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Eric, thank you for the review. I have incorporated proposed changes in second
version of the patch.
Concerning the question whether it is a bug, it also smells like a bug to me,
but Guido said 13 years ago that this should not be changed:
https://mail.python.org
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Eric, the "rule" that classes don't play the nested scopes game is explained at
beginning of the same section, but the explanation is "one sided" it only
explains that names defined in classes are not visible inside functions.
Nick, t
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uses "yield from" syntax, binding of yield inside comprehensions/generator
expressions could lead to unexpected results/confusing behavior. See for
example this question on
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Links to Python library documentation such as:
http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html
http://docs.python.org/library/itertools.html
http://docs.python.org/library/functools.html
etc.
are automatically forwarded to the Python 2 versions, namely to:
https
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and if not (like for http://docs.python.org/library/fpformat.html) then
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The documentation on execution model
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/executionmodel.html contains the statement
"""
A class definition is an executable statement that may use and define names.
These references follow the normal rules for name
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The matrix multiplication operator @ is going to be introduced in Python 3.5
and I am thinking about the following idea:
The semantics of matrix multiplication is the composition of the corresponding
linear transformations.
A linear transformation is a
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Since no one proposed alternative ideas, I am submitting my proposal as a
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"""
A class definition is an executable statement that may use and define names.
Free variables follow the normal rules for name resolution
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> Using `__wrapped__` if present sounds like a good idea.
Yeah, I like this idea, this will likely cover most use cases (since most
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Thanks for reporting!
I spent some time thinking about this and I can't find any reasonable way of
doing this, sorry. Anyway, let's keep this open, maybe someone will come up
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There is an (old) similar proposal https://github.com/python/typing/issues/402
btw.
Taking into account that this can be made only in 3.9, what is the benefit over
``from __future__ import annotations`` (that one can use already) do you see?
IMO there are
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> Maybe any upcoming python version could store this information in __local__ ?
> So maybe we could clone this ticket to the python core in order to address
> this?
I would say it is a too big change, and it is unlikely to happen only for the
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> Maybe any upcoming python version could store this information in __local__ ?
> So maybe we could clone this ticket to the python core in order to address
> this?
I would say it is a too big change, and it is un
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> I anyway always wonder, why functions, which are methods, do not hold a
> reference to the class, which they belong to.
This may indeed be a useful feature on its own, but it will also require a much
more wider disc
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As Serhiy explained, there is no bug here, _potentially_ we could change AST so
that attribute name (i.e. "b" in "a.b") is wrapped in a special node holding
the position info (similar to ``ast.arg``), but it is a breaking change and i
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Yes, it is unfortunately hard to support with the new design. Also note that
this was previously discussed at https://github.com/python/typing/issues/629. I
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> So, my request is: In the sections for the IO/TextIO/BinaryIO and
> Pattern/Match classes, include text warning the user that these types are not
> imported when you do `from typing import *`.
I don't think this should really be a warning,
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The downside however is that exception messages can become very long. So I am
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If you would like to propose a doc fix, then please go ahead and make a PR.
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Actually Serhiy is right, I just checked and found this sentence:
```
Alternatively, annotate your generator as having a return type of either
Iterable[YieldType] or Iterator[YieldType]
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The docs for typing module are clear about this:
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Using a generic class without specifying type parameters assumes Any for each
position.
```
There is also an example involving a base class.
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IMO 3.10 would be better, since 3.9 would be too soon (it would be like a
schedule for a normal deprecation).
Also if we are really doing this, I think it is better to announce this soon.
Also we should try to fix relevant issues related to string
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> Was it mistake to make isinstance(list[int], type) returning True?
What was the motivation for this? At first glance returning True looks wrong.
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We already have https://github.com/python/typing/issues/508 for "smart"
`get_type_hints()` that would use LBYL. Also we had a similar discussion about
PathLike, and ultimately decided not to make `typing` a place for generic
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> I'm not sure what can be done with this. The problem is that the decorator
> doesn't know what's in the caller's namespace. The type being added is
> "typing.Any". If the caller doesn't import typing, then get_t
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No objections from me assuming you are going forward along the way proposed by
Serhiy (i.e. only skip values for certain fields if value is the default, not a
blanket skip for all Nones and empty lists
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> So why is it bad that in the example class B is considered a "subclass" of
> os.PathLike by implementing the protocol?
This is not bad, my understanding of the problem is that currently B is
considered a subclass of A, while the latt
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The PEP 544 specifies that:
A protocol can be used as a second argument in isinstance() and issubclass()
only if it is explicitly opt-in by @runtime_checkable decorator.
It is not specified exactly whether this should be enforced by static type
checkers
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Cross-ref to the typing issue https://github.com/python/typing/issues/593. It
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I see the point in using ``__class_getitem__`` in Python classes too, we can
probably start using a dummy method returning class object itself now. Also PEP
585 already has a long list of candidates for "proper" ``__class_getitem__``
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This issue came up few times before (although I can't find an issue here on
b.p.o., maybe it was on typing-sig list). Although in micro-benchmarks the
impact may seem big, in vast majority of applications it is rarely more that a
percent or so.
O
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> Once PEP 585 is implemented these should be rolled back and replaced with
> that, right?
I would say that ideally yes.
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FWIW I like the idea. There are many objects in typing module that are not
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I think it should return empty tuple: First, for consistency with other things
like get_args(Tuple) == () and get_args(List) == (). Second, although Callable
is equivalent to Callable[..., Any] in the static world, authors of some
runtime checkers might
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Oh my, this looks like another bug. I don't have Python 3.8 at hand so just
tried `typing_inspect` on Python 3.6. I think this may be caused by the "double
use" of _GenericAlias for which you ope
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> But this behavior is not specified and is not covered by tests.
FWIW, to be most close to the static type checkers behavior, both D[int][str]
and D[int, str] should fail for D = Dict[T, List]. Not important however, since
this is a really rare cor
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Yes, this is as expected. A recommended workaround is to define a type alias
like `Match = re.Match` before the class body. You can also suppress the
exception with `from __future__ import annotations` (so that the annotations
are not evaluated), but
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This is actually a specified behavior (motivated by memory savings for class
objects, that are already pretty large). If you scroll down the link you posted
it says:
> Note that if annotations are not found statically, then the
> ``__annotat
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> TypedDict could preserve its original bases in a new dunder attribute, and
> get_type_hints could work off of that instead of MRO when it is dealing with
> a
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