 24, 11:20 am, Harald Schilly wrote: > On Jul 24, 4:56 pm, kcrisman wrote: > > > > * Do new employees get the keys to the house on their first day? > > > > Not applicable. > > > It's worth pointing out here, although it's not the point the author > > makes since there are (mostly) not "e

[sage-devel] Re: barriers to community growth

2009-07-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Jul 24, 4:56 pm, kcrisman wrote: >> > * Do new employees get the keys to the house on their first day? >> >> > Not applicable. >> >> It's worth pointing out here, although it's not the point the author >> makes since there are (mostly)

[sage-devel] lapack doesn't compile in Sage 4.1

2009-07-24 Thread Anders Claesson
Any ideas why? /Anders make[3]: Entering directory `/home/anders/sage-4.1/spkg/build/ lapack-20071123.p0/src/INSTALL' sage_fortran -fPIC -c lsame.f -o lsame.o sage_fortran -fPIC -c lsametst.f -o lsametst.o sage_fortran -o testlsame lsame.o lsametst.o ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or d

[sage-devel] Re: lapack doesn't compile in Sage 4.1

2009-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Anders Claesson wrote: > > Any ideas why? > /Anders > You may have to install and use your own fortran as explained in the README.txt included with Sage: "NOTE: If you're using Fortran on a platform without g95 binaries included with Sage, e.g., Itani

[sage-devel] Symbolic links? + jsMath in the sage repo

2009-07-24 Thread Pat LeSmithe
Although there are many useful symbolic links under $SAGE_LOCAL and hard links under $SAGE_ROOT/devel, Python's os module http://docs.python.org/library/os.html supports both types only on Unix systems (i.e., not Windows). I think the standard way to cope with no support for hard links is to u

[sage-devel] feature merge window closing on 26 July 2009

2009-07-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, Sage 4.1.1.alpha1 is nearly done. The feature merge window for the upcoming Sage 4.1.1 is scheduled to be closed on 26th July 2009, Pacific Time. Feel free to review a ticket or two from now until that time. After releasing 4.1.1.alpha1 comes the feature freeze, in which I plan to start

[sage-devel] boost coverage by 0.5%

2009-07-24 Thread John H Palmieri
Want to boost doctest coverage in Sage by 0.5%? Review the ticket John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-de

[sage-devel] Re: boost coverage by 0.5%

2009-07-24 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:59 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Want to boost doctest coverage in Sage by 0.5%?  Review the ticket > > > OK, done! william --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-

[sage-devel] Re: New Riemann mapping package/patch

2009-07-24 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi Ethan, > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Ethan Van Andel wrote: >> >>> under GPLv2+ or a compatible license. So if I understand you >>> correctly, your whole project is less than 1000 lines of code and >>> documentation combined. In t

[sage-devel] Re: Symbolic links? + jsMath in the sage repo

2009-07-24 Thread David Kirkby
2009/7/24 Pat LeSmithe : > > > Although there are many useful symbolic links under $SAGE_LOCAL and hard > links under $SAGE_ROOT/devel, Python's os module > > http://docs.python.org/library/os.html > > supports both types only on Unix systems (i.e., not Windows).  I think > the standard way to cop

[sage-devel] Re: boost coverage by 0.5%

2009-07-24 Thread Marshall Hampton
You can get another .25% or so from: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6543 -Marshall On Jul 24, 7:06 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:59 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > Want to boost doctest coverage in Sage by 0.5%? Review the ticket > > >