use of debian/scripts/ folder

2014-03-10 Thread forum : : für : : umläute
hi, after the (not so) recent discussion on the use of 'debian/upstream/', i'd like to question one of my own packaging practices: whenever i feel the need to use small scripts in my packaging (scripts that are called during the build phase, e.g. in order to work around upstream weirdnesses), i te

Re: packaging of MATLAB files

2014-03-10 Thread Stuart Prescott
Sébastien Villemot wrote: > Le samedi 08 mars 2014 à 12:18 +, Ghislain Vaillant a écrit : >> I am currently working on packaging a scientific project for which >> MATLAB wrappers are available. I was wondering where these should be >> installed in the file system tree and whether there were par

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Wise writes ("Re: Bits from the Security Team"): > Debian doesn't support skipping releases right now and I expect if we > support releases for a longer amount of time that won't change. But, in practice, skip upgrades often work anyway. I'd encourage maintainers not to gratuitously break th

Bug#741260: ITP: libplack-middleware-header-perl -- middleware for modifying HTTP response headers

2014-03-10 Thread Marius Gavrilescu
Package: wnpp Owner: Marius Gavrilescu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libplack-middleware-header-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Masahiro Chiba * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Plac

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Christoph Biedl schrieb: > Matthias Urlichs wrote... > >> IMHO the decision to designate release N to be a LTS release has too be >> made at release time of N+1 _at_the_latest_, so maintainers know that they >> may not remove their "old" upgrade script snippets. > > Agreed, but given the long inte

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 09:00:13AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > * There are quite some vulnerabilities which are addressed in Debian, > > but for which no CVE identifier has been assigned. > > Perhaps we could encourage those submitting security bugs to > X-Debbugs-CC the oss-sec list? That woul

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, > Skipping releases will not be possible/supported Oh, it's certainly *possible*. The question is, how painful an experience fixing the resulting problems will be … However, "LTS" releases should support upgrades from one LTS to the next. That's kindof what I'd expect, and Ubuntu certainly

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 10 mars 2014, 13.52:59 Ian Jackson a écrit : > Paul Wise writes ("Re: Bits from the Security Team"): > > Debian doesn't support skipping releases right now and I expect if > > we > > support releases for a longer amount of time that won't change. > > But, in practice, skip upgrades often

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On 10/03/14 15:44, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > However, "LTS" releases should support upgrades from one LTS to the > next. That's kindof what I'd expect, and Ubuntu certainly shows > that it's possible. I think LTS is being used to mean two different things here. Debian releases are already more lik

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Simon McVittie: > Does Ubuntu support upgrading directly from old-old-LTS to > current-LTS, e.g. from hardy to precise or from lucid to trusty? Not that I know of, no. > Ubuntu's Wikipedia page doesn't seem to think so. A direct upgrade > from squeeze to jessie would be of a similar magnitud

jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, I keep discussing the same issues caused by minified JS files (mostly JQuery) in their source tarballs over and over. Could maybe those who care deeply about this write a concise wiki page with all that upstream needs to know about our expectations, so that I can point them to it? That page sh

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On March 10, 2014 06:27:01 PM Joachim Breitner wrote: > Also, am I too pragmatic in suggesting that we should accept non-source > files in tarballs if they are legally distributed and not used during > the build (especially not included in the binary packages)? I generally take that approach.

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Marcin Kulisz
On 2014-03-10 13:05:30, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > On March 10, 2014 06:27:01 PM Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > Also, am I too pragmatic in suggesting that we should accept non-source > > files in tarballs if they are legally distributed and not used during > > the build (especially not included in

Re: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!

2014-03-10 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Xavier Roche dijo [Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 06:47:13PM +0100]: > > I would tend to side more with Odyx here in that the keys are still > > considered trustworthy enough to be in the keyring but we're encouraging > > moving to stronger keys and no longer accepting these keys to be > > included. > > Yes

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi, On 2014-03-10 18:27, Joachim Breitner wrote: I keep discussing the same issues caused by minified JS files (mostly JQuery) in their source tarballs over and over. Could maybe those who care deeply about this write a concise wiki page with all that upstream needs to know about our expectation

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-03-10 17:32, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Simon McVittie: Ubuntu's Wikipedia page doesn't seem to think so. A direct upgrade from squeeze to jessie would be of a similar magnitude. Well, yes, except that I continue to hope that with a LTS release in our archive the non-LTS releases would ap

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Christoph Biedl
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote... > I, for one, have been routinely dropping transitional binary packages > that were in the latest stable; they were needed to migrate from (the > releases which are now) oldstable to stable but are only archive noise > now. Delaying that cleanup for an additional s

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2014-03-10 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi, On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 07:36:23PM +0100, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote... > > > Security archive > > - > > > > * In order to avoid bottlenecks and to open up the security process > > further we're planning to allow maintainers which are not part of > >

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-10 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 10.03.2014, 20:29 +0100 schrieb Philipp Kern: > as long as the code in question is not under a license that requires the > full, non-minified source to be reproduced and if the copyright notices > and license terms as potentially required by the license are present, I > don't

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-10 Thread Ben Finney
Joachim Breitner writes: > So you’d say it is acceptable to leave jquery-1.11.0.min.js in a tarball > if it is unused (e.g. if it is removed in the clean target, and possibly > documented in README.Source)? Can maybe someone from the ftp-team > confirm this? My understanding (as someone who is n

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: > Hi, > > > On 2014-03-10 18:27, Joachim Breitner wrote: >> >> I keep discussing the same issues caused by minified JS files (mostly >> JQuery) in their source tarballs over and over. Could maybe those who >> care deeply about this write a conci

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: > as long as the code in question is not under a license that requires the > full, non-minified source to be reproduced and if the copyright notices and > license terms as potentially required by the license are present, I don't > see why not. B

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise writes: > I'd suggest an acceptable workaround is to include the source in the > debian.tar.gz/diff.gz or to repack the upstream tarball, probably the > latter since jQuery is usually an embedded code copy. > https://wiki.debian.org/EmbeddedCodeCopies Note that we do not (and should n

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Joachim Breitner wrote: > nor mess with tarball repackaging (which I consider ugly, a cludge, and > to be avoided if possible) Recent versions of uscan can automatically repack upstream tarballs to remove files, just include a Files-Excluded line in debian/copyrig

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > I'd love to see clarification of the ftp-team's position on obfuscated > files in source packages, preferably in an official location for future > reference. I quote from [1]: Source missing Your package contains files that need source but do

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2014: Candidates

2014-03-10 Thread Daniel Pimentel (d4n1)
Very goood, the great names. 2014-03-10 14:35 GMT-03:00 Kurt Roeckx - Debian Project Secretary < secret...@debian.org>: > > We're now into the campaigning period. The candidates this year > are: > - Lucas Nussbaum > - Gergely Nagy > - Neil McGovern > > More details about the vote can be found a

Re: jquery debate with upstrea

2014-03-10 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > I think that DFSG item 2 means we have promised not to do this. > > Also this particular issue is in the reject FAQ. > > https://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html It would be very helpful if Paul could at this point give a URL to exactly which item he's referring to. But

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-10 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On March 11, 2014 10:50:10 AM Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > > I'd love to see clarification of the ftp-team's position on obfuscated > > files in source packages, preferably in an official location for future > > reference. Recalling that the context of th