Re: [Ayatana] Places > People

2010-06-28 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 02:25 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > 2. In which of the above categories would you prefer to see > "Contacts".. Personal or rather Network? or perhaps a new "People" > category? Network is for your local (computer) network and thus no place for Contacts/People. Not all cont

Re: [Ayatana] Lack of harmony between panel applets

2010-06-28 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 07:45 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > If you are running only Ayatana indicators, then yes you will be able > to have a "menu only" experience end-to-end. For 10.10 that will mean > using connection manager, which will still have rough edges, and the > clock indicator, which

Re: [Ayatana] Lack of harmony between panel applets

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 28/06/10 08:33, Martin Owens wrote: > Although I hear it'll unravel all the functionality for the evolution > calendar and task list as well as the handy locations and ability to > change locations from that menu. In due course, similar capabilities will be added. But for the moment it's minima

Re: [Ayatana] Lack of harmony between panel applets

2010-06-28 Thread Conscious User
> In due course, similar capabilities will be added. But for the moment > it's minimalist. Here's me hoping that those similar capabilities will be implemented in a neat d-bus service way which follows an app-independent protocol, thus closing one of the most common complaints against the current

Re: [Ayatana] Places > People

2010-06-28 Thread Jan-Christoph Borchardt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 02:25 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > >> 2. In which of the above categories would you prefer to see >> "Contacts".. Personal or rather Network? or perhaps a new "People" >> category? > > Network is for your local (compu

Re: [Ayatana] Design discussion proposals for Christmas

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 31/12/09 17:20, Conscious User wrote: > But *can* the current specification fix this for closed-source apps > like Skype? The reason I ask (and forgive me if I'm wrong) is that > Application Indicators seem to solve the problem of notification area > consistency but not the problem of notificati

Re: [Ayatana] File transfer dialog behaviour

2010-06-28 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Hamm wrote on 25/06/10 17:32: > > "I don't see how CSD would improve that situation at all" > > From what I've read csd would be more elegant at both a programing level > and design level, with less resources and the ability to design > applica

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 01/06/10 15:36, Conscious User wrote: > After some time actually using the Me Menu in Lucid, though, one > thing is bothering me with respect to the specification itself: > the lack of any kind of feedback in case the broadcasting went > well. The specification states that notification bubble sh

[Ayatana] How Mozilla does community-driven open source design

2010-06-28 Thread David Siegel
See http://tinyurl.com/2ebzvww for an article on Mozilla's community-driven design efforts. An interesting caveat from the article: Some commentators doubt that an open source approach can be fruitfully applied to design. "There are plenty of good ideas, but they don't work well together with the

Re: [Ayatana] Lack of harmony between panel applets

2010-06-28 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 28/06/10 08:53, Conscious User wrote: > >> In due course, similar capabilities will be added. But for the moment >> it's minimalist. >> > Here's me hoping that those similar capabilities will be implemented > in a neat d-bus service way which follows an app-independent protocol, > thus c

Re: [Ayatana] Fullscreen Mode for all applications

2010-06-28 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/28 Tyler Brainerd > > > >> Yes for consistency, but I'm not sure how needed this is. I for one would > never have a need to have transmission or nautilus fullscreen, or the > contact list. These would all be better off with a fixed width and getting > maximized vertically. > > For most apps

Re: [Ayatana] How Mozilla does community-driven open source design

2010-06-28 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 11:13 +0100, David Siegel wrote: > Can anyone cite an example of a "unifying idea that can take away 10 > other ideas" from the Ayatana list, or are we generating "plenty of > good ideas [that] don't work well together"? I understand that quote to likely refer to a situation

Re: [Ayatana] Fullscreen Mode for all applications

2010-06-28 Thread Siegfried Gevatter
FYI, If I remember correctly, GNOME's keybinding app lets you choose a keyboard combination to switch any window to fullscreen (even if it doesn't nativelly support it). -- Siegfried-Angel Gevatter Pujals (RainCT) Free Software Developer 363DEAE3 ___

Re: [Ayatana] Lack of harmony between evolution

2010-06-28 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 11:15 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > Here's me hoping that those similar capabilities will be implemented > > in a neat d-bus service way which follows an app-independent > protocol, > > thus closing one of the most common complaints against the current > > clock, which i

Re: [Ayatana] File transfer dialog behaviour

2010-06-28 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:55, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Sorry, I still have no idea how that relates to progress windows. > > The progress window when unmounting a device, for example, correctly has > no close button. It doesn't need CSD to achieve that. > you're right, CSD is not needed for pr

