Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’ (was: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs)

2016-11-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 02, 2016, at 01:57 PM, Ben Finney wrote: >Donald Stufft writes: > >> /usr/bin/python3 being Python 4.x is a bit weird though > >Seriously? Who is proposing that? > >> and it’s likely that Python 4.x is not going to be another break the >> world release. > >Certainly the command ‘python

Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’

2016-11-02 Thread Ben Finney
Barry Warsaw writes: > On Nov 02, 2016, at 01:57 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > > >Certainly the command ‘python3’ should only ever point to the Python > >3 interpreter. > > > >If upstream ever releases a “Python 4” but expects the interpreter > >for that to also be named ‘python3’, I think we can decla

Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’

2016-11-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
Don't panic. :) On Nov 03, 2016, at 09:28 AM, Ben Finney wrote: >But the above post implies that pointless confusion will be directly >courted, merely because of some aesthetic objection to a two-digit >component in the version string. Those are Nick's opinions. Everyone's got one! AFAIK, ther

Re: Packaging new version of ZODB (Zope Object Database)

2016-11-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 02, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Arnaud Fontaine wrote: >> I write to debian-python, because some of the involved packages are >> not specific to Zope. Actually, I even think that ZODB itself is not >> specific to Zope, but well, changing section of existing packages can >> be another topic.

Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’

2016-11-02 Thread Ben Finney
Barry Warsaw writes: > AFAIK, there is *no* official declaration (e.g. from Guido or the > mythical Python 4 release manager) about this either way. In support of your position, Guido van Rossum has informally implied version “3.10” is feasible for a future Python 3 https://twitter.com/gvanrossu

Re: Packaging new version of ZODB (Zope Object Database)

2016-11-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 2, 2016 6:51:56 PM EDT, Barry Warsaw wrote: >On Nov 02, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Arnaud Fontaine wrote: > >>> I write to debian-python, because some of the involved packages >are >>> not specific to Zope. Actually, I even think that ZODB itself is >not >>> specific to Zope, but well,

Re: Packaging new version of ZODB (Zope Object Database)

2016-11-02 Thread Arnaud Fontaine
Hi, Barry Warsaw writes: > +1. I do still touch some of the ztk packages and would dearly love > to ditch svn, but just haven't had the time to think about a proper > migration. Should we just admit defeat and do on-demand conversions, > preserving history if possible but not worrying ab