RE: [Groff] DESC question

2005-02-21 Thread Ted Harding
till be able to set this information in the environment variable GROFF_FONT_PATH: for an explanation of this and similar things see "man groff". Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 21-Feb-05

RE: [Groff] The quest for a high-end typesetting system: A few q

2005-03-10 Thread Ted Harding
n text inside the ".KF ... .KE", then the page number attached to the index entry will be the page number on which the "keep" was first encountered, and not the page number on which it is printed. It is possible to work round things like this, but it can be subtle! Hoping th

RE: [Groff] questions about postscript and tex/latex output

2005-03-11 Thread Ted Harding
aracters, and detailed specifications of font changes, etc. This is all at a much lower level than what TeX source code corresponds to, and a postprocessor to generate TeX source would have to undo a lot of this. (In passing, I wonder what one might call such a post

RE: [Groff] developers only?

2005-03-29 Thread Ted Harding
velopment" types of topics, but that's just how it happened. If you're a beginner, just ask your questions. We will all do our best to help. Best wishes, Ted. -------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [Groff] developers only?

2005-03-29 Thread Ted Harding
; as well, so that the automatic expansion of inter-word spaces which normally cause the line to be filled out to its full length does not take place. The other things are explained in the lyrics. Note in particular the blank line following ".sp" in the input file. Hoping t

Re: [Groff] developers only?

2005-03-30 Thread Ted Harding
On 29-Mar-05 Ted Harding wrote: > On 29-Mar-05 Otavio Exel wrote: >> [...] >> I'm using -me and groff 1.17.2 (debian stable); > > I'll make a suggestion. This uses the 'ms' macros (which > I'm more familiar with than 'me' so I know what

RE: [Groff] Spam from list member addresses

2005-03-31 Thread Ted Harding
On 31-Mar-05 Peter Schaffter wrote: > Hi. > > I got two pornographic-sounding spams today, one apparently from > Werner, the other apparently from Ted Harding. Rather than wait to > see if these are isolated incidents, I'm cut 'n' pasting both > emails with full

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-01 Thread Ted Harding
ng is done by specialised macros in whatever macro package you happen to be using. See for instance "module ref, Refer support" in s.tmac. In the past I've had to rewrite this stuff to make it adapt to a different style! In the end I switched to a different approach, based on Tim Bud

RE: [Groff] Using pic/groff/gs to produce gif/jpeg

2005-05-11 Thread Ted Harding
file, with the result that you may get parts of letters (e.g. descenders) clipped off. Again, I have edited the ghostscript scripts to allow a little extra margin so as to avoid this, but I find that the BoundingBox method described above is better, as well as being more flexible (e.g. you can us

RE: [Groff] Spam apparently from list -- again

2005-06-03 Thread Ted Harding
e are getting persistent (and very specific) spam from that domain. I'm no expert on the inner workings of all this sort of thing, and not being list administrator I can't foind out about #1. So I can only suggest ... ! Best wishes, Ted. -

Re: [Groff] serious pdfroff problems

2005-06-16 Thread Ted Harding
ertheless it is clear that the two kinds of invocation cause /bin/bash to behave differently. I'm no expert on the details of differences between /bin/bash and /bin/sh -> /bin/bash, still less on differences between bin/someshell and bin/sh -> /bin/someshell, but I think that the possible dif

Re: [Groff] Horizontal rule w/ length a fraction of the page wid

2005-07-15 Thread Ted Harding
points. This is still rather imperceptible in real life, but it makes the point, and in a different context it could matter visibly. But there are no absolute rules for all occasions. You have to think about the magnitude of what can happen. Best wishes, Ted.

RE: [Groff] Surface Integral in eqn

2005-08-17 Thread Ted Harding
uot;\Z'\h'0.04n'\v'-0.8n'\D'c 0.5n''\[is]"}}% .EN or put the material between ".EQ" and ".EN" in your .../tmac/eqnrc file. Example (with the above already defined): .EQ I Sint sub S f(x) ~ dS .EN Hoping this helps, Best wishes, Ted.

