On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 01:45:01 +, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Steve D'Aprano writes:
>>web.archive.org/web/20040428174214/http://www.geocities.com/
flo_kreidler/tictactoe.html
>>I am intrigued by the (alleged?) HTML version of tic-tac-toe. Can
>>somebody explain what it is doing and how it works?
>
>
"Fetchinson . via Python-list" writes:
> I'm trying to install a binary package (tensorflow) which contains
> some binary C extensions. Now my system glibc is 2.15 but the binaries
> in the C extensions were created (apparently) with glibc 2.17. So I
> thought no problemo I installed glibc 2.17 t
Hello,
Have working sample with strange property - payload:
class ExampleClass(object):
def __init__(self,value):
print("Initialising instance...")
self.payload = value
exampleInstance = ExampleClass(42)
print(exampleInstance.payload)
Is it some default field that all objec
Op 07-09-17 om 03:27 schreef Steve D'Aprano:
>
>> Yes it is. Pascal VAR parameters are exactly like Python a assignment.
> Proof by assertion?
>
> "It is true, because I say it is true!"
I didn't just assert, I also explained. That you choose to
ignore the explanation doesn't make it a proof by as
Chris Angelico :
> *facepalm*
>
> I got nothing to say to you.
Then why say anything?
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Dennis Lee Bieber :
> On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 10:37:42 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa
> declaimed the following:
>
>>
>>Which reminds me of this puzzle I saw a couple of days ago:
>>
>> 1 + 4 = 5
>> 2 + 5 = 12
>> 3 + 6 = 21
>> 8 + 11 = ?
>>
>>A mathematician immediately comes up with a "wrong" answer.
Era el Thu, 7 Sep 2017 00:48:34 -0700 (PDT) en comp.lang.python,
cuando de repente Andrej Viktorovich
dijo lo siguiente acerca de
what is payload:
> Hello,
>
> Have working sample with strange property - payload:
>
> class ExampleClass(object):
> def __init__(self,value):
> prin
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Dennis Lee Bieber :
>
>> On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 10:37:42 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa
>> declaimed the following:
>>
>>>
>>>Which reminds me of this puzzle I saw a couple of days ago:
>>>
>>> 1 + 4 = 5
>>> 2 + 5 = 12
>>> 3 + 6 = 21
>>> 8 + 11
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Thank you for the explanation Stefan, but I do know how to use a browser.
>
> What I didn't know is how the HTML works. I thought it was actually doing
> some computation, but it seems like its just jumping to pre-rendered tic-
> tac-toe gri
"Andrej Viktorovich" wrote in message
news:4ad4fa0e-cd61-412d-8c8f-9f5be2bad...@googlegroups.com...
Hello,
Have working sample with strange property - payload:
class ExampleClass(object):
def __init__(self,value):
print("Initialising instance...")
self.payload = value
exa
OOP newbie on Python 2.6.
I create instances of Character class with an attribute dict of
'skills'. The 'skills' dict has the name of a skill as the key and an
int as a value. The code adds or modifies skills before outputting the
Character.
Is it better design to have a Character.method tha
Hello
For my understanding both - __init__() and __new__() works like constructors.
And __new__() looks is closer to constructor. __init__() is more for variable
initialization. Why I can't just initialize in __init__() ?
class ExampleClass(object):
def __new__(cls,value):
print("cr
Chris Angelico writes:
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Dennis Lee Bieber :
>>
>>> On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 10:37:42 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa
>>> declaimed the following:
>>>
Which reminds me of this puzzle I saw a couple of days ago:
1 + 4 = 5
2 +
On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 4:27:48 PM UTC+5:30, Andrej Viktorovich wrote:
> Hello
>
> For my understanding both - __init__() and __new__() works like constructors.
> And __new__() looks is closer to constructor. __init__() is more for variable
> initialization. Why I can't just initialize
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Andrej Viktorovich
wrote:
>
> I have 64 bit python on my windows 10 machine. Install contains 32 bit python
> libs in path
> and I would like to remove them.
>
> I do
> imprt sys
> sys.path.remove("C:\\Users\\me\\AppData\\Local\\Programs\\Python\\Python36-32")
>
>
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 06:05 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> Thank you for the explanation Stefan, but I do know how to use a browser.
>>
>> What I didn't know is how the HTML works. I thought it was actually doing
>> some computation, but it se
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 07:20 pm, Leam Hall wrote:
> OOP newbie on Python 2.6.
Python 2.6 is ancient, and is missing many nice features. You should consider
using the latest version, 3.6.
> I create instances of Character class with an attribute dict of
> 'skills'. The 'skills' dict has the name of
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 08:57 pm, Andrej Viktorovich wrote:
> Hello
>
> For my understanding both - __init__() and __new__() works like constructors.
> And __new__() looks is closer to constructor. __init__() is more for variable
> initialization. Why I can't just initialize in __init__() ?
Because i
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 06:05 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>> Thank you for the explanation Stefan, but I do know how to use a browser.
>>>
>>> What I didn't know is how the HTML works
Andrej Viktorovich writes:
> For my understanding both - __init__() and __new__() works like
> constructors.
Not true, they work quite differently and have very different jobs.
> And __new__() looks is closer to constructor. __init__() is more for
> variable initialization.
That's right.
The
Steve D'Aprano writes:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 07:20 pm, Leam Hall wrote:
>
> > OOP newbie on Python 2.6.
>
> Python 2.6 is ancient, and is missing many nice features. You should
> consider using the latest version, 3.6.
Another, more compelling, reason to follow that advice: Python 2 is in
mainten
Ben Finney :
> Another, more compelling, reason to follow that advice: Python 2 is in
> maintenance-only mode and will receive no support at all in a few
> years. It is a dead end.
>
> Python 3 is actively developed and will be supported indefinitely.
This reminds me of the Biblical story of the m
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 07:20 pm, Leam Hall wrote:
>
> > OOP newbie on Python 2.6.
>
> Python 2.6 is ancient, and is missing many nice features. You should
> consider
> using the latest version, 3.6.
>
I've wrestled with that discussion for a wh
Rustom Mody wrote:
I said: In that case please restate the definition of 'is' from the manual which
invokes the notion of 'memory' without bringing in memory.
I don't know whether it's in the manual, but at least for
mutable objects, there is a way to define the notion of
"same object" that do
I know basic python and I have a log file, also I have print the output of
ports from the log file which there are so many ports in the output.
I want to know how to take only the dangerous ports from the printed ports -
Also I need to take the IP addresses from the dangerous ports - Finally how
leam hall writes:
> I've wrestled with that discussion for a while and Python 3 loses every
> time.
The context of the thread you started was that you are a *newcomer* to
Python. Now you say you've considered Python 2 versus Python 3 many
times? What explains that apparent contradiction?
> The
Steve D'Aprano wrote:
I think that these two increment procedures will be (more or less?) equivalent:
procedure increment(var n: integer);
begin
n := n + 1
end;
procedure increment2(p: intpointer);
begin
p^ := p^ + 1
end;
They are, with the proviso that, in standard Pascal, in
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:05 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>> I don't know why it places *two* pairs of crosses and naughts instead of
>> one. Maybe the page is broken.
>
> I think it is, as part of being on the Internet Archive. To get a
> working vers
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Steve D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> As a practical technique, naturally using a lookup table of pre-computed
>> values
>> is a good solution to many problems. But you cannot say you are performing
>> general computat
On 2017-09-07, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:05 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>>> I don't know why it places *two* pairs of crosses and naughts instead of
>>> one. Maybe the page is broken.
>>
>> I think it is, as part of being on the I
Hi,
I am using `pony` orm to write a simple class as my model. Here is the class.
```
from pony.orm import Database
from pony.orm import Required, Optional
from pony.orm import db_session
from pony.orm import select, commit
DB_PATH = ‘db.sqlite’
db = Database()
class Course(db.Entity):
"
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>> I said: In that case please restate the definition of 'is' from the manual
>> which invokes the notion of 'memory' without bringing in memory.
>
>
> I don't know whether it's in the manual, but at least for
> mutable o
On Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:35:58 UTC+3, eryk sun wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Andrej Viktorovich
> wrote:
> >
> > I have 64 bit python on my windows 10 machine. Install contains 32 bit
> > python libs in path
> > and I would like to remove them.
> >
> > I do
> > imprt sys
> > s
On 2017-09-06 16:14, Fetchinson . via Python-list wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm trying to install a binary package (tensorflow) which contains
> some binary C extensions. Now my system glibc is 2.15 but the binaries
> in the C extensions were created (apparently) with glibc 2.17. So I
> thought no pr
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 12:28 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> languages without mutable objects don't
> really care whether they're pass-by-X or pass-by-Y.
