On Oct 17, 5:39 pm, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> >> And my real point is that this is exactly the same as in every
> >> other modern language.
>
> > No, it isn't. In many other languages (C, Pascal, etc.), a
> > "variable" is commonl
[I am actually enjoying this discussion, even though it does not address
the OP's question. It is helping to solidify *my* understanding.]
Joe Strout wrote:
On Oct 27, 2008, at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this "uncontrived" example addresses the C/Python difference
fairly direc
On Oct 28, 2:33 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> En Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:16:04 -0200, Dale Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> escribió:
>
>
>
> > So, then, what to tell a C++ programmer about how Python passes
> > arguments?
On Oct 28, 11:59 am, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
>
> There are only the two cases, which Greg quite succinctly and
> accurately described above. One is by value, the other is by
> reference. Python quite clearly uses by value. Parameters are
> expressions that are evaluated
On Oct 28, 11:59 am, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
>
> There are only the two cases, which Greg quite succinctly and
> accurately described above. One is by value, the other is by
> reference. Python quite clearly uses by value. Parameters are
> expressions that are evaluated
On Oct 29, 9:13 pm, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Fuzzyman wrote:
>
> > You're pretty straightforwardly wrong. In Python the 'value' of a
> > variable is not the reference itself.
>
> That's the misconception that is leading some folks around here into
> tan
On Oct 30, 11:03 am, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
>> Are you saying that C++ is capable of using the Call By Reference idiom,
>> but C is not, because C does not have a reference designation for formal
>> function parameters?
>
> It's been a LONG time since I did anything in C, but y
On Oct 30, 3:06 pm, Dale Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... that idiom deserves a different name which
> distinguishes it from the commonly accepted notion of Pass By Value.
Bah, what I meant to end with was:
Just as the Pass By Reference idiom deserves a unique name to
disting
On Oct 31, 3:15 am, greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dale Roberts wrote:
> > Just as the Pass By Reference idiom deserves a unique name to
> > distinguish it from Pass By Value (even though it is often Pass By
> > (address) Value internally), so Pass By Object Reference
On Oct 31, 2:27 am, greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dale Roberts wrote:
> > Are you
> > saying that C++ is capable of using the Call By Reference idiom, but C
> > is not, because C does not have a reference designation for formal
> > function parameters?
>
On Apr 14, 8:33 am, Tim Chase wrote:
> ...
> I still prefer "Return False if any element of the iterable is
> not true" or "Return False if any element in the iterable is
> false" because that describes exactly what the algorithm does.
I agree that the original doc comment is not helpful as it st
On Apr 16, 2:27 pm, Tim Chase wrote:
> Raymond Hettinger wrote:
> > I will not change the sentence to "return false if any element
> > of the iterable is false." The negations make the sentence
> > hard to parse mentally
>
> Just as a ribbing, that "return X if any element of the iterable
> is X"
I've started using generators for some "real" work (love them!), and I
need to use send() to send values back into the yield inside the
generator. When I want to use the generator, though, I have to
essentially duplicate the machinery of a "for" loop, because the "for"
loop does not have a mechanis
On Apr 17, 10:07 pm, Aaron Brady wrote:
> You can do it with a wrapping generator. I'm not sure if it
> interferes with your needs. It calls 'next' the first time, then just
> calls 'send' on the parameter with the value you send it.
Aaron,
Thanks for the hint. I'd made a modified version of m
On Apr 19, 6:10 am, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
> ...
> I only just started reading Beazley's presentation, it looks interesting.
> Thanks for the hint!
>
> Are you currently using coroutines in Python? If so, what kind of practical
> problems do they simplify for you?
I thought I'd chim
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