Re: [Groff] Line fragments with .TS and .PSPIC

2005-08-20 Thread Ted Harding
often succeeded with it, but without ever being quite sure why!). Maybe others know better ... Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 20-Aug-05 Time: 15:51:56

Re: [Groff] Line fragments with .TS and .PSPIC

2005-08-24 Thread Ted Harding
$3'T' \{\ .ds pic*Table T .\} .el \{\ .\} .. .de PE .ie '\\*[pic*Table]'T' .rm pic*Table .el \{\ .\} .. [The reason for "\\$3" is that when 'pic' does its work it computes a width and height for the graphic and replaces ".PS ..." with a lin

RE: [Groff] pic: "shaded" problem

2005-09-13 Thread Ted Harding
eight h-2*d with .se at B.se + (0,d) colored $4 box width w-2*d height h with .se at B.se + (-d,0) colored $4 box invis with .se at B.se width 1.5 height 1.0 } .PE .fam H .PS colbox(1.5, 1.0, 0.15, "green") "test" "test"

Re: [Groff] pic: "shaded" problem

2005-09-17 Thread Ted Harding
ecial "work-pound" that gpic already uses with "fill". Another feature which is missing (and I'm actually surprised that the original 'pic' did not provide for it) is the rotation of entities. E.g. box with .c at (0,0) rotate 30 for a box rotated t

RE: [Groff] moving TOC to start

2005-09-27 Thread Ted Harding
TOC for pages 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, and 9, which appears at the start of the final document. The individual pages 1-9 simply have "Page 1" , ... , "Page 9" on them! Hoping this is useful, Ted. --

RE: [Groff] slack4, groff and ps

2005-10-16 Thread Ted Harding
o give På øen i søen vi kan få en sæt -- Ålborgs Akvavit med en Carlsbergs øl (but everyone settles on their own preferred details for that kind of thing). Good luck with the installation, and welcome to groff! Please ask to this list any questions you need to get going. Best wishes, Ted.

RE: Printer memory [Was: RE: [Groff] slack4, groff and ps]

2005-10-16 Thread Ted Harding
On 16-Oct-05 Daniel de Kok wrote: > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, (Ted Harding) wrote: >> The only thing I specially did (and indeed have done ever since), >> since the machine was so weak, was to buy a PostScript printer. >> With that, the PostScript output from groff went straight

RE: [Groff] PS and "page background"

2005-10-17 Thread Ted Harding
r system will support it). so that you have a file house.eps Then you can write your document: .LP .ce \f[BI]\s[20]Desirable Residence at Øresund\s0\fP .sp .LP This attractive house near the beach at Øresund ... [some tempting stuff] .PSPIC house.eps 152c .ce \fBFrontal Elevation of the Property\

Re: [Groff] PS and "page background"

2005-10-17 Thread Ted Harding
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Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-18 Thread Ted Harding
e, and for all that I recognise the protection that GPL etc. provide for these principles, I'm also a devotee of Freedom From Bureaucracy! (This also connects to UTP, which Meg mentioned, and I'll post separately about that when I've had a bit more think ... ). Best wishes to all,

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-19 Thread Ted Harding
"I can touch-type, but I cannot touch-mouse" Best wishes to all, Ted. ------------ E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 19-Oct-05

RE: [Groff] Using groff as one's main WP/TP

2005-10-20 Thread Ted Harding
the key elements of good typesetting. Especially when they want to do something "difficult" ... Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax

RE: [Groff] RE: PS and "page background"

2005-10-21 Thread Ted Harding
, the fact that troff was capable of general-purpose document formatting is what saved Unix from being dropped as a project, pre-1970! Best wihes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-t

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread Ted Harding
rs. The preferences stated above are mine. I don't expect others to share them: they should be free -- and enabled -- to adopt their own preferences. Likewise, so should I be (and anyone else who happens to share mine). Best wishes to all, Ted. --

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread Ted Harding
ain, I'm not particularly criticising groff.texinfo, which does seem to be pretty good as far as I can judge it. It's more to do with the general "access route" into info. I confess to having the same sort of problem with GUI menus -- it requires remembering, or groping for, a p

