Just say "No!" and do not document GRUB2 anymore!

2021-05-27 Thread e
sounds unintuitive, but he just speaks truth to power: https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/quick-docs/issue/352#comment-734630 "I think the GRUB stuff is so esoteric, so conditional and overly complicated, that we shouldn't explain it. Explaining it will take a lot of resources, and then it has to be

Re: Just say "No!" and do not document GRUB2 anymore!

2021-05-27 Thread e
On Thu, 27 May 2021 12:54:31 +0200 astoundingly, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 27.05.2021 12:30, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > Support for other OS for those who like/need to dualboot? > > Yes. For example you can press "W" to start Windows directly. > > Also native UEFI Boot allows mul

Re: Friday , May 28 unattended update broke amdgpu DKMS building

2021-05-31 Thread e
On Mon, 31 May 2021 14:28:58 -0500 astoundingly, Justin Forbes wrote: > On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 12:17 PM L 5 wrote: > Fedora 34 installations should never, under any circumstances, install > a driver that requires dkms. Packaging out of tree modules is against > fedora policy for a number

Re: Friday , May 28 unattended update broke amdgpu DKMS -- SOLVED!

2021-06-01 Thread e
On Mon, 31 May 2021 14:28:58 -0500 astoundingly, Justin Forbes wrote: > Third party drivers often can break on kernel rebases. Thanks Justin! Though all worked fine for quite a while, after your posting I removed the amdgpu package, installed the testing kernel just for giggles, and stuff

yate

2021-08-19 Thread e
yet another text editor? I thought we already had 6 millions of them. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-

Re: Orphaning mkdocs-markdownextradata-plugin

2021-08-19 Thread e
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Re: Disabling drm/ttm/radeon module loading for debugging

2010-01-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/23/2010 09:08 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Hello, > > How can I make sure drm/radeon/ttm modules are not loaded, > until I do it manually myself? > > I extracted the initrd image, edited the 'init' script and > commented out loading of the modules, repacked the initrd, > and booted but someth

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-26 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz): > Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus píše v Út 26. 01. 2010 v 11:16 +0100: > > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 14:48 -0600, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Till Maas wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:45:26PM -0500, Mike McLean wrote:

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-27 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Benny Amorsen (benny+use...@amorsen.dk): > Richard Zidlicky writes: > > > Mounting the fs read only is much easier and safer - and has long tradition. > > This is not feasible as a distribution policy. You can't guarantee that > /usr/bin is on its own partition so you can mount it read o

Re: RFC: Remove write permissions from executables

2010-01-28 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Richard Zidlicky (r...@linux-m68k.org): > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:11:41AM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > > > > All in all I think it's a shame that the original proposal didn't work > > > out at this time. Having binaries owned by bin:bin does ha

Re: F14 TC2 x86_64b

2010-08-03 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/03/2010 07:25 PM, John Reiser wrote: >> Ok, so this compose seems to have anaconda-14.14. When trying to do an >> nfs install, once I put in the server/directory information, it shows it >> connecting and trying to pull up the gui. But after that, my monitor >> just stays black and nothing

Re: F14TC2 x86_64 problem

2010-08-05 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/05/2010 09:06 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way around this problem? > > I'm trying to install from DVD the TC2 image on the laptop (HP DV6 > 2113SA). When I click to trash the HD, the installer dies on me saying > there is an error and asking me if I want to debug. I get the s

Re: What does the DVD media check if installing a new Fedora version? / Proposal

2010-08-13 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/13/2010 04:32 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi, > > having the following question: What does the DVD/CD media check exactly > if booting a Fedora DVD/CD? Is it the sha256sum? If yes, why this media > check, because it could be done after having burned the DVD? > > If not, is it possible to perf

Re: FYI: rawhide now requires systemd to boot by default

2010-09-18 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/17/2010 02:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > While upstart is still in the repo, the initscripts package now pulls > in systemd and systemd-sysvinit. > > Bill from todays 201009218 rawhide update (bz'd on the yum site as #593): sudo yum --enablerepo=mash --skip-broken update . Updating

Re: e4defrag support?

2010-10-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/05/2010 11:01 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > > cool! I suppose I could turn it on in rawhide, or you could just > build your own e2fsprogs to get it ... > > -Eric > Cool if you turn it on in rawhide. Helps those of us who are build challenged :-). I can test in raid and LV environments. Re

Re: e4defrag support?

2010-10-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/06/2010 02:01 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: > > OK gang, it's in e2fsprogs-1.41.12-6.fc15 > > you have to invoke it with "-test" options to make it go ;) > > Word of warning, it's not had a lot of attention, and the whole > design could change in the future, but it's something to play with :) > > -

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-10-31 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/31/2010 03:18 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 04:37:38 +0100, Kevin wrote: > >> Martin Stransky wrote: >>> there's a new Firefox update waiting in Bodhi and we can't push it to >>> stable because of new rules. We recommend you to update to it ASAP as it >>> fixes a public cr

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, Jim Meyering wrote: > > service ssh restart Would that be: service sshd restart ? -- Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-18 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/18/2011 06:29 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 18.08.11 12:33, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: Oh, I just noticed this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/11/2011 04:33 AM, Jim Meyering wrote: > darrell pfeifer wrote: >> Fails for me too, with the same error. > > Thanks for confirming that. > > I don't mean to be rude or inflammatory, but do have to wonder how such > a fundamentally-broken package was released -- even to rawhide. In the > fedo

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/11/2011 06:19 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> Maybe there needs to be a classification for rawhide similar to the >> karma system for updates-testing, but limited to just a set of packages >> that should just always work (maybe openssh would be one).

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/12/2011 07:39 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> Didn't say like, said similar. Don't you test your changes somehow? Or >> do you just toss the mods over the wall and hope for the best? I don't >> think so. Share your test cases

Re: Development to release quality

2011-09-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/12/2011 06:01 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > > > Too much QA (or any external QA) imposed on the development make it > slower. Compare Linux v. OpenSolaris kernel development. Fedora tries to > be very fast developing distro, thus less QA in the development version. > Ah yes, the ol' QA conundrum.

Re: Development to release quality

2011-09-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/12/2011 10:17 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > Sure, we need QA, but for rawhide the development shouldn't be totally > stalled as it is already in F16 right now, where updates for critpath > packages, even when they have several hundred thousands of tests > performed already during package build

Re: What do rawhide testers want and expect?

2011-09-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 09/12/2011 11:57 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > In reading the long trash each other fest that accompanies pre-release > jitters, could we start on a cleaner plate? What do the people who are > using rawhide day-in/day-out expect out of the channel? What level of > pain does someone like Jona

Re: BTRFS on LVM causes long fedora-storage-init run?

2011-10-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/07/2011 11:31 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > I posted this on the main mailing list but didn't get any hits. > Hopefully I'll have better luck here. > --- > > I found the following thread but I don't think mine is the same problem: > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-June/100861

Re: BTRFS on LVM causes long fedora-storage-init run?

2011-10-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/07/2011 12:57 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> Do you have caches enabled and fully built? Remounting with >> "-o space_cache,inode_cache" will enable them. Then wait few minutes >> for caches to be built (I/O will stop when they're ready). Subsequent >> mounts s

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-08 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/08/2011 05:43 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora > is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable > release and breaks Firefox horribly: >* My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing tha

Re: [Test-Announce] Proventesters meetup 2011-10-12 at 18UTC

2011-10-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/11/2011 04:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > We are going to be having another proventesters meetup tomorrow on IRC > in #fedora-meeting at 18:00UTC. > > Purpose of meetup: Brainstorm ideas on improving testing and processes > for testing updates. > > * Intro/gather more agenda items > > * Recruiti

Re: systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
ile. And now, in what seems like "magic," it is working fine in rawhide but not in F16 (tho it does in maybe 1 in 20 boots). I followed the procedure in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Netconsole. Since the e-net card is renamed to a local bus name (p37p1 in my case), specifyi

Re: systemd - standard place to run stuff after the network is up?

2011-10-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/17/2011 01:10 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 10/17/2011 10:20 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> I want to try to modprobe netconsole during boot, but it needs to happen >> after the network is up. Is there any standard place (rc.local and >> modules-load seem to happen

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 03/30/2011 07:54 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya, > > I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a > directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later > stumble over it, so here's an explanation what this is and why this is. > > It's a fairly

Re: xorg-x11 gone squiffy in rawhide?

2011-04-21 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 04/21/2011 11:40 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > Just done quite a big update to my rawhide box, performed a reboot and have > been left without an x server. I thought it was the xserver, so downgraded > to 1.10.99.1-2.20110418.fc16, but still the same problem. > > I'm getting a segfault at ad

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/07/2011 12:50 PM, Mario Blättermann wrote: > Am 07.05.2011 16:51, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: >> On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:58:51PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: >>> On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 11:05 +0100, Camilo Mesias wrote: > GNOME 3. We need a new GNOME as close as possible to the old o

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/07/2011 01:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 07 May 2011 13:15:11 -0400, CEK wrote: > >> >> >> >>> > > It's entertaining already to see how people [try to] leave Ubuntu because > of Unity, and to hear that they like Fedora 15's GNOME 3 better. ;) (sorry, going way off topic, but

Status of btrfs in rawhide

2011-05-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Hi, Is rawhide following current btrfs development releases with kernel patches and userland programs? Or, should we role our own? I am interested in testing only. TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2011-05-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/11/2011 03:27 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > As per the Fedora 15 schedule [1], Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 1 > (RC1) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for > download links and testing instructions. > > Installation: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Result

Re: Special thanks to gnome3 and systemd developers

2011-05-18 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/18/2011 10:20 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > While everyone that worked on the F15 release deserves thanks and congrats, > I'd like to give a special thanks to the systemd and gnome3 developers because > of the large amount of work needed to implement those features. By working > hard to get th

Re: rawhide report: 20110520 changes

2011-05-20 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/20/2011 05:35 AM, Rawhide Report wrote: > kernel-2.6.39-0.fc16 > > * Thu May 19 2011 Dave Jones > - Update to 2.6.39 final. > > * Sat May 14 2011 Kyle McMartin > - Update to v2 of Mel Gorman's SLUB patchset > Above didn't update installed 2.6.39-0.rc7.git6.1.fc16.x86_64.

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 06/10/2011 02:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during > boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should > probably just wait for updates and try again, or if I should get a picture > of the traceback and fil

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 06/10/2011 04:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 06/11/2011 12:36 AM, mike cloaked wrote: >>> Would be nice to see the systemd author join this discussion? >> >> I am sure you can get answers when someone is off vacation. However >> what w

Re: Gnome borked?

2011-06-20 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 06/20/2011 06:46 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > After doing a rather large update to my rawhide box, it seems that it > no longer wants to play fair with Gnome giving a very unfriendly > "Something has gone wrong which I can't recover from. You should > logout and try again" message. Other th

Re: Koji: filter by dist-release

2011-06-21 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 06/21/2011 01:56 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/builds > > is there any way to get this filtered only for F15 or whatever is used? > > Maybe try: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ then select Fedora 15. You may need a FAS account, not sure. -- Regards

Re: Trusted Boot in Fedora

2011-06-24 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 06/24/2011 04:07 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/24/2011 12:55 PM, JB wrote: >> JB gmail.com> writes: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_computing >> >> TC is controversial because it is technically possible not just to secure the >> hardware for its owner, but also to secure against

Re: Trusted Boot in Fedora

2011-06-24 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 06/24/2011 11:04 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/24/2011 09:55 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote >> Rahul, >> >> Seems he is using references to support contentions...like a scholarly >> journal article. With respect, just as you are free to criticize on >> these mail

Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-07 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com): > On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 10:47:22PM +0200, Radek Vokál wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I need few suggestions about this .. > > https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald > > Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, su

Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-09 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Radek Vokál (radekvo...@gmail.com): > On 04/08/2010 10:49 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 April 2010 04:47:22 pm Radek Vokál wrote: > >>I need few suggestions about this .. > >> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald > >> Combs, the upstream main

Re: Fesco membership policies

2011-11-14 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/14/2011 11:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that >> fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging >> group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is

Re: Non-responsive maintainer ?

2011-12-06 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/06/2011 05:26 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 11:08:32PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: >> > It might be interesting to run this script across every single user > in the Fedora accounts system, and proactively identify any users > whom have not done anything in Fedor

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-12 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/12/2010 02:32 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Till Maas writes: >> > > It's absolutely crystal clear to me that we don't have enough tester > manpower to make the current policy workable; it's past time to stop > denying that. I'd suggest narrowing the policy to a small number of > critical packages

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-13 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/12/2010 11:14 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > "Clyde E. Kunkel" writes: >> > The major packages that I work with have regression test suites, > which in fact get run as part of the RPM build sequence. It's not > apparent to me that I should need to invent some m

Re: NFS in rawhide

2010-11-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/17/2010 02:26 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 14:14 -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> > > Yes, thanks Ric, your reply to me was most helpful. > > Jon. What was the reply? TIA Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/02/2010 02:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:10 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > >> My package in question (mdadm) is only used in certain circumstances, >> but if it isn't right, systems fail to boot. I can certainly see why >> something that can render a machine unbootab

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-09 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/09/2010 08:59 AM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > - debuginfo-install is just a fallback if ABRT fails to retrieve the > debuginfo itself (and ABRT doesn't need the root privs, as is *does not* > install the packages, it just unpacks them) > > Jirka Currently, abrt says the debuginfo packages ar

Re: boot hang at the loopback interface in rawhide?

2011-01-14 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/13/2011 10:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > For some reason, boot is hanging with today's rawhide update -- I get stuck > at "Bringing up loopback interface". Oddly, if I boot into runlevel 1, lo is > there just fine. (But if I telinit 5 from there, it immediately tries to > bring it up again a

Re: Debugging 20s pause in boot time in rawhide

2011-01-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/16/2011 02:32 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > There's a twenty second pause in my boot sequence, shown below, before GDM > starts and I'm not certain if it's in NetworkManager waiting on org.bluez, > bluez itself or the bluez systemd unit file. (Or maybe I'm completely off.) > Later on, the blu

Re: rawhide report: 20110129 changes

2011-01-29 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/29/2011 09:21 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> New package: ghc-process-leksah-1.0.1.4-2.fc15 >> Haskell process-leksah library > > Is it not possible to try a little harder to write a useful package > summary? Or for the package reviewer to take just a quick look and > notice

Re: rawhide report: 20110129 changes

2011-01-29 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/29/2011 09:56 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > That would probably be hard in general. I like to put in URLs to upstream > announcements and/or change logs into the spec file change log. > I didn't see that reply to was just to Mr. Wolff. Here is the msg: On 01/29/2011 09:56 AM, Bruno Wolf

Re: rawhide report: 20110129 changes

2011-01-29 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/29/2011 10:58 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> On 01/29/2011 09:21 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>>> New package: ghc-process-leksah-1.0.1.4-2.fc15 >>>> Haskell process-leksah library &g

Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/27/2011 09:55 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > > I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would > tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it. > try: $ gsettings set org.gnome.shell.clock show-date true -- Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list d

Introduction.

2012-03-30 Thread Daniel E. Wilson
Hi, my name is Dan and I have submitted the version 5.2.1 of the racket scheme interpreter for review. I use Lisp type languages for my own projects and needed a more recent version than the plt-scheme package for my Fedora box. When I found out that plt-scheme was orphaned that I would becom

Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)

2012-10-17 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/17/2012 11:55 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 16:05 +0200, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno mer, 17/10/2012 alle 08.37 -0500, David Lehman ha scritto: to keep you on your toes, of course you forgot ;-) ... because if you're talking seriously this is a wild unacceptable answ

Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)

2012-11-21 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/21/2012 03:01 PM, David Lehman wrote: Yes. I've just completed testing of patches for this stuff. It was decided that it's too late to try to get them into the Beta. I can provide you with an updates image that adds the functionality if you are interested. David I, for one, would be in

Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)

2012-12-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/08/2012 12:07 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: Why does there need to be a long-term support for Fedora? Why not just use Red Hat Enterprise Linux? I imagine it boils down to money since Fedora=free and RHEL=$$$. Corporate suits will will weigh cost of Fedora support vs RHEL support

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-20 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
haps a bad thing to clog up the logs with that? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-20 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
o the person in charge on that computer. Perhaps this should be mentioned in the installation guide or something, or even done in anaconda? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-25 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
Transaction Summary Upgrade 19 Packages The updates were successfully applied -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-03 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/03/2013 09:45 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Why not just make the assumption that administrators will use the netinstall and or ks and desktop users will use live spins? JBG I don't know if it is still the case, but historically you could NOT specify a file system different from t

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-03 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 05/03/2013 12:30 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/03/2013 04:22 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 05/03/2013 09:45 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: Why not just make the assumption that administrators will use the netinstall and or ks and desktop users will use live spins? JBG I

Re: Status to make btsfs to the standard filesystem of Fedora

2013-01-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/16/2013 12:00 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I haven't seen any recent activity in Fedora from him. Have you? Rahul Some patches on the btrfs list on Jan 7 and 8, 2013. -- Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/23/2013 11:55 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. As some of you may know, I switched my laptop over to rawhide and have been posting a series of blogs about the various issues I have run into in the last month. To recap from those: - xfce4-session crash: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sho

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/23/2013 12:25 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:08:21 -0500 "Clyde E. Kunkel" wrote: Would issues with specific 3.8 kernel drivers affecting rawhide be a candidate? Candidate for a tracker bug? Perhaps. It would depend on how widespread the issue is. Definitely

Re: Help figure out the debug slowness

2013-01-27 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/27/2013 06:12 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:44:43 -0600, Justin M. Forbes wrote: kernel-3.8.0-0.rc4.git5.1.fc19.x86_64 is significantly slower than the previous release for all graphical activities. For me the opposite is true. It is (subjectively) faster than

Re: Odd error message on build blender-2.66-1.fc19

2013-02-21 Thread Michael E. Maher
Hi Jochen, > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.lr1DY2 (%install) > bogus date in %changelog: Sun Jan 30 2006 Jochen Schmitt herr-schmitt de> 2.41-1 30th January 2006 was a Monday not a Sunday. > > So I would to like to ask, if anyone have an idea about the error message > relati

Re: rawhide report: 20130223 changes

2013-02-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/23/2013 03:48 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: mygui - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5047260 No idea what should be providing libCommon.so for it. maybe should be libcommon vice libCommon? -- Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.f

Re: system freezes after loading gdm/gnome

2013-02-25 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/25/2013 09:26 AM, Jan Dvořák wrote: Hi, I am running rawhide for fun and since a few days ago a few seconds after starting gdm the whole system freezes. I am sorry that I can't really pinpoint the exact update as I suspend and this only manifested after a reboot. The problem is that I don

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-13 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 03/13/2013 11:51 AM, Felix Miata wrote: On 2013-03-13 17:29 (GMT+0200) Sebastian Mäki composed: * remove the hood of the car, and keep it off in case something goes wrong, or to entice new drivers to look in there and guess what is going on. * keep the hood of the car on, and if something go

Re: RFC: Fedora revamp proposal

2013-03-13 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 03/13/2013 12:02 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: 2) You can take the longer release time, get the new codebase in and done and then you are in much better shape moving forward. We choose 2. (Anaconda folks, feel free to drop in and correct me if I got anything wrong). I can't see much way to explai

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-04 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
be spared, in my opinion. <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976704> Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
x86_64 GNU/Linux $ dnf erase kernel-3.12.6-300.fc20.x86_64 The same thing could be said about other packages now protected in yum. Please protect them in the same way in dnf. Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/05/2014 12:02 PM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 01/05/2014 09:23 AM, Mattia Verga wrote: why did they change remove into erase? Yum actually offers both erase and remove for the same purpose. I don't know which is an ali

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/05/2014 07:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 10:27 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: ... The running kernel should not be removed with a simple 'dnf erase kernel' (why did they change remove into erase

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/05/2014 07:24 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: As I mentioned before I only auto completed yum, remove is not party of the auto completed commands. If remove should be there, then this is a bug. I will file one. Pressed send a bit too early. Should of course be 'erase' here, no

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
e rpm installed you can download the yum rpm, and re-install yum, so why protects it? Could it be because yum has a user perspective, making it a tad harder for the non technically oriented user to do bad things to the system? Leaving the bad things to the more technically oriented user? Lars -

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-05 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/06/2014 12:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 19:24 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: ... As I mentioned before I only auto completed yum, remove is not party of the auto completed commands. If remove should be there, then this is a bug. I will file one. dnf has no auto

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/06/2014 08:13 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 08:01 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 01/06/2014 12:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: ... If it exists for backward compatibility, it doesn't necessarily need to be documented. Ehh? Why? Could you elaborate? I don&

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/05/2014 07:24 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Three documentation "bugs" out of a side track of a thread is not a terrible thread, in my opinion... Yum auto completion missing erase: <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048714> dnf man page missing to mentio

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/06/2014 12:43 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Otherwise, I totally agree with Chris and with DNF upstream. "dnf remove kernel" should remove every kernel and should not behave magically. What would be the point in removing the running kernel? Is there actually such a use case? Lars

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/06/2014 02:06 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 6.1.2014 13:31, Lars E. Pettersson napsal(a): ... What would be the point in removing the running kernel? Is there actually such a use case? Lars Why are you asking? May be you should let your imagination run riot. Why? Isn't that obviou

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
cumentation. He/she should not need to try things, they should be documented, if they are not documented, then it is a documentation bug. Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/deve

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-06 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
umentation, and everyone knows about it. Regarding 'real world'. Correct, that's why I wrote "...if they are not documented, then it is a documentation bug.", and that's how it should be treated. Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list d

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
ng something obvious here? How does 'application' correlates to a rpm-package? Lars -- Lars E. Pettersson http://www.sm6rpz.se/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
plication' correlates to a rpm-package? Application means GUI application that has a .desktop file. That makes the 'software center' of lesser use, as the user will be confused when he/she does not find the program/rpm-package/application he/she wants to install. Lars -- Lars

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/26/2014 12:18 PM, Heiko Adams wrote: Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:14 +0100 schrieb Lars E. Pettersson: ... Would it not be better to have a 'software center' that includes ALL software available, be they GUI related or not? Probably based on rpm-packages, as that is what

Non-responsive maintainer check for eclipseo

2023-03-15 Thread Mark E. Fuller
Hi, This is a non-responsive maintainer check for eclipseo. I am trying to contact him as the owner of golang-github-masterminds-semver[0]. There is one other open non-responsive maintainer check, filed ~2 weeks ago[1]. Does anyone know how to contact eclipseo? Thanks, fuller [0] https://bugz

Re: Non-responsive maintainer check for eclipseo

2023-03-15 Thread Mark E. Fuller
Thanks for the suggestion, but I do not use Twitter and don't want to create an account. On March 15, 2023 5:13:43 PM GMT+02:00, Fabio Valentini wrote: >On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 4:04 PM Mark E. Fuller >wrote: >> >> Hi, >> This is a non-responsive maintainer check

Re: Stuck package - golang-github-prometheus-node-exporter

2023-05-10 Thread Mark E. Fuller
I'll try to push this along - there's a build error that needs resolving (but not at 2:30 AM) see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2112130 Anyone from the golang list want to take a look? -fuller On 02/05/2023 19:25, Pat Riehecky wrote: golang-github-prometheus-node-exporter seems

Error building new package in sidetag

2024-07-14 Thread Mark E. Fuller
Hi all, I am adding a few new dependencies to update a golang package (nothing new here) and building the new packages and update in a sidetag for F40. However, for one of the new dependencies, there is a repeated error: "FAILED: BuildError: package golang-github-ladicle-tabwriter not in list

non-responsive maintainer check for anthr76

2023-07-14 Thread Mark E. Fuller
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=964 This email is part of the non-responsive maintainer procedure for anthr76, following https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/. Please respond if you are still active in Fedora and want to maint

Assistance unretiring branches of package

2023-08-12 Thread Mark E. Fuller
Hi all, In order to update go-task, I need to unretire branches for F39 and Rawhide of https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/golang-github-google-renameio-2 (and then update the package) It's not clear to me how to proceed since the package is not orphaned (and the maintainer did not respond t

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