Only if you don't care about efficiency.
Believe me, the first time you pass a five gigabyte array to a function using
pass-by-value, on a machine wi
I'd like to use a python program to send out MIDI events
to another program. I've done in the past by generating scores
for csound which would do the MIDI output.
The apparent hurdle is the timing bit. I've seen packages that
allow the creation of MIDI events, but given a list of events
of arb
On 2017-09-07 16:25, Andrej Viktorovich wrote:
> On Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:35:58 UTC+3, eryk sun wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Andrej Viktorovich
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have 64 bit python on my windows 10 machine. Install contains 32 bit
>>> python libs in path
>>> and I would li
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 12:28 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> languages without mutable objects don't
>> really care whether they're pass-by-X or pass-by-Y.
>
> Only if you don't care about efficiency.
>
> Believe me, the first time you pass a five
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Andrej Viktorovich
wrote:
> On Thursday, 7 September 2017 14:35:58 UTC+3, eryk sun wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Andrej Viktorovich
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have 64 bit python on my windows 10 machine. Install contains 32 bit
>> > python libs in path
>>
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 02:24 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Steve D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 12:28 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> languages without mutable objects don't
>>> really care whether they're pass-by-X or pass-by-Y.
>>
>> Only if you don't care ab
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Rockzers wrote:
> I know basic python and I have a log file, also I have print the output of
> ports from the log file which there are so many ports in the output.
> I want to know how to take only the dangerous ports from the printed ports -
> Also I need to tak
On 06/09/17 14:02, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>> The 'is' operator tests if two things are the same thing.
>
>»Roughly speaking, to say of two things that they are
>identical is nonsense, and to say of one thing that it
>is identical with itself is to say not
On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:52:04 PM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > I said: In that case please restate the definition of 'is' from the manual
> > which
> > invokes the notion of 'memory' without bringing in memory.
>
> I don't know whether it's in the manual,
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On 9/7/17, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> On 2017-09-06 16:14, Fetchinson . via Python-list wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm trying to install a binary package (tensorflow) which contains
>> some binary C extensions. Now my system glibc is 2.15 but the binaries
>> in the C extensions were created (apparentl
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 05:15 am, Stefan Ram wrote:
> It computing newsgroups, for example, people
> ask about how to compute the number of digits
> of a number, when, actually, only numerals
> (representations of numbers in a particular
> numeral system) have digits.
Um, yes? That's implici
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 04:24 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:52:04 PM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
>> Rustom Mody wrote:
>>
>> > I said: In that case please restate the definition of 'is' from the manual
>> > which invokes the notion of 'memory' without bringing in memo
On 9/6/2017 9:26 PM, Christopher Reimer wrote:
On Sep 6, 2017, at 9:14 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
I can run this (your code) without an error here (Python 3.6.0),
from a file named "Scraper1.py":
I'll check tomorrow. I recently switched from 3.5.x to 3.6.1 in the PyCharm
IDE. It's probably FU
On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 7:39:38 AM UTC+5:30, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 04:24 am, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:52:04 PM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> >> Rustom Mody wrote:
> >>
> >> > I said: In that case please restate the definition of
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>
>> Can you show an actual false positive (two distinct objects for which `is`
>> returns True) or false negative (the same object given as both operands for
>> `is` nevertheless returns False)? In the absence of any actual bugs in the
>> definit
Hi
I'm working with gettext and need to define a language Fallback. I got this
working, but with a global variable. I don't really like this and I would like
to pass this variable to the gettext Fallback's contructor, but I don't know
how. For simplicity, I won't put the whole code here, just t
Hello,
i need to wait for the callback function (contractDetailsEnd) to finish before
i can continue with the logic ( in subscribe) further. For that i check the
flag (ContractsUpdatedEnd) in the "while" loop.
Here is the simplified code:
import asyncio
import ibapi
from tws_async import TWSCl
Gregory Ewing :
> There is more leeway when it comes to immutable objects;
> implementations are free to cache and re-use them, so well-written
> code avoids depending on the result of "is" for immutable objects.
I definitely trust that:
a = b
assert a is b
even when b holds an immutable o
Josef Meile wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm working with gettext and need to define a language Fallback. I got
> this working, but with a global variable. I don't really like this and I
> would like to pass this variable to the gettext Fallback's contructor, but
> I don't know how. For simplicity, I won't pu
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