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-22 Thread Ted Harding
y trick would help much on that front (and in fact setting it up was made easy by having the final form in front of me; not so easy to do it "blind"). On the other hand, using simple groff macros for the font switches doesn't cause me any problems at all .. I wonder why ...? Best wishes

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-23 Thread Ted Harding
On 23-Oct-05 Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 11:45:50PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: >> Well, if you're using vim ... > > I do. > >> First enter the following (in command mode) to define abbreviations: >> >> :ab > [cut a lot

RE: [Groff] Foxit PDF Reader

2005-10-23 Thread Ted Harding
oks as though the binary may be called "AcroRd32" in Windows. Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 23-Oc

RE: [Groff] Drawing filled circle segments

2005-10-25 Thread Ted Harding
setting up a little stanza in PostScript which would be invoked to draw the necessary item, though making sure that it was placed at the roght point and at the right angle would need careful watching. I will try to invent one, but probably others will beat me to it! Best wishes, Ted.

Re: [Groff] Drawing filled circle segments

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
#x27;0.5i'_in the middle of it. .sp 1i That was a line with a bar-chart. Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 28-Oct-05

Re: [Groff] Drawing filled circle segments

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
[OOPS] On 28-Oct-05 Ted Harding wrote: > [...] > .LP > \& > .sp 1i > This is a line with_\h'0.5i'\ > \*[wedge 36 1.0 0.0 0.0 000 045]\ > \*[wedge 36 0.5 0.5 0.0 045 100]\ > \*[wedge 36 0.0 1.0 0.0 100 170]\ > \*[wedge 36 0.0 0.5 0.5 170 250]\ > \*[wedg

Re: [Groff] Drawing filled circle segments

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
27;\ \*[wedge 36 1.0 0.0 0.0 000 045]\ \*[wedge 36 0.5 0.5 0.0 045 100]\ \*[wedge 36 0.0 1.0 0.0 100 170]\ \*[wedge 36 0.0 0.5 0.5 170 250]\ \*[wedge 36 0.0 0.0 1.0 250 360]\ \h'0.5i'_in the middle of it. .sp 1i That was a line with a bar-chart. Ted. ----------

Re: [Groff] Drawing filled circle segments

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
it. .sp 1i That was a line with a pie-chart. Best wishes, Ted. ------------ E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 28-Oct-05 Time: 17:04:29 -- XFMail

Re: [Groff] Drawing filled circle segments

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
'\ \*[wedge.01]\ \*[wedge.02]\ \*[wedge.03]\ \*[wedge.04]\ \*[wedge.05] which just about sums it up ("Red" is the guy who gets to prepare this stuff; and he's leaving for a better job soon ... ). Of course, if you think the impact should be different, you can re-calculate

RE: [Groff] Groff wiki?

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
contributions. In any case (as has become apparent to me following the discussion on the ALUG wiki), there is a need for regular and frequent back-up of the contents, so that things can be rolled back if necessary. Just some thoughts ... I like the idea, but feel wary! Best wishes to all, Ted.

Re: [Groff] Groff wiki?

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
.uk/main/2005-October/thread.html scroll down (it's fairly near the top) to thread: [ALUG] WiKi Status Enquiry Keith Watson and follow it down. I confess I am no sort of expert whatever on the technicalities behind wikis, so eom of that material was over my head. Best wishes to all, Ted.

Re: [Groff] Drawing filled circle segments

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
therwise wouldn't do). [code snipped] Also very nice! (in both versions). Ted ---- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 28-Oct-05 Time: 22:12:50 -- XFMail -

Re: [Groff] Groff wiki?

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
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Re: [Groff] Groff wiki?