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-28 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:08, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 01/06/10 15:36, Conscious User wrote: > > After some time actually using the Me Menu in Lucid, though, one > > thing is bothering me with respect to the specification itself: > > the lack of any kind of feedback in case the broadcasting

Re: [Ayatana] Fullscreen Mode for all applications

2010-06-28 Thread Frederik Nnaji
Hi Siegfried, On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 13:39, Siegfried Gevatter wrote: > FYI, If I remember correctly, GNOME's keybinding app lets you choose a > keyboard combination to switch any window to fullscreen (even if it > doesn't nativelly support it). > yeah, Compiz can do that to a window. On Mon,

Re: [Ayatana] How Mozilla does community-driven open source design

2010-06-28 Thread Frederik Nnaji
Hi Thorwil, On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 13:25, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 11:13 +0100, David Siegel wrote: > > > Can anyone cite an example of a "unifying idea that can take away 10 > > other ideas" from the Ayatana list, or are we generating "plenty of > > good ideas [that] don't

Re: [Ayatana] Lack of harmony between panel applets

2010-06-28 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:15, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 28/06/10 08:53, Conscious User wrote: > > > >> In due course, similar capabilities will be added. But for the moment > >> it's minimalist. > >> > > Here's me hoping that those similar capabilities will be implemented > > in a neat d-bus

Re: [Ayatana] Start Menu Concept

2010-06-28 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 07:07, David Hamm wrote: > People are great at pattern recognition, hence icons > text... ios, hunting > & gathering etc. > wow, David! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net U

Re: [Ayatana] Unity Screenshot

2010-06-28 Thread David Siegel
Of course that discussion is not off topic! Please, share your thoughts. David On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > We all love what's coming, so here a screenshot of how things could look > once this train is up and running nicely. > Thanks to the entire team @ canonical!!!

[Ayatana] Condensed menuitems

2010-06-28 Thread Cody Russell
Jorge Castro just pinged me and showed me the following: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/06/google-chrome-tests-unified-menu.html Kind of interesting, and I thought I'd post it to the list (if it hasn't already been posted) and see what our design-minded community thinks of these types of c

Re: [Ayatana] Condensed menuitems

2010-06-28 Thread Dylan McCall
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Cody Russell wrote: > Jorge Castro just pinged me and showed me the following: > http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/06/google-chrome-tests-unified-menu.html > Kind of interesting, and I thought I'd post it to the list (if it hasn't > already been posted) and se

Re: [Ayatana] Condensed menuitems

2010-06-28 Thread Jan-Christoph Borchardt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Cody Russell wrote: > Jorge Castro just pinged me and showed me the following: > http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/06/google-chrome-tests-unified-menu.html > Kind of interesting, and I thought I'd post it to the list (if it hasn't > already been posted) and see

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-28 Thread Apoorva Sharma
Hi. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:08, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > We can (and should) provide a spinny in the indicator icon itself during > the transmit phase, and use a green or red flash (like the one you get > during ajaxy updates in Launchpad) to indicate success or failure. I really like th

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-28 Thread DavidTHamm
Is twitter, facebook etc not the same as a chat room or im'ing? Do their website interfaces not appear similar to a chat box? Why are they being treated different then chatting with someone? Sure status is global, but shouldn't twitter etc. just appear as contacts in your list? This way you

Re: [Ayatana] Symbolic Folders - Icons for a better experience

2010-06-28 Thread Walter Wittel
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Frederik Nnaji wrote: > here's 2 mockups of how a properly organized filesystem can look. ... > anybody? > I think this could be quite nice in a narrow domain (for instance provide a view of well known document types under ~/Documents). However I see several probl

Re: [Ayatana] Songbird's creative use of client-side decorations

2010-06-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, June 28, 2010 10:35:29 pm Ryan Prior wrote: > I just tried out Songbird's latest nightly build for Ubuntu > (http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/Builds/Nightly_Builds) > The UI is very slick, and one vertical-space-saving trick they've > implemented in a visually appealing wa

Re: [Ayatana] Broadcasting from Me Menu: thoughts after some time using it

2010-06-28 Thread David Hamm
had to throw this out there before it slipped my mind, but one of the disadvantages to the design I proposed was that it takes a few to many clicks to tweet. Which is of course quite a problem considering the target audience and the typical urgency of the situation. However one of the beauties of h

Re: [Ayatana] Songbird's creative use of client-side decorations

2010-06-28 Thread Conscious User
> I think that makes two of two implementations that nicely illustrate the > concern that CSD is harmful for workspace consistency. I have to agree on this one. Visual inconsistency is one of the oldest complaints against Songbird. ___ Mailing list: