Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 06/03/2011 03:21 AM, Remco wrote: So, for as long as I can remember, people have been asking for a welcome screen in Ubuntu which is presented when a new user first logs in. Today, I started Help and was amazed by how straightforward this looks. This is what needs to be started on first boot!

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Remco
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:09, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > First boot and first login of a "new" user are meaningless. > > What if Eve installs a system for Adam to use? What if George creates > another account to test something? What if Brunhilde installs her 3rd > iteration of Ubuntu? > > What if Vla

[Ayatana] proposal: alt+num navigation in "superviews"

2011-06-03 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
If you press super+w, then you get a view of your open windows. Pressing super+s or pressing super+numX2, then you get similar views. Since I don't know if these have a collective name, I've chosen to call them superviews for the purpose of this email. They have different things in them; windows o

Re: [Ayatana] proposal: alt+num navigation in "superviews"

2011-06-03 Thread Tony Pursell
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 15:27 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > If you press super+w, then you get a view of your open windows. Pressing > super+s or pressing super+numX2, then you get similar views. Since I don't > know if these have a collective name, I've chosen to call them superviews > for the

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
You can read the "Ubuntu welcome center" thread: https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05790.html and also the section titled the same in this mail in the "a realistic vision of the next iteration of unity": https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05999.html Here is the LP bug request for the sam

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Remco
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 16:35, Niklas Rosenqvist wrote: > You can read the "Ubuntu welcome center" thread: > https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg05790.html > and also the section titled the same in this mail in the "a realistic vision > of the next iteration of unity": > https://lists.launchpad.

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Niklas Rosenqvist
I think the ultimate solution would be a full featured welcome center as shown in the attached mockups and letting people get to do the decision to open Help themselves instead of getting it thrown in their faces. The many benefits of this would be the ability to provide other information as the ex

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Kévin PEIGNOT
Hy! I agree with the idea of an ubuntu tour. And I think, as it have been said before that the chosen app must be fully and early translatable. I read few days ago in launchpad oneiric blueprints about a new way to provide translations. Maybe it could help. I can't find the link right now but as s

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Ed Lin
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Remco wrote: > I think we can ignore feelings of belittlement of adventurous people. > They would feel belittled by automatic codec install, bash command > installation suggestions; everything that helps new users. Oh my, are you serious? There is a huge difference

Re: [Ayatana] proposal: alt+num navigation in "superviews"

2011-06-03 Thread Ed Lin
In the spread view and workspace view Win+Num still works, adding another numbering scheme would be quite confusing. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana M

[Ayatana] Unity quicklist shortcut

2011-06-03 Thread Travis B. Hartwell
First of all, a big thanks to all of the Unity developers.  I've been loving the user experience ever since I upgraded to Natty.  I'm excited for what is to come. One of the features I really like are the static and dynamic quicklists. However, being a keyboard junkie, I prefer to control things

Re: [Ayatana] proposal: alt+num navigation in "superviews"

2011-06-03 Thread Tony Pursell
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 18:48 +0200, Ed Lin wrote: > In the spread view and workspace view Win+Num still works, adding > another numbering scheme would be quite confusing. > It's not that immediately obvious which number on the launcher relates to which window. But anyway, I have found that once y

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Matteo Pagliazzi
I think that a tour for ubuntu is a must have. It should be interactive showing users how to do this and this action stepby step. Maybe it could have some links to install codecs, flash player... I also think that Ubuntu should have full translated isos at least for main languages. Il giorno

Re: [Ayatana] proposal: alt+num navigation in "superviews"

2011-06-03 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 03. juni 2011 18:48, Ed Lin wrote: In the spread view and workspace view Win+Num still works, adding another numbering scheme would be quite confusing I don't understand why that is. It works this way in Firefox, Nautilus and lots of other tabbed applications. Why is that not confusing? I pr

Re: [Ayatana] proposal: alt+num navigation in "superviews"

2011-06-03 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 03. juni 2011 16:05, Tony Pursell wrote: What a super idea. Since going to Unity, I use Super-W quite a lot, being very forgetful of what applications/widows I have open, and where they are. But the only way I have to select one of the windows, is to reach for the mouse and click on it. This

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
I agree that some sort of Welcome to Ubuntu would be nice to have. One easy way of achieving that, would be to simply run a browser in full screen with a stretched image of a default Ubuntu installs first desktop. We would then use image maps with hover to display information about what the differ

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread Evan Huus
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > I agree that some sort of Welcome to Ubuntu would be > nice to have. One easy way of achieving that, would be > to simply run a browser in full screen with a stretched > image of a default Ubuntu installs first desktop. We would > then u

Re: [Ayatana] proposal: alt+num navigation in "superviews"

2011-06-03 Thread Ian Santopietro
What about adding numbers a la the launcher item as super is continually held down? That way, it's easy to tell which number keys activate which window. On Jun 3, 2011 4:37 PM, "Jo-Erlend Schinstad" wrote: ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana

Re: [Ayatana] Getting Started

2011-06-03 Thread huffylinux
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 14:13:19 +0200 Remco wrote: > Help is a perfect introduction for new users (English-only > though). Seriously, take a look at Help. It's awesome. As it is now, help isn't all that easy to find unless you know your way around. At least, I *think* I am the one that pinned it to