Re: ZFS panic in -CURRENT

2014-04-02 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 01/04/2014 16:57 R. Tyler Croy said the following: > On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:41:45 +0300 > Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> on 01/04/2014 02:22 R. Tyler Croy said the following: ... >>> Also in addition to the photo from before of the panic, here's >>> another reproduction photo: >>>

Re: kevent has bug?

2014-04-02 Thread Kohji Okuno
From: John-Mark Gurney Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 23:15:51 -0700 > Kohji Okuno wrote this message on Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:45 +0900: >> I think, kevent() has a bug. >> I tested sample programs by attached sources. >> This sample tests about EVFILT_SIGNAL. >> >> I build sample programs by the followi

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread David Chisnall
On 1 Apr 2014, at 23:10, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Audio output is pretty system dependent, but I had little problem getting > my audio to auto-switch to headphones when I plugged them in. The setup is > a bit ugly,but I only had to check the available PINs (ugly, ugly) and set > up stuff once. It j

[head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-02 06:00:42 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-02 06:00:42 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

[head tinderbox] failure on armv6/arm

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-02 06:00:42 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-02 06:00:42 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

[head tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-02 06:00:42 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-02 06:00:42 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

Re: vt text cursor invisible in reverse video

2014-04-02 Thread Claude Buisson
On 03/28/2014 19:15, Adrian Chadd wrote: Hi, Would you mind filing it as a PR? www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html kern/188196 After 19 years of FreeBSD use and not being part of any chapel/coterie/mafia I don't keep much illusion about the outcome.. CBu

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Lars Engels
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:22:32AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > On 1 Apr 2014, at 23:10, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Audio output is pretty system dependent, but I had little problem getting > > my audio to auto-switch to headphones when I plugged them in. The setup is > > a bit ugly,but I only

Adding Encryption Algorithm to Kernel

2014-04-02 Thread Shady Elhamy
Hi I am working on a project and i want to add an encryption algorithm to freeBSD kernel. What are the steps ? Which files should i change ? I have searched the internet and the forums and mailing lists, but couldn't find anything. I was hoping you could help me out. Thanks in advance, Shady __

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Jordan Hubbard
On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: > I have Macs at work (typing on one now), and a mac at home. I like them. > [ … ] > It’s just like being back in the 80s, when Unix had a desktop market, only > much, much faster. Worry not, there’s a product just for you now! http://www.macs

Re: kevent has bug?

2014-04-02 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:06:16PM +0900, Kohji Okuno wrote: > From: John-Mark Gurney > Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 23:15:51 -0700 > > Kohji Okuno wrote this message on Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:45 +0900: > >> I think, kevent() has a bug. > >> I tested sample programs by attached sources. > >> This sample

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Jordan Hubbard
On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Person, Roderick wrote: > Why aren't all the nerds and small businesses out there a market? Too few of you to justify the capital outlay. Now, if we were talking about a $1500 watch that was very nerdy and appealed to the inner James Bond in lots of non-nerds, t

make in dir

2014-04-02 Thread Konstantin Belousov
Hi, it seems that recent changes to share/mk broke the ability to do anything in subdir of the source tree. As example, on the HEAD r264012 installed yesterday: sandy% make /usr/home/pooma/build/bsd/DEV/src/tools/regression/kqueue make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.own.mk" line 436: MK_MAN can't

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Jordan Hubbard
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:11 PM, Matt Olander wrote: > This is like trying to predict automobile technology and dominant > car-makers by 1905. There's always room for competition. Take a look > at what's happening right now in the auto-industry. Tesla came out of > nowhere 125 years after the invent

Re: kevent has bug?

2014-04-02 Thread Kohji Okuno
From: Konstantin Belousov Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:07:45 +0300 > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:06:16PM +0900, Kohji Okuno wrote: >> From: John-Mark Gurney >> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 23:15:51 -0700 >> > Kohji Okuno wrote this message on Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:45 +0900: >> >> I think, kevent() has a bu

Re: Adding Encryption Algorithm to Kernel

2014-04-02 Thread Oliver Pinter
On 4/2/14, Shady Elhamy wrote: > Hi > > I am working on a project and i want to add an encryption algorithm to > freeBSD kernel. > > What are the steps ? Which files should i change ? > > I have searched the internet and the forums and mailing lists, but couldn't > find anything. I was hoping you

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 02.04.14 12:22, David Chisnall wrote: The use case that PulseAudio was [over]designed to fix was plugging in USB headphones (or connecting a Bluetooth headset) and having existing audio streams redirected there. Please don't ever make this behavior the default! Imagine, you have an audio

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread David Chisnall
On 2 Apr 2014, at 13:40, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > > On 02.04.14 12:22, David Chisnall wrote: >> The use case that PulseAudio was [over]designed to fix was plugging in USB >> headphones (or connecting a Bluetooth headset) and having existing audio >> streams redirected there. > > Please don't e

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 02.04.14 15:52, David Chisnall wrote: On 2 Apr 2014, at 13:40, Daniel Kalchev wrote: On 02.04.14 12:22, David Chisnall wrote: The use case that PulseAudio was [over]designed to fix was plugging in USB headphones (or connecting a Bluetooth headset) and having existing audio streams redir

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Kalchev
On 02.04.14 04:26, Adrian Chadd wrote: It's no longer "xorg just speaks to the graphics chip." This is a common trend in computing recently. What once required tightly integrated OS/applications is now distributed, in the widest sense. The so called "Personal Computer" is nowadays actually s

[head tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-02 09:29:19 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-02 09:29:19 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread O. Hartmann
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:10:22 -0700 Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > No, mutt, with vim as mail composer. :) > > > > +1 > > > > matthias > > > > (FreeBSD since 2.2.5 and sending this from an EeePC 900, > > netbook, UMTS connected, KDE4 desktop, sound, webcam, vim, mutt, > >

Re: make in dir

2014-04-02 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > Hi, > it seems that recent changes to share/mk broke the ability to do anything > in subdir of the source tree. As example, on the HEAD r264012 installed > yesterday: > > sandy% make > /usr/home/pooma/build/bsd/DEV/src/tools/r

Re: [CFT] ASLR and PIE on amd64

2014-04-02 Thread Oliver Pinter
On 4/2/14, Oliver Pinter wrote: > On 3/31/14, Shawn Webb wrote: >> On Mar 31, 2014 02:07 AM +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote: >>> On 3/22/14, Shawn Webb wrote: >>> > Hey All, >>> > >>> > First off, I hope that even as a non-committer, it's okay that I post >>> > a call for testing. If not, please excu

Re: [CFT] ASLR and PIE on amd64

2014-04-02 Thread Shawn Webb
On Apr 02, 2014 04:54 PM +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote: > On 4/2/14, Oliver Pinter wrote: > > On 3/31/14, Shawn Webb wrote: > >> On Mar 31, 2014 02:07 AM +0200, Oliver Pinter wrote: > >>> On 3/22/14, Shawn Webb wrote: > >>> > Hey All, > >>> > > >>> > First off, I hope that even as a non-committer,

[head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2014-04-02 12:51:25 - tinderbox 2.21 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2014-04-02 12:51:25 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 9.2-STABLE FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #0 r263721: Tue Mar 25 09:27:39 EDT 2014 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB --- 2014

Re: make in dir

2014-04-02 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > Hi, > it seems that recent changes to share/mk broke the ability to do anything > in subdir of the source tree. As example, on the HEAD r264012 installed > yesterday: > > sandy% make > /usr/home/pooma/build/bsd/DEV/src/tools/r

Re: kevent has bug?

2014-04-02 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Konstantin Belousov wrote this message on Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 15:07 +0300: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:06:16PM +0900, Kohji Okuno wrote: > > From: John-Mark Gurney > > Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 23:15:51 -0700 > > > Kohji Okuno wrote this message on Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:45 +0900: > > >> I think, k

Re: ZFS panic in -CURRENT

2014-04-02 Thread R. Tyler Croy
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:58:37 +0300 Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 01/04/2014 16:57 R. Tyler Croy said the following: > > On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:41:45 +0300 > > Andriy Gapon wrote: > > > >> on 01/04/2014 02:22 R. Tyler Croy said the following: > ... > >>> Also in addition to the photo from before of t

Re: Adding Encryption Algorithm to Kernel

2014-04-02 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Shady Elhamy wrote this message on Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 13:00 +0200: > I am working on a project and i want to add an encryption algorithm to > freeBSD kernel. Well, what are you going to do with the algorithm? and what algorithm are you trying to add? Currently we have two interfaces for algori

login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Sean Bruno
I'd like to make this change to login.conf for default installs. This removes some amount of hackery in the ports system that is working around our lack of UTF-8 in the base. This should be step 0 in a language agnostic installer project that is beyond the scope of making the system more useable.

Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Sean, On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:53:49AM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: S> I'd like to make this change to login.conf for default installs. S> S> This removes some amount of hackery in the ports system that is working S> around our lack of UTF-8 in the base. S> S> This should be step 0 in a language

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Matt Olander
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:11 PM, Matt Olander wrote: > >> This is like trying to predict automobile technology and dominant >> car-makers by 1905. There's always room for competition. Take a look >> at what's happening right now in the auto-in

Re: kevent has bug?