2005-10-28 Thread Ted Harding
Bibliografische Verweiselen you see it says that 'lbl' does "Subtitles/captions for tables and figures" -- which is not quite right (see my earlier post) but in the right area. Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail

Re: [Groff] Drawing filled circle segments

2005-10-30 Thread Ted Harding
27;3i-\\*[x0]'\D'P \ \\*[dx] -\\*[dy] \\*[dh] 0 \\*[dx] \\*[dy] \ -\\*[dx] \\*[dy] -\\*[dh] 0 -\\*[dx] -\\*[dy]'' .PS T for j = 1 to 10 do { i = 11-j command ".ds gray " sprintf("%.0f", 1316 - sqrt(10*i)) command ".ds x0 " sprintf("%0.3fi",(0.5+cos(pi/3))*sqrt(4*i/10)) c

[Groff] Test -- apologies

2005-11-01 Thread Ted Harding
Please excuse this test which I need to carry out. Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 01-Nov-05 Time: 11

RE: [Groff] maintain status b/w pic figures

2005-11-03 Thread Ted Harding
is clearly incorrect, so correct it with .PS k = 20 circles(0.5,20) .PE Best wishes, Ted. -------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 03-Nov-05

[Groff] "creep" and booklets

2005-11-03 Thread Ted Harding
en need to be attached together. For this, it's not ideal if each signature was stapled. Any recommendations for (a) making the central attachment for a signature instead of stapling; (b) binding signatures together? With thanks, and best wishes to all, Ted. ---

Re: [Groff] "creep" and booklets

2005-11-04 Thread Ted Harding
On 04-Nov-05 Bob Diertens wrote: > On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 12:01:12AM -0000, Ted Harding wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'd welcome views and contributions about the following. >> >> It concerns making a "booklet" out of a PS document. >> >&g

Re: [Groff] Typesetting arbitrary fractions?

2005-11-05 Thread Ted Harding
ier (though not quite bold), as confirmed in the third test. So that's the basics of doing it, but clearly you have to watch out for detail depending on the environment. Best wishes to all, Ted. ---

RE: [Groff] gs, gv

2005-11-06 Thread Ted Harding
lution for this screen > or will that work out automatically with the vga16 server > /Mikkel > > /Mikkel My best suggestion is that you should subscribe to a good Linux list (if you are not already on one), and discuss your problem in detail there. Good luck! Ted.

RE: [Groff] Macro arguments question

2005-11-13 Thread Ted Harding
right. > > 2. If not, is there a different, quick-and-easy/dirty way > to do it? > > Any opinions out there?> Maybe see above ... ? Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding)

RE: [Groff] picture placing

2005-11-14 Thread Ted Harding
#\*[mypic] Row2 Col1#Row2 Col2# ... .TE The "\Z'...'" in \*[mypic] means that drawing the picture will cause no displacement of the printing position from the point where it was initiated, so should not mess up anything. And, in other contexts, you can use the same "\Z'.

RE: [Groff] u1D53C glyph

2005-11-16 Thread Ted Harding
o you can do similar, with whatever font you choose as base, giving the result whatever name you like. Hoping this helps, Ted. -------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 16-Nov-05

Re: [Groff] u1D53C glyph

2005-11-16 Thread Ted Harding
ode copied from Program 16 in the "PostScript Language Tutorial and Cookbook" (so-called "blue book") from Adobe. Well worth having by you, for little things like this. Best wishes, Ted. -------- E-Mail: (Ted Hard

RE: [Groff] string variable in pic

2005-12-11 Thread Ted Harding
n the numerical values of the color components. > In this case one could define a new color which is sometimes darker or > more > bright, or "more red" etc. This can be used to produce shaded colored > boxes > in pic. > > Hope I get help > Regards > Heinz >

Re: [Groff] string variable in pic

2005-12-11 Thread Ted Harding
hed. > Is the only way extending pic to accept strings in expressions, or at > least > in variable assignments? > > Regards >Heinz I have found out a way to do it -- essentially, you use the macro mechanism, but the trick is to

Re: [Groff] Floating point arithmetic in groff

2006-01-31 Thread Ted Harding
21 35.50745.50 9 11.99107.91 27 46.25 1248.75 --- 2196.66 The reason that "| awk '