2014-04-02 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:45:43AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Konstantin Belousov wrote this message on Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 15:07 +0300: > Well, it's not that its preventing waking up the waiter, but failing to > register the event on the knote because of the _INFLUX flag... Yes, I used the

Re: make in dir

2014-04-02 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:46:34AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > Hi, > > it seems that recent changes to share/mk broke the ability to do anything > > in subdir of the source tree. As example, on the HEAD r264012 installed > > yesterd

Re: make in dir

2014-04-02 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 2, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:46:34AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:15 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> it seems that recent changes to share/mk broke the ability to do anything >>> in subdir of the sou

Re: ZFS panic in -CURRENT

2014-04-02 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 02/04/2014 19:48 R. Tyler Croy said the following: > On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:58:37 +0300 > Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> on 01/04/2014 16:57 R. Tyler Croy said the following: >>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 09:41:45 +0300 >>> Andriy Gapon wrote: >>> on 01/04/2014 02:22 R. Tyler Croy said the following

Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Benjamin Lee
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:53:49 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > I'd like to make this change to login.conf for default installs. > > This removes some amount of hackery in the ports system that is working > around our lack of UTF-8 in the base. > > This should be step 0 in a language agnostic installer

gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Butler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seems that GCC doesn't like/understand the cast .. imb@mail:/usr/src/lib/libc> sudo make cc -O2 -pipe -march=pentium4 -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include - -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libc/i386 -DNLS - -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -I/usr/src

r264048 broke kernel build

2014-04-02 Thread O. Hartmann
r264048 breaks kernel build ( sys/kern/kern_et.c) , r264047 builds perfectly ... rm -f .newdep make -V CFILES_NOZFS -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES | MKDEP_CPP="cc -E" CC="cc " xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -pipe -O3 -fno-strict-aliasing -march=native -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-exte

Re: r264048 broke kernel build

2014-04-02 Thread hiren panchasara
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:16 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: > > r264048 breaks kernel build ( sys/kern/kern_et.c) , r264047 builds perfectly > ... +1. cheers, Hiren > > rm -f .newdep > make -V CFILES_NOZFS -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES | MKDEP_CPP="cc -E" > CC="cc " xargs > mkdep -a -f .newdep -pipe

Re: r264048 broke kernel build

2014-04-02 Thread hiren panchasara
+ Ian On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:17 PM, hiren panchasara wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:16 PM, O. Hartmann > wrote: >> >> r264048 breaks kernel build ( sys/kern/kern_et.c) , r264047 builds perfectly >> ... > > +1. > > cheers, > Hiren >> >> rm -f .newdep >> make -V CFILES_NOZFS -V SYSTEM_CFIL

Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Antoine Brodin
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Sean Bruno wrote: > I'd like to make this change to login.conf for default installs. > > This removes some amount of hackery in the ports system that is working > around our lack of UTF-8 in the base. > > This should be step 0 in a language agnostic installer projec

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-02 Thread David Chisnall
Hi, I'm trying to reproduce this, but I don't seem to be able to get the same error as you. I do get a warning with GCC about a cast to an anonymous struct, which the attached patch fixes, but even without this I'm able to build both with the gcc in 9 and the gcc in ports. Can you let me know

Build failed in Jenkins: FreeBSD_HEAD #388

2014-04-02 Thread jenkins-admin
See Changes: [ian] Fix build breakage. Apparently all ARM configs build kern_et.c, but only a few of them also build kern_clocksource.c. That strikes me as insane, but maybe there's a good reason for it. Until I figure that ou

Re: r264048 broke kernel build

2014-04-02 Thread Ian Lepore
Sorry about that, hopefully I've fixed it for now with r264054 (but whenever you're checking in a fix for a fix you're on pretty shakey ground). This is a temporary workaround while I spend a few days rewriting some legacy arm code to fix the problem for real. -- Ian On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 19:18

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-02 Thread Michael Butler
On 04/02/14 15:30, David Chisnall wrote: > I'm trying to reproduce this, but I don't seem to be able to get the > same error as you. I do get a warning with GCC about a cast to an > anonymous struct, which the attached patch fixes, but even without > this I'm able to build both with the gcc in 9

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-02 Thread David Chisnall
On 2 Apr 2014, at 20:53, Michael Butler wrote: > cc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] > > .. on .. > > FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #22 r263969: Mon Mar 31 10:45:56 EDT 2014 > > Splitting it like .. > > - fn.fn_ptr.cxa_func = (void(*)(void*))GET_BLOCK_FUNCTION(func); > + fn.fn_ptr.cx