RE: [Groff] Re: begin page blues

2006-02-18 Thread Ted Harding
bcolor'\ Hello2 Hello3 \X'ps: exec 0 0 0 setrgbcolor' .br Hello1 Hello2 Hello3 so as to "hide" the LF, or as Hello1 \X'ps: exec 1 0 0 setrgbcolor'Hello2 Hello3 \X'ps: exec 0 0 0 setrgbcolor' .br Hello1 Hello2 Hello3 Hoping this helps with your real

Re: [Groff] Re: begin page blues

2006-02-22 Thread Ted Harding
g the functionality of the pre-processors within the troff binary. Nevertheless, I have to admit that this attitude may well be a consequence of "youthful" experiences a long time ago, when (as indeed now) this was the only way to do that sort of thing, and once you have taken the trou

[Groff] List delays

2006-02-23 Thread Ted Harding
. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 22-Feb-06 Time: 11:00:58 -- XFMail -- ___ Groff mailing list

[Groff] RE: List delays

2006-02-23 Thread Ted Harding
On 22-Feb-06 Ted Harding wrote: > On 22-Feb-06 Ted Harding wrote: >> It seems, looking at the headers of recent mails to >> the list, that postings to the groff list are being >> delayed at lists.gnu.org by 6-12 hours, typically >> over 9 hours. >> >> Is

RE: [Groff] Help: male and female symbols?

2006-02-24 Thread Ted Harding
7;u/2u'\ \v'-\w'\[ci]'u/6u'\h'-\w'\[ci]'u/4u'\ \D'l \w'\[ci]'u/2u 0'''\h'\w'\[ci]'u' .LP \s[20]Male Symbol: MM\[MS]MM\s0 .sp .LP \s[20]Female Symbol: MM\[FS]MM\s0 (Using ms macrosm and enclosing the sy

[Groff] RE: List delays

2006-02-25 Thread Ted Harding
On 22-Feb-06 Ted Harding wrote: > It seems, looking at the headers of recent mails to > the list, that postings to the groff list are being > delayed at lists.gnu.org by 6-12 hours, typically > over 9 hours. > > Is this (as I hope) a temporary phenomenon? > > Best wis

RE: [Groff] incorrect position of 'caron' glyph??

2006-03-07 Thread Ted Harding
would be identical, and may or may not be good. d) If you want "perfect" results, then ideally, when defining groff code for composite characters, you should define each character individually and fine-tune the positioning. Whether you need to do thi

Re: [Groff] Re: Composed glyphs - quick and dirty solution

2006-03-07 Thread Ted Harding
module acc" ("accents and special characters") in s.tmac, with a much extended ".AM" macro. I would indeed recommend this code to people who need to create composite characters which are not otherwise catered for. Best wishes to all, Ted

RE: [Groff] More arguments, please :-)

2006-03-10 Thread Ted Harding
mply redefine 'mysp' whenever you like, without redefining 'blm'. This is almost as compact as redefining .blm sp 6 say, every time. Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMA

RE: [Groff] PS printing - was Re: `Idot' vs. `Idotaccent'

2006-03-10 Thread Ted Harding
of where people think this discussion is heading. And why. Best wishes to all, Ted. ---- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 10-Mar-06

RE: [Groff] Re: Composed glyphs - quick and dirty solution

2006-03-10 Thread Ted Harding
need the skew of the "under" glyph to compute this; and the skew of the "over" glyph is (in most cases) not relevant. Without this, "italic c circumflex", say, might not look too bad; but "italic l circumflex" would look terrible. Best wishes to all, Ted. ---

RE: [Groff] Adding fonts to groff -- instructions?

2006-03-11 Thread Ted Harding
to the list of fonts in the same line. 11. TEST IT! =========== Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> F

RE: [Groff] Looping and printing indices in groff

2006-03-13 Thread Ted Harding
ing? .nr NN 0 1 .while \n+[NN]<255 \n[NN]\0\N'\n[NN]'\0\0 is one way. Best wishes, Ted. ------------ E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 13-Mar-06

RE: [Groff] Adding fonts to groff -- instructions?