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:58:21PM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > > Well, I wouldn't object to that, but it would be good to fix this - we > still want to be able to build the base system with gcc (or another > compiler), even if we don't encourage it... Who is "we" in "even if we don't encourage

[head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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[head tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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[head tinderbox] failure on armv6/arm

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-02 Thread David Chisnall
On 2 Apr 2014, at 21:21, Steve Kargl wrote: > Who is "we" in "even if we don't encourage it..."? "We" is the FreeBSD project, collectively. For a larger list of things that "we" recommend, look at the src.conf man page, which contains a long list of things that we encourage, codified as the

[head tinderbox] failure on mips/mips

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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[head tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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[head tinderbox] failure on mips64/mips

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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[head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:46:19PM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: > On 2 Apr 2014, at 21:21, Steve Kargl > wrote: > > > Who is "we" in "even if we don't encourage it..."? > > "We" is the FreeBSD project, collectively. For a larger list of > things that "we" recommend, There is a significant

[head tinderbox] failure on powerpc64/powerpc

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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[head tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Andrey Chernov
On 02.04.2014 21:15, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > S> + :lang=en_US.UTF-8:\ > S> + :charset=UTF-8: > > And I'd like to do same change for the 'russian' login class > in /etc/login.conf. Please everybody remember that we don't have UTF-8 collation implemented, just fallback to bytecode comparison. --

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Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article <1396457629.2280.2.ca...@powernoodle.corp.yahoo.com>, sbr...@freebsd.org writes: >I'd like to make this change to login.conf for default installs. > >This removes some amount of hackery in the ports system that is working >around our lack of UTF-8 in the base. I'm not sure what the con

Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Sean Bruno
On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 18:06 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > In article <1396457629.2280.2.ca...@powernoodle.corp.yahoo.com>, > sbr...@freebsd.org writes: > > >I'd like to make this change to login.conf for default installs. > > > >This removes some amount of hackery in the ports system that is wor

Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:56:35PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > I have been informed by folks that this change I suggest would help in > the case of ports having to declare UTF-8 support explicitly or > something. Clearly ports that need to do this are broken -- but this very much an edge-case of br

Re: gcc compilation broken with SVN r264042

2014-04-02 Thread Warner Losh
On Apr 2, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Michael Butler wrote: > /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/atexit.c: In function 'atexit_b': > /usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/atexit.c:157: error: cannot convert to a > pointer type > *** Error code 1 This also breaks mips*, sparc64, armeb and ia64. I’ve seen the carping about disco

[head tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98

2014-04-02 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
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Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Wills
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:56:35PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 18:06 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > In article <1396457629.2280.2.ca...@powernoodle.corp.yahoo.com>, > > sbr...@freebsd.org writes: > > > > >I'd like to make this change to login.conf for default installs. > >

Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Steve Wills wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:56:35PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 18:06 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: In article <1396457629.2280.2.ca...@powernoodle.corp.yahoo.com>, sbr...@freebsd.org writes: I'd like to make this change to login.conf

Re: login.conf --> UTF-8

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Wills
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:31:08PM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Steve Wills wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:56:35PM -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > >> On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 18:06 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > >>> In article <1396457629.2280.2.ca...@powernoodle.corp.yahoo

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 06:40:18PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Hmmm. I'm a bit biased here, but I've been using FreeBSD on the > desktop since, well, before it was called FreeBSD. It's still my > primary platform for nearly everything (except photo management, which > drove me to a Mac laptop

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Adrian Chadd
No wifi. Someone has to step up and "own" broadcom wifi or this will never change. -a On 2 April 2014 18:44, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 06:40:18PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> Hmmm. I'm a bit biased here, but I've been using FreeBSD on the >> desktop since, well, b

another Make (maybe) problem

2014-04-02 Thread Robert Huff
Warner: > This will happen with fmake. I?ve put some safety belts in place in > another fix to keep this from tripping people up (and plan on using > a similar technique to keep people from hitting the aicasm bug on > such systems). As long as make-related issues are on the table .

Re: vt text cursor invisible in reverse video

2014-04-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 01:01:11PM +0200, Claude Buisson wrote: > After 19 years of FreeBSD use and not being part of any chapel/coterie/mafia > I don't keep much illusion about the outcome.. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Rest assured that a large number of those of us that work on FreeBSD do

Re: Leaving the Desktop Market

2014-04-02 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 03:10:22PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > FreeBSD desktop since 3.3 (makes me a newbie!) I really dislike > pulseaudio > > and have managed to live without it. Firefox works fine without it. > > Unfortunately they