2006-03-13 Thread Ted Harding
On 13-Mar-06 Robert Marks wrote: > Ted suggests adding the font to /font/devps/DESC (see below). > What is the purpose of this? > I haven't done it and things seem to work, but perhaps I'm missing > something. > >>From: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &

RE: [Groff] gtroff & soelim don't recognize ~ in paths

2006-04-09 Thread Ted Harding
nd it, and reports as such. I think the is correct in principle, though I'm not sure about some of the implied detail. Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [Groff] PDF printing coming

2006-04-21 Thread Ted Harding
dvatages with it. Unless, of course, we can gain the same control over PDF as we have over PS (see above). Just my thoughts ... Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[E

Re: [Groff] PDF printing coming

2006-04-21 Thread Ted Harding
On 21-Apr-06 Peter Schaffter wrote: > Ted -- > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006, Ted Harding wrote: >> I harbour fears that this proposed move towards PDF as the >> standard indicates an impending domination of the capable >> by the challenged. > > Is "domination of t

RE: [Groff] Survey on Document Creation Software

2006-05-02 Thread Ted Harding
org/ > to vote for your favourite. Well, with 52 votes just now [3%], groff now weighs in at No 3 (after OpenOffice with 878 [53%] and TeX with 507 [31%]), if one excludes "Other Commercial". Best wishes to all, Ted. ----------

RE: [Groff] Math symbol upside down?

2006-05-05 Thread Ted Harding
find that both \(~= and \(~~ map to PostScript "approxequal" which is your "pair of tildes". Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date:

Re: [Groff] Math symbol upside down?

2006-05-06 Thread Ted Harding
; (b) you can change the zoom factor on the fly; (c) if you really want to see what's going on at a particular place you can outline it with the mouse and zoom it up. Well, it's good that the problem got solved! Best wishes, Ted. -----------

RE: [Groff] Meeting Werner

2006-05-09 Thread Ted Harding
evel of inspiration! Best wishes to all, Ted. -------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 09-May-06 Time: 14:08:49 -- XFMail -- ___

Re: [Groff] Meeting Werner

2006-05-10 Thread Ted Harding
omain, with a basically > empty web page. Probably only the associated email address is really > in use. Try a ggogle search using "groff family" ... there are more about than one might think! Ted. ---

Re: [Groff] Meeting Werner

2006-05-10 Thread Ted Harding
tructure for Longhorn ... " and it zeems likely that they are the same person -- and a "he"! Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 10-May-06 Time: 09:13:58

RE: [Groff] Inline evaluation of calculations?

2006-05-11 Thread Ted Harding
n%+1 is 2 (correct since this is page 1). Best wishes, Ted. ------------ E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 11-May-06 Time: 1

RE: [Groff] Sun's troff now available

2006-06-24 Thread Ted Harding
thing worth cherry-picking. :-) Fascinating, Larry! There are some interesting things illustrated in the PDFs on the site -- see e.g. http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/doctools/troffdemo.pdf http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/doctools/fonts.pdf Thanks. Ted. ----------

Re: [Groff] Sun's troff now available

2006-06-26 Thread Ted Harding
ed output line (since the mechanism I describe above amounts to this, but riding a mule to climb the mountain rather than taking the helicopter). Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted

Re: [Groff] Sun's troff now available

2006-06-26 Thread Ted Harding
On 26-Jun-06 Peter Schaffter wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006, Ted Harding wrote: > [...] >> Once again, I suspect that all this kind of thing could be >> helped by pre-output access to the finally formatted output >> line (since the mechanism I describe above amounts to this,

Re: [Groff] Sun's troff now available

2006-06-27 Thread Ted Harding
On 27-Jun-06 Peter Schaffter wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2006, Ted Harding wrote: >> > FWIW, back in the Museum, even though galleys were set from >> > what amounted to "source files", the workstations had a >> > continuously updating "status line"

RE: [Groff] Spam

2006-07-02 Thread Ted Harding
ry case, the 6 or so I have checked do not resolve. Hence, I wonder if this amouts to gnu.org acting as an open relay? Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTE

RE: [Groff] making tbl created tables fit on the paper

2006-07-04 Thread Ted Harding
> > Any tips would be appreciated. If you could give us a clearer picture of the table layout and of the extent of excess, that might help to focus ideas. Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> F

RE: [Groff] Rules drawn with \D are rounded

2006-07-10 Thread Ted Harding
are of the same thickness (it may be that this little complication is the reason for rounding the ends of rules. For polygons (filled or unfilled), normally '0 setlinejoin'. This can produce unwanted results with sharp angles and thick lines, but I can't otherwise think of a reason

[Groff] groff on GNU

2006-07-13 Thread Ted Harding
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Re: [Groff] groff on GNU

2006-07-13 Thread Ted Harding
On 13-Jul-06 Werner LEMBERG wrote: > [about the contents of www.gnu.org] > >> I feel this should be changed! > > Please go forth and submit changes to the website maintainers! > > Werner OK, will do! Ted. -----

Re: [Groff] Line length and page offset in MS

2006-07-26 Thread Ted Harding
t values of \n[PO] and \n[LL], you do (e.g.) .po 3c \"instead of default 1i .nr PO 3c \"or .nr PO \n[.o] .ll 12c \"instead of default 6i .nr LL \n[.l] (I have never thought twice about this -- at least not for a very long time -- since I got into the habit of it with sqtroff back in 1

Re: [Groff] patch for pdfroff

2006-07-31 Thread Ted Harding
http://ftp.ee.surrey.ac.uk/papers/AI/L.Gillam/bs_tea.pdf Best wishes, Ted. -------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 31-Jul-06

Re: [Groff] patch for pdfroff

2006-08-01 Thread Ted Harding
On 01-Aug-06 Keith MARSHALL wrote: > Ted Harding wrote: >> I recommend as a definitive example the instructions contained in >> British Standard 6008 (BS 6008:1980, ISO 3103:1980): "Method for >> Preparation of a liquor of tea ... ", of which a PDF copy

RE: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Ted Harding
all that pften. Meanwhile, I'm comforted that groff's behavious will prevent me from getting unwanted hyphen breaks. Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EM

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-10 Thread Ted Harding
289-90 ridge technique, 298 score, 289-90 which I reckon would look better if both the range-break and the filling were turned off, giving canonical correlation analysis, 5, 281-99 contingency table, 290-3, 299 discriminant analysis, 320, 230 prediction, 289-90 ridge technique, 298

Re: [Groff] explicit hyphen and numbers

2006-08-11 Thread Ted Harding
ember ever forgetting anything :) Ted. -------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 11-Aug-06 Time: 09:33:56 -- XFMail -- _

RE: [Groff] soelim and file names defined in string registers

2006-08-18 Thread Ted Harding
e the name "t3" defined as the string fname, the equivalent would be .sy pic \*[fname] > \*[fname].temp .so \*[fname].temp .sy rm \*[fname].temp which should work. NB You must be running groff in "unsafe" mode for this, since "safe" mode suppresses m

Re: [Groff] soelim and file names defined in string registers

2006-08-18 Thread Ted Harding
t go away, but it is only one instance of a class of similar problems (see above). And you suggestion is of course on the same lines as my "mad idea" above. > would this be a good idea It could be ... ! > (apart from the someone_has_to_implement_it aspect)? ... b

RE: [Groff] help required regarding groff/psroff

2006-08-28 Thread Ted Harding
Windows system which contain this information, and you want to extract it from these file? If the latter, what sort of files are these? If you can clarify your question, someone may be able to help you! Best wishes, Ted. ------------ E-Mail:

Re: [Groff] help required regarding groff/psroff

2006-08-29 Thread Ted Harding
"suck it and see" for any specific model of HP laserjet printer. And I myself have no idea about extracting the font metrics from a non-PostScript HP printer. Best wishes, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTE

[Groff] "Cosmetic" filling

2006-08-29 Thread Ted Harding
ds are at exactly the same vertical position, to within ocular resolution! Any comments? ------------ E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 29-Aug-06

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